The right-wing extremists on the radio have been blasting President Obama all day about Benghazi. What they are all saying is a total F'ing lie. hannity has been whining for a week now about Benghazi saying that it is all "obama's" and Hillary's fault. He lied when he said that no ambassador has been killed in over thiry years. This is a total F'ing lie. I emailed him last week and called him out but he is still spreading the damn lie.

Here are the facts from Daily Kos:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/18/1187897/-Dear-Senator-McCain-STFU

Daily Kos said in February that there were 14 attacks on U.S. Embassies between 2002 and 2008, all under the BUSH administration. In these attacks, 72 people were wounded and 49 were killed including eight Americans

and one ambassador. NO CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS WERE CALLED FOR.

A security brief issued in August 2001 warned Bush that Bin Laden was planning a big attack in the US. Bush ignored it and over 3,000 innocent people were murdered. NO CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS WERE CALLED FOR

On top of all this, Reagan got over 200 marines killed in Lebanon. NO CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS WERE CALLED FOR

To top it all off, the Republicon Congress cut President Obama’s embassy

budget $128 million in 2011 and another $231 million in 2012.

How dare that F'ing criminal daryl issa call for hearings. These bastards are obviously setting up

Hillary for failure because they want to steal the presidency.

This bullshit in the House needs to be terminated, lying bastard republicans.

Hey Thom, did you read this?

http://tinyurl.com/cus7fdm

in the early '70's I worked for Boeing in the flight simulator division of the Commercial Airplane Company as an electronics engineer/programmer. I had also been a licensed private pilot since age 18 and was quite active at the time. The largest simulator we had was a 747 and was probably the most state-of-the-art simulator anywhere, outside of NASA, perhaps.

Part of my responsibilities included updating instruments, programming changes into the computer and then flying the simulator to check out the changes. This gave me ample opportunity to "hotdog" a 747 (certified to within 1% of the performance envelope or the real aircraft) and I used to routinely fly it through the doors of the big hangar at Boeing Field (just showing off!)

But I can tell you that, as an experienced light plane pilot, flying a big aircraft like a 747 (or a 767) was a handful, mainly because of the mass and corresponding inertia. Even after 3 years of flying "Fat Albert" I would occasionally blow a landing. The main issue was always the tendency to overcorrect. Small errors would become greatly magnified. And while the aircraft could be flown by "Knob" letting the auto pilot fly the plane to a dialed in heading, this took some doing to fly with precision.

So the reason I'm saying all of this to state that if there is any doubt as to whether the 911 aircraft were being flown manually (by minimally trained pilots) or on some kind of "remote control", the answer would be instantly obvious to anyone familiar with flight training by examining the flight path of the airplanes that hit the targets. If manual, they would likely have been all over the sky, or at least, making large corrections. If not, then that adds a lot of cred to the conspiracy theories I've heard here. The answer to the question is probably still on record (the ground track and radar data). If it's missing or classified, then, well .... who knows....

"It will show you how. Just go down to where you see"

Thanks

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Guillotines did not solve any problems. The 1% came back into power.

Palindromedary -- Guillotines did not solve any problems. The 1% came back into power. The only benefit was the storyline for "Les Misrables", which was about the overthrow of this follow-on royalty. It also failed. Infiltrate the democratic party.

Yes, I know, those Republicans couldn't even come out with a believable story about 911 (except they sure have fooled a lot of people, to this day, including a lot of Democrats..go figure!). Their conspiracy theory about Benghazi really had even fewer holes in it than 911. Remember, it was the REPUBLICANS, the BUSH ADMINISTRATION, that gave us their 911 conspiracy theory of 19 box cutter wielding Muslim hijackers who, despite not even being able to fly Cessna planes very well, managed to hijack and steer those huge airliners all the way to New York, or the Pentagon in Virginia, and accurately hit those WTC towers and the Pentagon. You believe that "official conspiracy theory" story, put out by the Republicans, but not their Benghazi story?

I'd say the 911 story is way more important. It is real treason committed by the same people who are in control of us all now. You think the Republicans, or their puppet masters the ruling elite, are not in control of us just because we have a "Democrat" President? Quit defending the weak kneed toady that won't even speak out against the treasonous previous administration. He's part of the problem. After all, look who he has consistently appointed. All criminals that caused our financial problems in the first place. Deregulation, and treasonous creators of the false flag operation on 911 are the real reason why this country is in such bad financial shape (except for the people who committed that treason...because they have never had it so good). It is the real reason why we are being spied on and the reason why many of our freedoms have been stripped from us. And our ability to communicate and say things on the internet is in jeopardy as well. We are constantly under attack by both Republicans, Democrats, and their puppet masters...the ruling elite.

MMmmNachos: "Mr. Two Headed Camel"--I like that!
But remember, you set the tone here...

Quote MMmmNachos:
.I find it funny that the usuale suspects are still bantering on about the "do do do the da da da..." i.e. Who shot Kennedy, Who Flew the Planes into the Twin Towers, Who...who...who!?!? Who fucken cares..

And if you want to "move past the endless debates" well then the same could be said in the future about what is happening now. It will always be "let's just move on"...just like Obama said!

First of all Mr Two head Camel...I already know who commited the violent attack on 9/11, though I do not 100% support your views. Yes the U.S. Government was involved, but I do not buy the theory that 4 planes were remote controlled. I support the idea that the U.S. intellagence knew about the plot to attack and allowed the 19 Musslims to play it out. As for the evidence of Therimite(sp?) it makes sense.

Now onto your attacking me...Blah Blah Blah!!!
I do not suffer fools...I did not vote for Obama in '12 or '08, nor did I vote for Bush, Clinton, or Bush. Nor did I vote for the opposing popular party. As you obviously do not recall I am very criticle of Fear Voters and their ignorance. When it comes to voting I subscribe to George Carlins voting practices; I Don't! Well I do, but I have never voted for one of the two corporate parties. I realized early on, (age 16 in the late 80's) that the Corporate Capitalist United States Two Party System does not have the average middle class workers best intrest at heart.

My point to the argument of "Who cares who did it" is more about moving past the endless debates...Sure maybe you did convince Ken Ware with some of your evidence...Now What!?!? Did anything change? No! and hear is why; Just like we will never hear who truely shot Kennedy, we will never know the truth to 9/11. The Companies (your "who") have made sure of that! But what we DO 100% KNOW is that since the mid 50's the United States Government (again "who") has been deeply involved in meddleing with other countries political affairs and policies; this has resulted in what is called Blow Back. In other words if your poke at a Hornets nest your gonna get stung. So instead of getting all high and mighty with your "Theorys" lets work to alter or abolish (here again is your "who") a government whoes practices and policies have become destructive of the principles founded in the Declaration of Independence and protected by the U.S. Constitution; The Equal Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness."
Here and abroad.

Talk is cheap! It's time to take to the streets!!!

Quote MMmmNachos:
I am more concerned about the "Why's" and what we need to do to establish true peace...Wrangle, restrain, the Corporations that are writting and pushing hostle policies in Washington that diminish the U.S. Constitution and dismantle We the Peoples Rights, as well as destroy the middle class work force.

Add to that Daniel Quinn's novel "Ishmael", a ficticious story using science, religion, and mother culture to tell the plight and demise of man kind; the Leavers and the Takers.
Quinn followed this story up with "The Story of B" and a third book which I don't recall the title.

"With Man gone, will there be hope for Gorilla"?
"With Gorilla gone, will there be hope for Man?"

namasté

Thanks for the warning OUTBACK...I guess the first ammendment only applies to BLAH BLAH BLAH, dare say something provokative and TRUE, and the next thing you know you'll make the Kill List!

I clearly indicate that I am generalizing with the harsh claims I am making about Americans.
Also I too have family that has served and am happy to say that all 5 of them are Consciencious Objectors to the funding and murderous practices of the U.S. Government and its Military Industrial Complex. One of them announced his Objection and requested discharge after serving in the Navy for 15 years. Talking to him is a real disturbing eye opener...Much like that of Dalton Trumbo's novel "Johnny Got His Gun" A book that in my opinion should be required reading for all High School Seniors, before making the mistake of becoming a Pawn and serving a calous and corrupt U.S. Government.

Other required reading that I think is profound in educating our youth; Howard Zinn's "The Peoples History of the United States" and "Passionate Declarations; essays on War and Justice" Leo Tolstoys "War And Peace", Mohandas Gandhi's essay "Doctrine of the Sword, all essays on the practice of non violence by both Gene Sharp and Martin Luther King, and "Civil Disobedience" by Henry David Thoreau. Just to name a few.