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  • Big tobacco is suing the FDA because they say - they're people!   14 years 6 days ago

    You really do need help. Where did you get from my post I was defending the cigarette industry. No I don't work for the cigarette industry, I've never smoked, in fact I detest smoking and those who do. I was pointing out the crazinest of you statement. A Psychopath calling someone a sociopath. Please get some help. There is a better world out here then the one you see.

  • W/ 1 out of every 5 children in America in poverty - do you think we still are in a recession or a great Republican depression?   14 years 6 days ago

    How can we call it anything else considering that a tax increase to even the Reagan years' level, would put us back on our feet and the republicans refuse to hear of it? As long as they have their millions and billions, nothing else matters to them. They are neurotic about it, obsessed with it, and to hell with everyone else. Alan Grayson had it right when he described their attitude/plan for health care: "Don't get sick. And if you do get sick, die quickly." It was too true for them to handle, but that same philosophy applies to everything else for them; no education, no public services or programs for the lower income citizens at their expense. And who cares if we die in poverty?

  • Big tobacco is suing the FDA because they say - they're people!   14 years 6 days ago

    Ok MaryMary, you're right: I went too far. Sorry. I was totally out of line. In other words, I'm not a psychopath because I am capable of accepting criticism and capable of admitting it when I'm wrong. So, when was the last time the cigarette industry was honest about what they do to people for a living? Or do you feel it's best to only criticize people who criticize the cigarette industry? Speaking of which, do you work for the cigarette industry?

    The way things are now, the people who run the cigarette industry get manicures to keep their hands looking nice and clean, and they eat in restaurants where the linen tablecloths are clean, and their cars are clean, their houses and lawns look so neat and nice. And yet in spite of all this "cleanliness," the stench of their pretense, the stench of the millions of deaths they are directly responsible for, the stench of the bribes they have given to congress to keep their poisonous products legal, the pain of the families of the people those corporate executives have killed... I guess I was just thinking it would be a bit of reality therapy if those sociopaths were forced to look at the dead bodies of their victims.

    But you're right, it would be totally unfair for those sociopaths to have to look at what they have done. The families of the dead should just suck it up and deal with it, and the sociopaths should just keep on reaping billions of dollars in profits and have no consequences whatsoever.

    Cigarettes killed my mother. She tried to quit, but those corporate sociopaths have spent millions of dollars making cigarettes so addictive that it's actually easier to quit heroin than to quit smoking cigarettes. My mother could not quit. So, she got horribly sick and then she died. It took a long time for her to waste away and die. I remember the sound of her coughing every morning, trying to get enough air into her lungs so she could get out of bed. I remember her sunken cheeks. I remember her falling down the stairs when she lost her balance because of the side-effects of the medications they put her on. But most of all, I remember how her mind and her personality went south because of the medications her doctors gave her. The corporate sociopaths who did that to my mother, do not have any of these memories of her, because they never met my mother. Killing my mother was simply a business decision for them: they wanted her money, and they killed her to get it. They don't care that she had a family. They don't care that before they nade her sick, she played the piano. All they care about is that before they killed her, they got her money.

    Those sociopaths could make money producing food, clothing, houses, or other consumer goods. They could make money providing services that people need. But no. Those sociopaths choose to make money killing people. Millions of long, slow, lingering, extremely painful, extremely expensive deaths. But I'm a psychopath for fantasizing- for joking about those sociopaths having to look at some of the many millions of people they have killed. I'm sorry if my fantasy/joke upset you. The sociopaths who killed my mother are not sorry. Do you see the difference?

  • It’s time to slam shut the revolving door on Capitol Hill – and bolt it closed...   14 years 6 days ago

    I think a movement to change the face of Congress is possible by employing something akin to peer pressure. We need to make people feel bad about not doing their civic duty by not voting. The key is that we are not asking for a lot of time or effort - just to vote. That simple. We shouldn't let people complain about anything wrong with our government without challenging them about their participation in the election process. Because complaining is what most people do these days, the point of voting as a responsibility is driven home. Again and again. Like Bush said, "Sometimes you gotta catapult the propaganda" in order for people to get the message. Isn't that what the Republicans do so well? It worked for smoking cessation and smoking bans. Let's try it out. No one gets past their first sentence of complaint without the question being asked.

  • It’s time to slam shut the revolving door on Capitol Hill – and bolt it closed...   14 years 6 days ago

    When the banks are begging to socialize massive losses again in a year or so due to the continued success of thwarting regulations, coupled with huge spending cuts, and the whole damn world is in a severe depression, we all need to ask Darrell & Peter, how proud they are of their efforts.

  • Big tobacco is suing the FDA because they say - they're people!   14 years 6 days ago

    I think you're right: every liberal is a lying hypocrit. The ONLY people who EVER tell the truth are the republicans, and they ALWAYS tell the truth. For instance, when Newt Ginrich said that he screwed around on all of his wifes because he loves his country. And of course Newt also said that God has forgiven him for screwing around on all of his wifes. (And presumably God has also forgiven Newt for serving his first wife (or was it his second wife? Or his third wife? It's hard to keep track of so many wives...) with divorce papers when she was in the hospital being treated for cancer. You have to love a guy like Newt, who can excuse anything that he does by saying that he only did it because he loves his country. But wait a minute: what was Newt's attitude toward Clinton when Clinton fooled around? Well, interestingly, Newt was outraged, simply and very loudly outraged at Clinton, and demanded that Clinton be impeached and never said a word about God forgiving Clinton. And yet somehow Newt can run for president while admitting that he has screwed around on his wives. But anyway, back to the main point: all republicans always tell the truth. So, can we presume that when Newt was screwing around on his wives, he told them, "Listen honey, I'm going to be back late tonight, I have to meet my girlfriend at the No-Tell Motel, for a night of torrid sex. I'll see you and the kids tomorrow, ok?" Yes, I'm sure that's what Newt told his wives. Because Newt, like all republicans, always tells the truth.

    So, now would you care to discuss the lies and hypocrisy of Bush and his brothers and their father, Dick Cheney, Wolfowitz, Mit Romney, Michelle Bachman, Sarah Palin, Tim Pawlenty, and the rest of their sociopathic fascist cohorts? Those flaming hypocrites who claim to be Christians and yet who ignore virtually everything that Jesus said? Who claim that abortion is awful because it ends lives and yet they like and even enjoy the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people whose only "crime" is that they like a different religion? So, are you a "Christian," too? (I only ask because if you're the same sort of Christian as the politicians you like, I'd better watch out or you'll kill me, which, of course, is exactly what Jesus would do.

  • Big tobacco is suing the FDA because they say - they're people!   14 years 6 days ago

    And you call the officers of cigarette corporations sociopaths! Corpses left rotting in the sun. You are a psychopath. Get help.

  • It’s time to slam shut the revolving door on Capitol Hill – and bolt it closed...   14 years 6 days ago

    Revolving Dooritis is a chronic symptom of all agencies, departments, branches,{ congress, courts, etc.} in effect the foxes are guarding the hen house.Corporations and Government are now one Big GMO. FDA is infiltrated by Monsanto, FCC infiltrated by Corporate media, EPA by big oil and big coal, Maybe the EPA should stand for the Energy Protection Agency, When I sit back and look at the depth of influence and control I get chills done my spine. The reason we have GMO's { Genetically Modified Organisms} in agriculture is due to Monsanto and the FDA having exchanged personnel, thus GMO's were allowed to be introduced as safe and the regulation process was by passed. The corporations have infected every crevice of Government. The American Legislative Exchange Council {Alec} conceives the Laws, the corporate sponsored Congress inacts the Laws, the corporate sponsored Judiciary protects the Laws. The Corporate media supports the entire process with propaganda and created news to promote the corporate agendas. The entire balance of our existing system has been shifted to an unsustainable entity"The Corporation." I doubt ALEC will write any legislation that would act as a door stop to this revolving door. One nation undivided with liberty and justice for the Corporation.

  • Transcript: Thom Hartmann: The Big Picture: Will Ronald McDonald be added to Mt Rushmore? 29 June '11   14 years 6 days ago

    Orlando, August 18, 2011: Rick Scott was at the Rosen Plaza in Orlando today at the CSUSA (Charter Schools USA) convention speaking on charter schools in Florida. Scott's body guards were in place, along with a small cluster of reporters providing soft questions for the Florida governor. The Internet(s) were repleat with NO information about this visit, nor anything about the convention itself on any website (including CSUSA's http://www.charterschoolsusa.com) within the first 5 pages of Google™ searches. As a result, Mr. Scott enjoyed an incident-free visit to the CSUSA convention, which took up the entire Orlando Rosen Plaza Grand Ballroom this morning. Local Orlando channels 9 and 13 were there to observe and record the interview. A brave Ch 9 reporter, Bianca Castro, asked a few tough questions of one of the representatives, only to receive a nice spin on how wonderful privatizing schools is for Florida. So it goes.

    All attending charter school representatives were dressed in matching shirts. It's great to have a lot of money for these things!

  • It’s time to slam shut the revolving door on Capitol Hill – and bolt it closed...   14 years 6 days ago

    As Thom has so ably demonstrated in his books, we are screwed and it is continually growing worse. We are now living in a managed democracy with systematized bribery and the blurring of government and business. Our only thriving populist movement is a reworked, billionaire-supported John Birch Society clone that bears no resemblance to the Boston Tea Party (legends in their own minds). The original tea party dumped the monopoly tea in the harbor: this tea party is drinking the monopoly tea.

    One thing tea partiers that I talk to agree with me on is what they call "crony capitalism." Yet, their movement is itself a crony with certain corporatists (denial?). What we need is a populist movement akin to the late 19th century that will now demand a constitutional amendment to ban money from politics. Nothing short of that will fix this country or set the standard for the world that will be trying to develop both democracies (Arab Spring?) and healthy capitalist markets (sans monopolies).

    Otherwise, we are surely headed for some kind of global fascism and/or feudalism like the world has never witnessed. To have the kind of populist movement we need, we must surely cross political boundaries and unite in claiming our government for citizen-taxpayer control. If we don't rise up as a people, our taxation without representation (deja vu) government will become but a fading dream of democracy unrealized. Cause for alarm? I would say.

  • W/ 1 out of every 5 children in America in poverty - do you think we still are in a recession or a great Republican depression?   14 years 6 days ago

    Recession or depression depends upon personal circumstances.

    America's poor were enduring a perpetual economic depression even when the Middle Class was happily consuming itself into becoming the Indentured Class.

    Note how the unions have reactionary rallied to support the Democrat faction of the corporate party in states with retrograde Republican governors, while surrendering to the devious Democrat governors who have demanded that working people pay the penalties for the economic chaos that corporate (R & (D) party protected (and rewarded) banksters caused.

    When the governor is a Democrat collective bargaining is a right not worth having... because it isn't exercised.

    If the Indentured Class workers actually believed they were experiencing a real depression there'd be socialists rising in the rank and file to take back the unions that Democrats made weak, rather than continuing Democrat control dedicated to protecting the systemic rot that should be removed.

    The Devolution of Liberalism:

    http://chenangogreens.org/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id...

  • It’s time to slam shut the revolving door on Capitol Hill – and bolt it closed...   14 years 6 days ago

    Its really time that this type of action be prosecuted if possible. There is no way that Issa should be able to retain any position in government after this revelation and the one earlier this week pertaining to earmarks.

  • It’s time to slam shut the revolving door on Capitol Hill – and bolt it closed...   14 years 6 days ago

    Is it, or is it not, a crime in itself to change your name like this? Did he go through a legal process, or is this just another acceptable policy for those "in control"? This is sickening, and I believe every American who has been insulted or destroyed by this corrupt US government should simple REFUSE TO PAY TAXES!!! What are we paying for? Cuts in social programs; illegal and immoral wars; torture, rendition, and no-bid contracts. Meanwhile, roads are crumbling; bridges are collapsing; freedoms are being trampled on; tent cities are springing up all over the country. We spend BILLION$$$ to defend this country. With what is going on, what the hell is there to defend? DO NOT PAY TAXES!!!

  • It’s time to slam shut the revolving door on Capitol Hill – and bolt it closed...   14 years 6 days ago

    Have you cosidered collaborating with Change.org or FreePress.net or any other popular nonprofits that publish and disseminate this kind of news, create petitions for us to sign, and connect us to our representatives in Congress demanding transparancy and change? They do a lot of good work. I'm new to you so I don't yet know exactly what you may do similarly...

  • It’s time to slam shut the revolving door on Capitol Hill – and bolt it closed...   14 years 6 days ago

    Showing up at the ballot box will only add to the fallacy that we have an honest and workable system of democracy. We don't have a honest and workable system of democracy. Obama proves this...as he is a Wall Street Democrat or a Republican faking it as a Democrat. He is very far to the right of center politically and sides with Wall Street and the banksters against the people. He is not our friend and he will just do more of the same if reelected...and the same is a dismantling of the social safety network like social security and medicare. His actions have proven this to be so...no matter what he has said...his actions speak louder than words. We need to primary Obama out and put in a real Democrat...a progressive one that does not kiss Wall Street and bankster's behinds. We need someone who can and will stand up to them....for a change!!!

  • It’s time to slam shut the revolving door on Capitol Hill – and bolt it closed...   14 years 6 days ago

    Foxes guarding the chicken coop. And the next time you go get a vaccination...wonder what is it you are getting besides just a vaccination...are they collecting dna on you and putting it into a data base? There are all kinds of "conspiracy theories" which many people still tend to reject...until many years later when more knowledge comes out that despoils the official government-controlling version of truth...and even then many people have been brainwashed to go along with the official stories. Here's one more that you may, or may not, have heard of:

    CIA organised fake vaccination drive to get Osama bin Laden's family DNA

    Senior Pakistani doctor who organised vaccine programme in Abbottabad arrested by ISI for working with US agents

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/11/cia-fake-vaccinations-osama-...

    I won't even go into the conspiracy theory about AIDS and the Hepatitis B vaccine connection.

  • It’s time to slam shut the revolving door on Capitol Hill – and bolt it closed...   14 years 6 days ago

    End the revolving door. Bring an end to corrupt politicians by showing up to the ballot box and bringing all your friends. We can educate ourselves so that the billionaires do not push every American into poverty.

  • It’s time to slam shut the revolving door on Capitol Hill – and bolt it closed...   14 years 6 days ago

    I think that thousands of people should stand outside his house and stare at him as he gets into his car to go to work. And thousands more should be waiting at his office, and stare at him there, too. And when he leaves for lunch, thousands of people should follow him and stare at him while he eats lunch. And when he goes home at the end of the day, thousands of people should be there, staring at him as he exits his car and goes into his house. And thousands of people should stand there and stare at his house all night long, in shifts. If he wants to go out in public, he should not be able to do so without being faced with the people who do not approve of the mental illness that he obeys every time he screws the little people out of money.

  • Big tobacco is suing the FDA because they say - they're people!   14 years 6 days ago

    With rights come responsibilities.

    As a citizen / person, you have rights but also responsibilities.

    It seems that corporations want the rights but without the responsibilities. If as a person, I commit a crime, I can't 'fold up' my person-hood and start over clean. The analogies get silly at times, but for a person, lying to some government officials is a crime. If those officials, in their regulatory role, ask a company if they know of any risks to the public and they lie.. crime.

    Someone mentioned immigration. How about if a foreign national enters the US and forms a corporation? There is then a 'person' or even 'citizen' created. Now, if you tell that actual person to leave, you could be depriving that corporate person of its 'right' to life... pursuit of profit or whatever.. Bet the republicans would love that.

    There we go, maybe we need a bill of corporate rights spelling out what they expect to have, and see if it makes sense.

    We have good ugly photos on our cigarette packs and they are kept on shelves away from display to kids etc.. People still smoke, but I would say they are a slowly dying breed. Smoking killed my mother. I have no sympathy from the profiteers of death in whatever industries. They can have the smoking section, in Hell.

    Good luck.

    Rick

  • It’s time to slam shut the revolving door on Capitol Hill – and bolt it closed...   14 years 6 days ago

    Elizabeth Warren should not be a person to "Beat" a Republican. She is expected to be a a strong, honest woman who keeps the interests of the powerless in her mission. She has a right to the job that does not benefit her.

  • It’s time to slam shut the revolving door on Capitol Hill – and bolt it closed...   14 years 6 days ago

    Tag, we're it... Another problem that can only be handled after we get corporate money out of politics...we have a way...

    www.shutupvotethebill.org.

  • Daily Topics - Thursday August 18th, 2011   14 years 6 days ago

    Karl Rove is an atheist. That's why he appreciates the freedom of religion.

  • Big tobacco is suing the FDA because they say - they're people!   14 years 6 days ago

    Re. Corporations are people. The argument is flawed on a couple of grounds. First; it fails on the grounds of equality, i.e. if a=b, then b=a. That means that if corporations are people, then people are corporations and people should have the same rights as corporations --- such as being able to shelter income overseas. Second; Seton Motley made the argument to Thom that people form corporations, as if the personhood of the people who establish corporations is transferred to the person itself. That contention is somewhat along the same line as the argument that Romney made when he said that the money a corporation receives goes to people, therefore corporations are people. If you want to make the Romney argument, then when a corporation causes damage, injury, death, etc.; then by the same token that the money the corporation makes goes to people, why doesn't the punishment against the corporation also pass on to those who run the corporation, why aren't those people, fined, given life without parole, or even the death penalty? Dan, San Diego.

  • Constitution doesn’t say, “We the millionaires…”   14 years 6 days ago

    @ Godzillasrage Not only does the Constitution not preach anything that could be construed as "Capitalism" (most especially not the current perversion of insisting that rapacious profit-at-any-and-all-cost is the One And Only 'acceptable' business model), but there also in not one thing in the Constitution that prohibits using tax monies to benefit the downtrodden.

    It's currently de rigueur, if not Gospel itself, for the right-wing extremists (a given, since the right has booted-out any moderates) to repeatedly claim that "the Constitution enshrines private property", however, that is not correct, and ignores the following facts:

    1) Although the phrase "general welfare", as used in the Constitution, means "general/national well-being, prosperity", and not organized public assistance (see: http://www.usconstitution.net/glossary.html#wellfare ), the fact remains that, since the Constitution does not specify how this is to be achieved, but *does* specify in Amendment 9 that "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people," it is up to The People, in whom the penultimate authority resides (see: http://www.usconstitution.net/glossary.html#republic ), to determine how to best achieve that "general Welfare".

    2) Even before the Constitution mandates, to the government it created, the promotion of the general welfare, it mandates to that government the duties to "...establish Justice, [and] insure domestic tranquility..."; again, these terms are not defined specifically because the Framers of the Constitution knew - if only through the experience of their own actions - that these concepts evolve over time. For example, although they did not include anti-slavery language in the Constitution due to the need to have it ratified by the Southern states, the Framers did hope that the abolition of slavery would eventually become part of the US Justice system. Additionally, although the mandate to "insure domestic tranquility" was originally intended to "...to ensure the federal government had powers to squash rebellion and to smooth tensions between states" (see: http://www.usconstitution.net/glossary.html#domtran ), it is also a fact that, for several reasons, there simply can be no prosperity when a population is a continual state of unrest and turmoil. Therefore, justice, and domestic tranquility, must exist in order for Prosperity to develop and thrive. And the fact is that, as shown by the French Revolution, as well as the Union actions in the US in the early 1900's, one of the fastest ways to ensure domestic strife and populist violence is to [a] create a tiny privileged class which owns the great bulk of the nation's wealth yet pays little to none of the costs (taxes) to maintain, and pay the debts of, that nation, and [b] relegate the vast majority of the population to a permanent underclass which is heavily taxed in proportion to wages, and has a continual high rate of unemployment and homelessness with little to no relief.

    3) Private Property is not necessarily "enshrined" in the Constitution, at least, it is not made "sacrosanct" in any way near to what is claimed by the proponents of rapacious profit-at-any-and-all-costs capitalism. What it does, in the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments, is say that no person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property *without due process of law*, and that private property cannot be taken for public use *without just compensation*. It remains, however, up to the People's representatives in the Legislature to write and pass those laws, and to the Supreme Court to deal with questions regarding the constitutionality of those laws which are brought before it. This is, in fact, *not* an enshrinement of Capitalism any more than it is a refutation or condemnation of Socialism; indeed, Article I, Section 7, states that "All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills", and goes on to describe the related procedures for ratification; and Section 8 specifies that "Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes", and finally, "To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof." Nothing therein, or in any other part of the Constitution, specifies anything regarding one or another economic system, especially since Early America was mostly agrarian, and what manufacturing there was, was done, and sold by, artisans. Corporations were looked at askance and not trusted; their actions, and the length of time the could exist, were all *very* restricted, because of Early America's experience with the East India Company. -- However, as the United States' own Civil War simmered and then finally boiled over, that distrust was overshadowed by the practical need for the armaments, uniforms, means of transportation, and other goods that the new machinery of the Industrial Revolution could produce in mass quantities and in record time. As the factory owners became wealthier, they sought to consolidate and entrench their position in society and the nation, and pushed harder than ever to use the non-specificity of the Constitution to their own advantage. One such tactic was the pressure to shift a corporation away from being a legal entity of limited action and time-span, and towards the notion of "personhood", even though the Fourteenth Amendment was completely specific in defining a "person" as being "born or naturalized in the United States". Specifically, the fantasy of "corporate personhood" gelled on the basis, *not* of any Court decision, but rather, on the inaccurate summary (a.k.a. "headnotes") of the case entered into the record by a pro-corporation Court Clerk, which was "creatively" (i.e., mendaciously) worded in a way that made it *seem* that the Court had declared its acceptance of "corporate personhood". (For more details, see: http://secret-of-life.org/corporate-personhood , http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/13-corporate-personh... , http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Controlling_Corporations/Challenge_Cor... , http://www.johnmurphyforcongress.org/corporate.htm , and others).

    As much as the right wing likes to deny the above, and likes to call commentors such as myself "stupid" and/or "commie" and/or "an enemy of capitalism", a closer examination of history, sociology, psychology, and practical economics reveals that the only *sustainable* business model is *not* the rapacious mega-corporations (whose mergers and acquisitions eliminate jobs, and whose bottom-line absolutism continues to ship ever-more American jobs elsewhere), but rather, something closer to the Early American artisans and community-based business-owners, making a living from the modest profit gained by offering high-quality goods to their neighbors at fair prices, and paying those neighbors who worked in those businesses a fair wage. *That* is the business model based upon *true* American values of justice, equal opportunity, equality before the law, neighborliness, and the balance of individualism with cooperation.

  • W/ 1 out of every 5 children in America in poverty - do you think we still are in a recession or a great Republican depression?   14 years 6 days ago

    When a company falls

    on difficult times, one of the things that seems to happen is they reduce their

    staff and workers. The remaining workers must find ways to continue to do a

    good job or risk that their job would be eliminated as well.

    Wall street and the

    media normally congratulate the CEO for making this type of "tough

    decision", and the board of directors gives upper corporate management big

    bonuses..

    Our government should

    not be immune from similar risks.

    Therefore:

    Reduce the House of

    Representatives from the current 435 members to 218 members.

    Reduce Senate members

    from 100 to 50(one per State). Then, reduce their remaining staff by 25%.

    Accomplish this over

    the next 8 years (two steps/two elections) and of course this would require

    some redistricting.

    Some Yearly Monetary

    Gains Include:

    $44,108,400 for

    elimination of base pay for congress. (267 members X $165,200 pay/member/yr.)

    $437,100,000 for

    elimination of their staff. (Estimate $1.3 Million in staff per each member of

    the House, and $3 Million in staff per each member of the Senate every year)

    $108,350,000 for the

    reduction in remaining staff by 25%.

    $7,500,000,000reduction

    in pork barrel earmarks each year. (Those members whose jobs are gone. Current

    estimates for total government pork earmarks are at $15 Billion/yr).

    The remaining

    representatives would need to work smarter and improve efficiencies. It might

    even be in their best interests to work together for the good of our country!

    We may also expect

    that smaller committees might lead to a more efficient resolution of issues as

    well. It might even be easier to keep track of what your representative is

    doing.

    Congress has more

    tools available to do their jobs than it had back in 1911 when the current

    number of representatives was established. (Telephone, computers, cell phones

    to name a few)

    Note:

    Congress does not

    hesitate to head home for extended weekends, holidays and recesses, when what

    the nation needs is a real fix for economic problems. Also, we had 3 senators

    who were not doing their jobs for the 18+ months (on the campaign trail) and

    still they all accepted full pay. Minnesota survived very well with only one

    senator for the first half of this year. These facts alone support a reduction

    in senators and congress.

    Summary of

    opportunity:

    $44,108 ,400

    reduction of congress members.

    $282,100,000 for

    elimination of the reduced house member staff.

    $150,000,000 for

    elimination of reduced senate member staff.

    $70,850,000 for 25%

    reduction of staff for remaining house members.

    $37,500,000 for 25%

    reduction of staff for remaining senate members.

    $7,500,000,000

    reduction in pork added to bills by the reduction of congress members.

    $8,084,558,400 per

    year, estimated total savings. (That's 8-BILLION just to start!)

    Corporate America does

    these types of cuts all the time. There's even a name for it.

    "Downsizing."

    ------------------------------

    Also, if

    Congresspersons were required to serve 20, 25 or 30 years (like everyone else)

    in order to collect retirement benefits, taxpayers could save a bundle.

    Now they get full

    retirement after serving only ONE term.

    IF you are happy with

    how Washington spends our taxes, ignore this message.

    Otherwise, it's time

    to "downsize" Congress.

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