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  • Time for a Republican Party name change/meme change: New name: "The Republican-Koch Coalition"   1 day 7 hours ago

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  • Time for Progressives to Boycott the Democratic Party   1 day 7 hours ago
    Quote KennyMac:

    Chris Hedges is right—the traditional levers of power in our Democratic system have been neutralized. Voting is a sham that only does more harm by giving consent to the power elite.

    Not voting also gives the same power to the power elite. Our system doesn't care if 70% of the voting age population votes... 35% or 5%. In the end, minus a 3ed party candidate, the election winner is someone who prevailed only among those who voted... and that vote count always equals 100%.

    So the real question is whether we hold our nose and vote Dem and forever get stuck in the two party trap, boycott the Dems and give the rabid right full reign, or become insurgents and push for real democratic reforms to break up the two party system and reform the Constitution... even if it takes 50 years.

  • Historically some of the biggest fighters for human rights have been "billionaires"   1 day 7 hours ago

    You may not be aware that German law mandates that companies have union representatives in management positions. In this country we have lawmakers passing laws to cripple unions.

    Yours is a sweet sentiment but we have long passed any sort of pretense at mutual goodwill and conciliation. In this country there has been an all out war on labor from 19th century strike breaking goons to 21st century offshoring. Of course not every rich person is a monster but the vast majority are. They didn't get to be fantastically wealthy by being empathetic and generous. They leave bodies in their wake and go home and sleep at night. Even the noble philanthropist will typically line up behind his or her board of directors to take the profit rather than share the wealth when it comes to business.

    As far as the potential for violent overthrow I think that history shows Americans are so cowed and insecure in their employment that they will suffer incredible insult before they dare to even complain. If the financial collapse and subsequent bailout followed up by a failure of the government to prosecute the criminal behavior that led to that collapse didn't cause at least a sweeping reorganization of the government and the economy then perhaps it will take starvation and desperation on a massive scale before anything meaningful is accomplished. I don't know.

    Corporations and the wealthy have been consolidating and marshalling their wealth and power for decades to destroy New Deal programs and the modern welfare state. Asking them to play nice may get you an insincere handshake and an assurance of good intentions but those things aren't going to translate to anything you can cash.

  • Time for Progressives to Boycott the Democratic Party   1 day 8 hours ago

    Chris Hedges is right—the traditional levers of power in our Democratic system have been neutralized. Voting is a sham that only does more harm by giving consent to the power elite. Revolt to overthrow the Corporate State is the only alternative.

    Anti nailed in in post #1

  • 60 Minutes’ Cal. Aquifer Story Ignores 3 billion Gals of Fracking Waste Injected into Aquifers   1 day 8 hours ago

    This is really maddening. 72,000 gallons a day poured down the sewer during the severest drought in California history.

    Neighbors concerned of water waste at Palo Alto construction site (Video Report)

    Bobel said the owners of each property are pumping out the water from a shallow aquifer beneath their land to build a basement in their future home.

    "We haven't measured it but an estimate would be 50 gallons a minute," Bobel said. "That is a lot of water."

    At 50 gallons a minute, approximately 72,000 gallons of water is being diverted per day from each location. Plus, the pumping can last anywhere from six months to more than one year....

  • Time for Progressives to Boycott the Democratic Party   1 day 8 hours ago
    Quote RichardofJeffersonCity:

    One of things that ultrax numbers reveal is low voter turn out.. The disenfranchisement of the American population has created an atmosphere of apathy toward our political system.

    The REAL disenfranchisement of American voters is 1: a system where not all votes weigh the same and 2: a system where one can't vote their conscience and get representation for their beliefs.

    In the US the weight of one's vote... especially for the Senate and the President are completely tied to one's choice of state residence. A Senate vote by any citizen choosing to live in Wyoming weighs about 70x that of a citizen choosing to live in Cal. When it comes to a presidential vote... it's about 3.5: 1.

  • Time for Progressives to Boycott the Democratic Party   1 day 8 hours ago
    Quote Antifascist:

    Fantastic research uLTRAX! I tried but could not find the numbers. It can be very frustrating not being able to find a good source of such statistics.

    Democratic voters produce the votes. So the Tea Party Individualism argument, "non loqui sed facere," meaning "not talk, but action" is false.

    Dems don't always produce the votes. Of course gerrymandering and voter suppression are factors.

    Here are stats on House elections by party. Only 2012 show the GOP getting fewer votes yet more seats. Bolded numbers show majority control of House

    2000...........DEMS...............GOP
    HOUSE 46,582,167....46,992,383 <

    2002
    HOUSE 33,795,885....37,332,552 <

    2004
    HOUSE 52,969,786....55,958,144 <

    2006
    HOUSE 42,338,795....35,857,334 <

    2008
    HOUSE 65,237,840....52,249,491 <

    2010
    HOUSE 38,980,192....44,827,441 <

    2012
    HOUSE 59,645,531....58,228,253 <

    2014
    HOUSE 35,626,309....40,024,866 <

    Vote by Party numbers can be found in FEC reports... or places such as

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_ele...

  • Corporations to America: We Own You   1 day 8 hours ago

    Such a psychodynamically interesting screen name is ChicagoMatt -- as if daring us to tread on (or perhaps wipe our intellectual feet on) a fascistic door-mat every time we enter here. Is the mat perhaps mined (albeit now obviously with a dud)? Or does it perhaps suggest the reality of a "Chicago-Mat," an android that parrots doctrines as mandated by the Roman Catholic Church and its Archdiocese of Chicago, perhaps as it also simultaneously replicates the associated graft and corruption, as in "the Ruling Class brought out its Chicago-Mats to ensure the fixed election went as intended." Eh?

    Of course ChicagoMatt cum Chicago-Mat should also remind us there was once a NewYork-Mat too, in the person of Francis Cardinal Spellman, the Archbishop of New York, who more than any other one individual on earth was directly responsible for the 58,303 U.S. military deaths in Vietnam.

    Ain't semiotics fun?

  • Capitalism Ended Child Labor In US????   1 day 8 hours ago
    Quote LysanderSpooner:
    Quote Butler Shaffer: ...The state can now own people.. From the power to tax a person’s earnings, to the compulsory schooling of children, to military or jury duty conscription, to what you may/may not put into your body, to whether you may commit suicide... the state insists upon the same control over you that a cattle rancher has over his livestock

    These laws are nothing like the control a cattle rancher has over their livestock.

    My god man, are you insane?

    Taxes? Schooling of children? Jury Duty? You think that is like the conttrol a cattle rancher has over their livestock?

    Ideally, Liberal governments do have laws to protect people - either from corporate greed, their own ingnorance, or from natural necessity. Their tax rates - yes, I would agree -- are too high. But at least people can get an education and get a good job. They can retire in their old age. They don't have to worry that an illness would put them in debtor's prison. Drugs can be pulled off the shelfs when they shown to be beyond the pale.

    Thank god.

    Thank god no one listens to idiotic Libertarians who seek to destroy our laws, our institutions and rules of society.

    It is Libertarianism that is slavery. Libertariaism is death. It is destruction, coercion, sickness, torture. It is, here - release this on the public and I will see in you in court. It is - can't afford to get an education - well screw off! It is - can't afford to retire - just work some more.

    A society that does not have LIbertal government protections is in fact not free.

  • "Cops Gone Wild"   1 day 9 hours ago

    That Dashcam really showed nothing except Stephens getting hit by bullets...and that wasn't very clear. It did not show what had transpired when Stephens had moved between the two cars. So that Dashcam did not prove anything one way or the other.

    Quote palmbeachpost.com:
    A 20-year-old man is in critical condition after a Palm Beach County Sheriff’s deputy shot him three times, fearing the man had a weapon when he reached into his waistband and pulled out a black object.
    ----------------
    “There’s nothing in the rules of engagement that says we have to put our lives in jeopardy to wait and find out what this is and get killed,” (Sheriff) Bradshaw said while standing on the side of Haverhill Road, across from Norma Elaine Road.
    ------------------
    On Friday, the deputy as part of community policing was on patrol in the area — known for drug deals, prostitution and shootings — where Stephens was riding a bike. The deputy became suspicious of Stephens and wanted to question him about why he was in the area. Stephens then jumped off the bike and ran between two cars. The deputy told Stephens, “stop” and ordered him to show his hands. The deputy walked around to one of the cars and saw Stephens pull a black object from his waistband and turn to the deputy, Bradshaw said.

    Fearing the object was a weapon, the deputy fired three shots, all of which hit Stephens.

    Bradshaw said since Stephens didn’t comply with the deputy in showing his hands, the deputy did the right thing.
    -------------------------
    Stephens, who Bradshaw said had marijuana on him Friday, has been arrested three times in the county since 2011. He was arrested twice on charges of possession of cocaine and once on a charge of grand theft of a motor vehicle.

    In that July case, Riviera Beach Police spotted Stephens attempting to get into a Volkswagen Jetta. Stephens ran into a house after seeing the officer and later told the officer he ran because he paid a friend $25 for the car and was later told it may be stolen, according to an arrest report.

    http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/man-in-critical-condition-after-s...

    When accosted by the police, don't reach for anything except, maybe, for the sky! You reach for a cell phone or anything that the police might think is a gun and they will shoot you! Smart asses think that they are going to call someone on their cell phones...maybe he watched too many YouTube videos and thought that he could get a video of the cops to use against them ...that cell phone could get them killed.... not a good idea.

    This guy was a known perp... almost all these guys that try to get away, that end up beaten or dead, are known perps. Yes, there are a few exceptions. Mistakes can get made. But the cop is not going to make mistakes that will risk their lives... and they are not expected to. When they are dealing with scum bags, they should err on the side of preventing some scum bag from shooting them.

  • Conscious apocalypse: outliving our ruling institutions   1 day 9 hours ago

    Been reading a fair bit from this guy. I like the way he thinks.

    http://www.bernardokastrup.com/

    I think whatever we individually put 'out there' reverberates throughout the universe Michelle. The good thing is we get to choose, moment by moment. The drawback is that most folks have no idea the power of their thoughts.

  • Time for Progressives to Boycott the Democratic Party   1 day 9 hours ago

    One of things that ultrax numbers reveal is low voter turn out.. The disenfranchisement of the American population has created an atmosphere of apathy toward our political system. It is even worst in local and state elections for the most part. I believe if it were possible to get a progressive message out there is a potential to pick up the voting populace of the nation. It is an unfounded theory, but a serious popular movement in this current atmosphere might be able to stir up the traditional non-voter.

  • Capitalism Ended Child Labor In US????   1 day 9 hours ago

    So LS... do you intend to EVER present any evidence for your claim that capitalism ended child labor?

    Didn't think so.

  • Capitalism Ended Child Labor In US????   1 day 9 hours ago
    Quote LysanderSpooner:I don't think the South seceded over slavery.
    Here are excepts from the Ordinances of Secession of six of the southern states than mention slavery. Maybe like the Framers and the Constitution, the other states didn't want to sully their secession with any mention of slavery. One would have to delve into the debates surrounding these proclamations to know for sure.

    SOUTH CAROLINA http://www.civil-war.net/pages/southcarolina_declaration.asp

    The General Government, as the common agent, passed laws to carry into effect these stipulations of the States. For many years these laws were executed. But an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution. The States of Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin and Iowa, have enacted laws which either nullify the Acts of Congress or render useless any attempt to execute them. In many of these States the fugitive is discharged from service or labor claimed, and in none of them has the State Government complied with the stipulation made in the Constitution. The State of New Jersey, at an early day, passed a law in conformity with her constitutional obligation; but the current of anti-slavery feeling has led her more recently to enact laws which render inoperative the remedies provided by her own law and by the laws of Congress. In the State of New York even the right of transit for a slave has been denied by her tribunals; and the States of Ohio and Iowa have refused to surrender to justice fugitives charged with murder, and with inciting servile insurrection in the State of Virginia. Thus the constituted compact has been deliberately broken and disregarded by the non-slaveholding States, and the consequence follows that South Carolina is released from her obligation.

    MISSISSIPPI http://www.civil-war.net/pages/mississippi_declaration.asp
    Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery - the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product, which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth.

    GEORGIA http://www.civil-war.net/pages/georgia_declaration.asp
    The people of Georgia having dissolved their political connection with the Government of the United States of America, present to their confederates and the world the causes which have led to the separation. For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slaveholding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery.

    TEXAS http://www.civil-war.net/pages/texas_declaration.asp

    Texas abandoned her separate national existence and consented to become one of the Confederated Union to promote her welfare, insure domestic tranquility and secure more substantially the blessings of peace and liberty to her people. She was received into the confederacy with her own constitution, under the guarantee of the federal constitution and the compact of annexation, that she should enjoy these blessings. She was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery - the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits - a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which her people intended should exist in all future time. Her institutions and geographical position established the strongest ties between her and other slaveholding States of the confederacy. Those ties have been strengthened by association. But what has been the course of the government of the United States, and of the people and authorities of the non-slave-holding States, since our connection with them?

    ALABAMA http://www.civil-war.net/pages/ordinances_secession.asp
    Section 2. Be it further declared and ordained by the people of the State of Alabama in Convention assembled, That all powers over the Territory of said State, and over the people thereof, heretofore delegated to the Government of the United States of America, be and they are hereby withdrawn from said Government, and are hereby resumed and vested in the people of the State of Alabama. And as it is the desire and purpose of the people of Alabama to meet the slaveholding States of the South, who may approve such purpose, in order to frame a provisional as well as permanent Government upon the principles of the Constitution of the United States,

    VIRGINIA http://www.civil-war.net/pages/ordinances_secession.asp
    The people of Virginia in their ratification of the Constitution of the United States of America, adopted by them in convention on the twenty-fifth day of June, in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty-eight, having declared that the powers granted under said Constitution were derived from the people of the United States and might be resumed whensoever the same should be perverted to their injury and oppression, and the Federal Government having perverted said powers not only to the injury of the people of Virginia, but to the oppression of the Southern slave-holding States:

  • Corporations to America: We Own You   1 day 9 hours ago

    Loren Bliss, Aliceinwonderland, and Mark J. Saulys ~ After giving the real question of this thread some careful thought I think I have a couple of suggestions I'd like to toss out there. There are two things you've said, Mark, that I think really ring true; however, I'd like to expand on them a bit.

    You've mentioned that the solution to our social problems might be in establishing a true form of social democracy; because, that is what has worked best in pre industrial antiquity. I agree; and, I think I might know how to do that.

    First, our problem right now is industrialization. It has taken away from our simple agrarian based society and moved it from a agricultural Gemeinschaft model to an industrialized Gesellschaft mode. I believe that most of the ills from this change has been brought about from the easy money available from the fossil fuels industry. The first thing we need to do is to change that back. Fossil fuels MUST BE BANNED! We need to become a green society that relies more on agriculture, and the means to produce it, than on industry.Industry must become dependent upon agriculture. Since that conversion is also vital in our efforts to combat climate change, it should be a rather easy, if not inevitable, cycle of human progress to make that change happen. Eventually, at least.

    Secondly, how do we bring about a democratic socialistic utopia in a modern high tech and population dense society? Well, I think the solution to that question lies in the question. At this point in our technological advancement, we are at a stage where traditional democratic government forms are really obsolete. Soon, technology will enable every citizen to vote online electronically from the comfort of their own homes. Public access points can be set up in public venues that can even accommodate the homeless--if there still exists homeless in the future; which, I highly doubt there will be. A new form of democratic socialist government that directly involves the citizens for final approval of legislation eliminates the "importance" of elected officials. In this system, our elected officials will only serve to gather information and write and submit proposals for public scrutiny and vote. They will be held directly accountable to every voter for every action. There will be no need for voter ID laws either because thanks to technology and fingerprint, retinal, and, eventually, DNA scans, everyone will always carry a positive ID with them everywhere. Every vote will be counted and every voter will be accounted for. Power to the People never before was so potentially possible as it is today.

    It is my firm belief and hope that with those two issues factored into the equation, a sound and functional democratic socialist government of the future could be created that would make it quite impossible for corporate fascist influences to flourish like they currently do. In fact, they too, along with the fossil fuel industry, will become a thing of the past. A story parents tell their children to frighten them into behaving. Once we eliminate greed from the equation, everything else will fall into line like dominos.

  • Capitalism Ended Child Labor In US????   1 day 9 hours ago
    Quote LysanderSpooner:
    Quote ulTRAX:
    Quote Evading the topic of this thread, LysanderSpooner wrote:

    Slavery was on the way out. Free labor is more productive than slave labor.

    I'm sure free labor is preferable than having to pay a wage, or feed and house slaves. But free labor is just about impossible to find.

    Definition of free labor:

    the labor of freemen, as distinguished from that of slaves.

    I know what you meant. But you really haven't done anything to prove your claim. And why isn't it meaningless. Productivity is relative to cost. If a slave was 80% less efficient than a freeman... but cost 30-40% of what a freeman demanded... slaves were still a bargain... and if they were more productive... then it's all gravy. And it very well might be that in many cases slaves WERE more productive than bondsmen or white workers

    Unfortunately a bozo did the PDF conversion of this research article

    http://scholarship.sju.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2011&context=hist... and it doesn't lend itself to posting excerpts. But one chapter about mill work is entitled..

    A PREFERENCE FOR SLAVE LABOR

    Bottom line... there's nothing in the article to indicate slave labor was inherently less profitable.

  • "Cops Gone Wild"   1 day 9 hours ago

    Well, then let's look at an incident from beginning to end.

    Dashcam video reveals Florida cop gunned down unarmed black man and lied about it: lawyer

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  • Corporations to America: We Own You   1 day 10 hours ago

    Reply to #36: Mark, thanks for your concern. My absence was not due to illness or personal hardship.

    I've been writing letters to the editor of our local paper, which has had me very preoccupied over the past several weeks. And in the accompanying blogs, I'm slugging it out with local yahoos over this liquified natural gas (LNG) export terminal and pipeline that Veresen (a Canadian fossil fuel company), wants to plunk down in the middle of Coos County, Oregon where I live. I'm vehemently opposed to it, like lots of other folks around here. In addition to the environmental, health & safety issues this raises, I’m very upset over Veresen and their subcontractors threatening some of our neighbors with land theft (excuse me- "eminent domain".) From my perspective, what threatens them undermines us all. Coos County residents opposed to the project have put plenty of emphasis on health & safety while the issue of land theft has been largely neglected. I'm determined to fill that gap in the dialogue, because it is too important an issue to ignore.

    I’m presently submitting a series of letters to the editor of The World’s forum column, each profiling a different landowner under siege from these goddam pigs. Each letter is based on a letter to FERC by one such landowner. Since I haven't obtained permission to tell their stories, I change names and mask identities to guard their privacy. But all other details are authentic. And the threats these people face are ugly: catastrophic land erosion, pollution, the risk of pipe leaks and explosions... not to mention the loss of people’s water sources via erosion and pollution. It's the stuff nightmares are made of.

    Meanwhile the LNG huggin’ yahoos I've been debating on these blogs are bloody delusional. They keep insisting this will be the answer to all Coos County's financial troubles! Riiiiiiiight. I wouldn't be at all surprised if at least some of them were paid shills for Veresen, because they never miss a beat. Whenever a letter is published having anything to do with LNG, especially if it's against this proposed project, those guys are on it like brown on shit. Anyone opposed to the project can expect to be denigrated by them with insults, condescention and dismissive remarks. That's all they've got to offer, because they've no facts to substantiate their claims. They respond to these horror stories I’ve chronicled with this too-bad-so-sad attitude.

    I may not have big bucks or political clout, but I’ve got enough writing & debating skills to give ‘em a run for their money. I’ve made it my mission to be a perpetual thorn in their sides, shining some light through the holes in their arguments while dishing back some of the crap they dish out. I'd like to think it's helped embolden others to stand up to them as well.

    Anyway Mark, that’s what I’ve been up to. My absence from Thom’s website was never meant to be forever. But thanks for asking, and for caring enough to ask. That's very kind of you, and I don't take kindness for granted. - Aliceinplunderland

  • Time for Progressives to Boycott the Democratic Party   1 day 10 hours ago

    Fantastic research uLTRAX! I tried but could not find the numbers. It can be very frustrating not being able to find a good source of such statistics.

    Democratic voters produce the votes. So the Tea Party Individualism argument, "non loqui sed facere," meaning "not talk, but action" is false.

  • "Cops Gone Wild"   1 day 10 hours ago

    Yup! Do stupid things with the police and you're most likely gonna get beat pretty badly or you're gonna die! No matter how big you are! Or, maybe I should say, especially if you are big and scary and making threats...especially physical threats. The police have a right and a duty to contain people who are dangerous! Tasers help stop some people. Maybe they even kill some people with health problems. If you have health problems, you should think about that if you want to survive. The lesson that people should learn is that they could be next if they don't smarten up and realize that they are in a dangerous, perhaps life or death, situation and don't escalate into a violent situation that which could be deescalated when people calm down.

  • Time for Progressives to Boycott the Democratic Party   1 day 10 hours ago
    Quote Dexterous:

    You are trying to pick up a turd by the clean end.

    1. I never said manunlipated , I said phrased differently .

    2. Your three word questions that promises everything to the responder? How would you expect that would turn out?

    You said exactly, "Poll results are easily manipulated by how the question is phrased." Manipulation is the "what" and according to you "how the question is phrased" is the possible means the manipulation is achieved--but to don't say how the phrased is biased, just that it can be. The Fallacy of the Possible Proof attempts to demonstrate that a factual statement is false by establishing the possibility of its falsity. The questions could have been answered differently. None of the questions only had three words. The meaning of the policy questions were very clear in the context of the poll. And other independent private polls support these numbers.

  • Time for Progressives to Boycott the Democratic Party   1 day 10 hours ago
    Quote Antifascist:Lack of votes for the House of Representatives Democrats isn’t the issue. Democratic candidates routinely win the majority of popular votes by the millions.
    And as in 2012... it often doesn't matter. Then there's the Senate... the place democracy goes to die... From http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2014/01/does-constitution-give-gop-unf...

    here are the popular vote totals by party from 1998 thru 2012 election vs Senate control... which means one has to look at three cycles

    1998-----26,769,791----25,347,782----1,681,198
    2000-----36,788,222----36,729,792----5,797,467
    2002-----20,470,371----22,198,747----1,606,029
    ====================================
    VOTES--84,028,384----84,276,321----9,084,694
    SEATS----45 DEMS------55 GOP--------0 IND

    2000-----36,788,222----36,729,792----5,797,467
    2002-----20,470,371----22,198,747----1,606,029
    2004-----43,605,968----39,920,857----2,678,558
    ====================================
    VOTES--100,864,561---98,849,396--10,082,054
    SEATS----44 DEM------- 55 GOP------- 1 IND

    2002-----20,470,371----22,198,747----1,606,029
    2004-----43,605,968----39,920,857----2,678,558
    2006-----33,623,140----26,489,040----2,837,821
    ====================================
    VOTES--97,699,479----88,608,644----7,122,408
    SEATS---49 DEMS------ 49 GOP-------- 2 IND

    2004-----43,605,968----39,920,857----2,678,558
    2006-----33,623,140----26,489,040----2,837,821
    2008-----35,473,711----30,913,256----3,485,123
    ====================================
    VOTES--112,702,819----97,323,153----9,001,502
    SEATS---57 DEMS------- 41 GOP-------- 2 IND

    2006-----33,623,140----26,489,040----2,837,821
    2008-----35,473,711----30,913,256----3,485,123
    2010-----33,225,487----35,958,608----5,481,075
    ====================================
    VOTES--102,322,338--93,360,904---11,804,019
    SEATS---51 DEMS------ 47 GOP------ 2 IND

    2008-----35,473,711----30,913,256----3,485,123
    2010-----33,225,487----35,958,608----5,481,075
    2012-----43,930,193----39,130,984----3,930,192
    ====================================
    VOTES--112,629,391--106,002,848--12,896,390
    SEATS---53 DEMS----- 45 GOP------- 2 IND

  • Conscious apocalypse: outliving our ruling institutions   1 day 10 hours ago

    quantum entanglement is just beyond facinating, no one can explain it/understand it, and therefore, most importantly, quantify it; and I wonder how it affects our human "consciousness"............ferman (sp) sounds........ooo wee OOOoooo............

    I know, sillyness, yet I'm serious...........

    made the mistake of going back to participating in a thread other than this one and got slammo-d. does make me question quantum entanglement and it's effect on consciousness......does cruelty, as well as love, reverberate throughout the Universe?

    peace out all, best wishes to all experiencing extreme climate, AU, CA USA, Chili, tomorrow likely S.Central Plains USA...........mlk

  • Time for Progressives to Boycott the Democratic Party   1 day 10 hours ago
    Quote Dexterous:All of the issues Hartmann claims had popular support could have their results turned 180° in two seconds. Poll results are easily manipulated by how the question is phrased.
    Really... ALL the issues? In 2 seconds?

    It's true that the phrasing of questions can effect polling... which is why polls should have the same question phrased in different ways as a check... plus a truly random cross section. But both sides tend to have faux polls designed for a self selected audience with loaded questions... some like NewsMax just want to harvest email addresses...

    Cast your vote, enter your email address. Invalid emails will not be counted! After voting check your inbox to verify your vote and to get latest poll results.

    http://www.newsmax.com/surveys/HillaryClinton/Should-Hillary-Run-in-2016...

    The questions are designed to weed out those who aren't on the right.

    We will not sell, share, license, trade or rent your Personal Data or other information, other than as specified in this Privacy Policy.

    and then goes on to say they intend to share the info with whomever they want... and I bet some of this is invaluable for political campaigns and PACs.

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