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  • Would Pro Choice Arguments Be The Same If...   16 hours 23 min ago
    Quote rs allen:

    I got no way to splash the news across America and make it believiable for the robots duly reporting each morning for whatever mindless task they do to survive. You got any ideas?

    No ideas. I wish I had some. Thanks for the comment and the link.

  • Daily Topics - Monday October 20th, 2014   16 hours 26 min ago

    I'm sure that gunman was just being friendly and providing a speed hole for your car, Thom!

    Let me explain. On The Simpsons, Homer had gone to clown school to do local appearances for Krusty the Clown. While dressed up as Krusty, Homer found that people offered him free stuff, but Krusty was also in trouble with the mob. While Homer is trying to wangle a free car, a mob sniper misses him several times and hits the car. Homer notices the holes and indignantly asks what the deal is. Without missing a beat, the car dealer says, "They're speed holes. They make the car go faster." Homer is later seen using a pickax to put 'speed holes' in the car he already owns.

  • Is it imperative that we try to make history and get 100% of ALL eligible voters to vote this November 4th, 2014!?   16 hours 42 min ago

    “Since 1950 we’ve lost 90% of the fish in the ocean (and) we’ve doubled our own population. Since 1970, we’ve lost half the wildlife on the planet and again we doubled our population. Climate change is humanities biggest battle but our armed forces are the biggest carbon dioxide providers in the world, and yet we are fighting, what, ISIS?” - Neil Young

    Can we go on this way? Will we allow the very few with their corporate money and the power it wields to run this country in this direction or will we, the people rise up, regulate it’s influence and save ourselves, our children and our planet? Will we vote every day with our voice and with our actions? Will we vote this November?

    VOTE

  • Is it imperative that we try to make history and get 100% of ALL eligible voters to vote this November 4th, 2014!?   16 hours 42 min ago

    A lack of political will is why we have a Supreme Court that has brought about buying politicians and brought this country to an oligarchy! - Thom Hartmann

    http://www.thomhartmann.com

    By all means stay home if you want, but don’t kid yourself that you’re not voting. In reality, there is no such thing as not voting: you either vote by voting, or you vote by staying home and tacitly doubling the value of some Diehard’s vote.” - David Foster Wallace

    VOTE!

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/GetOutTheVoteIn2014/

    pass it on

    #GetOutTheVote

  • Would Pro Choice Arguments Be The Same If...   16 hours 48 min ago

    No money to be made in West Africa AL2. Very simple reason. No?

    However if it can be made into a crisis here...................

    Meanwhile Africa is a good place for experimentation. Reference here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_experimentation_in_Africa#Meningitis_testing_in_Kano.2C_Nigeria

    And given the last 'little' todo what with the news of the rare availiblity of a possible treatment for the disease I've no reason to believe anything has changed. So just let it spread till money can be made by someone or another.

    I got no way to splash the news across America and make it believiable for the robots duly reporting each morning for whatever mindless task they do to survive. You got any ideas?

  • "Ninth Circuit’s neutrality questioned on gay rights"   16 hours 54 min ago
    Quote mjolnir:
    Quote ulTRAX:Where you want to start this discussion is revealing and it's a desperate red herring to avoid what SHOULD be the only real question: whether the Biblical bigotry of the majority should have denied the equal right to government granted benefits of marriage in the first place. That question you want to sweep under the rug.

    Please point to anything in the OP that referenced my religious beliefs. The entire "purpose" of this thread is to discuss possible bias in the 9th circuit. The only one sweeping anything "under the rug" here is you.

    EVASION ALERT: So if you admit your biblical bias elsewhere it magically doesn't count? And we should ignore the same bigotry from the Protect Marriage crowd?

    Your "logic" here, such as it is, is if someone assassinates Hitler for his crimes against humanity, we should ignore Hitler's crimes, and focus on the murder.

    If civil rights were wrongfully denied by Biblical bigots such as yourself, then the infantile whining from you and the Protect Marriage bigots about how those rights are finally recognized, is laughable. The subtext of your argument you're trying to conceal is that you hoped some bigots on the court could be found who would rule differently to keep enforcing your bigotry on others.

    How goddamn noble.

  • We Need An Ebola Travel Ban Now   17 hours 7 min ago

    NBC news says the number is approximately 150 per day travel to the US.

  • Would Pro Choice Arguments Be The Same If...   17 hours 26 min ago
    Quote michellekovalik:

    poof............mist.............reality............

    oh, just joking! converse away!

    I thought of that, too, michellekovalik, but what the hell. Based on content it seems unlikely.

    Now pack your bags, all. If you hurry you can make it. I can’t vouch for the staging but the story gets a 10+ on my scale. Wear your boots and furs to ward off Moscow’s chill:

    Wednesday The 22nd

    The Overcoat (Shinel): Gogol's story as staged by Anton Kovalenko stars Avangard Leontyev as Bashmachkin. Chekhov Moscow Art Theater Novaya Stage. 7 p.m.

    Sorry. No popcorn.

    The best, maybe only, biographical sketch of Avangard Leontyev - People's Artist of Russia, Russia State Prize Laureate - that I’ve found is here:

    http://www.tabakov.ru/en/actors/guests/leontyev/

    His birth date isn’t given but I believe he was born in 1947. There is absolutely no mention of his views on abortion.

    Edifying news:

    The United Nations Children’s Fund says the Ebola outbreak is creating vast numbers of orphans in West Africa. At least 3,700 children are said to have lost at least one or both parents.

    In an "open letter to the world," Liberian President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf said that because of the Ebola crisis, "across West Africa, a generation of young people risks being lost to an economic catastrophe as harvests are missed, markets are shut and borders are closed."

    These quotes come from Amy Goodman’s “Democracy Now.” So far as I can determine Amy has never had either an abortion or a vasectomy. What I can’t understand, though, is why she can’t drop what she’s doing and join this discussion.

    But whatever here's more from Amy:

    Hiroshima and Nagasaki, 69 Years Later

    By Amy Goodman with Denis Moynihan

    “I hate war,” Koji Hosokawa told me as we stood next to the A-Bomb Dome in Hiroshima, Japan. The skeletal remains of the four-story building stand at the edge of the Hiroshima Peace Memorial Park. The world watches in horror this summer as military conflicts rage, leaving destruction in their wake from Libya, to Gaza, to Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Ukraine. Never far from the dead and injured, nuclear-armed missiles stand by at the alert, waiting for the horrible moment when hubris, accident or inhumanity triggers the next nuclear attack. “I hate war,” Hosokawa reiterated. “War makes everyone crazy.”

    I would amend Hosokawa to read: “Everyone crazy makes war.”

  • "Ninth Circuit’s neutrality questioned on gay rights"   17 hours 31 min ago

    In a conference of elder statesmen and staffers on how to fix congress and published in Esquire, Barney Frank convinced Lawrence O'Donnel to agree to scrap the filibuster all together. The 185 judicial vacancies that Mitch will not allow to be filled, the 20 or so amabassadors that Mitch will not allow, the Surgeon General too would be filled. The GOP will never when another Presidency. The President will be the filibuster when the crackers from the tiny red states representing 13% of the country try to push through rubbish, veto becomes filibuster. The country had two years of productivity 2009, 2010. Obama's presidency of 8 years will be judged on two years, the only time the country was governed.

    The history of the Taney redux in the SCOTUS will show the dysfuntional nature in real terms with their legislating from the bench since the elections don't suit them. The Taney 5 think it's alright that 51% of PA voted for Democrat house members and got 5 seats, 48% voted for GOP and got 13 seats for their votes. Banana republics are more discreet. The democrats had 6 seats before 2012, but census required one seat be surrendered, so take it from the team the people voted for not the team they voted against.

  • We Need An Ebola Travel Ban Now   17 hours 46 min ago

    I'm not sure why this is such a political issue, how many people actually come to the US on any given day who have been to one of the affected countries within the past 21 days? Can't be that many.

  • Robert Kenner's Merchants of Doubt   18 hours 11 min ago

    Thanks for the reference to Singer's tome about meditation.

    People who push other's buttons can do so because they are observant. It doesn't hurt to discover that one is pushing buttons early on. Meditation can help in that discovery process. Choice can come into the situation. I personally don't have any desire to manipulate, myself or anyone else. I'd much rather let others come to their own place of awareness. I find my own mind to be much more peaceful that way.

    And you too, nurture that soul fire.

  • "Ninth Circuit’s neutrality questioned on gay rights"   18 hours 11 min ago

    OK, the 9th Circuit is biased towards science and away from dogma, and I approve. The point here is that the "bias" is in accord with the facts and not the old legalistic drags against emerging justice as we have seen in other issues because it is the nature of the courts to maintain legalism in the face of justice until the latter becomes overwhelming.

    The idea that the courts have led some progressive or radically liberal lawmaking from the bench is the opposite to the reality of how they are actually corrupting our politics. It is the conservative leglislating that knows no formal boundary today. There, all sorts of metaphysical nonsense is being thrown at reality and fact. The bias of those courts supports wealth and conservativism, no progressivism.

    If the standard for bias is to be more attentive to the facts of the case than the average, you "possible bias" would have ironic truth. The point you are trying to push is false otherwise. What is being "defended" in these conservative briefs and laws is a religious dogma and not anything that makes a good case in and of itself. Equality under the law is not a 'bias,' but seeing that it applies to all is usually controversial or there would be no inequality to address.

    Would that we had a bias for inclusion and respect for others that would make prejudice hurt when we held it so we would know. Theocracy does not mix well with democracy, and that is why we need a bias against bias, not just open-minded empty heads. My point is that the facts have been served. Nothing swept under any rug here. ulTRAX is right about that being what this issue in court is about, so your plea about possible bias because of a gay judge becomes irrelevant and a tribute to pettiness.

  • We Need An Ebola Travel Ban Now   18 hours 29 min ago

    I think we should let the people doing the medical work determine what is the best procedure to follow. "Compromises" with political fears do not help make things better.

  • The Looting of Ukraine and the US Energy War   18 hours 32 min ago

    With the help of an aggressive West, Putin's KGB strong man image plays well in the Russia of the tsars and against what appears to be hypocritical moralism about human rights from the torturers and coup masters.

    Following the Beatles, we have out gulaged and out-stazi'd the old USSR, so we can be "back in the USSR" here in America. How lucky we are!

    Any authentic liberalism in the East gets tagged the same way any authentic socialist is labled a "red" here. It is disloyalty, not just dissent. Without wishing to convert Russia from Slavik Asia to be Modern Europeans at all, I do think a global democracy discussion introduces a transmutable moral metric rather than an institutional program. Broad participation in political power is good, and even in a beneficent monarchy or "good leader" like Putin and his advisors, how the people are served is the bottom line and where public opinion should operate.

    The cults of personality enforced by secret police and bottomless jails do get 90%+ totals for the winners. I want to know that people come from cultures where they really love being part of that cult. I prefer leaders who govern with the consent of the people to rulers who enforce their authority with guns and prisons. Putin is clearly riding the majority of conservatives in Russia, with a lot of help from the ugly West. But this is no "democrat" or "liberal" who loves free speech and personal conscience. He prefers obedience in "his people."

  • We Need An Ebola Travel Ban Now   18 hours 34 min ago

    How about a compromise.
    Travelers from the region give a blood sample and go on their way.

    If the test proves positive, the traveler can be taken into
    isolation later, probably before showing any symptoms.

  • We Need An Ebola Travel Ban Now   18 hours 49 min ago

    As I hear various points of view, it has become clear to me that the travel ban is a political issue that is not relevant to dealing with Ebola but may be important in dealing with an ill-informed and fearful public.

    Getting what W. Africa needs in W. Africa needs to be the focus. Securing the borders! is a loon cry in the first place.

  • "Ninth Circuit’s neutrality questioned on gay rights"   18 hours 51 min ago
    Quote ulTRAX:
    Quote mjolnir:I'm well aware of your views of religion. I ask you the same question I asked mdhess: "Putting politics and personal viewpoints aside does it not bother you that there "may" be prejudicial conduct in a cornerstone of our system that is supposed to be impartial, or does it not bother you as long as the decisions swing your way? "

    Where you want to start this discussion is revealing and it's a desperate red herring to avoid what SHOULD be the only real question: whether the Biblical bigotry of the majority should have denied the equal right to government granted benefits of marriage in the first place. That question you want to sweep under the rug.

    Please point to anything in the OP that referenced my religous beliefs. The entire "purpose" of this thread is to discuss possible bias in the 9th circuit. The only one sweeping anything "under the rug" here is you.

  • The Looting of Ukraine and the US Energy War   18 hours 52 min ago

    My pleasure, Palindrom.

    The author is a Ukrainian and I agree with almost all of what she said in this article. The only place where I disagree is when she suggests that Russia and the US are in a global fossil-fual energy war.

    Most of the BRICS are thinking of the long-term energy being nuclear fusion. Russia is on the defensive against NATO and the rest of the West, but so far, trying to avoid a thermonuclear WW3. I think that Putin is a very good leader, and his staff are all wise and sane.

  • “The Big Picture” program just keeps getting better and better!   19 hours 23 sec ago

    I like the show, but I can't agree that it is getting better and better.

    Unfortunately much of the content is repeated.
    I tend to record the show to watch later.
    I see the same captions and clips coming round again
    and use them as cues to fast forward.

    I know voter suppression,Obama care and the tax rate are
    important but there must be other things going on in the world.

  • We Need An Ebola Travel Ban Now   19 hours 6 min ago
    Quote organican:
    Quote douglaslee:

    Why a travel ban won't work

    Good article, thanks for the link.

    Really? I found the arguments made there not very compelling and responded in http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2014/10/we-need-ebola-travel-ban-now#c...

    .

  • "Ninth Circuit’s neutrality questioned on gay rights"   19 hours 15 min ago
    Quote mjolnir:I'm well aware of your views of religion. I ask you the same question I asked mdhess: "Putting politics and personal viewpoints aside does it not bother you that there "may" be prejudicial conduct in a cornerstone of our system that is supposed to be impartial, or does it not bother you as long as the decisions swing your way? "

    Where you want to start this discussion is revealing and it's a desperate red herring to avoid what SHOULD be the only real question: whether the Biblical bigotry of the majority should have denied the equal right to government granted benefits of marriage in the first place. That question you want to sweep under the rug.

  • "Ninth Circuit’s neutrality questioned on gay rights"   19 hours 48 min ago
    Quote ulTRAX:
    Quote mjolnir:

    While, as you say, the cause is "lost", the fight to maintain traditional values and obey God's word is no less noble.

    "God's" word? Hey, I have an idea... let those who subscribe to this belief follow it and not try to impose their beliefs on others. After all, when push comes to shove the legal benefits of marriage are grants/guarantees from government... not a church.

    I'm well aware of your views of religion. I ask you the same question I asked mdhess: "Putting politics and personal viewpoints aside does it not bother you that there "may" be prejudicial conduct in a cornerstone of our system that is supposed to be impartial, or does it not bother you as long as the decisions swing your way? "

    Did you read the document submitted to the court by the expert? I don't pretend to be qualified in statistical analysis but the guy makes a compelling argument for bias, at least to this layman.

  • "Ninth Circuit’s neutrality questioned on gay rights"   20 hours 12 min ago

    Mj keeps forgetting about that seperation of church and state thing. None of this should be being discussed via legislation.

  • Wanted: Ebola Czar---No Medical Experience Required   20 hours 30 min ago

    Why no surgon general? The dems passed a fillibuster rule on appointments. There are 55 dem senators in office. Who's to blame? Not the republicans.

  • "Ninth Circuit’s neutrality questioned on gay rights"   20 hours 41 min ago

    Scalia sais recently it was alright for a sitting jurist to favor religion in cases before the court. He also believse he is infallible and since he is there for life, end of discussion. These 5 are not just giving the appearance of bias, they said so out loud and are proud of it. Scalia and Taney will get parallel coverage in the hisory books.

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