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Elizabeth, thank you for posting what so often crosses my mind as I listen. Much as I love listening to Thom's broadcast on a daily basis, I too am often offended by the condescension inherent in some of his and others on the shows dismissiveness of Christians in general. I too am a progressive Christian. I am frankly apalled that Republican party which stands for everything that is antithetical to the Christian faith has co-opted Christianity. I see it as a means of controlling that sector of the population with its knee jerk reaction to Abortion rights and Gay rights.
Seeing the dismemberment of human bodies must truly be a glorious sight for Nazi Americans!!!!!
Nazi America really does love to kill God's children!!!
http://www.opednews.com/populum/linkframe.php?linkid=101885
Today and every day is a BOHICA DAY!!!
BEND OVER HERE IT COMES AGAIN!!!
Just before Thanksgiving Obama spared a turkey's life but on December 1, 2009 no Americans soldiers will be spared as he will send more cannon fodder to their death.
The final nail has been pounded into Nazi America's coffin.
http://www.opednews.com/populum/linkframe.php?linkid=101927
Neocons rule Nazi America!!!
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/foreign-policy/2405-obama...
Nazi America as a phoenix will never rise from its ashes.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/President-Obama-prepares-t-by-michael-p...
The above is a must read article!!!
The Family
If you have been reading comments on Thom’s blog, you would have read both Loretta and Quark mention that we are PART OF A FAMILY. They are absolutely correct. All of us in this world are part of God’s family. The problem is that in the United States we are divided between the people who have and the people who do not have.
On C Street in Washington, D. C. there is a cult called The Family. This cult believes that if you have money, like the ten percent of Nazi Americans, you are chosen by God. The other ninety percent are only cannon fodder to be slaves and to fight Nazi America’s endless wars to control all the natural resources in the world, like oil and natural gas, especially in Central Asia and the Middle East.
In Nazi America we have corporations, companies, like health care and others, banks, and financial institutions that have been screwing the ninety percent royally. We are not even part of the world family who belongs to the International Criminal Court that is located at The Hague, Netherlands.
Americans without money are not considered part of the family. The ten percent with money sit on their fat behinds coming up with new ideas to how best enslave the entire world population. The ten percent will say that they do not have fat behinds. I say that they do have fat and wide behinds. How can we tell? Let them take the FAT BEHIND TEST.
They are to squat on a toilet seat. If their cheeks from their behind overlap the toilet seat, they have a fat behind.
I am presently listening to a FM radio station in Detroit. Gene Autry was singing "Santa's coming to towm." The song has a sentence in it. "We are all God's children." My guess is that we have never learned those words in Nazi America.
In January of 2001, I had a massive heart attack. It turned out, after testing, that I had an earlier event prior. It was somewhat miraculous that I survived long enough to receive surgical help in buying me time. While my medical treatment was state of the art, the results were mixed. My prognosis is tenuous. Only breakthroughs in stem cell remedies or a heart transplant will offer longterm hope. (Another reason to abhor W.) The doctors told me to sell my business and retire at the age of 46. My incredible wife told me that she could take up the slack and that I should get well and then "Go get that son of a bitch dis-elected." I told her that I didn't know if I could accomplish that much,but , would try. Thus began my new career of working in politics.
I began attending local Democratic meetings that fall. In the first hour of the first meeting I attended, it was clear to me that the Democrats were dis-organized and lacked discipline. They liked to have meetings. At these meetings they liked to sit around and bitch and lament how evil the Cons were. Near the end of that first meeting, where I knew no one, I got up and told them that while they were busy discussing how bad the Republicans were, those same Republicans were busy planning how to eat the Democrat's lunch. Ever since I have been trying to get them to think strategically and pro-actively. It is a hard sell. Too many are there wanting to speech-a-fy and pontificate. Too few are willing to roll up their sleeves and work like a team with a common, specific, goal. Most want to be chiefs and too few are willing to be Indians. The expression about herding cats was probably invented after encountering Democrats.
The Republicans have several advantages, not the least of which are strategies which recognize the fundamental importance of messaging in modern politics. It is not only the choice of words for specific issues but the building of popular public opinion which plows the ground for selling a construct which is favorable for future gains. An example is "big government". Ask a hundred people to say the first word which comes to mind after hearing those two words, and I will bet upwards of 80% will say: BAD. This is the result of years and years of message discipline and repetition. This came from a conservative think tank years and years ago. The Republicans through their connection to big business have invested in and relied upon the advice and direction of think tanks who hire very clever and intelligent experts in manipulating public opinion. These are scientists of selling things. They understand industrial psychology and cognitive linguistics. They are experts at mining public opinion through targeted polling. They realize that knowing what magazines people read can not only predict their opinions but offer clues to how those opinions can be steered. They understood early on that manipulating fear and other emotions were far more effective than appealing to reason. Selling soap taught them that. They had been doing that for more than a hundred years. The marriage of commercial expertise with political campaigning methods was inevitable. It was probably inevitable that the fascist alliance of business interests and the Republicans would first realize the potential of applying these sciences of psychology to the sciences of politics. The Democrats still haven't fully caught up, especially at the state level. The Obama campaign closed that gap and actually lurched ahead in at least a few areas. They took the example of Howard Dean and bettered it through their use of the Internet, and at the same time harnessed the talents and votes of the youth in a way never thought possible before. Unlike Howard Dean, the Obama camp has retained this expertise and information for his Organizing for America operation rather than trying to spread it throughout the Democratic Party as Dean did. Barack & Company have a different agenda than Governor Dean did. Howard is an "US" person.
I have worked hard to educate myself about the science of politics these past eight years. I have been lucky to be in a great place to learn. I have been even luckier to have some extremely gifted mentors who have been willing to teach me. (Most are younger than me) Messaging and communication are very precise and demanding disciplines which are absolutely crucial to success in influencing political thought. The right word(s) can make a election. The wrong word(s) can torpedo the best efforts of dedicated progressives. Our opponents are expert at capitalizing on openings that we give. Yes we all have the right to say what we want, BUT...throwing around words like NAZI is not only not accurate, or cute, but is potentially destructive to our cause. What good is it to fight a wrong if in doing so we become more like what we hate? Throwing around charges of evil and Nazi sounds more like george W. than the words of a rational and thoughtful progressive. I'm not the thought police or the head arbiter of good here or anywhere else... but for myself. You can take my words and consider their merit or reject them as you will. I however believe resolutely that shrill and reckless words will not help to advance understanding or progress and may in fact help the forces of greed and indifference gain ground. So, Gerald, Loretta and others who encourage this practice...I respectfully disagree....not only that....your forcing them on me over and over again is kind of disrespectful and rude...but I'll survive...as long as I can hold my breath. I still value your many special attributes more than the few which may vex me. Peace to all.
P.S. Don't buy anything today! :-)
Happy Thanksgiving.....
Interesting timing...I found an entire set of history kits for a number of presidents in a brick brack store. Each kit has a cassette you listen to and a comic book with the exact same wording you hear on the cassette and read along with. There were published in the Library of Congress.
On page 21 of the George Washington book, "In 1773, the citizens of Boston dumped 350 chests of British Tea into the harbor to protest England's unfair taxes." Leaving you to think it was the tax itself that was the catalyst for the Boston Tea Party.
However, as we know from being 'Hartmannites' and by verifying this with other historians that this is true ....A tax on tea would be maintained, but the company [East India Tea Company] would actually be able to sell its tea for a price that was lower than before. A MONOPOLY doesn't allow for competition. As such the British East India Company could lower its prices http://www.ushistory.org/us/9f.asp - and put the locals out of business as Wal-mart does today.
But then, on page 52 of the book. is 'during the first term, Washington and his cabinet had to decide to best way to collect money, Said George: "we must place a tax on foreign goods coming into the country."
Just another example of how Thom Hartmann show listeners are grateful for having the inside track on what does and does not makes cents and sense.
What data was that Sally James looking at?
I'm so happy Thom is now on FSTV. Maybe one day I'll actually see the show on the day it's broadcast. ;o)
Pet Peeve: All Christians are evangelical. It's part of our "job description," per the instructions in the Pauline letters in the New Testament, per the original Greek. Not all of us are, however, FUNDAMENTALISTS. The two terms are NOT interchangeable. So, Thom, are you referring to Christian fundamentalists or Christians in general? As a progressive Christian, I am evangelical, but I practice my evangelism very differently from my fundamentalist brothers and sisters. Our theology is very different, so please don't lump us together when referring to issues that are associated with FUNDAMENTALISM. (It's disrespectful all around.) Language matters, Thom, you yourself say so. Please be mindful. Thank you.
I heard some loud, opinionated (as if there’s any other kind) sports radio host proclaim that Congress, and then government in general, was incompetent because it hadn’t fixed the economy yet. He sounded like one of those conservatives who blames government for everything, but can’t make up his mind if it’s because of what government did do—or didn’t do, like provide effective regulation. If government is incompetent, it was because it got out of the way of the private sector, and allowed business to do whatever it deemed "necessary" to extract profits, regardless of the effect on society. The governor of the state of Washington is considering cutting out Basic Health—which covers 65,000 of the working poor with affordable health insurance, with an equal number on the waiting list—from the budget altogether; the state is facing a (relatively) massive budget deficit due to a shortage of tax revenue. This is in part due to huge tax breaks the governor had given in to for companies like Boeing, which demanded billions in tax breaks in exchange for 1,500 jobs for the 787—while Boeing continued to lay-off workers on other lines despite near record orders, causing it to fall behind on deliveries. Because the state’s budget is mandated to be balanced, and because of restrictions in gathering up additional tax revenues, the state has taken to penalizing the usual suspects: students and the poor. Ultimately, the real culprit is not government per say, but those who facilitate the greed of corporations and those who run them--at the expense of the working people they are supposed to serve.
I will be away from the computer for a day or two and so I want to leave you with an open confession and a lighter side of me as a person.
A Marinated Four Bean Salad
As my energy diminishes and health concerns grow, I am taking the time to share with you a personal history of my life and an open confession. Until the 1984 election I was an operative for the Nazi Party, commonly known as the GOP. I left the Nazi Party because I had come to the belief that Ronald Reagan was a pathological liar. Part of our covert missions was to search and destroy any creditable Democrat or creditable Democrat issues. Although I am no longer a Nazi Party operative, I still have some friends within the Nazi Party who have informed me that my name is on file.
My name is on file in two areas in an office complex between Washington, D.C. and Baltimore. In this office complex there are names of suspected domestic terrorists and suspected foreign terrorists. I have two files under suspected miscellaneous terrorists. One file is on deadly words and the second file is on my breaking of wind exploits.
If you have read my words and thoughts on the United States of Evil, you have some idea why my words and thoughts have a special file as a suspected miscellaneous terrorist. What you may not be aware of has to do with my breaking of wind can be deadly. I must be honest with you. I love a marinated four bean salad, especially if it is refrigerated the night before I eat it. I can make an entire meal of a marinated four bean salad.
When I break wind, people can become nauseous. What can be potential deadly in my breaking wind is determined if I add marinated broccoli and marinated Brussels sprouts to the marinated four bean salad.
My wife is reluctant to prepare me a marinated four bean salad. Here is the reason. We were invited to a social event by some neocon friends who extended an invitation to my wife and me as a token for diversity with two progressive friends. It was in the winter time. My wife had prepared for me a marinated four bean salad the night before the social event. Of course, I had the salad in the mid-morning because these neocon friends really piss me off. By evening I was ready. We went to the social gathering and midway through the evening I started to break wind. The stench was terrible. Women were fainting to the floor, on tables, over chairs, and even my wife pretended to faint. She did so as to not draw attention to her husband who was the culprit. By now she is immune to my breaking of wind adventures. At first she did sleep with a gas mask by her side of the bed. She was not immune to the toxic wind coming from my side of the bed early in our marriage.
The men could not stop laughing. My guess is that such an experience is a male thing.
When my wife and I were driving home, she was furious and she said that she would never prepare such a salad in the winter. Summer is a better time because the windows can be open and people can gather outside and away from the nauseous stench.
When the CIA and the FBI heard of the nauseous event, they investigated and my name was added to their files, under the name of Breaking Wind, a Potentially Deadly Terrorist Weapon.
I enjoy civil disagreements.
A Country Named Job
I am writing this letter for people who may have read the Bible. In the Bible there is in the Old Testament, the Book of Job. Job lived about 500 or 600 years before the birth of Jesus Christ. It was also around the time that God was not pleased with His people. God has given everything to the people and they were not listening to Him. They were not willing to help one another and their lives were very sinful. God was going to destroy the earth.
For some reason God was going to give the world another chance. He was going to test the world with one person and that person was Job. Job was a man of prayer and he would also praise God. God blessed Job with wealth, land, property, and family. God slowly started to take away what He had given to Job. Job still prayed and praised God. A neighbor came by one day and he talked to Job. He said to Job that God was punishing Job and Job still prayed and praised God. How could Job continue to love God? Job said to his neighbor that it was God’s will and God knows best.
God was so moved by Job’s words and loyalty that He spared the earth from destruction. Job’s behavior silenced God. God would speak only one more time. God spoke at Jesus’ baptism in the Jordan River. “This is my son in whom I am well pleased.”
From Jesus’ death to the present we keep hearing that God works in mysterious ways. With God there are no surprises. No, God does not work in mysterious ways. He has given us His son and the words of Jesus. Our problem is that we refuse to listen to God’s son and His words. God has been testing the world through the United States of America. God has not chosen a person; He has chosen a country. The United States of America is now the Job of the New Testament.
Job, the country, has failed every test. Job, the country, holds steadfastly to hatred and lies. She has also embraced murders and war crimes. She has also turned her back on God and God’s son, Jesus. Christianity is no longer Job’s religion. Bushianity has taken over as Job’s religion. Job and the country’s beauty believe that they are better than God. Like Lucifer, the most beautiful of God’s angels, Job believes that God is not needed and the axis of evil is better than God. Job’s axis of evil clings to money, nuclear weapons, and Bush’s words.
Job, the country, will also bring down the rest of world and its population. Job has failed God and her destruction and the world’s destruction are imminent.
When do we start our war protests? We better start soon, eh... So much love to everyone here. I am so thankful for your wisdom, humor, passion, intelligence and drive to keep this moving even when it looks a little bleak... I couldn't survive without you guys.
sending everyone lots and lots and lots of love for the holidays.
Loretta
@GeraldSocha: I am just going on record as stating that your “Nazi America” labeling is doing your cause as much good as the “Meat is Murder” meme is stopping turkeys from being delicious Thanksgiving holiday treats. Zer-rada, zip, nada, none, nope, less-than-sub-zero . . .
loretta and Quark, you have said the KEY WORDS we are part of a family but our family is divided with the Nazis of our country in control of the mass media and by their hatred and lies.
Obama has chosen not to be part of the world family by refusing to have Nazi America join the International Criminal Court and to have mass murderers and war criminals like Bush II and Cheney investigated, prosecuting, and put in jail for the rest of their lives. Our country will never heal unless we become part of the world family and to remember as God's children we are His family.
B Roll,
If you're out there, happy Thanksgiving! (I miss your comments.)
Richard L. Adlof, you have every right to disagree with me. If people agreed with everyone, we would not be living in a viable world. My concern are the Nazis who want to shout down people who disagree or lock them up or kill them.
mstaggerlee, Thom has mentioned it and I have read about it and Northern Europe has the happiest people. They have the safety nets to help them live longer. If I had the money, I would relocate to a Northern European country.
We keep hearing that tomorrow is Thanksgiving and there is much to be grateful for since we live in America.
Stalinista Obama will be sending up to 40,000 cannon fodder soldiers to Afghanistan and we will spend $40 to 50 billion a yeat for a generation or more so we can control the oil and natural gas resources in Central Asia. I heard on the Thom show today that no Middle Eastern countries have sent their troops to fight in Afghanistan. We have cannon fodder Americans doing most of the fighting in a losing war.
What am I grateful for? Let me try and answer you that question! I am grateful for the fact that God let me live long enough to see that the USA is not a good, holy, and saintly nation. We are an evil, vile, and wicked nation. We start wars to see if our weaponry research can be applied in real wars and not in a laboratory controlled testing. How can I be grateful for our ongoing wars that are killing God’s children? Our Nazi Americns are grateful of such killings. Our Nazi Americans are grateful that lack of health care is killing off human beings. Our banks and financial institutions are screwing us royally. Deregulations and lack of pay raises are enslaving Americans. The middle class is being systematically depleted. Pensions and investments have been raped from us by the banksters and the crooks on Wall Street. Main Street experiences a BOHICA Day everyday. BEND OVER HERE IT COMES AGAIN!!!
We, as Nazi Americans, must remove ourselves from our constant state of denial that we are not so evil. Our evil is deep and widespread.
Bless you all and keep you well.
Gerald,
There are anger-management problems on both sides of my family. I recognize alot of what goes into it. I empathize with those who are angry what is behind the anger. However, all it does is raise the blood pressure of those who are angry. God knows, we have SO many reasons to be angry in this country. I, myself, can get very angry and have trouble calming down at times. (For example, I told the "push poll" shop-at-Walmart phone survey person this week to convey to the Walton family that they should "go to Hell" for all the damage they've done to this country.)
I try to channel my anger and passion into considered argument, whenever I can. I actually feel better when I do that.
I don't have the right to tell anyone else what to do, God knows. I just try to help, if possible (and ask forgiveness if I overstep in my enthusiam.)
Yes Gerald, Sometimes I meditate before I post or write letters. While meditating, I ask for words that others will want to read and think about. I try very hard not to insult the intelligence of other liberals who I know are so very close to sharing my beliefs and dreams for our country.
I know that the subtle differences in our political disagreements will not stop us from working together to stop global warming, gain access to health care, fight corporations, help get everyone housing, clothing, education, healthy food, and access to life affirming art, literature and music. We will soon be directing our attention to stopping the war in Afghanistan and we will need to work together!
Gerald, please remember that we are part of your family! So we deserve to be treated with intelligent respect when you write your posts.
Happy Thanksgiving!
loretta, thank you again!
Quark, I have already had a massive heart attack in 1994. As I laid in the hospital, Mary, the mother of Jesus, stood by my bed watching over me.
I made a promise that should I live I would no longer worry about being politically nice and politically correct in my words.