Loren Bliss ~ I have read your Friday post about the traumatic encounter with the woman in the park. I sincerely hope you are feeling better. However, I must say, and I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but times have seriously changed since you were a commercial photographer. You should bare in mind in the future that in our modern society children are particular targets for all manner of predator. Personally, I think the woman you encountered displayed unreasonable aggression toward you. On the other hand, the instinctual response to protect ones child will bring that type of aggression out.
Loren, what I would suggest you try in the future is to approach the adults in the playground before you even unload your camera equipment. Offer them your card, introduce yourself, and explain to them what you are doing and what project you are working on. You might even want to bring a sample portfolio of your past work to help explain to them what you do. Only after receiving their blessing, go ahead and set up your camera equipment.
I too am an amateur photographer myself. I have encountered many such episodes of defensive opposition to people being photographed in public. No one likes that nowadays. They feel it is a violation of their right to privacy. I believe they are right. Just because they are in a public venue doesn't mean they are surrendering their right to privacy. Imagine how people really feel about public surveillance cameras on every street.
Remember, parents by nature always fear the worst case scenario when it comes to their kids. Child pornography, pedophilia, and child abduction are always going to be the first thing a parent suspects when a stranger takes unsolicited photos of their children at play. Even if the event is as innocent as it was with you.
My friend! In today's world, parents have enough to worry about. Please exercise a little discretion and realize the fears of parents. I'm sure that if informed about your intentions prior to the shooting, they would have happily cooperated. Don't give up the good fight, my friend. Whatever you do, don't give up your faith in your fellow man. Most of all, don't allow yourself to get that upset again. We need you in the good fight! DAM
Palindromedary ~ Of course you are right about that. But what you say that makes the most sense is:
Quote Palindromedary:Constantly giving our government the benefit of the doubt will keep us all from knowing what really happened on 911. The real perps will walk the streets to do it again and again. They will continue to get stronger...more powerful...and invincible.
Like I said before on this blog, once a criminal gets away with a crime they always come back to outdo themselves. That is why I automatically decided to vote for Obama when he stated he would investigate the Bush Administration for war crimes. Regardless as to whether or not 911 was an inside job or not, there is ample evidence to show that the Bush Administration lied this country into an illegal war. Their intentional avoidance of the warnings allowed 911 to happen. This is fact. The previous Administration is guilty of Treason on many counts. So was the Clinton Administration, the Reagan Administration, and the Nixon Administration. For that matter so was the Johnson Administration in the Gulf of Tonkin and so was the Roosevelt Administration in Pearl Harbor. One thing leads to another and if unchecked you end up with a 911 and two unnecessary, illegal wars. We the People who swallow the B.S. and lie to ourselves have no one else to blame when the crimes get bigger and badder. No, we have nothing good to look forward to in this country. Only more of the same. Do something about it; or, learn to profit from it. Otherwise, just get used to it. That's my two cents.
Sounds like a democracy to me. That is, to state that "no matter what I say it will make no difference". How else could one feel when their vote is only one of 200 million or whatever the number of registered voters is.
DAnneMarc: Of course you are right about this Mark talking to his mother example may not really amount to much...and can really be chalked up as merely slightly odd...but nothing more. And of course, in a court of law, when someone is being tried for murder...they'd never use such oddities to prove the guy guilty...would they? And then when the prosecutor presents all of the other oddities and non-sequiturs and holes in the defendant's story..including eyewitness accounts..video and audio evidence..put together with motive, means, and opportunity...well...they are going to hang the guy for sure. But too big to fail..especially when you own most of the major news media propaganda machines...means that you can manipulate the jury and blackmail or threaten the judge and the prosecutor to turn their heads and look the other way while the perp walks back into the streets to do it again, and again. Little clues add up to evidence. Constantly giving our government the benefit of the doubt will keep us all from knowing what really happened on 911. The real perps will walk the streets to do it again and again. They will continue to get stronger...more powerful...and invincible. Yes, we can listen to the clues, reject the ones that just are too weak or just don't fit and not reject the ones that are more plausible.
Quote Palindromedary:Daniel Lewin, founder of Akamai, was a former member of the Israel Defense Force Sayeret Matkal, Israel’s most successful Special Operations unit. And it was alleged that he was shot or stabbed on flight 77 by Satam Al Suqami....the guy whose passport was found...the magic passport that survived when nothing else did. Someone like this couldn't have taken on an attacker with a box cutter?
But it was later postulated that Al Suqami was seated behind Daniel Lewin (now just how convenient is that? sounds confabulated to me..did the hijackers know that they sat behind a former Sayeret Matkal soldier?) and when he tried to get up to stop the hijacking, he was cut on the throat from behind (well, it sounds more plausible anyway).
Now that is quite an interesting mix of facts, theories and speculation. However, no matter how you slice that sandwich, the lettuce falls all over the place. Changing facts that only lead to more questions are a great cause for concern. You are still left with the question, if the hijackers knew who they were sitting behind, who in the Airline arranged for that convenient juxtaposition. Now thats a tasty bit of conspiracy facts! Bravo, Palindromedary! Bravo!! By the way, no, I don't believe any of these young jokers could have overpowered this ex commando. Maybe with a gun, or by surprise only. What a huge hole in the official story.
Quote Palindromedary:I guess I am start to use mixed metasploits here...so I'd better get some rest to recover. ;-}
Same here, buddy. It's been educational and fun. Thanks, and have a great Sunday/Mothersday ;-}
DAnneMarc: Yes, I know there is a lot of stuff out there that may just be garbage...and there is a whole lot of other stuff that is totally insane for sure. Just because I post some of this stuff doesn't mean that I absolutely believe in all of it...just that they are ideas that may have some merit...maybe not. I have, so far I think, avoided posting things originating from web sites like Rense.com or Alex Jones web sites although they can provide leads to their sources that sometimes originate from more valid and believable sources.
Yeah, I know what you mean...if you completely tow the line and regurgitate the official conspiracy theory...no matter how many holes it has in it ...you are safe from ridicule from people who think they are saner than you. The 911 thumpers want you to believe their official dogma and everyone else is condemned to burn in nano-thermite hell. The trick is to do what the Conversos did when they were persecuted...while you are getting your feet looked at...just pretend that you believe in the official conspiracy theory and you will have nothing to worry about. Just don't refuse to eat a pork sandwich if they offer it to you! I guess I am start to use mixed metasploits here...so I'd better get some rest to recover. ;-}
Palindromedary ~ Concerning Mark Bingham. If there is proof that his obituary was prepared by CNN and AP 13 days prior to 911 that is a big screw up and the evidence--if, indeed, it exists--should be shared immediately. If not, it is more hearsay--let it go.
As far as the call with him identifying himself as, "This is Mark Bingham, your son." is concerned--yes it is cause for suspicion. Very unusual. However, I happen to know from personal experience that the name Mark is almost as common as the name John; even, in one family. You could have a John Sr. and John Jr. for instance. There might also be an uncle John, or a cousin John. It is also common to have friends of the family with the same first name. His mother could also have been hard of hearing and confuse her son's voice with others frequently. Unusual, yes; but unbelievable, no.
And guess who founded Akamai, a successful computer company**, which has also been tied in with Sayeret Matkal "a deep penetration unit that has been involved in assassinations, the theft of foreign signals intelligence materials, and the theft and destruction of foreign nuclear weaponry. It is best known for the 1976 rescue of 106 passengers at Entebbe Airport in Uganda.
Daniel Lewin, founder of Akamai, was a former member of the Israel Defense Force Sayeret Matkal, Israel’s most successful Special Operations unit. And it was alleged that he was shot or stabbed on flight 77 by Satam Al Suqami....the guy whose passport was found...the magic passport that survived when nothing else did. Someone like this couldn't have taken on an attacker with a box cutter?
"FAA and American Airline officials will later deny the gun story and suggest that Lewin is probably stabbed to death instead. [Washington Post, 3/2/2002; United Press International, 3/6/2002]"...yeah, stabbed to death with a box cutter...uh..huh!!
But it was later postulated that Al Suqami was seated behind Daniel Lewin (now just how convenient is that? sounds confabulated to me..did the hijackers know that they sat behind a former Sayeret Matkal soldier?) and when he tried to get up to stop the hijacking, he was cut on the throat from behind (well, it sounds more plausible anyway). At least, that's the newest story I've heard. It would be pretty hard to "stab" someone with a box cutter from the front. And I just can't imagine that there weren't some former high school or college football jocks or other brave all-Americans who would have reacted to that kind of violence. What? they just sat there while some Arab kills a guy with a box cutter? Oh, but we are told that that is what happened on flight 93...brave American's testosterone finally kicks in so that we could have some heroes to distract us from the 3 other planes that didn't have any? It all sounds contrived!
The company was founded in 1998 by Daniel M. Lewin (then a graduate student at MIT) and MIT applied mathematics professor Tom Leighton, together with Jonathan Seelig and Randall Kaplan.[5] Lewin was killed aboard American Airlines Flight 11, which crashed in the September 11 attacks of 2001. Leighton currently serves as Akamai's CEO.
That was interesting the way Joe raised the same concerns I did. However, I don't know if you read all the comments. On of the commenters claims to have witnessed a high speed airline crash and described the crash scene as being littered with shoes with feet still inside and wallets. All not affected by the crash or the ensuing fire. He says he's not surprised to hear someone found a passport on the street of the WTC crash. I'd have to see such an event myself to swallow that story though.
Palindromedary ~ If you could please, I'd appreciate if we could limit the 911 talk to the facts. I'm already a laughing stock amongst the orthopedic community in Orange County. I'd prefer not to spread the giggles and smirks to the gastrointestinal and cardiology communities as well. I may never again be able to get sick or to enter into a hospital down there. Besides, if Ken Ware ever gets a hold of me I may need immediate attention at one of those fine facilities.
DAnneMarc: Here's one you might be interested in..
Quote article:
A German security consultant, who's also a commercial pilot, has demonstrated tools he says could be used to hijack an airplane remotely, using just an Android phone.
Of course, they didn't have Androids back in 2001 but I bet they (we're not just talking about hackers here) had all the latest technology available to them). Like, not everyone can get a hold of nano-thermite..but powerful people in the government sure could have. Regular thermite..not a problem...nano-thermite..a problem.
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Here is a 2003 business-related article about airphones and cell phones that has nothing to do with 911, directly, but makes a statement that indicates that cell phones and/or wifi was only useful at either end of air travel but not at 35,000 feet. (They did have airphones, though, and this 2003 article talks about how the airlines spent a lot of bucks on the airphones that nobody wanted to use because they were charging big bucks for placing calls.) If cell phones had worked in the air...people would have known about it, and despite airline warnings about not using them, they would have anyway and the secret would have been out of the bag...everyone would have sneaked calls in flight with their cell phones.( I remember even trying this once with my cell phone and it didn't work.) But this didn't happen because cell phones didn't work at altitudes above 1,000 feet in the air.
Quote article:
Wifi is like the cell phone, only useful at either end of travel,
One caller from the hijacked planes said that he was calling from his cell phone in the restroom. How could he be using his cell phone from the restroom when cell phones don't work from 30,000 feet in the air? I don't think they put airphones in the restrooms back then. They may have had them at the backs of the seats but not in the restrooms. So the call was meant to say "cell phone" and not "airphone".
And here is a good read: It is an alternative theory of what happened...Don't know if I necessarily adhere to this yet...haven't read it all yet.
As if the idea that someone would call up their mom and have to say this is first and last name? And further say that "it was her son"...sounds very strange doesn't it?
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There is a rather large blunder on the part of CNN & the AP Press; Mark Binghams Exif/IPTC data shows as 8/30/2001. Some 13 days before 9/11, complete with a working bio and obituary, all carefully prepared, or in this case, not so carefully prepared some two weeks before 9/11! It is no wonder that CNN went removing so many hundreds of pictures from their CNN Memorial page, only weeks after breaking the Mike Rivero/John Wenckus story. Mark Binghams picture being one of them.
Palindromedary ~ Well, that was in interesting read. The repeater hypothesis blows the phony phone call theory out of the water. It makes too much sense that business men would carry such a device for emergency phone calls.
However, tell me more about that pristine passport; or, "Magic Passport," if you will. That piece of evidence I find unbelievable. There's no way I'm going to swallow that a passport flew out of the pocket--or luggage--of one of the hijackers, through the flaming fuselage of the airplane, gallons of ignited jet fuel, through the inferno of the top of the world trade center and landed undamaged on the street below. I don't believe it for a second. What an insult to the intelligence of the American people. Black boxes get disintegrated; passport survives. You gotta be kidding me!
Palindromedary ~ Your monetary fears are well founded. I too am concerned. This country has already experienced the sting of organized financial institutional crime in many ways and in grand scales. The majority of the criminals go without prosecution. Whenever a criminal gets away with a crime they always come back and try to outdo their previous deed. They will continue till caught. It is only a matter of time.
I feel the only way to protect ourselves is with diversifying our resources. Do not rely soley on banks, Don't put all your eggs in the same basket. Spread them around. As the saying goes, you can steal some of the money some of the time but you can't steal it all. Protect yourself with diversification. It is the only way.
Palindromedary ~ Had to reread your 911 post a couple of times to wrap my head around what you are saying. If I understand correctly, you're saying the phone calls from the plane were phony? Not possible with 2001 cell phone technology? I always wondered how the calls got recorded. Usually, if your loved one is in trouble, the last thing you think about is recording their call for help. Maybe they used the planes phone? No, the news did say cell phones. And why would hijackers allow any mayday calls that could jeopardize the mission? If so, why didn't they do it themselves with the cockpit radio? Turn off the planes radio and ask passengers to use cell phones? Doesn't make sense. Unless...
Unless the whole hijacking scenario was bogus. Perhaps that remote control technology you mentioned was the only real 'hijacker' involved. Perhaps all the real passengers--including the pilots and the patsy hijackers--had no clue as to what was happening until the last moment of rapid descent. Perhaps the unaccounted for 'black boxes' were full of discussions in the cockpit as to what was wrong with the planes controls and why the radio wasn't working. That would certainly explain why despite the accounts of eyewitnesses the 'black boxes' were not 'officially' found and yet a pristine passport was.
Wow Palindromedary, your facts do fit the events better than the 'official' story. That passport is the really hard piece of the puzzle to swallow; yet, in and of itself, it certainly has the footprint of a Government cover-up. Remember that magic, pristine bullet that conveniently rolled off the gurney of Texas Governor Connally at the Park Memorial Hospital emergency room just after the assassination of President Kennedy? For anyone not familiar with the 'magic bullet theory' here is a summary from wikipedia:
THE MAGIC BULLET THEORY
Quote Wikipedia: According to the Single Bullet Theory, a three-centimeter (1.2")-long copper-jacketed lead-core 6.5-millimeter rifle bullet fired from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository passed through President Kennedy’s neck and Governor Connally’s chest and wrist and embedded itself in the Governor’s thigh. If so, this bullet traversed 15 layers of clothing, 7 layers of skin, and approximately 15 inches of tissue, struck a necktie knot, removed 4 inches of rib, and shattered a radius bone. The bullet was found on a gurney in the corridor at the Parkland Memorial Hospital, in Dallas, after the assassination. The Warren Commission found that this gurney was the one that had borne Governor Connally.[3] This bullet became a key Commission exhibit, identified as CE 399. Its copper jacket was completely intact. While the bullet's nose appeared normal, the tail was compressed laterally on one side.
In its conclusion, the Warren Commission found "persuasive evidence from the experts" that a single bullet caused the President's neck wound and all the wounds in Governor Connally.[4] It acknowledged that there was a "difference of opinion" among members of the Commission "as to this probability", but stated that the theory was not essential to its conclusions and that all members had no doubt that all shots were fired from the sixth floor window of the Depository building.
Oh, how that passport reminds me of this theory.
Yes, Palindromedary, you never cease to amaze me as the fountain of information you are. I would be hard pressed to dispute your data. I'll let our friend Ken worry about that. For now I conclude:
Warren Commission + 911 Commission = B. S. Commission
DAnneMarc: Sounds like some very good advice. I guess there is a certain amount of risk in just about everything we do...just can't get away from it. Some things are, traditionally, riskier than other things and one often reaps the rewards for taking a chance. But, of course, they can often lose...big time. Putting ones money in a bank savings or checking account that was FDIC insured was considered about the safest thing one could do. And, of course, there was a limit on how much FDIC would insure in any one account. But the FDIC just would not be able to handle any really big banks going under.
I wonder if we are not being set up for a really, really big scam...not done by some illusive Russian hackers..or Chinese hackers..although they may be used as patsies to blame while the real big criminals, the banks themselves, empty our accounts and blame it on those scarey foreigners. I have no doubt that rogue hackers are leaching money out of some accounts but that could be used as a prelude to more organized leaching while pointing fingers somewhere else. After all, they played that game already when they tried to blame 911 totally on 19 Muslim hijackers and OBL. If these ruthless bastards, the real treasonous powers within our own country in collaboration, perhaps, with other countries like Israel, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia, could pull off 911 and get many people to believe it was someone else then they may very well go for hijacking all of our bank accounts and get people to believe it was someone else who did it.
And one might try to find safe refuge in some other institutions other than banks...but, really, they are just as vulnerable...if they have electronic funds transfers...and they all do. Remember the Savings and Loans scandal? They were also once believed to be a great alternative to banks. And that was back when the big thieves, once caught, would pay the price...or at least some did. The big thieves today are doing their dastardly deeds right under the noses of those who are supposed to be protecting us. And they are thumbing their noses at us all. They know that no one has the balls to prosecute them. We are headed in to uncharted territory of thick as thieves reality. A new Twilight Zone of financial horrors that will result in MegadeAths☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠.
Palindromedary ~ Nice! People making a profitable career with Government jobs out of violating the Constitutional rights of our citizens. If it wasn't true it would sound like a joke. What kind of a pathetic example of fascism have we become? Where is that Constitutional Law Professor we put into the highest office to fix this nonsense? No, my friend, no house so decisively divided against itself can stand for very long. These fascist Patsy's just aren't going to get it until they are escorted up to a guillotine. Use it or lose it.
The ATM heists are a different concern. Good reason not to keep substantial amounts of money in a bank. (Of course, the best reason not to do so is the crappy interest banks pay.) Nevertheless, never put more in a bank that the FDIC can cover. Besides, leaving more money than that lying around in a bank account actually costs you money--did you know that? You actually lose money saving it in a bank. Yes, my friend! That's the bank alone robbing you independent of any hackers. The simple fact is that bank interest does not keep up with the increase of the cost of living; or, the devaluation of the dollar. Therefore, either way, keep money in a bank and lose money.
I suggest using your local bank as a convenient safe and for its ATM, on line, and checking services only. Don't try to consolidate a family fortune in a bank. Bad idea! Just keep your loose change, pocket money, and a small emergency fund available. Put everything else in Treasury Bills, IRAs, or high yield low risk, diversified Mutual Funds. Don't put all your eggs in one basket--diversify as much as possible. Consult with several good investment advisers. Set it and forget it. Remember, a watched pot never boils. The market goes up and down. Don't expect to reach your goals over night; rather, look 10-20 years down the road. Keep all your paper statements. Happy investing!
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MMmmNachos: And by the way you said that we still play into the two party system at election time. That's not correct...I voted outside of the two party system the last time. I didn't get suckered into falling for that scare tactic that the Democrats was trying to use to get us to vote Democrat again. Yes, Romney was terrible...but at least he wasn't lying through his teeth about the things Obama was. Obama's lies the first time was enough to convince me that he wouldn't be any different the second time around.
MMmmNachos: Well, I agree with most of what you said except this:
Quote MMmmNachos:
For me this is what matters most, and it frustraits me that others, i.e you and Ken Ware - get so caught up in moot debates about electronically Hijacked planes, yet still play into the two party (really one party; Wall Street) system come election time.
I'd say Ken's side of the argument is "moot". But, aside from that...hey...we're having fun. Ken likes to get mad and call people names and pretend he is tough. He's having fun. I'm having fun because I am laughing at him.
You don't really think that anything anyone, including me, has to say here is going to even matter? And it seems like we are all saying the same things over and over and over again, anyway. What does it really matter that we repeatedly attack the Republicans over the same kinds of things?
We may as well be discussing "Who Killed JFK" or for that matter "Who Killed Cock Robin". It is just not going to matter? You are right of course that taking a course of action that will hurt the ruling elite in their pockets will speak much louder than words. Taking to the streets en masse will matter way more than our b1tching about things. Some of us are not as young as we used to be and some may not be physically able to take to the streets. And all they have, in order to feel they matter, is by expressing their views. Hopefully they are helping to formulate in the reader's minds an inspiration to do more than just type stuff. But, I have a feeling that most of the young are more turned on with communications like LMFAO and LOL on their cell phones than the tomes that some of us are prone to type on a blog.
I also do not suffer the illusion that what I, or anyone else, says about 911 is going to make any difference either. So many people have their minds already made up and locked into place using the official conspiracy theory as truth that they will continue to see anyone else with a different theory as conspiracy nuts. No matter what kind of evidence or solid reasoning behind the arguments people have already been psyched out to believe in the official conspiracy theory. They still trust the government even after all that has happened to them over the years. I guess you just can't fix stupid!
So, what it really amounts to is that no matter what we are saying...some of us are doing it because it is fun. They are certainly not paying us...not all of us anyway...there are those paid shills and sock puppets paid by entities wanting to ensure that there is enough confusion to sway people away from anything but the official line. Just like THEY own the major news media...THEY have to influence what people read on the internet. They have to manipulate people so they don't get the truth or at least instill doubt in their minds about people learning the truth.
Those with all the gold have to use lots of psyops propaganda in order to ensure that the hordes of downtrodden don't get uppity one day and decide to take it all away from them by force. They know that they have been overly piggish but they are so greedy they will push us to a breaking point.
Their game is to keep us confused and doubtful and very scared of challenging them. They try to keep us afraid of and distracted by the boogey man terrorist. It used to be the Soviet Union, then various other boogey men. One day, when people see through their terrorist boogey man threats...they'll turn to invaders from outer space! Reagan already tried that.
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Loren Bliss ~ I have read your Friday post about the traumatic encounter with the woman in the park. I sincerely hope you are feeling better. However, I must say, and I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but times have seriously changed since you were a commercial photographer. You should bare in mind in the future that in our modern society children are particular targets for all manner of predator. Personally, I think the woman you encountered displayed unreasonable aggression toward you. On the other hand, the instinctual response to protect ones child will bring that type of aggression out.
Loren, what I would suggest you try in the future is to approach the adults in the playground before you even unload your camera equipment. Offer them your card, introduce yourself, and explain to them what you are doing and what project you are working on. You might even want to bring a sample portfolio of your past work to help explain to them what you do. Only after receiving their blessing, go ahead and set up your camera equipment.
I too am an amateur photographer myself. I have encountered many such episodes of defensive opposition to people being photographed in public. No one likes that nowadays. They feel it is a violation of their right to privacy. I believe they are right. Just because they are in a public venue doesn't mean they are surrendering their right to privacy. Imagine how people really feel about public surveillance cameras on every street.
Remember, parents by nature always fear the worst case scenario when it comes to their kids. Child pornography, pedophilia, and child abduction are always going to be the first thing a parent suspects when a stranger takes unsolicited photos of their children at play. Even if the event is as innocent as it was with you.
My friend! In today's world, parents have enough to worry about. Please exercise a little discretion and realize the fears of parents. I'm sure that if informed about your intentions prior to the shooting, they would have happily cooperated. Don't give up the good fight, my friend. Whatever you do, don't give up your faith in your fellow man. Most of all, don't allow yourself to get that upset again. We need you in the good fight! DAM
Palindromedary ~ Of course you are right about that. But what you say that makes the most sense is:
Like I said before on this blog, once a criminal gets away with a crime they always come back to outdo themselves. That is why I automatically decided to vote for Obama when he stated he would investigate the Bush Administration for war crimes. Regardless as to whether or not 911 was an inside job or not, there is ample evidence to show that the Bush Administration lied this country into an illegal war. Their intentional avoidance of the warnings allowed 911 to happen. This is fact. The previous Administration is guilty of Treason on many counts. So was the Clinton Administration, the Reagan Administration, and the Nixon Administration. For that matter so was the Johnson Administration in the Gulf of Tonkin and so was the Roosevelt Administration in Pearl Harbor. One thing leads to another and if unchecked you end up with a 911 and two unnecessary, illegal wars. We the People who swallow the B.S. and lie to ourselves have no one else to blame when the crimes get bigger and badder. No, we have nothing good to look forward to in this country. Only more of the same. Do something about it; or, learn to profit from it. Otherwise, just get used to it. That's my two cents.
Sounds like a democracy to me. That is, to state that "no matter what I say it will make no difference". How else could one feel when their vote is only one of 200 million or whatever the number of registered voters is.
DAnneMarc: Of course you are right about this Mark talking to his mother example may not really amount to much...and can really be chalked up as merely slightly odd...but nothing more. And of course, in a court of law, when someone is being tried for murder...they'd never use such oddities to prove the guy guilty...would they? And then when the prosecutor presents all of the other oddities and non-sequiturs and holes in the defendant's story..including eyewitness accounts..video and audio evidence..put together with motive, means, and opportunity...well...they are going to hang the guy for sure. But too big to fail..especially when you own most of the major news media propaganda machines...means that you can manipulate the jury and blackmail or threaten the judge and the prosecutor to turn their heads and look the other way while the perp walks back into the streets to do it again, and again. Little clues add up to evidence. Constantly giving our government the benefit of the doubt will keep us all from knowing what really happened on 911. The real perps will walk the streets to do it again and again. They will continue to get stronger...more powerful...and invincible. Yes, we can listen to the clues, reject the ones that just are too weak or just don't fit and not reject the ones that are more plausible.
Now that is quite an interesting mix of facts, theories and speculation. However, no matter how you slice that sandwich, the lettuce falls all over the place. Changing facts that only lead to more questions are a great cause for concern. You are still left with the question, if the hijackers knew who they were sitting behind, who in the Airline arranged for that convenient juxtaposition. Now thats a tasty bit of conspiracy facts! Bravo, Palindromedary! Bravo!! By the way, no, I don't believe any of these young jokers could have overpowered this ex commando. Maybe with a gun, or by surprise only. What a huge hole in the official story.
Same here, buddy. It's been educational and fun. Thanks, and have a great Sunday/Mothersday ;-}
DAnneMarc: Yes, I know there is a lot of stuff out there that may just be garbage...and there is a whole lot of other stuff that is totally insane for sure. Just because I post some of this stuff doesn't mean that I absolutely believe in all of it...just that they are ideas that may have some merit...maybe not. I have, so far I think, avoided posting things originating from web sites like Rense.com or Alex Jones web sites although they can provide leads to their sources that sometimes originate from more valid and believable sources.
Yeah, I know what you mean...if you completely tow the line and regurgitate the official conspiracy theory...no matter how many holes it has in it ...you are safe from ridicule from people who think they are saner than you. The 911 thumpers want you to believe their official dogma and everyone else is condemned to burn in nano-thermite hell. The trick is to do what the Conversos did when they were persecuted...while you are getting your feet looked at...just pretend that you believe in the official conspiracy theory and you will have nothing to worry about. Just don't refuse to eat a pork sandwich if they offer it to you! I guess I am start to use mixed metasploits here...so I'd better get some rest to recover. ;-}
Palindromedary ~ Concerning Mark Bingham. If there is proof that his obituary was prepared by CNN and AP 13 days prior to 911 that is a big screw up and the evidence--if, indeed, it exists--should be shared immediately. If not, it is more hearsay--let it go.
As far as the call with him identifying himself as, "This is Mark Bingham, your son." is concerned--yes it is cause for suspicion. Very unusual. However, I happen to know from personal experience that the name Mark is almost as common as the name John; even, in one family. You could have a John Sr. and John Jr. for instance. There might also be an uncle John, or a cousin John. It is also common to have friends of the family with the same first name. His mother could also have been hard of hearing and confuse her son's voice with others frequently. Unusual, yes; but unbelievable, no.
And guess who founded Akamai, a successful computer company**, which has also been tied in with Sayeret Matkal "a deep penetration unit that has been involved in assassinations, the theft of foreign signals intelligence materials, and the theft and destruction of foreign nuclear weaponry. It is best known for the 1976 rescue of 106 passengers at Entebbe Airport in Uganda.
Daniel Lewin, founder of Akamai, was a former member of the Israel Defense Force Sayeret Matkal, Israel’s most successful Special Operations unit. And it was alleged that he was shot or stabbed on flight 77 by Satam Al Suqami....the guy whose passport was found...the magic passport that survived when nothing else did. Someone like this couldn't have taken on an attacker with a box cutter?
"FAA and American Airline officials will later deny the gun story and suggest that Lewin is probably stabbed to death instead. [Washington Post, 3/2/2002; United Press International, 3/6/2002]"...yeah, stabbed to death with a box cutter...uh..huh!!
But it was later postulated that Al Suqami was seated behind Daniel Lewin (now just how convenient is that? sounds confabulated to me..did the hijackers know that they sat behind a former Sayeret Matkal soldier?) and when he tried to get up to stop the hijacking, he was cut on the throat from behind (well, it sounds more plausible anyway). At least, that's the newest story I've heard. It would be pretty hard to "stab" someone with a box cutter from the front. And I just can't imagine that there weren't some former high school or college football jocks or other brave all-Americans who would have reacted to that kind of violence. What? they just sat there while some Arab kills a guy with a box cutter? Oh, but we are told that that is what happened on flight 93...brave American's testosterone finally kicks in so that we could have some heroes to distract us from the 3 other planes that didn't have any? It all sounds contrived!
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a091101daniellewin#a09110...
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**Akamai's network is one of the world's largest distributed-computing platforms, responsible for serving between 15 and 20 percent of all web traffic.[4]
The company was founded in 1998 by Daniel M. Lewin (then a graduate student at MIT) and MIT applied mathematics professor Tom Leighton, together with Jonathan Seelig and Randall Kaplan.[5] Lewin was killed aboard American Airlines Flight 11, which crashed in the September 11 attacks of 2001. Leighton currently serves as Akamai's CEO.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akamai_Technologies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_M._Lewin
Palindromedary ~ Concerning that "Magic Passport" link you posted:
http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2008/05/20/suqamis-magic-911-passport-three-...
That was interesting the way Joe raised the same concerns I did. However, I don't know if you read all the comments. On of the commenters claims to have witnessed a high speed airline crash and described the crash scene as being littered with shoes with feet still inside and wallets. All not affected by the crash or the ensuing fire. He says he's not surprised to hear someone found a passport on the street of the WTC crash. I'd have to see such an event myself to swallow that story though.
Palindromedary ~ If you could please, I'd appreciate if we could limit the 911 talk to the facts. I'm already a laughing stock amongst the orthopedic community in Orange County. I'd prefer not to spread the giggles and smirks to the gastrointestinal and cardiology communities as well. I may never again be able to get sick or to enter into a hospital down there. Besides, if Ken Ware ever gets a hold of me I may need immediate attention at one of those fine facilities.
The "official magic bullet theory" and the "official magic passport theory" or how to plant incriminating evidence and get away with it....
http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2008/05/20/suqamis-magic-911-passport-three-...
DAnneMarc: Here's one you might be interested in..
http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/11/tech/mobile/phone-hijack-plane
Of course, they didn't have Androids back in 2001 but I bet they (we're not just talking about hackers here) had all the latest technology available to them). Like, not everyone can get a hold of nano-thermite..but powerful people in the government sure could have. Regular thermite..not a problem...nano-thermite..a problem.
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Here is a 2003 business-related article about airphones and cell phones that has nothing to do with 911, directly, but makes a statement that indicates that cell phones and/or wifi was only useful at either end of air travel but not at 35,000 feet. (They did have airphones, though, and this 2003 article talks about how the airlines spent a lot of bucks on the airphones that nobody wanted to use because they were charging big bucks for placing calls.) If cell phones had worked in the air...people would have known about it, and despite airline warnings about not using them, they would have anyway and the secret would have been out of the bag...everyone would have sneaked calls in flight with their cell phones.( I remember even trying this once with my cell phone and it didn't work.) But this didn't happen because cell phones didn't work at altitudes above 1,000 feet in the air.
http://www.shirky.com/writings/permanet.html
One caller from the hijacked planes said that he was calling from his cell phone in the restroom. How could he be using his cell phone from the restroom when cell phones don't work from 30,000 feet in the air? I don't think they put airphones in the restrooms back then. They may have had them at the backs of the seats but not in the restrooms. So the call was meant to say "cell phone" and not "airphone".
And here is a good read: It is an alternative theory of what happened...Don't know if I necessarily adhere to this yet...haven't read it all yet.
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/operation_pearl.htm
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"Hello, mom! This is Mark Bingham, your son"
As if the idea that someone would call up their mom and have to say this is first and last name? And further say that "it was her son"...sounds very strange doesn't it?
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There is a rather large blunder on the part of CNN & the AP Press; Mark Binghams Exif/IPTC data shows as 8/30/2001. Some 13 days before 9/11, complete with a working bio and obituary, all carefully prepared, or in this case, not so carefully prepared some two weeks before 9/11! It is no wonder that CNN went removing so many hundreds of pictures from their CNN Memorial page, only weeks after breaking the Mike Rivero/John Wenckus story. Mark Binghams picture being one of them.
http://letsrollforums.com/fl-93-mark-bingham-t22141.html?s=4506ec43bdb80...
Palindromedary ~ Well, that was in interesting read. The repeater hypothesis blows the phony phone call theory out of the water. It makes too much sense that business men would carry such a device for emergency phone calls.
However, tell me more about that pristine passport; or, "Magic Passport," if you will. That piece of evidence I find unbelievable. There's no way I'm going to swallow that a passport flew out of the pocket--or luggage--of one of the hijackers, through the flaming fuselage of the airplane, gallons of ignited jet fuel, through the inferno of the top of the world trade center and landed undamaged on the street below. I don't believe it for a second. What an insult to the intelligence of the American people. Black boxes get disintegrated; passport survives. You gotta be kidding me!
Palindromedary ~ Your monetary fears are well founded. I too am concerned. This country has already experienced the sting of organized financial institutional crime in many ways and in grand scales. The majority of the criminals go without prosecution. Whenever a criminal gets away with a crime they always come back and try to outdo their previous deed. They will continue till caught. It is only a matter of time.
I feel the only way to protect ourselves is with diversifying our resources. Do not rely soley on banks, Don't put all your eggs in the same basket. Spread them around. As the saying goes, you can steal some of the money some of the time but you can't steal it all. Protect yourself with diversification. It is the only way.
Palindromedary ~ Had to reread your 911 post a couple of times to wrap my head around what you are saying. If I understand correctly, you're saying the phone calls from the plane were phony? Not possible with 2001 cell phone technology? I always wondered how the calls got recorded. Usually, if your loved one is in trouble, the last thing you think about is recording their call for help. Maybe they used the planes phone? No, the news did say cell phones. And why would hijackers allow any mayday calls that could jeopardize the mission? If so, why didn't they do it themselves with the cockpit radio? Turn off the planes radio and ask passengers to use cell phones? Doesn't make sense. Unless...
Unless the whole hijacking scenario was bogus. Perhaps that remote control technology you mentioned was the only real 'hijacker' involved. Perhaps all the real passengers--including the pilots and the patsy hijackers--had no clue as to what was happening until the last moment of rapid descent. Perhaps the unaccounted for 'black boxes' were full of discussions in the cockpit as to what was wrong with the planes controls and why the radio wasn't working. That would certainly explain why despite the accounts of eyewitnesses the 'black boxes' were not 'officially' found and yet a pristine passport was.
Wow Palindromedary, your facts do fit the events better than the 'official' story. That passport is the really hard piece of the puzzle to swallow; yet, in and of itself, it certainly has the footprint of a Government cover-up. Remember that magic, pristine bullet that conveniently rolled off the gurney of Texas Governor Connally at the Park Memorial Hospital emergency room just after the assassination of President Kennedy? For anyone not familiar with the 'magic bullet theory' here is a summary from wikipedia:
Yes, Palindromedary, you never cease to amaze me as the fountain of information you are. I would be hard pressed to dispute your data. I'll let our friend Ken worry about that. For now I conclude:
Warren Commission + 911 Commission = B. S. Commission
Truly a National disgrace!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_bullet_theory
DAnneMarc: Sounds like some very good advice. I guess there is a certain amount of risk in just about everything we do...just can't get away from it. Some things are, traditionally, riskier than other things and one often reaps the rewards for taking a chance. But, of course, they can often lose...big time. Putting ones money in a bank savings or checking account that was FDIC insured was considered about the safest thing one could do. And, of course, there was a limit on how much FDIC would insure in any one account. But the FDIC just would not be able to handle any really big banks going under.
I wonder if we are not being set up for a really, really big scam...not done by some illusive Russian hackers..or Chinese hackers..although they may be used as patsies to blame while the real big criminals, the banks themselves, empty our accounts and blame it on those scarey foreigners. I have no doubt that rogue hackers are leaching money out of some accounts but that could be used as a prelude to more organized leaching while pointing fingers somewhere else. After all, they played that game already when they tried to blame 911 totally on 19 Muslim hijackers and OBL. If these ruthless bastards, the real treasonous powers within our own country in collaboration, perhaps, with other countries like Israel, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia, could pull off 911 and get many people to believe it was someone else then they may very well go for hijacking all of our bank accounts and get people to believe it was someone else who did it.
And one might try to find safe refuge in some other institutions other than banks...but, really, they are just as vulnerable...if they have electronic funds transfers...and they all do. Remember the Savings and Loans scandal? They were also once believed to be a great alternative to banks. And that was back when the big thieves, once caught, would pay the price...or at least some did. The big thieves today are doing their dastardly deeds right under the noses of those who are supposed to be protecting us. And they are thumbing their noses at us all. They know that no one has the balls to prosecute them. We are headed in to uncharted territory of thick as thieves reality. A new Twilight Zone of financial horrors that will result in MegadeAths☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠.
Palindromedary ~ Nice! People making a profitable career with Government jobs out of violating the Constitutional rights of our citizens. If it wasn't true it would sound like a joke. What kind of a pathetic example of fascism have we become? Where is that Constitutional Law Professor we put into the highest office to fix this nonsense? No, my friend, no house so decisively divided against itself can stand for very long. These fascist Patsy's just aren't going to get it until they are escorted up to a guillotine. Use it or lose it.
The ATM heists are a different concern. Good reason not to keep substantial amounts of money in a bank. (Of course, the best reason not to do so is the crappy interest banks pay.) Nevertheless, never put more in a bank that the FDIC can cover. Besides, leaving more money than that lying around in a bank account actually costs you money--did you know that? You actually lose money saving it in a bank. Yes, my friend! That's the bank alone robbing you independent of any hackers. The simple fact is that bank interest does not keep up with the increase of the cost of living; or, the devaluation of the dollar. Therefore, either way, keep money in a bank and lose money.
I suggest using your local bank as a convenient safe and for its ATM, on line, and checking services only. Don't try to consolidate a family fortune in a bank. Bad idea! Just keep your loose change, pocket money, and a small emergency fund available. Put everything else in Treasury Bills, IRAs, or high yield low risk, diversified Mutual Funds. Don't put all your eggs in one basket--diversify as much as possible. Consult with several good investment advisers. Set it and forget it. Remember, a watched pot never boils. The market goes up and down. Don't expect to reach your goals over night; rather, look 10-20 years down the road. Keep all your paper statements. Happy investing!
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MMmmNachos: And by the way you said that we still play into the two party system at election time. That's not correct...I voted outside of the two party system the last time. I didn't get suckered into falling for that scare tactic that the Democrats was trying to use to get us to vote Democrat again. Yes, Romney was terrible...but at least he wasn't lying through his teeth about the things Obama was. Obama's lies the first time was enough to convince me that he wouldn't be any different the second time around.
MMmmNachos: Well, I agree with most of what you said except this:
I'd say Ken's side of the argument is "moot". But, aside from that...hey...we're having fun. Ken likes to get mad and call people names and pretend he is tough. He's having fun. I'm having fun because I am laughing at him.
You don't really think that anything anyone, including me, has to say here is going to even matter? And it seems like we are all saying the same things over and over and over again, anyway. What does it really matter that we repeatedly attack the Republicans over the same kinds of things?
We may as well be discussing "Who Killed JFK" or for that matter "Who Killed Cock Robin". It is just not going to matter? You are right of course that taking a course of action that will hurt the ruling elite in their pockets will speak much louder than words. Taking to the streets en masse will matter way more than our b1tching about things. Some of us are not as young as we used to be and some may not be physically able to take to the streets. And all they have, in order to feel they matter, is by expressing their views. Hopefully they are helping to formulate in the reader's minds an inspiration to do more than just type stuff. But, I have a feeling that most of the young are more turned on with communications like LMFAO and LOL on their cell phones than the tomes that some of us are prone to type on a blog.
I also do not suffer the illusion that what I, or anyone else, says about 911 is going to make any difference either. So many people have their minds already made up and locked into place using the official conspiracy theory as truth that they will continue to see anyone else with a different theory as conspiracy nuts. No matter what kind of evidence or solid reasoning behind the arguments people have already been psyched out to believe in the official conspiracy theory. They still trust the government even after all that has happened to them over the years. I guess you just can't fix stupid!
So, what it really amounts to is that no matter what we are saying...some of us are doing it because it is fun. They are certainly not paying us...not all of us anyway...there are those paid shills and sock puppets paid by entities wanting to ensure that there is enough confusion to sway people away from anything but the official line. Just like THEY own the major news media...THEY have to influence what people read on the internet. They have to manipulate people so they don't get the truth or at least instill doubt in their minds about people learning the truth.
Those with all the gold have to use lots of psyops propaganda in order to ensure that the hordes of downtrodden don't get uppity one day and decide to take it all away from them by force. They know that they have been overly piggish but they are so greedy they will push us to a breaking point.
Their game is to keep us confused and doubtful and very scared of challenging them. They try to keep us afraid of and distracted by the boogey man terrorist. It used to be the Soviet Union, then various other boogey men. One day, when people see through their terrorist boogey man threats...they'll turn to invaders from outer space! Reagan already tried that.