Nancy Pelosi has been dropping little references to a VAT for the last year, but no one seems to have noticed. I think this has been part of internal discussions within the administration for some time.
@Quark, I like the idea, I do... but words like "might" make me mighty nervous. I think if a VAT is seriously considered, adjusting and enforcing tariffs must be done also.
So to sum it up, not against the VAT, just want it to really be protected.
Re: "What good is a VAT, if companies can just move operations out of country and pay little to no tariffs? Seems like there is a loop hole in that plan."
A VAT might result in legislation to accommodate and encourage manufacturing in the U.S. and monetarily "punish" manufacturing outside the U.S.
I will also wear a Sombrero Sunday. I just sent an email to Governor Brewer stating that I will not carry any proof of citizenship and have requested jail time if arrested. I will then sue the State for violation of my civil rights.
I have started a facebook Group Don't Visit Arizona! that I hope people will visit.
I am declaring this Sunday (April 25th) – the day I predict Governor Jan Brewer of Arizona to sign into law a new draconian anti-immigration bill allowing police officers to subjectively harass anyone they suspect as “possibly being in our country illegally” – as National Wear a Sombrero Day!
National Wear a Sombrero Day is a political statement opposing the State of Arizona’s new law. But more importantly, it’s a way to confuse and “throw-off” an arresting officer’s “best judgment” and/or “probable cause for suspicion.”
@mstaggerlee, I say that as: it would be complete irony to see the heads of the neo-con heads explode when they realize they are ultimately the ones to pay for their piss-poor laws of oppression, that are completely at odds with our founders intentions for this country.
That can be either good or bad... depending on your Point Of View. ;-)
N
Guess I better start studying Galic. Hope Ireland will take me in when I get put on the boat.
Reconnecting with the earth is a healing act. Like a deep breath of fresh air, a walk into the forest; up a mountain, through an arid desert awakens the senses, not just the sights, sounds, smells, and touch, but the sense of how we belong, the question of how would I survive if I was left here with nothing.
How many people know how to live without the crutch of the car, or the artificial friend- the television.
Our society is built and survives upon a complicated exchange between all of us, yet many of us fail to question just because is seems to be working, could it work better and or different?
Ultimately our earths over population will lead us to a critical point. What state do you want the world to be in if we don't end up leaning over the edge of tragedy?
Is this guest for real? Schill hides behind his credentials.
Carbon resides and travels in what is known as the Carbon Cycle. Carbon cycles at various cycling intervals. Cycles of time accountants typically deal with are for example when paying wages and or salaries and or bonuses. These are usually computed as either hourly, daily, monthly, or yearly intervals of time.
Carbon cycles on a geologic scale
Geologists account for carbon that cycles from between those of thousands to millions to hundreds of millions of years. This carbon variation tends to reflect the movements of the plates as in tectonics, the science of how land masses move together and apart. Volcanoes form and explode as land masses come together and apart. Mid-ocean ridges become active and inactive. Climate patterns follow the shifts in these land masses for which reflect the ice ages and changes in sea-levels.
Geologists rely upon data such as oxygen and carbon isotopes and air bubbles preserved in ice cores from which carbon dioxide can be measured. Geologists also will utilize fossil micro fauna and flora, and pollen to extrapolate atmospheric temperature readings.
Carbon cycles on an environmental scale
Environmentalists account for carbon that cycles on time intervals for which affect human population and the species we share the planet with in generations. These data reflect expansions and contractions of biomes, industrial, agricultural, historic and economic periods and cycles. Environmentalist’s carbon data also reflects seasons, and even diurnal cycles such as how plants release carbon in the evening as dark photosynthesis and breathe in carbon during the day.
Environmentalists examine actual temperature readings from NOAA, EPA and other weather reporting data from the mid 1800s to present. Weather balloon data record carbon dioxide concentrations from famous studies such as those from Roger Revelle at Harvard and data from laboratories such as at Mauna Loa Observatory, Hawaii. Thousands of weather stations around the world track both temperature and carbon dioxide levels. Satellites monitored by NASA and other countries satellites programs also collect and monitor atmospheric gaseous concentrations and mixes.
Carbon sinks and sources simplified:
The Carbon cycle is defined as the global movement of carbon between organisms and the abiotic environment- including the atmosphere, ocean, and sedimentary rock. Below find a basic list of carbon sources and sinks as an introduction to the carbon cycle per Raven and Berg, 2006 Environment p.88 Figure 5.2. Specific guidance for accounting may be more explicit in any governing legislation.
Carbon sources /free carbon in the atmosphere
Carbon makes up about 0.038% of the atmosphere as the gas, carbon dioxide.
Carbon in coal, oil, natural gas and wood are cycled to the atmosphere by burning, or combustion. In combustion, organic molecules are rapidly oxidized- combined with oxygen- and converted into CO2 and water, with an accompanying release of heat and light.
Sources of such carbon combustibles are emitted by industry and agriculture, high concentration of livestock in factory farming (World Watch Institute, 2009), transportation, and of coal as in the production of electricity.
Tectonic Activity would include gas released at plate boundaries which would include volcanic activity. Volcanic gases have been collected by courageous volcanologists. Water vapor is the main constituent of volcanic gas (70-95 percent), followed by carbon dioxide, both global warming gases (Press and Siever, 1998).
Carbon sinks /fixed carbon in the Earth
Terrestrial and aquatic plants and trees fix carbon dioxide through the process of photosynthesis from the atmosphere. Aquatic organisms fix carbon dioxide dissolved in water as carbonate (C0 2-/3) and bicarbonate (HC0-3) for their tests and shells as calcium carbonate (CaCO3). This carbon may be stored for several hundred years or even longer.
A lot of carbon is incorporated into shells of marine organisms. When they die, their shells sink to ocean floor and form thick seabed deposits. Burial and compaction from rock (limestone).
Sedimentary rocks and fossil fuels hold almost all of Earth’s estimated 10 23 grams of carbon. For example, the soil contains an estimated 1500 x 10 15 grams of carbon. These sources can store carbon for thousands to hundreds of millions to billions of years.
References:
Press, F. and Siever, R. (1998). Understanding Earth. USA. W.H. Freeman and Company. p.119.
Goodland, R. and Anhang, J. (November/ December 2009). Livestock and Climate Change - Worldwatch Institute.
I am declaring this Sunday (April 25th) – the day I predict Governor Jan Brewer of Arizona to sign into law a new draconian anti-immigration bill allowing police officers to subjectively harass anyone they suspect as “possibly being in our country illegally” – as National Wear a Sombrero Day!
National Wear a Sombrero Day is a political statement opposing the State of Arizona’s new law. But more importantly, it’s a way to confuse and “throw-off” an arresting officer’s “best judgment” and/or “probable cause for suspicion.”
Gov. Quinn (D-IL) is supported in quest for income tax increase by Gov. Edgar (R-IL), former governor of Illinois. Blago cynically attacked that proposal, claiming he was for the 'little guy.'
If a progressive income tax chases people out of Illinois, then good riddance.
I am declaring this Sunday (April 25th) – the day I predict Governor Jan Brewer of Arizona to sign into law a new draconian anti-immigration bill allowing police officers to subjectively harass anyone they suspect as “possibly being in our country illegally” – as National Wear a Sombrero Day!
National Wear a Sombrero Day is a political statement opposing the State of Arizona’s new law. But more importantly, it’s a way to confuse and “throw-off” an arresting officer’s “best judgment” and/or “probable cause for suspicion.”
Again I point out that the best way to sequester carbon is to leave it in the ground.
Clean Coal? Is that something like Safe Cancer?
It's little wonder G.W. Bush doesn't care for thinkin'. The echo inside his head must be annoyingly distracting!
Nels,
I totally agree! :-)
Nancy Pelosi has been dropping little references to a VAT for the last year, but no one seems to have noticed. I think this has been part of internal discussions within the administration for some time.
@Quark, I like the idea, I do... but words like "might" make me mighty nervous. I think if a VAT is seriously considered, adjusting and enforcing tariffs must be done also.
So to sum it up, not against the VAT, just want it to really be protected.
N
@Desert FOX-
Wow- Good on you, for sure Tag You're IT!
I have something like a sombrero, maybe you will have support here in N. California as well.
Desert Fox,
Good on you!
Nels,
Re: "What good is a VAT, if companies can just move operations out of country and pay little to no tariffs? Seems like there is a loop hole in that plan."
A VAT might result in legislation to accommodate and encourage manufacturing in the U.S. and monetarily "punish" manufacturing outside the U.S.
Anarchy Market
N
I will also wear a Sombrero Sunday. I just sent an email to Governor Brewer stating that I will not carry any proof of citizenship and have requested jail time if arrested. I will then sue the State for violation of my civil rights.
I have started a facebook Group Don't Visit Arizona! that I hope people will visit.
What good is a VAT, if companies can just move operations out of country and pay little to no tariffs? Seems like there is a loop hole in that plan.
N
A VAT is only practicle as a replacement for the income tax, not "in addition to". Or else then you have the worst of both worlds.
WEAR A SOMBRERO DAY!
I am declaring this Sunday (April 25th) – the day I predict Governor Jan Brewer of Arizona to sign into law a new draconian anti-immigration bill allowing police officers to subjectively harass anyone they suspect as “possibly being in our country illegally” – as National Wear a Sombrero Day!
National Wear a Sombrero Day is a political statement opposing the State of Arizona’s new law. But more importantly, it’s a way to confuse and “throw-off” an arresting officer’s “best judgment” and/or “probable cause for suspicion.”
Every time a Republican is elected, I think we should slow down and start the election over, each and every time.
@mstaggerlee, I say that as: it would be complete irony to see the heads of the neo-con heads explode when they realize they are ultimately the ones to pay for their piss-poor laws of oppression, that are completely at odds with our founders intentions for this country.
That can be either good or bad... depending on your Point Of View. ;-)
N
Guess I better start studying Galic. Hope Ireland will take me in when I get put on the boat.
Reconnecting with the earth is a healing act. Like a deep breath of fresh air, a walk into the forest; up a mountain, through an arid desert awakens the senses, not just the sights, sounds, smells, and touch, but the sense of how we belong, the question of how would I survive if I was left here with nothing.
How many people know how to live without the crutch of the car, or the artificial friend- the television.
Our society is built and survives upon a complicated exchange between all of us, yet many of us fail to question just because is seems to be working, could it work better and or different?
Ultimately our earths over population will lead us to a critical point. What state do you want the world to be in if we don't end up leaning over the edge of tragedy?
Time to boycott the entire State of Arizona...?!
Why am I reminded of the movie "Born in East LA" with Cheech Marin?
(for those unfamiliar, it's a comedy about a Mexican guy who is deported because he left his wallet at home.)
Dang- had posted this in the wrong thread:
Is this guest for real? Schill hides behind his credentials.
Carbon resides and travels in what is known as the Carbon Cycle. Carbon cycles at various cycling intervals. Cycles of time accountants typically deal with are for example when paying wages and or salaries and or bonuses. These are usually computed as either hourly, daily, monthly, or yearly intervals of time.
Carbon cycles on a geologic scale
Geologists account for carbon that cycles from between those of thousands to millions to hundreds of millions of years. This carbon variation tends to reflect the movements of the plates as in tectonics, the science of how land masses move together and apart. Volcanoes form and explode as land masses come together and apart. Mid-ocean ridges become active and inactive. Climate patterns follow the shifts in these land masses for which reflect the ice ages and changes in sea-levels.
Geologists rely upon data such as oxygen and carbon isotopes and air bubbles preserved in ice cores from which carbon dioxide can be measured. Geologists also will utilize fossil micro fauna and flora, and pollen to extrapolate atmospheric temperature readings.
Carbon cycles on an environmental scale
Environmentalists account for carbon that cycles on time intervals for which affect human population and the species we share the planet with in generations. These data reflect expansions and contractions of biomes, industrial, agricultural, historic and economic periods and cycles. Environmentalist’s carbon data also reflects seasons, and even diurnal cycles such as how plants release carbon in the evening as dark photosynthesis and breathe in carbon during the day.
Environmentalists examine actual temperature readings from NOAA, EPA and other weather reporting data from the mid 1800s to present. Weather balloon data record carbon dioxide concentrations from famous studies such as those from Roger Revelle at Harvard and data from laboratories such as at Mauna Loa Observatory, Hawaii. Thousands of weather stations around the world track both temperature and carbon dioxide levels. Satellites monitored by NASA and other countries satellites programs also collect and monitor atmospheric gaseous concentrations and mixes.
Carbon sinks and sources simplified:
The Carbon cycle is defined as the global movement of carbon between organisms and the abiotic environment- including the atmosphere, ocean, and sedimentary rock. Below find a basic list of carbon sources and sinks as an introduction to the carbon cycle per Raven and Berg, 2006 Environment p.88 Figure 5.2. Specific guidance for accounting may be more explicit in any governing legislation.
Carbon sources /free carbon in the atmosphere
Carbon makes up about 0.038% of the atmosphere as the gas, carbon dioxide.
Carbon sinks /fixed carbon in the Earth
References:
Press, F. and Siever, R. (1998). Understanding Earth. USA. W.H. Freeman and Company. p.119.
Goodland, R. and Anhang, J. (November/ December 2009). Livestock and Climate Change - Worldwatch Institute.
Read more at Suite101: Carbon Sinks and Sources Budget Simplified for Green Accountants http://accounting-designations.suite101.com/article.cfm/carbon-sinks-and-sources-budget-simplified-for-green-accountants#ixzz0lqWAPsgt
Prove that I am NOT a citizen! What ever happened to the Bill of Rights? Oh, yeah, it only applies to wealthy freemen who are land holders.
@Nels, re: Returing the USA to The Confederacy of Native Americans -
(Here, I simply have to repeat something that you wrote in reply to one of MY posts yesterday.)
You say that like it's a BAD thing! :-D
WEAR A SOMBRERO DAY!
I am declaring this Sunday (April 25th) – the day I predict Governor Jan Brewer of Arizona to sign into law a new draconian anti-immigration bill allowing police officers to subjectively harass anyone they suspect as “possibly being in our country illegally” – as National Wear a Sombrero Day!
National Wear a Sombrero Day is a political statement opposing the State of Arizona’s new law. But more importantly, it’s a way to confuse and “throw-off” an arresting officer’s “best judgment” and/or “probable cause for suspicion.”
Gov. Quinn (D-IL) is supported in quest for income tax increase by Gov. Edgar (R-IL), former governor of Illinois. Blago cynically attacked that proposal, claiming he was for the 'little guy.'
If a progressive income tax chases people out of Illinois, then good riddance.
WEAR A SOMBRERO DAY!
I am declaring this Sunday (April 25th) – the day I predict Governor Jan Brewer of Arizona to sign into law a new draconian anti-immigration bill allowing police officers to subjectively harass anyone they suspect as “possibly being in our country illegally” – as National Wear a Sombrero Day!
National Wear a Sombrero Day is a political statement opposing the State of Arizona’s new law. But more importantly, it’s a way to confuse and “throw-off” an arresting officer’s “best judgment” and/or “probable cause for suspicion.”