DAnneMarc: A+...fantastic! Yes, as long as the study depicted what they wanted depicted then that was ok. But if it illustrated what could happen...what has happened...and what is currently happening in the US... to shed light on our current leaders (you know, the "bastions" of freedom and democracy ;-Q ) then the subject gets a little touchy. As long as they can make it look like it had nothing to do with "democracy" and everything to do with "dictatorships" and little heel-clicking men with mustaches eating wienerschnitzel downing it with a stein of Dunkelweizen, then the subject is perfectly ok. But try to apply that to the Obama regime! Seig heil!

Palindromedary ~ Yes, I know about the Milgram experiments in Yale, and the Zimbardo experiments in Stanford. I originally learned them in Sociology 101 some 25 years ago in college. I remember clearly that our wise instructor explained the experiments as an attempt to understand how Nazi soldiers were able to treat prisoners in such inhumane ways. The conclusions of the experiments were very shocking and far graver than the study or the class I was in ever expected.

On an aside, I remember clearly asking in the class if the experiments were only meant to understand what happened and not to discover what could happen. The teacher refused to give a verbal answer and just responded with a :-0 expression. I asked a lot of questions in that class. I got an A+ too.

DAnneMarc: Hey, man, thanks for that tip...No, I have not yet watched Thom's program. I'll certainly watch it!

I've been trying to figure out my options on what I am to do when, in a few weeks, I may have to go dark..ie: no phone..no internet. I believe what AT&T Uverse is doing is highly illegal...or should be. And they are certainly being very deceptive.

“Behind the Shock Machine: The Untold Story of the Notorious Milgram Psychology Experiments”
A book by Gina Perry

Quote truthdig article:The real topic of [this Yale University] study [by Milgram] was obedience: Would someone administer what they believed were painful, perhaps lethal, shocks to another person, for no reason other than being told by an authority figure to do so?

The obedience experiments showed, Milgram later told “60 Minutes,” that if “a system of death camps were set up in the United States of the sort we have seen in Nazi Germany, one would be able to find sufficient personnel for those camps in any medium-sized American town.”

The results of the experiments were captivating, hinting that we all carry the latent seeds of Eichmann in our DNA...

“The standard account of Milgram’s experiments suggests that ordinary people can be manipulated into behaving in ways that contradict their morals and values—that you or I could be talked into torturing a man. But could we?”

[was Milgram's results bogus? Gina Perry did a lot of research and found that...]

..a number of participants claimed they didn’t actually believe the shocks were real; that Milgram failed to publicize segments of his research that undermined his dramatic findings; and that in more than half the experiments—Milgram conducted 24 variations—the majority of people didn’t obey the orders.

Another academic, Don Mixon, argued that the project didn’t reveal our readiness to commit immoral acts, but instead the faith we place in experts. “People go to great lengths, will suffer great distress, to be good,” he told Perry. “People got caught up in trying to be good and trusting the expert. Both are usually thought of as virtues, not as evils.”

Christopher Browning’s extraordinary 1992 book, “Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland.” Browning recounts how a group of non-military, non-ideological, older family men, who “went through their formative period in the pre-Nazi era,” were turned into killers, despite being tormented by guilt and conflict.

...plenty of participants believed they were inflicting pain, and they inflicted such pain precisely because they viewed Yale as a benign authority.

...once we have identified authority figures as benign, to trust and follow their orders, even when they appear reckless and cruel.

...we should remember, “experts” led our country into a disastrous war in Vietnam, and more recently, “expert” bankers (and regulators) played a central role in driving our economy into the ground.

http://www.truthdig.com/arts_culture/item/beyond_the_shock_machine_20130...

1110Roger: Well, I suppose we could write in Alfred E. Neuman or Bugs Bunny! The host of politicians we've voted for so far are just as comical! Except they really aren't funny...they destroy lives!

Maybe they need to create a new comic series called The Little Rascals with actual caricatures of the Presidents since before Reagan.

"Diplomacy Hell! I want to kill someone!" says little Stymie! "Oh, I know...lets arm our former enemies, Al Qaida, and have our rich camel humper from Saudi Arabia supply them with chemical weapons. Then they can commit even greater atrocities than they did in Maaloula where they butchered a bunch of Christians, cut off heads, and raped Nuns!"

"Boys will be boys, eh? Heh! Heh! says Darla."

"You said it!" says Spanky.

In the words of Rom Emanuel " Who else are we going to vote for"?

Traditional telephone service has always included providing a power source that allowed the telephone to work even if the residence lost power. This was important especially when one needed to contact emergency services like 911 or even to contact the local government services like local police on a non emergency basis like 311.

AT&T Uverse installations cannot provide power if they install Fiber to the Premises (FTTP) (ie: to your home) because fiber optics only conveys light signals and not electrical power along with electrical signals. About 95% of all AT&T Uverse installations do not actually install fiber to the Premises.

The real benefits of fiber optics, very high speed and none of the typical traditional problems of copper wire lines...like noise and delays, cannot be realized unless you get rid of the copper all the way to the premises. I suppose it might have been possible for AT&T Uverse to supply electrical power on those installations that still have copper but for some reason it doesn't look like they have opted to do that*. With AT&T Uverse installations, copper or fiber, you have to have a back up battery at your premises to power either the units they attach to your premises..either an ONT (Optical Network Terminal) or an iNids (intelligent network interface device). Currently, with traditional phone installations they use a NID (Network Interface Device). Both the NID and the iNID are used when copper wires are used. The ONT is used when fiber optics run to your premises.

You really should read the AT&T Uverse TOS (terms of service)...very scary!! I am no lawyer but I must say that it looks to me like this TOS is pretty much saying that if you sign this agreement you accept all of the problems and liabilities that might arise. One thing they do make sure of is that you are definitely locked in for the term of the agreement to any payments or fees you have agreed to...plus, perhaps, any that you were not aware of. Lots of people have complained that AT&T Uverse charged them fees that they didn't agree to and had to fight AT&T Uverse over them.
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IV. Interruptions, Limitations, And Modifications To Service

AT&T U-verse Voice service cannot be used to make or receive operator-assisted collect or third-party billing calls, nor can AT&T U-verse Voice service be used to make 900/976 calls; area code 500, 700, and 710 calls; 10-10-XXX dial-around calls; or international operator or directory assistance calls. Also, the ability to call certain N11 services (211, 311, 511) may not be available.

http://www.att.com/u-verse/att-terms-of-service.jsp
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N11 services:

2-1-1: community services, United Way
3-1-1: municipal government services, non-emergency
4-1-1: directory assistance
5-1-1: traffic information or police non-emergency services
6-1-1: telephone company (telco) customer service and repair
7-1-1: TDD relay for the deaf
8-1-1: underground public utility location,[1] in Canada 8-1-1 is assigned for non-emergency health information and services
9-1-1 emergency medical, police, or fire

Wikipedia
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Be sure to read:

V. AT&T U-verse Voice 911 Limitations
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And, in addition, you're home burglar alarms may not work either.

Read:

VI. Home Alarm and Other Device Compatibility
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It would be most helpful if the UN could arrange to seal off Syrian borders to any military contraband that might be headed to terrorist or rebel strongholds. It seems obvious to me that during this peace negotiation there is a prime opportunity for the same rebel factions that may have caused the last attack to repeat the same strategy--perhaps with even deadlier consequences. There are plenty of satellites in space and aircraft carriers in the Mediterranean to launch joint successive surveillance flights along Syrian borders. I hope they have the good sense to do so.

EXCEPT it is not a 'civil war', it is closer to Genocide according to some, with Assad unleashing the military to indiscriminately shell and shoot and bomb ANYONE in the general area of his opponents.

My great Congressman shares my views.

@DAnneMarc

A laudable list.

Others also suggest ending the Federal Reserve System (i.e. the private bankster cartel printing press) and letting the government print its own money. Ron Paul is a fan of competing currencies, of course, but get back to the Constitution first. End the Fed.

I will be glad when this whole Syria situation is resolved.

I don't agree with Thom Hartmann. I think these attacks on Obama are unfair. I think everyone did a knee-jerk reaction out of fear of war, and have not given this any logical thought. The lies spread by the right wing, Putin, Assad, and every other enemy of America have collectively clouded the facts, and that cloud, combined with fear and shame left from the Bush Administration has obscured judgement.

I miss the show, but I feel like I'm listening to Limbaugh on the issue of Syria.