None Dare Call It Treason & Murder

Thom plus logo Americans "have got to know" if our last president conspired to commit treason and murder to end American democracy.

Did Donald Trump and some of the people around him conspire to have others murder the Vice President and Speaker of the House in order to hold power and conceal his crimes for another four years?

Time and evidence will eventually prove or disapprove that question, but the evidence before us right now is pretty grim.

About a week after Donald Trump lost the 2020 election, he fired his Secretary of Defense and replaced him with a reliable toady, Christopher Miller. He also replaced several other senior civilian officials at the Pentagon around the same time, including one who was a "protégé" of Mike Flynn.

We learned from yesterday's testimony by Major General William Walker, the Commander of the Washington DC National Guard, that not only had he been prepared and ready to protect the Capitol on January 6, but that he was specifically ordered not to by that same recently-installed Acting Defense Secretary Miller.

The Capitol was under siege the afternoon of January 6th, and there was a very real possibility that Trump's militia followers would succeed in assassinating Vice President Pence and Speaker Pelosi and hijacking the ballots for the Electoral College. They'd even erected a gallows outside the Capitol.

And in the process, five people died, including a police officer. Typically, when people die in the commission of a crime, everybody participating in the crime is also charged with murder. Even getaway drivers who were otherwise uninvolved in a crime are typically charged with felony murder when somebody dies during the commission of that crime.

As this massive and deadly crime was being committed, General Walker and others repeatedly reached up through the chain of command to the Secretary of the Army and to Secretary of Defense Miller to beg for the DC National Guard to come protect the Capitol.

While Donald Trump gleefully watched the chaos from the White House on television, Kevin McCarthy, who just a month earlier was Speaker of the House and on January 6th led the House's Republicans, called Trump personally to beg him to stop the assault.

"Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are," Trump told him with a sneer as people were smashing in the windows to McCarthy's office to get at him.

Did Trump or his son organize or plan this? Did they intend for people to die? That possibility is so horrible, so unthinkable, that few in the media will go there.

But America must ask the question that the rest of the world is already saying out loud: Did the President of the United States, or people close to him operating under what they believed to be his orders, put together a plan to seize the ballots and murder the two most senior American officials in the Capitol, the Vice President and the Speaker of the House, so that the 12th Amendment could be invoked and Congress would decide who would be president?

Under that 12th Amendment scenario, each state gets one vote and that vote is determined by each states' legislature. More state legislatures are controlled by Republicans than Democrats, so if the vote went to the House, like it did in 1876, the result would be a Trump presidency for another four years. And Trump not only knew that but had spoken of it at rallies on more than one occasion.

There are multiple, troubling data points here.
  • Just a week after Trump lost the November election, he replaced his Secretary of Defense with Christopher Miller (as well as others in the senior civilian ranks of the Pentagon).
  • On January 4th or 5th, Acting Secretary of Defense Miller issued what was essentially a "stand down" order to the DC National Guard, something the Guard's commander testified before Congress yesterday was unprecedented. (Miller's letter is attached at the bottom of this article.)
  • The evening meeting January 5 at the Trump Hotel that included Trump Junior and "stop the steal" leader Guilfoyle along with, allegedly, Senator Tommy Tuberville and others working to overturn the 2020 election result.
  • Disgraced, confessed criminal Lt. General Michael Flynn openly advocated a military coup to keep Trump in power; his brother was on the call mid-afternoon January 6 and is allegedly the person who argued that sending in the National Guard to save the lives of the assembled legislators and their staffs would be "bad optics." That assertion apparently gave a few more hours to Trump's murderous followers at the Capitol.
  • Trump's prediction, just three weeks before the election, that the House of Representatives, not the Electoral College, would decide who was going to be president after the election. "I guess, at a certain point it goes to Congress," he said on September 16th. "At a certain point it goes to Congress — you know that."
  • While the nation watched in horror as the Capitol was under assault, Donald Trump locked Mike Pence's Chief of Staff out of the White House.
  • It wasn't until it was quite clear to the public and to Donald Trump watching on television that Speaker Pelosi and Vice President Pence were safe and the ballots were sequestered that finally, at 5:20 pm, Secretary Miller allowed the National Guard to arrive and clean up the mess, although even then people were clearing out and there were no arrests of any consequence.

This is no small matter.

Richard Nixon once said, "People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook."

To update the sentiment, the American people "have got to know" if our last president conspired to commit treason and murder as part of a coup plot to end American democracy.


Jan 4 letter from the Acting Secretary of Defense

Originally posted on


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Wet Willie 1 year 48 weeks ago

dynomite article Thom and saved for posterity. thank you.*

one thing -- while they were well-armed I might hesitate to label them a 'militia' as in handing them 2nd Amendment cover -- the unregulated part is what they are -- unless 'regulated by people intent on overthrowing our Gov't' is what they meant way back when they wrote the thing.

the Director of the FBI called them terrorists. in this instance, I think he was the more correct.

*hey Thom if I wanted to change my handle is that possible? rather not go wtih WW if that can work out. Thanks.

and Thanks for the Article!

Lock. him. up!

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cuz 1 year 48 weeks ago

Thom, it appears you have officially lost your marbles.

Bonnie Frank 1 year 48 weeks ago

as several house members and senators immediately said and what is so patently obvioous now is that it was an inside job. clearly pre-meditated and planned. i do believe that it was corruption at such high levels that now even the Dems are trying to water down this logical conclusion since it means that our government systems have failed and a wholesale cleaning of house needs to happen yesterday.

perhaps we can start by quietly rooting out and changing our pathetic unending fear-based, christian/religious zealots that govern all aspects of our lives. they are greedy, power-hungry, pro-military, violent, sexist, racist and that culture permeates everything in our "democratic" government.

criminals .. all of them. indict, expel and eradicate from our government especially in the house and senate!

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Snowflake2005 1 year 48 weeks ago

I read perhaps 6 weeks ago that Mayor Bowser attempted repeatedly in the days before January 6 to activate the D.C. National Guard for Wed., Jan. 6. She evidently tried very hard on January 5 when she still could not get approval for her requests.

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alis volat 1 year 47 weeks ago

Experts have written about Trump being a sociopath. Around 3% of humans have an anti-social disorder. They are in our lives, but few of us want to acknowledge that. Good people have a conscience, so it's hard for them to understand how not having one "works". Sociopaths can seem fearless, but they can fear. What they don't understand or anticipate is danger, and boy does that describe citizen Trump! It is the defining aspect of his failures concerning family, business, and politics.

Absolutely anything and everything could have happened with Trump's involvement in the failed insurrection response. I wonder who else he will implicate?

As responsible Americans, we have no choice. The truth and consequences are coming. We are getting a clearer picture of who will pay. The stink of the Trump administration will linger, but we must hold our nose and do our duty. Sometimes prosecutors have to cut deals to get to the big boss, but no more pardons will be some small consolation. He won't perceive the danger till the perp-walk or when he's in a cell. Trump will presume he is above it all; he is a classic sociopath!

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Riverplunge 1 year 47 weeks ago

It's easy:

Commit a crime while you are in a political office.

No penalty.

Commit a crime when you aren't a politician.


Legend 1 year 47 weeks ago

The Republican Party is now 2 Party's. The Conservative Republican Party and the Fascist Republican Party. The Fascist Republican Party is now the majority in the Republican Party. Conservative Republicans are bailing out or being primaried.

It is so easy to predict. Watch the surge in covid cases in the states that recently dropped mask mandates and opened up 100%. Starts in about 2 weeks. It is so easy to wear a mask to protect your fellow citizens and yourself.

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SueN 1 year 47 weeks ago

Cuz, if you can't make a well thought out case, best to say nothing.

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cuz 1 year 47 weeks ago

Sue, look up and watch the first 20 minutes of Tucker Carlson's show on March 5, 2021. It covers the conspiracy theories being passed around on left wing media. Regardless of what people think of Carlson's show, it has visuals directly from sources you know.

It supports my marbles comment.

rostasi 1 year 47 weeks ago

I sat thru only the first three minutes of Carlson (it was difficult)
and heard nothing but gaslighting turned up to unbelievable
levels of obvious ridiculousness that could only elicit alternating
jaw dropping and facepalming. Extraordinary.

But, you know, it really is meant to evoke these surprises and
possible anger of people who are watching this kind of thing,
so they become successful until there are enough people who
just refuse to give them any more attention - anymore than you
would talk all day about the homeless person that you saw on
the street babbling on about something equally nonsensical.

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SueN 1 year 47 weeks ago

Cuz, I can't watch the full show video because I'm not a subscriber to any of the providers. Is there a clip of the portion you mean? If so, please let me have the link.

Legend 1 year 47 weeks ago

Rush Limbaugh had a net worth of $600 million at death. Given to him by suckers like Cuz. Guess by now he has found that you cannot take it with you. Tucker Carlson a lowly $30 million. But his Politifact rating shows that he makes that money by lying. He just does not lie as good as Rush.

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cuz 1 year 47 weeks ago

Sue, I will ignore the snide comments made by a couple of others here and give you this link from FOX news. I tried to link it through Youtube but for some reason, they have removed it from view so here it is from FOX directly.

I am an individual that will watch both sides of a position and lately my dissatisfaction with the left stems from the fact they have full 100% control of the Congress and White House yet all we get is whining, complaining, and one conspiracy theory after another many of which are blown to bits in the 15 minute Carlson rant. Watch it with an open mind.

I find Carlson to be very Limbaughesque in his presentations yet what he is showing is facts and footage. Take it for what you will but I personally find it very revealing that the media is constantly trying to reverse or backpedal from its positions only to quickly rush headlong into another mindless theory that again will be proven to be unfounded.

As for the posters that poo-poo this, I couldn't care less but I will remember that they always openly complain about the source but admit they do not watch the very people they complain about.. Their opinion is respected and I do not try to interpret or disparage their words. Free speech is just that.

rostasi 1 year 47 weeks ago

Yesterday, I found the March 5th episode that was being crowed about.
Carlson began with an ever-cascading litany of his definitions of what
liberalism is all about. OK, so he is entitled to his opinions, but the
way he broadcasts those opinions makes the Isley Brothers and
The Beatles versions of "Twist and Shout" appear timid in comparison.

A breakdown of just the first 5 minutes would take so much space and
reader time here that it would be such a waste - primarily because it
achieves nothing to point out that the majority of the opinions (as FOX
"news" has multiple times pointed out when they find themselves in a
legal bind) are presented as facts. They have a very willing audience
that chooses to glom onto those opinions because they either reinforce
their already preconceived notions or add padding to those very same beliefs.

Just in the paragraph above, we have someone stating that the Democrats
have "100% control of the Congress and White House." No, they don't.
It would be humorous if it weren't so sad to recognize the gaslighting of referring
to "whining, complaining, and...conspiracy theor(ies)." Watching something
"with an open mind" doesn't mean looking for something to fit your pre-conceived
notions and emotions.

Yes, Carlson could be considered "Limbaughesque" if what you are looking for
are the numerous personal qualities that make up a repulsive human being.
Yes, footage is being shown, but one would be very hard-pressed to find facts
wiggling out from under the tonnage of jaw-droppingly manipulative screed.

I do agree that there is a lot of media "backpedal(ing)" and "headlong" Rush into
"mindless theor(ies)" that will continue to be proven unfounded, but this is precisely why I steer clear of it and find those very few left-wing sources that are hiding amidst the dreck in order to get my information in context rather than some idiot screaming his opinions at me. If I wanted to listen to someone like that, I'd take up a drinking habit and hang out at some dive downtown every night.
I have better ways to spend my time.

This ties in with the idea about "complain(ing)," but not watching:
You don't have to keep watching the wAcKy media spewers after you've figured out their obvious angle in the same way that I don't feel the need to, everyday, meet up with the mentally disturbed guy at a major intersection to get his world opinion. I kinda figured that out after just a few run-ins with him - that yes, they have an opinion and they have every right to it, but I don't have to agree, run my life, or, generally, set my mental clock to them. I prefer to find and read or listen to an actual informed discourse and use clearcut analysis in order to come to an opinion - one, by the way, that is flexible enough to change once newly analyzed info sees light which is something that I rarely see in people who consider themselves "conservative."

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SueN 1 year 47 weeks ago

Thanks for the link, Cuz.

I agree with him that the award of medals is very arbitrary. That is a very common problem. And just look at who Trump gave top medals to, and pardons. And just to show that I'm not partisan, I don't think Obama merited the Nobel prize either.

If they didn't know about March 4, then they really were living in a bubble. The Republicans have QAnon supporters in Congress, for goodness sake. Surely they would be hearing the conspiracy theories. And since it involved many of the same people who stormed the Capitol on January 6, it had to be taken seriously. The authorities may not have believed the theory, but Trump followers seem to be able to believe anything except the truth. I wonder what Tucker would have said if the authorized ignored the warnings, as many did for January 6, and a mob did indeed arrive. Monday morning quarterbacking is cheap, a lot easier than real reporting.

The MSNBC woman said media coverage might have put QAnon off - was there no right wing coverage?

Did he have to go back to the 60s to find a left wing end of the world theorist? There have been loads over the years. Were they all right wing? And climate doom saying is for the most part about things are going to get worse if we don't something, not about the end of everything. Climate change is real and the right has been in denial for far too long. Just ask insurers who have to pay out for climate-related disasters.

The razor wire around the capitol is due to Trump's actions. Hopefully in time his following will fizzle out and it won't be needed any more.

Given the prevalence of arms in the US, protests that would pass off relatively peacefully in many other countries are far more likely to be armed in the US and lead to loss of life, whether intentional "hang Mike Pence" "kill Nancy Pelosi" or not. So it is not surprising that the likes of the FBI take warnings seriously. Just look at what happened in the Michigan capitol, and the threats to Governor Whitmer.

He called the protesters gentle people, loving their country and waving their flags. They were not gentle in the Capitol or the Michigan capitol, and the flags they were waving were not those of the United States of America. There were Confederate and Trump flags aplenty, for example. That single guy wasn't waving the American flag=. And if he had been black he might well have been shot.

He said there had been violent riots for months. He neglects to mention that they happened on Trump's watch, and that at least some of the violence was caused by white infiltrators and the cops themselves. Trump ordered the cops in and essentially gave them a green light. And that they were a lot less violent than the white supremacist Capitol riot - and just look at the skin color of the rioters. And that the vast majority of politically motivated deaths have been at the hands of white supremacists.

White supremacists behind majority of US domestic terror attacks in 2020

In fact only one killing was by someone calling himself an anti-fascist, and he was extra judicially assassinated by the police, so he never got a trial and we won't know the whole truth.

Tucker Carlson's performance was not worthy of a news reporter, and Fox should not call itself news. Thom calls his show opinion, and it is far more factual than that sample.

The left do not have full control of the Congress. The Senate is 50-50 and while the filibuster exists they need to be 60-40 to have full control. And with a couple of Democrats being very conservative, they can't even be sure of 50 votes.

It is the norm these days for the media to do whatever it can to grab eyeballs. It is regrettable, but hardly confined to the left-leaning channels. Just go over to for some right wing samples. Here's one:

In fact, there are left wing outlets that are not in it to make as much money as they possibly can and who try to do a decent job of presenting news of importance to ordinary people.

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cuz 1 year 47 weeks ago

Sue, I think we are in agreement more than you think. Both sides are off the rails and until there is some middle ground compromise the future is in limbo.

rostasi 1 year 47 weeks ago

"Both sides are off the rails" in the same way that flat earthers and sphere earthers are "off the rails."

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deepspace 1 year 47 weeks ago

Again, bothsidesism. the same way that violent insurrectionists attacking the foundation of democracy and peaceful Black Lives Matter protesters marching for fundamental human rights are both "off the rails."

How does one compromise with racism, that there are "very fine people on both sides"? How does one compromise with a liar, that half of 30,000 lies are true? How does one compromise with a sexual predator, that sometimes it's okay to "grab 'em by the pussy"?

When everything is right, nothing is wrong; when everything is wrong, nothing is right -- a very dark future indeed.

“For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable – what then?” - George Orwell

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AlexClare 1 year 46 weeks ago

WOW.. This news!

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