Where Will The Money Go?

Thom plus logo The Federal Reserve said yesterday that they could pump over $2 trillion into the economy, while other reports suggested it could be over $4 trillion. All of this is done without oversight and regulation by Congress, based on decisions made exclusively by the Fed.

In 2008, in the wake of the Bush Crash, the Fed passed out trillions of dollars to billionaires and big banks, bailing out the wealthy and powerful. It looks like we're set for a repeat of that performance.

Will there be a bailout for average people, poor people, and the homeless? Not so much, as Republicans complain about the cost of helping average people and resist a call for regular monthly payments, and Ivanka Trump is put in charge of the small business effort so, presumably, the Trump family businesses can take good care of themselves...



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deepspace 41 weeks 1 day ago

In regard to the previous thread, people left alive in November should vote as if their lives depend on it. They do. Imagine the dystopian future with this guy and his party of sycophants in charge for another four years!

Check out the fourth graph on the website below called "How confirmed cases of coronavirus have spread." It's an easy-to-understand visual that Rachael had on her show, which doesn't require much explanation other than to comment on how shocking and demoralizing it is to see the richest, most powerful country on Earth fail her citizenry so miserably, especially when her leaders absolutely knew well in advance what was heading straight at us. This was a monumental failure of leadership on a genocidal scale. There is simply no excuse:


Legend 41 weeks 19 hours ago

All of this spending of money that we do not have has to create inflation. There has been zero discussion on raising money (taxes, tariffs etc.) to pay for it. Zero discussion on cutting spending (military etc.). If you are on a fixed income prepare for the devaluation of your income. Also prepare for a strong Republican attack on your (they will emphasize the word) ENTITLEMENTS (ie Social Security and Medicare the entitlements that you are entitled to because you paid for them).

Post #1. The saddest part, that I see is, how we totally ignored and still ignore what the successful countries, against this virus, did. We suggest masks, when they obviously reduce the spread (Taiwan 24 million, 365 cases, 5 deaths, everybody wears masks). We have daily flights coming in from hot spots like Brazil. There are several states that do not take social distancing seriously or took it up way to late. Trump wants to restart the Economy. It would be restarting if he had done something (other than play golf) at the beginning. But restarting it now will be devastating to the country as it will come back with a vengence. Actually it has not left.

joes1st 41 weeks 15 hours ago

I've not heard this mentioned - I think it's important to realize we are not yet realizing just how early the tRump administration must've known about thie Covid-19 virus. When one considers how much Ivanka must've gone to China to tend to business ventures and the level of security that must be around her in wide and very ways, one must deduce that the White House must've known much earlier than we are being led to believe.

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deepspace 41 weeks 11 hours ago

#3: It's no longer necessary to deduce; the timeline now on record makes it abundantly clear.

Just for starters: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16

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deepspace 41 weeks 6 hours ago

#2: Exactly right. The experts and the evidence agree that the quicker we would have increased the manufacture of sufficient medical supplies, instituted intelligent travel restrictions, strict social distancing, personal protection, testing to see who's got it, and testing to see who's immune, the quicker the virus would have been better managed and possibly contained, and the quicker the economy could have rebounded.

But we live inside Trump's deluded nightmare, so the pandemic and economic pain will likely drag out in waves back and forth across the country interminably as the economic engine tries to sputter back to life.

Science -- not religion -- will ultimately develop the cure. Or, until we have that vaccine, possibly some of the more promising anti-viral drugs, etc., could mitigate the symptoms or hopefully even keep a weakened immune system from overreacting, which in too many cases leads to a vicious, losing battle against a virus that can destroy enough lung tissue to cause acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) and death.

Even with a ventilator, it becomes too hard to push an adequate supply of oxygen through a glue-like fluid to the fewer and fewer functioning cells in the lungs' air sacs. Finally, the heart gives out while the body is suffocating and spasming. It's a bad way to go. Ask that patient or his or her family if Trump's precious rich-man economy, reelection numbers, and happy horesh*t is worth life itself.

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avn013 41 weeks 4 hours ago

#2: Why should "billionaires" like Trump bother about inflation? Most of their wealth is not money, it is companies, buildings, and other facilities that generate money. Inflation reduces the buying power of people who earn money by working at companies etc that generate money. The same stands for at least some of the politicians (both R &D) who vote these laws. In addition, the politicians add insult to injury by increasing taxation to delay the increase of deficit. They produce the deficit, others pay for it. "Ideal" con job. No wonder orange people are supported for presidents. The wonder is how Obama managed to be elected for two consecutive terms. All rules have an exception, i guess. And it looks like a once in a century exception.....

Legend 40 weeks 6 days ago

#6. Every Republican has decreased taxes (revenue) and increased spending. Each time this is done, the markets get a sugar high. Then it crashes. Each Republican has taken us into a recession or Depression. Each time the Democrats get elected they have to clean up the mess that the Rpublicans left.

Legend 40 weeks 6 days ago

The Horror.

Legend 40 weeks 6 days ago

#9. Can you elaborate on what is wrong with any of those headlines? The Democrats protect the working man and the Republicans protect the 1%. Maybe you should study what Trump has done with the last bills $500 billion slush fund oversite.

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deepspace 40 weeks 5 days ago

He descended into Hell on Tuesday, November 8, 2016. A long, long time later, He rose again. Upon seeing Trump's black shadow still spreading across the land, He predicted at least six more weeks of quarantine, probably longer. Then, He returned to His tomb to shelter in place until Tuesday, November 3, 2020.

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