Chi Matt -- CVS should have learned from my previous comment. They should have not described those products as targeted towards blacks. Those products were targeted towards a socio-economic class in near poverty.

agelbert -- I think the tax and dividend would solve the fossil fuel problems. I am always amazed at the power of government. For example, that wimpy $800 billion stimulus package back in 2009 changed a 700,000 a month job loss into a 200,000 a month job gain.

Your description of Bosardi constants seems to imply that money came into existence for bookkeeping barter transactions. You need to discuss the history of money with the MMT economists. They say that money was created as a way to pay for the commons.

GREAT POST !! I find it interesting article. It is all about climate change . I am hoping that those scientists - policymakers - and activists can find ways to fight back climate change very soon .

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Thom,

This is what we have to do WORLDWIDE. If we don't, we die.

The bottom line is that humans, although we are tasked as self aware beings with being stewards of those life forms who are not, are a function of the biosphere, just as all the other life forms are.

We have NOT "risen above" the other life forms with our polluting example. The reverse is true. Our science CANNOT replace life forms that go extinct. We can't even make a paramecium! We are STUCK when a large enough percentage of the biosphere we MUST have to survive dies off. And THAT is ALREADY BAKED IN, according to Hansen and thousands of other serious scientists.

We have NOT earned the right to do anything on this biosphere except to obey the rules of planetary biochemistry that our scientists have discovered. We don't do that and we die, period.

So we can sit here and hem and haw about whether this or that system is "doable", "practical" or "too utopian" while we are oh, so cautious in not wanting to tinker with all those "Great traditions" and "individuality" and "freedom" that gave us our present Dystopia. Good luck with that.

I propose that we go from a defunct "carrying Capacity" meme to a "Caring Capacity" meme.

This world view modification is life promoting, instead of death rewarding.

First, we would need to adopt Hansen's "Golden Opportunity" (tax and dividend) on fossil fuels along with the elimination of any and all subsidies and tax deductions for exploration for fossil fuels.

Second, codifying into international law fines and/or imprisonment for biosphere harming activities (e.g. fossil fuel exploration and non-bioremidiated mining) must occur across the board in order to ensure compliance to the Caring Capacity meme.

Third, we adopt the product of a Caring Capacity concept called a modified Borsadi Constant. The modification consists of Biosphere math applied to the basket of commodities Borsadi proposed. The modified Borsadi Constant must be the ONLY LEGAL TENDER in order to ensure compliance to the Caring Capacity meme. Of course, the international community could expand that basket to include other, less known, but important commodities vital to biosphere restoration. This requires a planetary ecology inventory of the biosphere by objective scientists.

An inventory of the biosphere must be RADICALLY different than those now made by the CIA and all the other profit over planet exploiters that operate on the carrying capacity meme (i.e. ANYTHING we get from the ground that harms the biosphere MORE than nurtures it MUST be considered too expensive to extract, period).

For those that will wail and moan about how we need fossil fuel this and fossil fuel that (pesticides, fertilizers, plastics, etc.) in order to avoid having to cull the human population, I present to you the example of China BEFORE the industrial revolution.

For over 1,000 YEARS they had such a perfectly balanced use of human feces for fertilizing crops, that they obtained a population density FAR above anything any other country in the world has reached as of this date. And they did that WITHOUT warring on other countries (yeah they had internal conflict but nobody's perfect! ) and WITHOUT CAPITALISM several centuries before the industrial revolution.

With the knowledge we now possess, ALL the products we need to thrive can be obtained IN HARMONY with the biosphere. Any population pressure we experience can be solved by GROWING the biosphere onto arid, desolate portions of the globe. There are a LOT of those.

When the limit to THAT is reached within a century or so, we can terraform mars to give us another 1000 years of growing elbow room. It's a BIG universe out there! The reason more people don't see this is that they are brainwashed to think SCARCITY, SCARCITY and SCARCITY equals VALUE. That's the exploitive, profit over planet mindfork we have been visited with for the benefit of the Gordon Gecko IDIOTS.

Here's the CARING CAPACITY CURRENCY part of the proposal:

Present Dystopia:

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The "currency" of Dystopia:

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The BorsodI Constant aka "the Exeter experiment "InFLatIon Free Currency (approximately 1971-1974)

United States Constitution forbids the counterfeiting of this nation’s currency, however, it in no way limits the circulation of a completely alternative medium of exchange...

[url=http://www.scribd.com/doc/13266703/3-09-Ralph-Borsodi-Constant-Currency#]3 09 Ralph Borsodi Constant Currency[/url]

What MUST we do to have a type of FUNCTIONAL society based on human CARING CAPACITY instead of the exploited biosphere's "carrying capacity"?

We must adopt a currency [color=green]that reflects REAL VALUE in the biosphere. The use of this currency must nurture LIFE, not reward coercion, greed, war and death.

Ralph Borsodi came up with a local currency called the "CONSTANT".

I like it. With some fine tuning, it would fit the bill for a Green Libertarian Socialist currency that would meet the Caring Capacity requirement to nurture LIFE, not reward coercion, greed, war and death.

SNIPPET:

The first Constants were sold on June 21st 1972. Over a period of about three years, Borsodi presented his ideas to many people who deposited approximately $100,000 in his bank experiment called Arbitrage International and the funds were used to buy the basket of 30 basic commodities on the world market. (Arbitrage International maintained a Luxembourg and a London office, in addition to its temporary headquarters in Exeter, New Hampshire.)

"The value of a Constant was based on that of specific amounts of thirty basic commodities,

including gold, silver, iron, aluminum, lead, copper, nickel, tin, zinc, coal, oil, wheat, barley, rice, rye, oats, soya, maize, wool, cotton, cocoa, coffee, copra, hides, jute, rubber, cement, sulphur and sugar, and holders could sell them at any time for the total of whatever the constituents were then worth:

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Borsodi’s organisation, Independent Arbitrage International, recalculated the Constant’s underlying value monthly and let the banks know. " People who bought Constants from Borsodi’s organisation at, say, $2.18 a 10-Constant note were surprised later when the bank paid them $2.19 for it" a local newspaperman, Mel Most, wrote after the experiment had been running for seven months."

"To everybody’s surprise, even including Borsodi, many people bought Constant notes and made deposits in the bank checking account. At the same time Constants began to circulate around the town of Exeter, where restaurants and other businesses accepted them in payment."

The participants in the experiment saw the value of their constant rise 17% in three years. 36 months into the test, "...a constant bought in 1970 can still be traded for exactly one constant’s worth of goods . . . while a dollar will now buy only 85% of what it would purchase three years ago."

[url=http://www.scribd.com/doc/13266703/3-09-Ralph-Borsodi-Constant-Currency#]3 09 Ralph Borsodi Constant Currency[/url]

HERE is the typical BALONEY double talk response from the gooberment:

What did the U.S. Treasury Department have to say about the private currency?

A Treasury agent was quoted at the time saying, "We don’t care if he issues pine cones, as long as it is exchangeable for dollars so that transactions can be recorded for tax purposes."

BALONEY!

"Tax purposes" DOES NOT HAVE BEANS to do with it and COERCION to make people accept a worthless fiat currency issued by the "Federal" Reserve has EVERYTHING to do with it. But they don't say that, do they? THE INSTANT people with REAL currency try to PROPERLY value fiat dollars (see USED toilet paper or less), the profit over planet counterfeiters get their family jewels in an uproar.

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http://www.doomsteaddiner.net/forum/index.php/topic,4600.msg73211.html#msg73211

Feel free to pass this on with or without attribution. TPTB, not the overwhelming majority of the human biomass, are killing this biosphere. WE HAVE TO STOP THEIR SUICIDAL INSANITY OR WE WILL GO EXTINCT.

Hillary is a political chameleon who will say anything to get elected and who is concerned only for her own personal political ambitions. In 2003 she strongly supported the invasion of Iraq, in the '90s her husband repealed Glass-Steagall that caused the mess she will now express outrage against. Count on her to try to do a pale Elizabeth Warren impersonation - until she gets elected.
She represents everything that is wrong with the Democratic Party. She's a DLC, softer line oligarch (softer than the Republicans').
She should run as a Republican. She's a fraud.
If, in this undemocratic system, we HAVE to vote for her then we may have to but the primaries haven't even started yet. There is no reason any self appointed politburo should decide on our behalf who the nominee is to be.

Again with the missing "No" button! Anyway, I think there time, but very very little of it left, and the longer we wait the more severe it will have to be. Frankly, I don't see anything serious happen until after we pass the tipping point beause until then, corporations will continue to reap huge profits, and then afterward, they will begin to offer (sell) "solutions" that everyone will have to have, and again, they'll make a killing off the killing of life on this planet. Of course they'll have the economci resources to ensure that they and their own are adaquately safe and secure.

Let's parse "freedom." There are two major branches of meaning: freedom from, aspired to by the poor and oppressed not to have things done to them and freedom to, in which those free of significant limit aspire to new behaviors. The wealthy wish to be free to exercise the power that their weath affords them. The poor wish to be free from the power exercised over them. Same word but very different meanings.

I forgot to mention every democrat in the senate voted for card check, and every republican voted against it.

The dems are very different from the repugs.

ChicagoMatt, in both cases it ultimately needs to be cured.

I had a female friend who started dated someone else (we weren't interested in each other). After every date, she would ask (as a way of complaining), "Why do guys do ___?" In every case, my reply was, "I don't know. I would never do that." She quickly moved in with him, and stayed there for 4 years. He was verbally abusive and sexually coercive. He had typical wife-beater traits like trying to separate her from her family. When she finally broke up with him, we moved in together. She soon had to get a restraining order against him. Through our 6 years living together it became apparent that she had overgeneralized to the point that she couldn't separate me from him, even though I was his opposite. We were just Men. I once went to find her in the neighboring park, because I was going to be out until midnight and I wanted to make sure that she had keys. Her reaction was that I was keeping tabs on her like he used to.

So either way, that reaction is a hindrance. We might sympathize for a time, but people have to be willing to heal and learn.

Chi Matt -- When a women becomes scared of men, do we not try to help her realize that all men are not like that?

When a white man is mugged by a black men, we should try to help him realize that he was more likely mugged by a person in a lower socio-economic class and not a black man.

A million-mother march would be great, especially if they all had infants. At least 10,000 of those kids would be crying at any time; anyone would give in to that.