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  • "Court rejects atheists’ challenge to ‘Ground Zero Cross’"   17 hours 45 min ago

    Looks like you need a new emoticon if you're going to fall back on MT 15, especially the beginning verses.  As for what Jesus was getting at when he spoke about "dishonoring parents," his remarks were both allegorical  and factual with respect to the high Jewish clergy working  in Herod the Great's Temple in Jerusalem. They were toadies of both the Antipas family and Rome, and Christ called them out on more than one occasion. It's largely presumed his attack on the Temple Tax (represented in the "den of thieves" extortionate money laundering operation the High Priests and Pharisees allowed to go on under their noses; so when Jesus took out his whippet and big stick to wage his very non non-violent protest and turned the tables, he in effect drafted his own death warrant. Do you think the Herodian/Roman toadies of the Temple were the Father?

    Remember, also...Jesus said he didn't come into the world to rewrite the Bible; he had more pressing things to attend to. For instance, getting the people who claimed to The bearers of God's Word and Truth as it existed in The Law or Scripture to even give more than mere lip service to what Scripture was telling its readers and loudest proclaimiers of their Jewish faith, traditions, etc., was difficult enough. Consider that the Bible wasn't fully compiled until St. Jerome pulled it all together in a Bethlehem cave three centuries later. (So much for some Evangelical Protestants' strident contentions that in order to get past the Pearly Gates, one MUST be a "Bible Christian." The first Christians managed to survive rigorous and bloody spurts of Roman persecutions, internal squabbling after Constantine legalized the Faith and three full centuries sans any "Revised Standard Authorized Version" to fight bloody wars over as was the case some 15 centuries after Jesus walked the earth.

    Your emoticon  really is amusing; but something tells me you're not fully sure of what you've written in this thread. Why do I get this hunch. LOL my friend, I've been there and it's a hell of a hard road ahead kickin' the goads as another and a lot more truly dedicated foe of Christ and His life's message and examples.

    The cross isn't what we should all be worked up over; but the continuing evil that's perpetrated against all of us by people who misread their respective faith's scriptures, or have had their heads rewired to do so to such calamitous ends. Just as it's easy to find some loose thread to keep pulling from the overall fabric so we can unravel it, then turn to the pile of then almost unmanageable yarn, etc., and say "See, what a mess your faith and scriptural readings have turned out for us; See!" -- it's not worth going down that path when a simple redirection towards the vastly higher pile of positive accomplishments and missions the Church (as a whole) can point to ... all the while saying, "Care to join, you're invited to join in."

     

  • Israel's Action in Gaza: 'Is This Not a War Crime?'   17 hours 49 min ago

    somae wrote:

    rs allen wrote:
    somae wrote:

    What country in the world wasn't started by one group overtaking another?

    Oh well that makes it alright then.

    No -- it doesn't make it alright. But that's the situation. Are you as indignant about every other country as well? I don't see you complaining about them. Are you ready to give back every country to the people who were there 1st? But, seeing as that's the way most humans act, you wouldn't be able to find a group that didn't take over the land that way. If you gave back the US to the "Native Americans" you would have to find the people who the Native Americans took the land from and give it back to them, and so on ad infinitum.

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    If the situation were reversed, and Hamas had the technology while Israel didn't, there would be no Israel and every Israeli citizen would be dead.

    If it weren't for Israel's over reach Hamas wouldn't exist.

    "Hamas" is what all Palestinians started off as. The PLO gained some enlightenment and gave up their goal to exterminate Israel. The Hamas mind-set was all that existed at first.

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    I think the Israelis are not backward because they don't want to execute and torture people for not being "Jews" as the "Christian" Inquisition did and the Palestinians want to do to those who aren't "Muslims".

    Nah they don't execute people per se, they're just as happy to starve them out of existance or bomb them if the excuse can be presented.

    Just admit you're a shill, a tool, perhaps even a paid hack somae.

    Actually, I've been wondering if that's where you are at. The truth doesn't seem that hard to see. But that's exactly why you're turning to hate speech. You're unable to present a reasonable response, so you turn to insult. You sound exactly like the extreme right-wing.

    Hate? Don't make me laugh, the likes of you aren't worth the energy.

    Utter disdain is what I feel for your ilk. Shills are the lowest of the low, what's your price? What small change do you sell your soul out for?

  • The Big Picture & The Thom Hartmann Program "On Air" Questions or Comments for Thom?   17 hours 55 min ago

    Please ask Bernie Sanders why he supported Senate resolution 498 and 526 in support of Israel.

    It's really pathetic.

  • Legalization of Pot.   17 hours 57 min ago

    D_NATURED wrote:

    I doubt the framers of the constitution would ever have believed that marijuana would be made illegal. It was so widely used as to be considered commonplace. Our modern prudery over marijuana is a a fabricated hysteria and a humorous side note to a "modern" culture clinging to a puritan-derived morality that does more harm than good.

    Really. Between the "war on drugs" making naturally growing and virtually harmless plants illegal to the ability to electronically remove all rights of privacy and the ability of individuals to possess highly efficient weapons of mass killing as well as massive amounts of wealth being able to so easily circumvent our democracy, our Constitution has become a mockery. Time for a Constitutional Convention!

  • World breaks temperature record for June after hottest May   18 hours 3 min ago

    If Thom offered a reward of $1000 to all members if threads with more than 3 posts stayed on topic, he'd not have to worry about ever paying out. 

  • F*** The EU - Neocons And The Neonazi Ukrainian Coup   18 hours 6 min ago

    Karolina wrote:

    This is so disgusting. I am completely repulsed by these foolish people. 

    Hi Karolina,

    And what is worse is that the Ukrainian people would never vote them into power in a fair election. They came to power in a coup, or to use another word, Putsch.

    In the recent presidential election, the leader of the Right Sector, Dmitri Yarosh, received 1% of the votes. He is now wanted by Interpol.

    It took a coup, and Victoria Nuland/Nudelman/Kagan/Cohen of the US State Department to put them in power.

    Maybe this is the function nazis have always had - the attack dogs of the big corporations. Maybe this is how Hitler came to power.

    According to Anthony Sutton in Wall Street And The Rise Of Hitler, Hitler had the financial support from GE (Gerald Swope, Owen D. Young, C.H. Minor, E. Arthur Baldwin), AIG (Edsel B. Ford, C.E. Mitchell, Walter Teagle, Paul M. Warburg), ITT-Telefunken. (Source: Wall Street And The Rise OF Hitler, by Anthony C. Sutton, Ch. 7, Who Financed Adolf Hitler?)

    All the donations went into the National Trust or Nationale Treuhand, administered by Rudolf Hess and Hjalmar Schacht. Hess knew the financial contributors to the nazi party. Maybe that is why he wasn't allowed to talk to anyone.

    And let's remember, this recklessness happened at Hillary Clinton's State Department. What did she know, and when did she know it? Of course Hillary Clinton is a member of The Fellowship/The Family, according to Jeff Sharlet.

  • In an urban setting Ebola is perpetual, Ebola will never burnout (as the professionals are finding out now).   18 hours 16 min ago

    What should a person do if they suspect themselves infected with Ebola?

    First have you been to Africa recently or have you had any direct contact (sharing of anything) with someone who has recently traveled to Africa?

    If the answer is yes, call your doctor.  He or she will advise you on what to do. The doctor may want to send an isolation team to your home to collect samples and data (based on community resources). This would allow time to decide where best to treat a person infected with Ebola. Or to screen the person as not infected with Ebola.   

     

    If you do not have a doctor or cannot wait for your doctor, do not panic (Moving slow will save more lives than moving fast). 

    Call for an ambulance, and let them know exactly, what you think you may have.  This will allow first responders to take necessary precautions before arriving at your door (most laws require emergency personnel to respond no matter what and they are trained).  If you have to wait a couple of hours for a ambulance to show up that is okay (Ebola does take days to kill a person).

    If you cannot wait for the ambulance (an ambulance can help isolate the illness) but if you cannot wait, CALL the emergency room of the hospital before you go and communicate with the emergency room staff to know you are on your way.  This will allow all emergency room staff to prepare for your arrival. If a person does not have phone or cannot get through go to the emergency room.  As the person approaches wear a sign say, “Maybe Ebola” or use the security emergency phones in the parking lot to communicate (Sometimes isolation rooms are a completely different entrance). 

     

    If you just show up no one will be prepared or expecting your arrival.  This may expose other people to Ebola and cause the virus to spread further. Yes, the Emergency Department will treat you and care for you.  But, it is about isolating the patient from other potentially ill people.  The wait times in America’s Emergency room are horrible could be several hours before seen by a doctor for the diagnosis.  Plus, if there are any language barriers could be even longer with more people exposed.

     

     

    One of the causes of this outbreak or allowing this outbreak in Western Africa to take hold is fear.  The people in Western Africa are trying to convalesce in their homes friends and family come to the home become exposed and take Ebola to new places.  Just with any infection get evaluated early, limit exposure to other people and to increase the chances for recovery for yourself and protect your community.  

  • In an urban setting Ebola is perpetual, Ebola will never burnout (as the professionals are finding out now).   18 hours 23 min ago

    Healthcare workers stand firm on I either work on Ebola patients or I work on all the other patients.  Unlike other isolation precautions Healthcare workers will not be allowed to float from patient to patient to isolated patients.  The risk for cross contamination is too high. Healthcare workers will need better relief during the care of these patients.  Probably one of the factors of healthcare workers exposure is fatigue. To prevent fatigue a healthcare worker total bedside care needs to be limited to 4 hours.  This would be a six hour shift with 2 hours for dressing and cleaning (1 hour) before and (1hour) after patient contact. 

    The media showed a private room with a door.  I really hope this is not the setup or the idea of isolation in all the hospitals in the USA.  Some real thought has to be put into how to isolate these patients in USA.  There should be a room just of the Healthcare workers to change before going into the patient room.  That could mean reorganizing and discharging entire units to accommodate for one patient.    

  • World breaks temperature record for June after hottest May   20 hours 57 min ago

    There are some Adam Curtis ones too, but I think you've seen them. The war cheerleading ones fit with a Tom Dispatch book or two as well. Lest you need a dry recharge, Mark Twain's "The Decay in the Art of Lying" is a free kindle click away. or online at http://www.openculture.com/free_ebooks

    However I think the market for echo chamber BS is too rich to pass up. PT Barnum knew how stupid Americans were, Luntz did too, though he started believing his own BS.-  http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/01/the-agony-of-frank-luntz/282766/  Schadenfreude was never so sweet.

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    Luntz's populism has turned on itself and become its opposite: fear and loathing of the masses. "I am grateful that Occupy Wall Street turned out to be a bunch of crazy, disgusting, rude, horrible people, because they were onto something," he says. "Limbaugh made fun of me when I said that Occupy Wall Street scares me. Because he didn't hear what I hear. He doesn't see what I see." The people are angry. They want more, not because we have not given them enough but because we have given them too much.  
    The authoritarian parent thinks the liberal parent spoiled his kids. Like I said, he's been drinking his own koolaid. This is 35 years of trickle down, what people have been given wasn't given at all. What they have is what's left, what hasn't been taken. I'd like to ask Frankie how much his CEO 500 friends have been given.

     

  • Taxes and redistribution of wealth   21 hours 40 min ago

    Since they own 90% of the wealth they should pay 90% of the taxes. Dr Ben, glad to see you're still around. I never blamed the recession on Reagan, it was purposely initiated by Volcker at Carter's request. Nixon and Ford knew recessions were political suicide, Carter knew it was the right thing to do. btw, working stiffs got a tax increase, not cut. Fica went up, and tipped employees' tax rate went up, too.  It's in gop dna, take from the poor, give to the rich.

    Another figure to add to poly's greatest wealth expansion in history was the global GDP doubled in 24 years  from 1949 to1973. To double in 24 years takes an annual growth rate of 3%. That was when tarifs were in place.

    One other thing was the CBO calculated with Carter's marginal rates, the budget would be in surplus by 1983. Or in gop terms a piggy bank was opened. Recoveries are not rocket science. If you have access to capital, just spend, like all republicans always do, and have always done, but will not allow Obama to do. Bridges are falling down. How many will have to die to get an infrastructure bill?

    America is #1, but it is the #1 banana republic. 

    One more thing, redistribution would infer that there was previously a distribution, wouldn't it?  Sounds like a Luntz term, it has a negative connotation. You can't redistribute something that has not been distributed in the first place.

    the-agony-of-frank-luntz/ his monster turned on him. "You made me!"- Mary Shelley (or Boris Karloff) Scroll down for Shelley Kindle

  • "The Moral Chasm Between Israel and Hamas"   22 hours 51 min ago

    Exactly my freind past is prelude unless it isn't ?

    Thats the problem to change the  present so we do not repeat the mistakes of the past .Some critical thinking is required so our present education system requires a complete overhaul ! But the same problems come back in cycles . So how do we break the cycles of humanity and its misinformed way's ?

    The only way this can be done for the long haul is to change humanity's s operating belief's .....Beliefs create Behaviours and cause them to be endlessly repeated .So the sins of the father are passed down to the sons to be repeated a vicious cycle of violence and rightousness .

    The main beliefs of humanity come from it's cultural myths each dominant culture has it's own but by on large they are .We are separate from each other and God / life and it's the fittest that survive .These fallacy's and others that are perpetuated by Organised Religion have never been seriously challenged .Remember billions of people follow organised religion !

    A good place to start is The Storm before The Calm by Neale Donald Walsch . 

    Hey by the way I,am not a guy ! I,am everyone ?

    namaste 

     

     

     

     

  • Bob McDonald   23 hours 9 min ago

    Johnny Williams got immunity, I didn't know that. "Friendship? What friendship? She said I called her Mo? No way" 

  • people that were behind ronald reagan's sending jobs over seas ?   23 hours 14 min ago

    speaking as a steel worker from 1980 too 1984 and seeing the layoffs [including mine] and tens of thousands of lifetime workers. i saw the devastation it took on families who counted on their income to support their loved ones. the attacks on unions by importing there jobs was a celebration by the right that they sent over 132.000 factory companies overseas in a 30 year period. now the right is complaining their is not enough americans paying taxes. well, if hard working americans didn't loose there jobs in the first place we wouldn't have this discussion today and unemployment would not be an issue. no other american president has tried to get american jobs back to this country and it is a shame to see a country that loves to build things reduced to just getting by paycheck to paycheck. manufacturing jobs are americas life line to middle class jobs and men & women would rather have one job building washing machines, tv's, clocks, lamps, stoves, picture frames .... ect.... than taking 2 or 3 low paying jobs to support their loved ones.      

  • "ISIS: An Instrument of the Western Military Alliance" with Michel Chossudovsky.   23 hours 51 min ago

    Wow, paranoid much?  Where do you find this kind of tripe?  You must rummage through all the back alleyways of the world wide psychotic web.

  • Bob McDonald   1 day 1 min ago

    The McDonnells are just pimping the wife out as a defense.  It is lascivious but then they are Republicans.

  • Cruz Moon   1 day 3 min ago

    I meant to close my Cruz comment with a question "What do you find in the crack of a moon?" 

  • BREAKING: In Historic Move, Obama Signs Executive Order Impeaching Himself   1 day 21 min ago

    Dexterous wrote:

    rs allen wrote:

    Fuck you.

    How do you really feel?

    Perhaps you should consult with drc2 for a better variety of stinging adjectives. Personally, I am cut to the quick.

    rs allen was wrong to say what he did; you aren't worth the wasted aggravation.  The impeachment joke is funny -- Republicans can't get a goddamned thing done -- even this.  Boehner is gonna sue instead! What a weenie

  • Is the Future of the Planet in ALEC's Secret Hands?   1 day 59 min ago

    Marc, you might be misinterpreting something from me.  I never intended to pursue that guy any further or make contact with him.  Hell no.  That discussion was going nowhere, and I was done with it.  If there’s one thing I’ve learned by now, it’s when to quit.  - Aliceinwonderland

  • Doomsday Trigger for Megadrought?   1 day 1 hour ago

    The wrong doing of the one percent can be corrected. It will take electing enough of our governmental  representatives to do so. Maybe wheh enough rednecks lives are wiped out by fires, floods, droughts, tornados, hurricanes, tidal waves, and blizzards, they will vote for the person says they will do everything they can to address climate change instead of the person who says they are "pro-gun" or "anti-abortion".

  • "ISIS: An Instrument of the Western Military Alliance" with Michel Chossudovsky.   1 day 1 hour ago

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    Since 1945, by deed and by example, the US has overthrown 50 governments, including democracies, crushed some 30 liberation movements and supported tyrannies from Egypt to Guatemala. Bombing and war is as American as apple pie. Obama, having stacked his government with warmongers, Wall Street cronies and polluters from the Bush and Clinton eras, the 45th president is merely upholding tradition…

    Some of the points are out of date, this was 2010, pre-tea party take over. However, with a 3 month window of actionable possibilities, more might have been possible.

    Joe Biden proposed beaking up Iraq. I think he was right, and I hope the Kurds get a homeland, though Turkey hopes not. Turkey did acknowledge genocide (Armenians?), so maybe they will come around. Afghanistan should always be 'do not enter'. Iran ought to be allied with. Colombia actually has shown improvements. Most of South America has dumped the old Washington Consensus. China will not ever allow IMF hit men near them again. Africa now has Ebola to counter expansion. If Turkey and Qatar can get Gaza's borders open [they still have 5 high value Taliban as a hole card] and Iran/Russia/Syrian chemicals are held over Israel's head, things might calm down.  

  • Rich rats hijacked our democracy   1 day 1 hour ago

    Agreed.

  • Israel's Action in Gaza: 'Is This Not a War Crime?'   1 day 1 hour ago

    D_NATURED wrote:
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    "We live happily indeed, not hating those who hate us. Among a people who hate us, we live free from hatred." -- Dhammapada, chapter 15

    Don't flatter yourself to think you're hated for being wrong. Don't distort reality to think that the Israelis are victims. If they live free from hatred, then why all the killing? Love?

    I don't identify myself with the Israelis and I wasn't including them as the people who live free of hate. I was speaking of myself since I was responding to the hatred that was directed towards me in that response. I also wouldn't include "liberals" in the group that is free of hate as you and several others who agree with you have demonstrated (if you are actually liberals).

     

  • Israel's Action in Gaza: 'Is This Not a War Crime?'   1 day 1 hour ago

    rs allen wrote:
    somae wrote:

    What country in the world wasn't started by one group overtaking another?

    Oh well that makes it alright then.

    No -- it doesn't make it alright. But that's the situation. Are you as indignant about every other country as well? I don't see you complaining about them. Are you ready to give back every country to the people who were there 1st? But, seeing as that's the way most humans act, you wouldn't be able to find a group that didn't take over the land that way. If you gave back the US to the "Native Americans" you would have to find the people who the Native Americans took the land from and give it back to them, and so on ad infinitum.

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    If the situation were reversed, and Hamas had the technology while Israel didn't, there would be no Israel and every Israeli citizen would be dead.

    If it weren't for Israel's over reach Hamas wouldn't exist.

    "Hamas" is what all Palestinians started off as. The PLO gained some enlightenment and gave up their goal to exterminate Israel. The Hamas mind-set was all that existed at first.

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    I think the Israelis are not backward because they don't want to execute and torture people for not being "Jews" as the "Christian" Inquisition did and the Palestinians want to do to those who aren't "Muslims".

    Nah they don't execute people per se, they're just as happy to starve them out of existance or bomb them if the excuse can be presented.

    Just admit you're a shill, a tool, perhaps even a paid hack somae.

    Actually, I've been wondering if that's where you are at. The truth doesn't seem that hard to see. But that's exactly why you're turning to hate speech. You're unable to present a reasonable response, so you turn to insult. You sound exactly like the extreme right-wing.

  • Is the Future of the Planet in ALEC's Secret Hands?   1 day 2 hours ago

    Sweet Dreams, Obi Wan!

  • Is the Future of the Planet in ALEC's Secret Hands?   1 day 2 hours ago

    Well, it's 10:30 a.m. so I guess, since I've been up all night, I had better get some sleep.