America Concentration Camps & Voter Suppression - What Will it Take for Trump Supporters To See the Light?

Thom plus logo El Salvador and Honduras right now have the highest civilian homicide rates in the world. In the entire world. Even higher than countries like South Sudan and the Democratic Republic of Congo, which are experiencing civil wars.

There has also been a five-year climate-change-caused drought in the region, which has wiped out millions of family farms and devastated the largely agriculture-based economy of Central American countries, and Guatemala now has the highest malnutrition rate in the world, according to the CIA. This is why we have gone from 1% of refugees reaching the southern US border bringing children with them in 2014, to 50% today. People are literally trying to save their children from being murdered or dying of malnutrition-related diseases.

On top of this, the Trump administration is trying to do everything they can to rig the US census to undercount Latinos in the United States so that they can, essentially, gerrymander the entire country to the political and financial benefit of white Republicans. Meanwhile, the Trump administration and the GOP are delighting in the cruelty of all of it, because they know that without the white racist vote they don't have a chance in 2020. They are not horrified by the pictures and stories coming out of our concentration camps: they want more and more people to see them to fire up white racist voters.

In a year and a half we will have a chance to remove these Republicans from office across the nation. If we fail to, America may well never recover as the nation we thought we knew.



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Dianereynolds 4 years 50 weeks ago

Good morning HotCoffee,

Might as well start the day off under another of Thoms lies about the "concentration camps" that obama built.

Reality is, the leftie/socialists look at these people as guaranteed democrat party voters. They at no point in time ask why Mexico should not take them in and let them prosper in the free college and healthcare for all that Thom has told us Mexico provides.

I never was under the belief that any of the current clowns in the democrat dumpster fire would actually make it to the final nomination. Clearly the obama's hate Crazy Uncle Joe. I always believed Howard Schultz or (gasp) Michelle Obama would get the nod at the last minute and save the day.

Steyer could be the one to bring ration and reason to that party by showing the wild eyed radicals the door.

On to good news,

Historic: Trump set to raise record $2 billion for reelection, 4-times 2016


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Dianereynolds 4 years 50 weeks ago


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HotCoffee 4 years 50 weeks ago

Hi Diane,

And Me shell is out telling everyone how awfull it was for her/? ( remember what Joan Rivers said) to be first lady......and how there were no scandels!

Here are some of those scandels that she says never happened....

As for the border...I watched a little of Amy's Democracy now this morning and Glen Greenwald was speaking about Brazil where he is under death threats for being gay.


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Dianereynolds 4 years 50 weeks ago

Hey HotCoffee, Here is a tidbit that needs posting as Hatrmann's memory all too often needs jogging.

All this freaking out by the left about Trump wanting to put a question on the census that was there until Obama removed it is not only pure politics but shows the democrats ultimate goal here which is to count illegals as citizens. The reasons they want to do this are many but in the end it's just one more step towards open borders and full citizenship rights for illegals. Trump is putting things back the way they were before Obama began his program to "fundamentally change America".

The only possible change Trump is making is, I believe he wants the question in both the long and short form instead of just in the long form which is not nearly the dramatic "this has never been done before sky is falling" accusations by the left.

"Beginning in 1970, the Census Bureau started distributing two different questionnaires: a short form sent to most households and a long form sent to about 1 in 6 households. Only the long form asked about citizenship.

In 2000, for example, respondents who got the long-form questionnaire were asked, “Is this person a CITIZEN of the United States?” But those who received the short form were only asked for the basics, such as name, date of birth, sex, and race.


The 2010 census ditched the long form, using only a 10-question short-form questionnaire that did not ask about citizenship."

Let's see If that ever makes the leftie/socialist newz.

Coalage3 4 years 50 weeks ago

Droughts are always the result of climate change, are they not? I guess what you meant to say was "man-made climate change". Of course, there is no proof that the actions of the earth's population had anything to do with droughts. There is no definite proof that the peoples of the earth have any direct impact on the climate, or on the weather.

You are right DR. It is not controversial to ask about citizenship on the census form. It is controversial to not ask that question.

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HotCoffee 4 years 50 weeks ago

Hey Kids,

There must be an unbelievable amount of illegals in the Country....otherwise why would the Dems be so desperate to stop us from finding out how many? It sure can't be the 11 million they have told us for the last 20 years.

Why elect any president since the federal judges seem to be running the country...and against the people no less!

As for climate was sunny and warm is cloudy and cool..

uh huh it's climate change right here in my yard!

my 2 cents until later!

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HotCoffee 4 years 50 weeks ago

Question for Thom

Why don't you want to know how many illegals are here?? Please be specific!

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Dianereynolds 4 years 50 weeks ago

HotCoffee, Hatrmann's answer to you would be, "they will refuse to answer the census questions anyway.

I think a better question for Thom would be, "Why are you afraid to allow the government to know how many actual citizens are in this country?"

A simple "I am or I am not a citizen" question is all that is needed. The twisted illogical mind of the leftie/socialists is interesting.

I do know this, because the malcontent lefties are so adamant about this question says something is afoot.

Coalage3 4 years 49 weeks ago

What will it take for the party of death to see the light? Let us review...from Peter Van Buren:

Excerpts: Obama initially prosecuted only those found illegally entering more than once. Caught off guard by an influx of asylum seekers from Central America, his administration in 2014 established then-legally permitted family detention centers to hold parents and children—potentially indefinitely—in cages as a means of deterring others. And if kids arrived without their parents or in the hands of human traffickers or if their parents were criminally dangerous, they were held alone in cages. The program ended only because of a 2016 court decision ordering the release of most of those hostage families and largely prohibiting family detention facilities. Adult men, women, and children would be caged separately in the future. Trump set out in April 2018 to prosecute every illegal crosser, first or tenth time, with or without kids, the letter of the law. There had been a growing rise in the number of people from the Northern Triangle (Honduras, Guatemala, and El Salvador) and from Mexico. For example, the border patrol detained 6,405unaccompanied children in May 2018, up from 4,302 in April. In comparison with May 2017, the number of unaccompanied children soared by 329 percent, and parents migrating with kids as families surged by 435 percent in 2018.

But as we talk, there are still kids in cages. None of this is to defend the conditions in detainee camps. Those are a result of a sudden shift in implementation of immigration law coupled with a lack of infrastructure planning, driven by a president who impulsively wants to be seen as “tough” facing down a problem, all backed by an asylum system no longer suited for the conditions imposed upon it. Conditions can be quickly improved: the House just voted $4.6 billion to do that.

But we need also acknowledge the dangers in 2019 of hysteria, driven by media and progressive politicians exploiting the situation to paint themselves as liberating another concentration camp on the road to Berlin, when what’s really needed are hygiene kits and child care workers. And no whataboutism. Under Obama, we tolerated kids in cages. So why shouldn’t we under Trump?

There are even deeper dangers. Progressives don’t want to fix Trump’s logistical mistakes (AOC and others voted against the recent humanitarian funding increases). The camps must not be made more humane, they say, they must be closed. Deportations must not be limited, they must be ended by decriminalizing illegal entry. Free medical care for illegal immigrants. Asylum to economic migrants. Abolish ICE. Open borders.

Meanwhile, Trump’s immigration policies resonate with important sectors of the public. Some 60 percent of likely voters support efforts to “prevent migrants from making fraudulent asylum claims and being released into the country.” This does not grow out of racism or white supremacy (Latinos support much of the Republican immigration agenda), though using those words is an easy way to blame people impacted by decades of imposed change and delete them from the conversation over how to do better.

What’s driving all this is elites’ imposition of an uncounted number of illegal immigrants with unknown skills and unknown criminal backgrounds. Do we get the guy with the 4.0 GPA or the one who committed 4.0 murders? We are destined—required—to take the bad with the good, scatter them around the country, and hope for the best.

A de facto open border similar to 2015 Europe imposed by progressives would have the same effect here as there, leading to a new, even more conservative backlash.

Coalage3 4 years 49 weeks ago

Former ICE director schools AOC at congressional hearing:


Under questioning from Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) about the Trump administration’s implementation of a “zero tolerance” policy at the border, former Immigration and Customs Enforcement Director Tom Homan said U.S. citizens get separated from their families if they commit crimes.

Ocasio-Cortez mentioned a memo Homan had signed, referring to him as the “author” of family separation. Homen told the committee that the memo included a “zero tolerance” policy as one of several recommendations to “secure the border and save lives.”

“Zero tolerance was interpreted as the policy that separated the children from their parents,” Ocasio-Cortez said to Homan on Friday during a House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing titled, The Trump Administration’s Child Separation Policy: Substantiated Allegations of Mistreatment.

“If I get arrested for DUI and I have a young child in the car I’m going to be separated,” Homan replied. “When I was a police officer in New York and I arrested a father for domestic violence, I separated that father from his family.”

“Mr. Homan, with all due respect, legal asylees are not charged with any crime,” Ocasio-Cortez said.

“When you’re in this country illegally, it’s violation 8, United States Code 1325,” he answered.

“Seeking asylum is legal,” she shot back.

“If you want to seek asylum, you go through a port of entry. Do it the legal way. The attorney general of the United States has made that clear,” he said.

“Okay,” Ocasio-Cortez said.

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