Of course we should,however, until the powers that be (and by that I mean the corporate powers behind the government) see a reason to, it won't happen. For them, it's not about clean air or clean water. "Global Warming" is fantasy, and that's the message they'll push. Landfills aren't in their neighborhoods. Unless they see a quick way to make a buck, it won't happen.

Among the boomer exceptions are Bernie, Elizabeth W, and Dennis K

AIW -- RE running out of societies/countries. If the oligarchs looked that far ahead with their greed, many of the problems we have today would not exist.

As per the 2nd to last caller on Thom's show today...I posted a link to the documentary he referenced on Thom's live blog page last week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM

Well worth the time.

Also, in reference to Thom's last caller and the real reason for falling oil prices...excellent interview on PRN

http://prn.fm/global-research-news-hour-looming-economic-collapse-scenar...

The middle class, lower class, and upper class (except for the gangsters) need:

(per this film (almost three and one half hours long, but interesting))

"in order to honor the memory of President Kennedy, Americans are now duty-bound to finish his work by finally ending the world-wide tyranny of the CIA."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM

What if some high school teacher were to show this documentary to his or her American History class, **** big to-do??? **** Maybe the subject of more debate and discussion than "American Sniper"

The day before yesterday on The Big Picture Liv Ullman said that the Republicans create Republican voters by causing people to prosper and changing their vested interest into "monied interests" and Democrats create Democratic voters by getting people on welfare and making them welfare dependant, typical conservative, big business shill bullshit artistry.

What really happens is that Democrats create voters for Republicans and Republicans create voters for Democrats. Pat Brown, former Governor of California in the early '60s, and current Governor Jerry Brown's father, wrote in his book about Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan the Political Chameleon, that he wrote when Ronald Reagan was running for Governor of California, that the Democratic Party was a victim of its own success. It ended the Great Depression, created the great blue collar middle class. It made college acessible to most everyone so that the next, subsequent generations became not only middle class but upper middle class - if not upper class, hence the great yuppie "overclass" of the '80s - and created a fabulous prosperity where a middle class living standard could be taken for granted.

So what then happens when people start making money? Their vested interests change, they start buying stock and voting Republican. They simply have more invested in upper class concerns. (Saul Alinsky interestingly described how the poor Chicago stock yards laborers he organized suddenly started talking like Republicans when they succeeded in their campaigns and won a better deal and gained a modest middle class income.)

Republicans, on the other hand, conversely create voters for the Democrats by impoverishing people - and making them welfare dependent.

First paragraph: "they're" not "their".

Kend! Are you believing anything you hear on Fox news? Don't you know they're only henchmen on a hatchet job?

You should believe the people from the university, if Fox is trying to make them look bad it's because Fox is afraid of them - so they're probably right.

Now I wanna see you reply to my post and try to defend Fox News.

"National Bureau of Economic Research" sounds like some government agency or an august institution with some claim to legitimacy. It's important to understand that this is not the case.

From Source Watch:

Between 1985 and 2001, the organization received $9,963,301 in 73 grants from only four foundations:

• John M. Olin Foundation, Inc.
• Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation
• Scaife Foundations (Sarah Mellon Scaife)
• Smith Richardson Foundation

Ahh...all rich conservative donors trying to maintain the fiction that the tragic failure of trickle down was not responsible for the Great Recession (or the Great Depression for that matter). Beware: for forty years they've also seeded universities with big grants and hordes of economics professors, most of whom, big surprise, teach supply side economics.

Conservatives, over many decades, set up countless propaganda outfits with legitimate sounding names (ex: Greening Earth Society "CO2 is good!") to produce "research" that supports their positions (if not the facts) which they then wave around to "prove" they're right.

I should try this on my wife at 4am: "Dear, now research by the "National Institute for Responsible Husbands" says that staying out all night drinking has been shown to strengthen parenting skills and improve liver function ".

And Liz, "Where were the Democrat Georgia voters..." should be "Where were the Democratic Georgia voters". It's like saying "Where were the Republic voters" -obviously grammatically incorrect. I'm not playing grammar police however -I'm calling out you and other conservatives who used this childish trick to diminish your opponent.

It just makes the rest of what you say lose any credibility.

You're welcome.

liz--
I should have added that evil is in control. And that "the time is at hand" Rev. 22:10. There is no more time. JESUS is coming. Read rev. chap. 21 & 22, the last chaps. of the bible.
When HE comes, will HE find faith on the earth? Luke 18: 1-27

Boehner and McConnell and their ilk are the ones stealing from our children and grandchildren. Who the hell do they think they're kidding?! These guys are always blaming someone else for their own crimes. Classic psychopathic pabulum for a deliberately misinformed public. If this wasn't so tragic, I'd think it was hilarious in its absurdity. - AIW