Let's see ... "drill, baby, drill" or "drill here; drill now." The thing that many don't realize is that oil harvested from every country in the world is put on the world market. Oil recovered from our seas and land is not ours. It goes to the highest bidder.
So, what happens to the oil we think we "own?" If it's successfully acquired, it's on the market. If it's washed up on our shores, it's ours.
You may be amused, but won't be surprised, that Glenn Beck is soliciting donations for his August 28 publicity event in the name of helping America's troops: http://www.facebook.com/restoringhonor
The exact words he uses to solitic money:
". It is through the support of non-profit organizations like the Special Operations Warrior Foundation (SOWF) that the families of these service members are taken care of in the event of an accident or loss of life. Help give back to these men and women by donating to the SOWF at www.specialops.org
(paragaphs later)
All contributions made to the Special Operations Warrior Foundation (SOWF) will first be applied to the costs of the Restoring Honor Rally taking place on August 28, 2010. All contributions in excess of these costs will then be retained by the SOWF"
As I am sure the choir already knows, more and more, “water” is thought of as the new gold. Oil has been the new gold for many decades but is now losing favor in the world due to its contamination of things we living things consume and absolutely need i.e., food, water and air.
The oceans have been and yet are the ultimate sewer (remember the Cuyahoga River on fire) for all the oil industry contaminants and are now a less competitive threat to the burgeoning water industry as more and more toxins are spilled into the sea especially if and when purposeful efforts, including deregulation, and possibly dubious accidents blamed on poor judgment actions or on others, contaminate the global oceans and make them more and more cost prohibitive to process into drinking water via desalination and filtration. On purpose or not, in light of the International Cross-Political Corporatocracy and current stocks on the move, it appears that the oil industry is an ally of the water industry making water increasingly rare and coveted, and thus further enabling the water for-profit built-in success factor, life’s necessity for pure water. Is the oil industry, inadvertently or not, using its major asset the fading - undesirable in a world of global environmental deterioration, and energy alternatives – crude oil and bound to make more and more untold fortunes in the water industry, again both in the name of and at the expense of the human condition?
The International Cross-Political Corporatocracy Machine is also after your precious aquifers. The oil/gas industry is even now, through the method of fracturing (fracking), (Google “pahrumpliife, Dirty Mother Earth Frackers”) - contaminating aquifers in the US. Imagine if Ming the Merciless some day had the only pristine aquifer in the solar system or today on just the earth.
Find out who the big guys are. How are their actions limiting our water options? Do they travel to meet in far off tropical paradise hideaways and golf together with their billionaire friends in business and government? Do they scratch each other’s backs? Why are respective attorneys battling each other while these big guys tee off with each other? Are there conflicts of interest? Do they use weapons of mass deception? Do they lobby for advantages?
Initiate a search. What bottling companies, banks, and petroleum companies now and in the past have been and are investing in pristine water and then polluting, accidentally or not, other waters? How long has this been going on?
Who is being helped by the new welfare? Who is the new CCC? Is it Cronies, Cronies, Cronies or Corporatocracy, Corporatocracy, Corporatocracy, or both?
Will your grandchildren be able to afford a pure drink of water? Maybe not, unless you face the music and dance new people into offices and new laws into existence, and prosecute those humans and those so-called “too big to fail international corporations,” responsible for grievous crimes, with criminal charges where warranted, and ask for the death penalty for those corporations. A corporation’s business license is not and should not be a license to kill.
Is it OK with you for the water industry to be the new pinion gear for driving an unbridled accelerating For-Profit Corporatocracy Machine? Think about it.
President Obama has secretly sanctioned a huge increase in the number of US special forces carrying out search-and-destroy missions against al-Qaeda around the world, with American troops now operating in 75 countries.
The dramatic expansion in the use of special forces, which in their global span go far beyond the covert missions authorised by George W. Bush, reflects how aggressively the President is pursuing al-Qaeda behind his public rhetoric of global engagement and diplomacy.
When Mr Obama took office US special forces were operating in fewer than 60 countries. In the past 18 months he has ordered a big expansion in Yemen and the Horn of Africa — known areas of strong al-Qaeda activity — and elsewhere in the Middle East, central Asia and Africa.
The Amount Of Neurotoxin Pesticide Corexit Sprayed By BP Tops 1 Million Gallons
But what most people don’t know is that the active ingredient of the toxic chemical dispersant, which is up to 60% by volume, being sprayed by BP to fight the Gulf oil spill is a is a neurotoxin pesticide that is acutely toxic to both human and aquatic life, causes cancer, causes damage to internal organs such as the liver and kidneys simply by absorbing it through the skin and may cause reproductive side effects.
We need to remind people that the 2010 Oil Drill Catastrophe is what "Drill baby drill " looks like. This is what having no safety or environmental regulations(or enforcing them) looks like.
my first post with apologies to Pete Seeger and with humble apologies to anyone having said the identical thing earlier, it would appear that we are now Waist Deep In The Big Irony. since those politicians who previously lectured us about not wanting to have any vestige of big government interfering in their lives are suddenly crying like stuck pigs about Obama not having done enough to fix the oil gusher. as if he was personally supposed to don gear and swim down and cap it himself.. and those politicians who have been demanding Drill Baby Drill are now suggesting that Obama, not them, are too cozy with the oil companies. the irony is overhelming and suffocating. waist deep in irony? we might be neck deep. or worse. :)
Of course these Corporate Anarchist won't see a Jail Cell.. Obama effectively appointed a good Corporatist "Eric Holder " as Attorney General.. The BP Exec's will probably get a Promotion, a Bonus and Custom Luxury Yachts in Dubai >>>>>> HEAVEN FORBID we jail BP's best "Talent"..
Are these Governors Marxist? , Stupid? , Or just plain Hypocrites?? The Republican Party is the party of "Family Values" .. Yet they don't mind taste testing the male prostitutes from "Rent-a-Boy" and billing it to their Religious organizations.. Republicans are "Pro Life"!! >> As long as that life is White, Wealthy, Christian and or a Fetus.. As soon as the miracle of birth is over >> suit that little bastard up into a combat uniform and send him/her off to War OR put him/her on an oil drilling platform or coal mine so they can suffocate, burn to death or drown.. The word "Conservative" means "to Conserve" .. Yet "Conservation" is the last thing on their minds.. The word "Conserve" to a Republican means "CONSUME" .. As soon as that resource is gone >>> So are the Multi -Nationals and everything in it's path is DESTROYED.. (So much for Conservation) Republicans HATE EVERYTHING about a Social Safety Net or a Public Treasury.. That is UNLESS >> BP, Haliburton , Exxon, Bank of America or AIG is in BIG trouble.. Then robbing America of our Treasury is quite ALRIGHT>> Haliburton and Black Water have been doing it for YEARS..
I would surmise that today's Republicans practice a philosophy of FAILURE... When a Republican fails in Governing then they have ultimately succeeded..
C4ss and Libertarianism in general have a small problem and a big problem.
The small problem is that they really aren't very good at economics. C4ss says that in a real stateless world, BP would not cause more damage than it could clean up because insurers and/or the threat of lawsuits would deter them. But this is simply false; it is economically rational to gamble more than you can afford to pay if you lose, if the potential payout is sufficient ... and "sufficient" has no relationship to the potential losses of your victims.
Hypothetical: you have zero net assets (real assets vs. debt) PLUS the opportunity to do X (what "X" may be doesn't matter; it could be flipping a coin or it could be drilling a well) which has a 50% chance of yielding you $1 Gazillion dollars, and a 50% chance of inflicting $2 Gazzillion of damage on your neighbors for which you would be liable. Do you take the chance?
Of course you do. If you lose the bet, you lose nothing because you can't pay off. The company folds, the executives go elsewhere. But if you win ah! you are fantastically wealthy.
Whenever I ask Libertarians about this hypothetical, they sputter something about how executives would never do that because it'd look bad on their resume. Apparantly they never heard of Carly Fiorina running HP into the ground and emergin' enough cred to run for Senator.
That's the small problem. The big problem is that humans don't follow *only* the laws of economics; there's a lot more going on. Running a society on Libertarianism is like running a car on gasoline but not lubricating it..
Re: I don't know whether you think of c4ss as opposition or ally.
I really don't know what I am, as I am still searching for a "political home". I do wonder why both the Democratic & Republican parties are against the Libertarians. Perhaps it is because the Libertarians are not sponsored by the corporations as the two party system is? So instead of just listening to the Democrats and the Republicans saying that the Libertarians are bad, bad, bad; I try to read what some of them are actually saying.
It's really a challenge to discern what truth really is.
The Good Side of the Oil Spill - seizing corporate assets gets some air time,, and thanks to Thom it's even on mega-corporation owned radio stations...Seize BP! is at seizebp.org
Vine Deloria commented that "only the white man would make a river that catches on fire."
Let's see ... "drill, baby, drill" or "drill here; drill now." The thing that many don't realize is that oil harvested from every country in the world is put on the world market. Oil recovered from our seas and land is not ours. It goes to the highest bidder.
So, what happens to the oil we think we "own?" If it's successfully acquired, it's on the market. If it's washed up on our shores, it's ours.
You may be amused, but won't be surprised, that Glenn Beck is soliciting donations for his August 28 publicity event in the name of helping America's troops: http://www.facebook.com/restoringhonor
The exact words he uses to solitic money:
". It is through the support of non-profit organizations like the Special Operations Warrior Foundation (SOWF) that the families of these service members are taken care of in the event of an accident or loss of life. Help give back to these men and women by donating to the SOWF at www.specialops.org
(paragaphs later)
All contributions made to the Special Operations Warrior Foundation (SOWF) will first be applied to the costs of the Restoring Honor Rally taking place on August 28, 2010. All contributions in excess of these costs will then be retained by the SOWF"
All California Progressives, Vote Yes on 15 tomorrow, no on everything else (though 13 doesn't matter which way you go).
N
www.pahrumplife.org. writes:
Watch the Water
As I am sure the choir already knows, more and more, “water” is thought of as the new gold. Oil has been the new gold for many decades but is now losing favor in the world due to its contamination of things we living things consume and absolutely need i.e., food, water and air.
The oceans have been and yet are the ultimate sewer (remember the Cuyahoga River on fire) for all the oil industry contaminants and are now a less competitive threat to the burgeoning water industry as more and more toxins are spilled into the sea especially if and when purposeful efforts, including deregulation, and possibly dubious accidents blamed on poor judgment actions or on others, contaminate the global oceans and make them more and more cost prohibitive to process into drinking water via desalination and filtration. On purpose or not, in light of the International Cross-Political Corporatocracy and current stocks on the move, it appears that the oil industry is an ally of the water industry making water increasingly rare and coveted, and thus further enabling the water for-profit built-in success factor, life’s necessity for pure water. Is the oil industry, inadvertently or not, using its major asset the fading - undesirable in a world of global environmental deterioration, and energy alternatives – crude oil and bound to make more and more untold fortunes in the water industry, again both in the name of and at the expense of the human condition?
The International Cross-Political Corporatocracy Machine is also after your precious aquifers. The oil/gas industry is even now, through the method of fracturing (fracking), (Google “pahrumpliife, Dirty Mother Earth Frackers”) - contaminating aquifers in the US. Imagine if Ming the Merciless some day had the only pristine aquifer in the solar system or today on just the earth.
Find out who the big guys are. How are their actions limiting our water options? Do they travel to meet in far off tropical paradise hideaways and golf together with their billionaire friends in business and government? Do they scratch each other’s backs? Why are respective attorneys battling each other while these big guys tee off with each other? Are there conflicts of interest? Do they use weapons of mass deception? Do they lobby for advantages?
Initiate a search. What bottling companies, banks, and petroleum companies now and in the past have been and are investing in pristine water and then polluting, accidentally or not, other waters? How long has this been going on?
Who is being helped by the new welfare? Who is the new CCC? Is it Cronies, Cronies, Cronies or Corporatocracy, Corporatocracy, Corporatocracy, or both?
Will your grandchildren be able to afford a pure drink of water? Maybe not, unless you face the music and dance new people into offices and new laws into existence, and prosecute those humans and those so-called “too big to fail international corporations,” responsible for grievous crimes, with criminal charges where warranted, and ask for the death penalty for those corporations. A corporation’s business license is not and should not be a license to kill.
Is it OK with you for the water industry to be the new pinion gear for driving an unbridled accelerating For-Profit Corporatocracy Machine? Think about it.
URLs of interest here:
http://blog.taragana.com/science/2010/04/13/governor-questions-halliburton-on-fracking-chemicals-as-wyoming-considers-new-oil-gas-rules-10654/
http://seekingalpha.com/article/24410-t-boone-pickens-invests-in-water-should-you
Obama secretly deploys US special forces to 75 countries across world
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article71444...
President Obama has secretly sanctioned a huge increase in the number of US special forces carrying out search-and-destroy missions against al-Qaeda around the world, with American troops now operating in 75 countries.
The dramatic expansion in the use of special forces, which in their global span go far beyond the covert missions authorised by George W. Bush, reflects how aggressively the President is pursuing al-Qaeda behind his public rhetoric of global engagement and diplomacy.
When Mr Obama took office US special forces were operating in fewer than 60 countries. In the past 18 months he has ordered a big expansion in Yemen and the Horn of Africa — known areas of strong al-Qaeda activity — and elsewhere in the Middle East, central Asia and Africa.
The Amount Of Neurotoxin Pesticide Corexit Sprayed By BP Tops 1 Million Gallons
But what most people don’t know is that the active ingredient of the toxic chemical dispersant, which is up to 60% by volume, being sprayed by BP to fight the Gulf oil spill is a is a neurotoxin pesticide that is acutely toxic to both human and aquatic life, causes cancer, causes damage to internal organs such as the liver and kidneys simply by absorbing it through the skin and may cause reproductive side effects.
Read more...
We need to remind people that the 2010 Oil Drill Catastrophe is what "Drill baby drill " looks like. This is what having no safety or environmental regulations(or enforcing them) looks like.
the cfl lightbulbs probably are doing more damage and people dont care
they get in trash and goes to water
this post you made looks interesting maybe later ill read it
im part cherokee,but id say most tribes are mixed with whites and lot of old statements are outdated
the catawbas of south carolina are all mixed and no full bloods leftand they became mormons
the genie is out of the bottle and we cant turn back the nuke age
the chinese have nukes and they arent "white"
my first post
with apologies to Pete Seeger and with humble apologies to anyone having said the identical thing earlier,
it would appear that we are now Waist Deep In The Big Irony. since those politicians who previously lectured us about not wanting to have any vestige of big government interfering in their lives are suddenly crying like stuck pigs about Obama not having done enough to fix the oil gusher. as if he was personally supposed to don gear and swim down and cap it himself..
and those politicians who have been demanding Drill Baby Drill are now suggesting that Obama, not them, are too cozy with the oil companies. the irony is overhelming and suffocating. waist deep in irony? we might be neck deep. or worse. :)
Of course these Corporate Anarchist won't see a Jail Cell.. Obama effectively appointed a good Corporatist "Eric Holder " as Attorney General.. The BP Exec's will probably get a Promotion, a Bonus and Custom Luxury Yachts in Dubai >>>>>> HEAVEN FORBID we jail BP's best "Talent"..
History repeats itself .. The first time as a Tragedy .. The second time as a Farce...
~~Karl Marx
Are these Governors Marxist? , Stupid? , Or just plain Hypocrites?? The Republican Party is the party of "Family Values" .. Yet they don't mind taste testing the male prostitutes from "Rent-a-Boy" and billing it to their Religious organizations.. Republicans are "Pro Life"!! >> As long as that life is White, Wealthy, Christian and or a Fetus.. As soon as the miracle of birth is over >> suit that little bastard up into a combat uniform and send him/her off to War OR put him/her on an oil drilling platform or coal mine so they can suffocate, burn to death or drown.. The word "Conservative" means "to Conserve" .. Yet "Conservation" is the last thing on their minds.. The word "Conserve" to a Republican means "CONSUME" .. As soon as that resource is gone >>> So are the Multi -Nationals and everything in it's path is DESTROYED.. (So much for Conservation) Republicans HATE EVERYTHING about a Social Safety Net or a Public Treasury.. That is UNLESS >> BP, Haliburton , Exxon, Bank of America or AIG is in BIG trouble.. Then robbing America of our Treasury is quite ALRIGHT>> Haliburton and Black Water have been doing it for YEARS..
I would surmise that today's Republicans practice a philosophy of FAILURE... When a Republican fails in Governing then they have ultimately succeeded..
"You think this is hell..wait'll the Devil comes along in his speedboat!"
What is the difference between the economics of Libertarianism and laissez faire capitalism?
Thom has stated over and over, laissez faire capitalism has never worked.
I always prefer the empirical over the theoretical (aka imaginary).
Galileo over Aristotle.
What is the difference between the economics of Libertarianism and laissez faire capitalism?
Thom has stated over and over, laissez faire capitalism has never worked.
C4ss and Libertarianism in general have a small problem and a big problem.
The small problem is that they really aren't very good at economics. C4ss says that in a real stateless world, BP would not cause more damage than it could clean up because insurers and/or the threat of lawsuits would deter them. But this is simply false; it is economically rational to gamble more than you can afford to pay if you lose, if the potential payout is sufficient ... and "sufficient" has no relationship to the potential losses of your victims.
Hypothetical: you have zero net assets (real assets vs. debt) PLUS the opportunity to do X (what "X" may be doesn't matter; it could be flipping a coin or it could be drilling a well) which has a 50% chance of yielding you $1 Gazillion dollars, and a 50% chance of inflicting $2 Gazzillion of damage on your neighbors for which you would be liable. Do you take the chance?
Of course you do. If you lose the bet, you lose nothing because you can't pay off. The company folds, the executives go elsewhere. But if you win ah! you are fantastically wealthy.
Whenever I ask Libertarians about this hypothetical, they sputter something about how executives would never do that because it'd look bad on their resume. Apparantly they never heard of Carly Fiorina running HP into the ground and emergin' enough cred to run for Senator.
That's the small problem. The big problem is that humans don't follow *only* the laws of economics; there's a lot more going on. Running a society on Libertarianism is like running a car on gasoline but not lubricating it..
Monsanto is a terrorist corporation.
When will America and Americans experience the wrath of God?
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/06/03/another-despicable-monsanto-move-seeks-to-devastate-haiti-further.aspx
Torrential is the correct spelling for torrential puke!!!
n8CHZ
Re: I don't know whether you think of c4ss as opposition or ally.
I really don't know what I am, as I am still searching for a "political home". I do wonder why both the Democratic & Republican parties are against the Libertarians. Perhaps it is because the Libertarians are not sponsored by the corporations as the two party system is? So instead of just listening to the Democrats and the Republicans saying that the Libertarians are bad, bad, bad; I try to read what some of them are actually saying.
It's really a challenge to discern what truth really is.
The Good Side of the Oil Spill - seizing corporate assets gets some air time,, and thanks to Thom it's even on mega-corporation owned radio stations...Seize BP! is at seizebp.org
Here are the faces of seven wacky energy villains.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/28/7-energy-villains-in-your_n_591016.html
Here are the true faces of America and Americans.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/03/gulf-oil-spill-photos-ani_n_560813.html
I am working up to another terrential puke!!!