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  • Ocean Apocalypse   1 day 3 hours ago

    I don't know that I would've got the film in 1990. So much of the premise I came to know in the years between then and now, plus events in my life occuring to alter my concerns and understanding. I knew all of Sonja's dissertation as she was sharing it, but only because I've explored pieces that linked to it, as systems theory states.

    I wonder how Liv Ulman prepared for that role? I think she knew the subject well, like few other actresses did at the time, coming out of a decade of Reagan and me first or me only. I looked at the HDI human development index for the US recently, and US's score has been declining since 1980.

  • Americas Gun Fetish   1 day 3 hours ago

    Pulling that old “utopia” card now, Jason? Yeah that’s what you libertarian ditto heads do when you run out of coherant rebuttals; you resort to snide condescension. You can dish it out but you sure can’t take it. Just one sorry case of arrested development.

    So driving isn’t a constitutionally sanctioned right! Neither is walking, bicycling or swimming. So?

    Guys like you read a helluva lot more into that Second Amendment than is actually there. Wanna see it word-for-word, Mister Know-It-All? Goes like this: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” So where does the word "individual" appear in that statement? It’s talking about a MILITIA, doofus!

    Your assertions are false, your arguments no more than empty rhetoric based on fantasy. All it took was a quick Google search to debunk your made-up “facts”. Ready for some REAL facts, Jason? According to an article in the July 2013 issue of USA Today, firearm deaths by then had exceeded traffic fatalities in Arizona, Colorado, DC, Michigan, Nevada and Oregon. In Ohio and Pennsylvania those statistics were about equal. Over the previous ten years, throughout the country, traffic fatalities had been going down in numbers while gun deaths had been increasing. In that same article it was predicted that by 2015, firearm-related deaths would actually exceed traffic fatalities.

    You guys are so goddam full of it. Contrast that reality with Ted Nugent’s ridiculous claim that traffic fatalities are triple the statistics on firearm deaths… Yeah right. More flatulant fantasy from the mouths of fascist clowns, in the habit of pulling “facts” out of their behinds.

    So how do you justify something designed specifically to kill (unlike a motor vehicle) not being licensed, registered and insured? Please humor me with more of your “facts”. And where have I claimed it to be a cure-all? Quotes, please.

    “Gun culture”? Gimmie a break. More macho blowhard rhetoric. Ditto your presumptuous claim that we “fear” it. Hey, don’t flatter yourselves. It ain’t all that mystifying, and you ain’t the awe-inspiring bad-asses you yahoos like to think you are. So why don’t you just kiss my royal peacenik hippie liberal ass. - Aliceinwonderland

  • Wind power is cheaper than coal, 70pp   1 day 3 hours ago

    That's interesting. Price competitiveness is the most obvious barrier to renewable energy installations. In many cases, barriers to expanding renewable energy are regulatory and therefore within state control. Large–scale renewable energy technologies are subject to all the necessary environmental permits of major industrial facilities. Renewable energy generation using new technologies can face permitting hurdles until permitting officials are familiar with the environmental effects of the generation processes.

  • Full Show 1/29/2015: The Real U.S. Deficit   1 day 4 hours ago

    The motto for Thom's conservative guests, "If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance baffle 'em with bullshit.".

  • American Sniper film (2014)   1 day 4 hours ago
    Quote ulTRAX:
    Quote ulTRAX:War, especially needless war, destroys any sense of right or wrong and transforms morality into "us" vs "them". Once that moral transition is accomplished then any bravery that destroys "them" or protects "us" is deemed heroic no matter how pointless the sacrifice or slaughter.

    I just watched American Sniper... and I stand by the above. It's so unfortunate that so many... Americans and Iraqis had to needlessly die, be maimed, or live tortured lives so Bush and Cheney could have their fucking illegal war.

    Lets make that a three way. Very well said, ulTRAX and Aliceinwonderland. I agree!

  • Abuse of wildlife....let's stop this!   1 day 5 hours ago

    I was merely clarifying what I meant, ’tis all. You seemed to have read more into my initial post than was actually there. Just a momentary annoyance. But don’t worry, you’re not on my shit list. - AIW

  • Paris massacre   1 day 5 hours ago

    I posted on the political correctness thread a cultural interactive site. Some cultures ARE superior to others, for me they are, for my family they are. Some cultures are abusive and some families or parents or spouses are abusive. Some police forces are abusive, and some cultural norms are sick and demented. The ICC and UN sets standards, the latter with no enforcement mechanism, the former with enforcement but a need for more members to be more effective (Uncle Sam I'm lookin' at you, you pompous self righteous asshole that holds the 'no one tells us what to do' posture).

    I found support for my own view of cultural grading by viewing all the available data on developmental index, healthcare index, business competitive index, corruption impression index, family focus index (maternity leave, paternity leave, preschool, education parity, prenatal care, post natal care, children dental health including orthodonture care, extensive drivers education-not free- and 18 yo age limit). Gender equality index* and more. Some cultures excell in those measures, those are important to me and the countries that are home to those cultures. That last one is even more important after having 2 girls. I was onboard to begin with, but doing everything possible meant becoming more aware of the issue, and where it is dealt with properly.

    Measuring cultures and criticizing them is not dictating, just informing. Silence in the face of abuse and atrocities is akin to approval. Societies have a duty to speak for those without a voice. Showing the world what kind of people our business partners are also informs the world what kind of country and culture we are.

    *Cuba scored higher than the US. The US beat Mozambique.

  • Americas Gun Fetish   1 day 5 hours ago

    AIW: First of all, driving a car or horse and buggy is not a constitutional right. Second, it's funny how something that is designed to not kill people and is registered, licensed and insured like driving, kills more people than something that is designed to kill but is not registered , licensed or insured....explain that. Obviously registration, license and insurance is not the one all cure all. It is just a way to control. Now answer my questions from comment 25.

    Sounds like you guys are more against the gun culture than anything else. It's something you don't understand so therefore you fear it. I think you guys are ok with your rights being taken as long as gay people or blacks don't get discriminated against.Rebulicans believe man is evil and needs god and the church to guide him and democrats think man is evil and needs government to control them. You both are control freaks... at least the republicans put their faith in something supernatural instead of a bunch of known liars. I can't believe in either.You guys believe that government can provide us with a Utopia... all we have to do is get rid of these pesky individual rights. Individual gun ownership presents an X factor to your Utopia.

  • Evidence Grows Showing Wall Street as a Negative Economic Force   1 day 6 hours ago

    Hi, Anti...I first read these quotes on one of your threads a day or two ago, and I just loved them. They are brilliant!

    I enjoyed them here today as well! Thanks for the post! :)

  • Radical Left Wins in Greece, Leaving the Koch Brothers in a Cold Sweat   1 day 6 hours ago
    Quote LPAC:

    Will the Principles of the 1953 London Debt Conference be Applied?

    The new Greek government of Alexis Tsipras came into power committed to rejecting the murderous austerity conditions of the Troika, and to pursuing an approach explicitly identified with the 60% write-down of German debt in 1953, the so-called London Debt Conference. Whether it will pursue this aim—not to mention, achieve it—has come to the top of the agenda, not just for Greece, but for bankrupt Europe as a whole.

    What is clear is that the Greek debt is fraudulent and unpayable—and that no amount of financial warfare against the country, such as was applied Jan. 28, will change that. Financial warfare is more likely to bring on a financial explosion.

    In a major article in the Daily Telegraph yesterday, international business editor Ambrose Evans-Pritchard takes up this issue in dramatic terms. "Investors have woken up to Greece's nuclear risk,'' reads the headline. Pritchard then proceeds to quote the radical rejection of the debt burden by the incoming government—the Finance Minister calling the austerity policy "fiscal waterboarding,'' and the deputy Finance Minister authoring a book called "The Rape of Greece''—and to agree! The EU-IMF-ECB Troika forced the debt and "scorched earth austerity'' on Greece, he writes—and the debt can't be paid. Their demand for a "European Conference'' for debt restructuring of all the southern European countries is "right.''

    Greek Finance Minister Yanis Varoufakis showed a determined fighting spirit in an interview with El Mundo, one of Spain's leading newspapers, on Jan. 21. What is happening in Greece is savage, he said,

    "a bestial humanitarian crisis. And the next ones will be you.''

    El Mundo asked: Do you really believe that Spain is going to end up like Greece?

    "Absolutely. This crisis is exactly the same in Spain, in Greece, in Ireland... It is the result of the bad design of the Eurozone. Greece collapsed first, but if it hadn't been us, it would have been Spain or Ireland, and the domino effect would have been the same.''...

    "But in Greece we are going to have a government which says 'enough'. Not for us, but for Europe. Because the only ones benefiting from all this which is occurring are the Greek neo-Nazis and the National Front of Le Pen. We are Europe's last opportunity.''

    On the whole ECB game: the ECB knows we don't have the money to pay for their mistakes, so they are forcing us to take loans from the Germans, the Spaniards, and from the ECB itself, to give it to the ECB.

    "And if at that time I am Economics Minister, I will tell them that they can assassinate me if they wish, they can kill my children, but I will not do that.''

    Whether this attitude will continue, may well depend upon the amount of support the Greeks get. Most crucial is support from the United States.

    In that regard, it is interesting to note that Thursday's column by Washington Post regular Harold Meyerson, is devoted to supporting the 1953 London debt conference. Germans should remember that part of their history, he argues, in relation to Europe.

    Indeed, Americans should remember their history of Hamiltonian bankruptcy reorganization as well—before bankrupt Wall Street blows up the world.

    For EIR's proposal on how the 1953 London debt conference precedent should be applied today, see "A Greek Proposal: Convene a European Debt Conference for 2015," by Dean Andromidas and Paul Gallagher, in EIR's January 23 edition.

  • Political Correctness   1 day 6 hours ago

    Many, if not most, people are afraid of freedom. They abhor authoritarianism and dictatorship - if it contradicts their own values - but are all in favor of it if it upholds their values. They are against tyranny only if it's someone else's, they're fine with it if it's their tyranny.

    PC can become something very much in the Leninist tradition of the Left of benevolent dictatorship. I'm sorry that so many have so little faith in the people as to believe that they could never be trusted without Big Brother policing their public and even private conversations. Democracy depends on faith. We are not the Russian, feudal peasantry.

    You can't make good people by force, you can only force certain behaviors and if you want society and culture to grow and evolve in a meaningful sense it's a major cop out to implement passive agressive authoritarian structures. Sensitivity to and consideration for people's variation and relative powerlessness cannot be reduced to the lowest common denominator of a uniformed speech code.

    There is a reason for etiquette that considers people in the above mentioned ways but it can only require voluntary cooperation and social opprobrium must be the only sanction for not keeping with it. There is also reason for some basic, more formal rules and laws against harrassment, and that is the extent to which I would support PC. Any more than that would be becoming the Thought Police, however well intentioned that may be.

    Truth - to power or otherwise - must be the first priority and our first loyalty. That means we acknowledge and change when we are wrong and not just cling to and hide behind the orthodoxy of our ideological subculture - which is what a conservative does. We must be able to accept challenge to us and not just challenge others. Otherwise we're not worth anything - and not worth any more than those we oppose and challenge (for then who are we to challenge anyone?).

    We can't withdraw from the broader world into our ideological world. We must engage the broader world to change it. To do the former would be to become an irrelevant cult.

    We must speak and reach out to those who don't already agree with us and accept their challenge to our thinking. We must be honest with them and if they are "correct" and not we we must acknowledge that and change. Our thinking is not worth anything if it can't withstand challenge.

    The noted anarchist thinker, Pierre Proudhon, coined the phrase, "no gods, no masters" meaning, there is to be no papacy defining "correctness". I'd like to apply John Lennon's phraseology to that thought, "Imagine no gods or masters, I wonder if you can.".

    I would hate to agree with David Horowitz about anything, especially when he says, "Leftists are totalitarians."


    {drc2, the heading on this post says it's in reply to yours - and initially it was - but it has so changed that it's not anymore. The original thought was discarded early on in the writing.}


  • Political Correctness   1 day 6 hours ago

    "Culture is the collective programming of the mind distinguishing the members of one group or category of people from others” is an interactive cultural evaluation. You can compare 3 at a time and choose any as your baseline. This example is US. You can enter the countries deemed leftist, or those countries scoring higher on the happiness scale, or higher on transparency scale and lower on corruption index. You can put the despotic tyrannies, or dictatorships that the US aligns with. Try Canada if you like, where they have as many guns as US but don't feel a need or desire to shoot strangers knocking on their doors in need of assistance.

    One of the measurements:


    One challenge that confronts humanity, now and in the past, is the degree to which little children are socialised. Without socialisation we do not become “human”. This dimension is defined as the extent to which people try to control their desires and impulses, based on the way they were raised. A tendency toward a relatively weak control over their impulses is called “indulgence”, whereas a relatively strong control over their urges is called “restraint”. Cultures can be described as indulgent or restrained.

    The United States scores as an indulgent (68) society on the sixth dimension. This, in combination with a normative score, is reflected by the following contradictory attitudes and behaviour:

    • Work hard and play hard.
    • The States has waged a war against drugs and is still very busy in doing so, yet drug addiction in the States is higher than in many other wealthy countries.
    • It is a prudish society yet even some well-known televangelists appear to be immoral
    Do as I say, not as I do? Or don't believe a word I say? Indulgence is less profitable, suppressing it earns billions, much of it tax free. I think the US claims indulgence but only within their narrow range of freedom, which is not indulgent, and not really freedom.
  • Political Correctness   1 day 6 hours ago
    Quote Aliceinwonderland:

    How do you enforce laws against private activity that goes on behind closed doors?!

    If somebody turns you in they can get a warrant and bust the door down.

  • Walmart manager threatens to lynch African American worker in Richmond, CA.   1 day 6 hours ago

    I wonder if 2000 people signing a petition would be as effective as 2000 people calling any and all telephone lines into that store and explaining to whoever picks up the phone the benefits of joining a union?

    Just a word of advice though. Whoever would be answering the phone would be an exploited, underpaid human person who is hungry and desperate enough for a job to work for less than subsistence wages in barely tolerable working conditions. They deserve our sympathy and our compassion. They do not deserve to be harassed. They have no power to change anything unless they unite and unionize. Also, ... Making abusive, threatening, or obscene phone calls could well be a criminal act.

    But think about this: Imagine thousands of people tying up phone lines with non business related phone calls. It could very well hurt the store's bottom line and cause something to change. It might just convince the Walmart directors that the best public relations policy is to treat their workers with respect and to take pride in being America's largest retail employer of citizens working for respectable wages and benefits.

    Why picket or petition on the outside ? .... When you can speak to someone and perhaps change a mind and make a friend, ... on the inside.

  • Abuse of wildlife....let's stop this!   1 day 6 hours ago
    Quote Aliceinwonderland:

    Just another of a multitude of symptoms revealing a culture that is spiritually bankrupt. In light of that, I find Americans' religious obsessions gag inducing.

    Calm down. I didn't put words in your mouth above is a quote of what you said. I'm not the enemy. Chill

  • WVa ditches American History to teach it its way.   1 day 6 hours ago

    You are being unfair. Like each of the other 49 states, West Virginia has a diverse population made up of all types of people. To be sure, there are a lot of religious fanatics there ... and a lot of redneck wing-nuts. Yes, there are things about "West by God Virginia" that make my blood boil... such as bill boards lining the highways that say ignorant things like "Clean Coal" or "Obama Jobless Zone" ... or then Democratic governor, now senator Joe Manchin who traveled to Afghanistan and wrote "From West Virginia With Love" on a live bomb, armed to kill. And then, there is FOX News everywhere.

    But tell me any state in the union that is free from that plague that is sweeping our nation. I haven't traveled far from northern California lately, but we have our share of Wing nuts in this liberal, anything goes state. Mark Meckler of Grass Valley , CA founded the Tea Party Patriots and organized the first cross country march of the Tea Party originating here in Sacramento, ending in Washington, DC. Darrell Issa keeps getting re-elected to congress from southern California even though he was born in Ohio. And driving though the San Joaquin Valley, the sides of the highway are plastered with signs that say "Congress Caused Drought". ( Yea, sure, ... we have had a Republican congress for a month now; January is historically the wettest month of the year here and it hasn't rained enough to keep the dust down all month. Plus, there is no rain in sight. Thank you Congress ! )

    The point I am making is there is a mixture of all kinds of people everywhere. Singling out an entire state for the actions of a few elected officials is unfair. One of my best lifelong friends is a very progressive minded, former public official in West Virginia. As for me, I received the first 13 years of my formal education from public schools in West Virginia and from a state college there. During that time, I think I even learned to write somewhat coherent sentences as well as to spell. Even living in Texas, (which I also did for twenty years) couldn't take that away from me.

    Of course, there a great many things the coal and chemical industries are doing in that part of the country that disturb me deeply, so I doubt I could ever move back there and keep my peace of mind. But I could never make any generalized statement, or make any sweeping assumption about all the human people who live there, other than: if only about 30 percent of eligible voters vote in any given election, it only takes a little more than 15 percent of the eligible population to be idiots, and to elect idiots to run their government.

  • Obama’s Admin, and Congress cut Employment Benefits, Food Stamps, $1 Billion dollars instantly appears for Ukrainian Fascists.   1 day 7 hours ago

    I want to give an example of market analysts and economists making the mistake of identifying QE as a Keynesian concept used to stimulate economies in recession. Alasdair Macleod is an expert on gold and often comments on QE. In his article below Macleod says that proposed QE by European Central Bank is “Keynesian”. Many other analysts market advisers and managers call QE “Keynesian” like Max Keiser, Peter Schiff, Michael Pento, and Mike Mahoney call QE Keynesian. Most of these analysts identify themselves as followers of the Austrian School of Economics.

    More euro-tragedy Alasdair Macleod – 30 January 2015

    …But even if the EU had been overflowing with funds, it might not have mattered, since the new “neoliberal” spirit of capitalism now animated its headquarters in Brussels where the order of the day had become: cut government, unleash the market.

    …Despite the uncertainties ahead of the Greek general election, the European Central Bank (ECB) went ahead and announced quantitative easing (QE) of €60bn per month from March to at least September 2016.

    What makes this interesting is the mounting evidence that QE does not bring about economic recovery….

    The Keynesians at the ECB are unclear in their thinking. They are unable to answer Caruana’s points, dismissing non-Keynesian economic theory as “religion”, and they sweep aside the empirical evidence of Keynesian policy failures. Instead they are panicking at the spectre of too little price inflation, the continuing fall in Eurozone bank lending and now falling commodity prices. To them, it is a situation that can only be resolved by monetary stimulation of aggregate demand applied through increased government deficit spending.

    By the use of the term “Keynesian” the Austrians really mean non-Austrian economics. QE is a monetarist policy more correctly identified with the Milton Friedman School of economic monetarism. The whole point of the EU is that it takes the remedy of fiscal stimulus off the table for any member nation of the EU to increase aggregate demand and grow out of a declining GDP. EU member countries do not control there own currency, and are not allowed to increase their national debt by more than 3% of GDP. This means the only options for a EU country in recession is to cut domestic spending, privatize public assets, shrink government, and deregulate business. EU countries in recession during 1989 were not allowed any Keynesian fiscal stimulus, but only the Neoliberal shock therapy of austerity. The EU is designed this way on purpose.

    The fall of Europe: Why the European Union is teetering on the brink

    Growth is anemic at best and socio-economic inequality is on the rise. How did the European project go so wrong?

    John Feffer,

    What those countries experienced after 1989 — one course of “shock therapy” after another — became the medicine of choice for all EU members at risk of default following the financial crisis of 2007 and then the sovereign debt crisis of 2009. Forget deficit spending to enable countries to grow their way out of economic crisis. Forget debt renegotiation. The unemployment rate in Greece and Spain now hovers around 25%, with youth unemployment over 50%, and all the EU members subjected to heavy doses of austerity have witnessed a steep rise in the number of people living below the poverty line. The recent European Central Bank announcement of “quantitative easing” — a monetary sleight-of-hand to pump money into the Eurozone — is too little, too late.

    The Marshall Society, named after the Cambridge economics professor Alfred Marshall, was a group made up of Keynesians with a smaller informal group who called themselves the “Cambridge Circus.” One of the most important members of the Circus was economist Richard Kahn. Kahn helped Keynes understand that inflation accompanied any increase of aggregate demand irrespective of its cause so there was nothing particularly unique with an artificial increase in aggregate consumer demand created by government spending. Keynes knew about the hazards of excessive monetary printing from his examination of the collapsing currencies after WWI, which was caused by governments breaking away from the gold standard and printing money to pay for war. Keynes saw a close connection between debased currencies and revolutions. Also, Keynes was not unaware of the ineffectiveness of only using monetary policy to increase aggregate demand and employment. In a letter to FDR, Keynes warned that increasing money supply was “like trying to get fat by buying a larger belt. In the United States today your belt is plenty big enough for your belly.”

    QE is not a Keynesian policy for stimulus. During the 1930’s world depression Keynes viewed the policies of manipulating the interest rate as an ineffective tool. However, Conservatives and their economic guru, Milton Friedman later sold monetary policy as less intrusive than Keynesian fiscal policy. John K. Galbraith describes the rise of monetary policy during the 1970’s as unfortunate. He writes, “Money: Whence It Came, Where It Went” the following early history of monetarism.

    The final flaw was this revival, during these years, of faith in monetary policy. In light of the history of this instrument it was as surprising as it was damaging…
    Nevertheless, offstage faith in monetary policy was growing. Partly this was the result of the fading memory of earlier failures. Partly it was the normal human hope that salvation might somehow be found in magic, sorcery or witchcraft as these are revealed to experts. Partly it reflected the unsinkable prestige of central bankers in general and the Federal Reserve System in particular, something to which readers of this history will no longer react with surprise. In the small world of economics the failures of monetary policy, though fully conceded, continued to be a reflection not of fundamental fault but of interesting aberration. The text-books and teaching still told in refined detail of how movement in the rediscount rate and the purchase and sale of bonds, notes and bills could increase or decrease the supply of money, thus encourage or restrain the economy. Discussion of movements in the money supply became especially fashionable, although subject somewhat inconsistently to growing doubts…as to what should be included in the monetary aggregates. And best of all was the freedom of monetary policy from interference from any of the inconveniences of public process. Monetary policy “…enjoys a degree of flexibility which fiscal policy does not enjoy: The decisions of the Board of Governors are not subject to the time-consuming procedures which characterized congressional action or to the time lapse which may occur between the enacting and the applying of fiscal policy.” Footnote 13 (Campbell R. McConnell, Economics, 4th ed. (New York:McGraw-Hill Book Co., 1969, p. 332.)

    But much of the revival was owing to the effective evangelism of the most diligent student of monetary policy and history during these years, Professor Milton Friedman. As a devout and principled conservative, Professor Friedman saw monetary policy as the key to the conservative faith. It required no direct intervention by the state in the market. It elided the direct management of expenditures and taxation, not to mention the large budget, which was implicit in the forgiving the errors of the Federal Reserve or minimize role of government—for returning to the wonderfully simpler world of the past. Professor Friedman did not forgive the errors of the Federal Reserve or minimize their importance. On the contrary, he emphasized them, and thus he took no responsibility for past misfortune or non-fortune…Professor Friedman’s case was not casually advanced; it was supported by massive evidence which, as necessary, was arranged to serve the author’s purpose. (Substantial changes in the velocity of money use had especially to be explained away. There was also the serious and unresolved problem just mentioned of what was to be counted as money.) In the years to come, Professor Friedman’s breathtakingly simple solution would not, in fact, be tried. But it would powerfully support the hope that all problems could be solved by the magic of monetary management. Alas. (Money: Whence It Came, Where It Went, by John Kenneth Galbraith, 1975, Bantam Press, p. 338-342.)

    With the election of Reagan in the 1980s Freidman’s simple solution was tried resulting in great pain for the middle-class and extreme income inequality.

    With this early history of monetary magic in mind, read the article below--written some 38 years after Galbraith’s criticism--about how monetarism has failed to stimulate aggregate demand directing the income flow to the 1% elite. Also note how this conservative monetarist policy of QE was enacted without the inconvenience of democratic processes—this is called euphemistically “flexibility".

    The Regressive Politics of Quantitative Easing

  • Today The Chicago Tribune has an Op-Ed on Obama....   1 day 7 hours ago

    The Chicago Tribune is much more than "on the conservative side" - they are a full-fledged Right-Wing Rag. We stopped getting the paper over twenty years ago for that very reason. They were so far right I was infuriated simply by the sight of the paper in my house - even before I opened it. When Mike Royko died and they replaced this amazing man's column with a hard-right populist wanna-be BS artist, right-wing water-carrier named Kass - it ended their pretense to be every man's paper. The Chicago Tribune is Crap.

  • The Ultra-Partisanship of the GOP, The Most Destructive Force In the Modern World, bar none   1 day 7 hours ago

    loganonenation, I agree with about 99% of the points cited in your introductory post. But Clinton, a Democrat, danced to the Republican tune. He did it with NAFTA, with so-called “welfare reform” and with the gutting the Federal Communications Commission, to name but three examples. Clinton helped unravel the fabric of our democracy with these corrosive policies.

    Don’t get me wrong! I hate the Repubs and everything they stand for, as much as Thom and you do! But thsee do-called Democrats have not been innocent bystanders in all this. They’ve thrown us under the proverbial bus more times than I can count. And look at Obama’s efforts to fast-track the TPP! If he succeeds, we are really fucked. I don’t see any Republicans holding a gun to his head either.

    The GOP are dangerous because of their psychopathic nature. They’re all about winning. That’s all they care about, no matter the cost or who gets sacrificed. That’s the classic psychopathic meme. But way too many Democrats have been complicit, sucked into their game of winner-take-all-and-screw-you. And by the way, you can add the GOP’s race baiting and war on women to your list of their offenses against the human race.

    I’ll not go so far as to say those two parties are identical. But I’m sick of the Democrats. Whenever I hear Thom explain why he thinks a third party isn’t an option in this system, I feel trapped. Hillary Clinton’s candidacy for the next presidential election is nothing to rejoice about from this perspective. - AIW

  • How to practically, and morally, implement Libertarianism into THIS society   1 day 8 hours ago

    I like Thom’s definition of libertarians: just Republicans in different clothing who like to get high and get laid.

    Anyway I’m finding this dialogue highly amusing. We’ve got this foaming-at-the-mouth libertarian guy accusing us of attacking him and his ilk with ad homenims while at the same time, calling us hypocrites, fakes and frauds. Hey let’s hear it for diplomacy! Ha Ha.

    What bothers me about libertarians is that so much of what they accuse government of doing is, in actually, what corporations are doing. They refuse to so much as acknowledge the culpability of corporate fascism or the fact that corporations have taken over our government. They seem oblivious to oligarchy. And that’s what alienates me about libertarianism.

    I don’t know what you expect to accomplish with a thread like this Lysander. You’d have to be delusional to expect something like this to “win hearts and minds”. I suspect that all you really intended to do was have yourself a nice big dump. Feel better now?

    I could swear, men have their own version of PMS. - AIW

  • The Middle Class Needs More Than Talking Points   1 day 8 hours ago

    I liked Reich's blog, and his 4 concluding recommendations:

    1. Limit size of biggest Wall St. banks.

    2. Resurrect Glass-Steagall.

    3. Define insider trading as "using information any reasonable person would know is unavailable to most investors.

    4. Close revolving door between the Street & the US Treasury

    Question: Must Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren be elected, alongside a Senate and a House with Democratic majorities, before this can be accomplished?

  • The Middle Class Needs More Than Talking Points   1 day 9 hours ago
    Quote AIW:

    Mark, could you translate "IOW" for me? Sorry, I only speak English; I don't speak acronym language.

    IOW means "in other words".

  • Americas Gun Fetish   1 day 9 hours ago

    guns don't kill people; gun nuts do. they're a bunch of spoiled children who want to be john wayne, who was an asshole himself, as is eastwood. getting off their macho fantasies at the expense of public safety and security, claiming the right to brandish in the name of "freedom," a freedom that generally limits the freedom of those nearby. the gun guys i've known have all been eager to "blow some asshole away" or a like remark, and i bet few of them have good sex lives.

  • Walmart manager threatens to lynch African American worker in Richmond, CA.   1 day 9 hours ago

    if we had accountability in this country, this guy would be fired. and the cop who stole pix from women drivers' phones would be fired. and sean payton would be banned for life from the nfl. and tom delay and jack abramoff would still be in prison, with jeffery skilling. and rupert murdoch would long ago have been deported as an troublemaking alien.

    wake me when those things happen....

  • Political Correctness   1 day 9 hours ago

    How do you enforce laws against private activity that goes on behind closed doors?!

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    The Middle Class Needs More Than Talking Points

    Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have been talking a lot about the middle class. But, that talk is cheap as long as their in bed with Wall Street.