@history writer
But so what if they have a lot of photos...doesn't prove anything...OBL had a lot of doubles that...sort of looked like OBL but it was doubtful that the pictures were really of OBL anyway. Yes, it looks like, once again, our government has conveniently gotten rid of any real evidence that might have helped prove their case and are asking us to all be gullible dummies and believe them.
You know the only thing different between Obama and Osama is a "b" and an "s"...that's right..."bs". Ok it was a cheap shot...but so what? At least I didn't kill anyone.
@Fourarrows:
I tend to agree with you that some of those who are in prominent positions on the left seem to be avoiding the obvious...including Thom Hartmann and Noam Chomsky. The government official conspiracy theory seems to have taken hold in these, otherwise, intelligent beings. They are obviously, I believe, in league with those who believe that they would not gain any foothold on the minds of those that they try to influence and would possibly risk alienating themselves from their "movement"...the Democratic Party. Most people now know that the Democratic Party is a wash out..it does not truly represent those they try to pretend they represent.
It is quite obvious to many of us that Obama is not going to represent his constituents...at least the majority of hard working (or would be had they not been laid off), or retired, citizens and will continue to use puffery, lies, and smoke and mirrors propaganda to mess with our minds. The most recent "mess-with-our-minds" propaganda is, of course, the death of OBL and their scare "red alert" scare tactics of the bad old boogey men that will now try to take revenge on us. If an "attack" happens...I would believe that it was done by the same people that did the 911 false flag attack...an inside job..using Arab patsies. Or maybe they will progress to American citizen patsies who have voiced their discontent and doubts on the internet. What better way to further clamp down and take away all rights and freedoms...exactly what they want to do anyway.
I voted for Obama once but now know that he is a turn-coat that has proven that he'll promise one thing and then, after elected, will stab us all in the back. Obama is now part of the problem.
Now that we’ve taken it upon ourselves to take out Osama bin Laden, the reasons for which remain manifestly unclear, there’s no reason not to go after the real perpetrators of this ungodly mess: George Bush, Dick Cheney & Company. The suspicion that our own government was involved in 9/11 and that Osama bin Laden was no more than a convenient, albeit willing, scapegoat will not die. But if his aim was to destroy the United States of America, with the help of Dubya, Cheney and friends, he has managed to go a long way toward that goal. We are mired in endless wars around the globe chasing a phantom which is nothing more than our own shadow. How many innocent people have we slaughtered under the name of a completely phony war since we are, in fact, the terrorists? And why are we doing these obscene and hypocritical things? For no other reason than to keep our corporate fat cats in business and help them to help Osama bin Laden carry out his plan. The national debate over the budget deficit reflects this nauseatingly deceitful picture. The Republicans under Bush (and starting as far back as 30 years ago) have brought us to this end and now we are made to sit down and listen to them rant and rave day after day after day over the deficit and our over-the-top spending habits!!???
They take us to be very, very stupid. And by continuously allowing them to tub-thump and proliferate their unbelievably hypocritical views, we lean, sadly enough, toward proving them right.
And the mention of the America Airlines story is on the "Indict George W. Bush" piece. And accompanying the piece is a picture of Bush holding up his bloody hands...quite appropriate (more likely it is red paint but it is still quite symbolic of all the blood that war criminal helped to cause).
My Understanding was that Bin Laden died about two years ago! So what is this all about ~another Soaps Operra ?And 10% of me thinks he could still be alive. Just how many lives does Bin Laden have anyway . Could it be 9 lives?
Really, finally dead? And execution without a trial. Sounds like a gangland killing on an international scale. Osama was perhaps our favorite BOOGIEMAN. Do we need a new one? Think FEAR!
We have had this so-called "War against terrorism" without a declaration, and a "war against drugs" since I think Nixon, and a "war against poverty" which needs to be re engaged. But perhaps moreso we need a "WAR AGAINST WAR"!
Thom is right, with Bin Laden gone; we have much bigger problems to move on to. First the wars need to end. President Obama surely is well aware of recent world history regarding the former Soviet Union. It earned the apt title "former" by attempting perpetual warfare in Afghanistan. For the US to repeat the same blunder by allowing cheaply made IED's to bankrupt us, is handing victory to the terrorists.
With the wars ended, money could then be directed to the more pressing problem of possible annihilation of the entire planet caused by climate change. Certainly green energy jobs would help lift us out of the most recent Republican great depression.
I hope to God it doesn’t happen, but if we get hit again due to retaliation for Bin Laden, it will be a Cheney-esque, rightwing, mainstream media, wet dream- bashing and blaming the President for not keeping America safe. Look at the useless crap the media feeds us now!..... just saying!
President Obama's credibility that Bin Laden is dead fades each hour worldwide with no proof. Buck stops at the top. Here's help around the home with high gasoline and food prices
Watching your show on tonite I'm wondering if this is a hollywood like setup that Bin Laden is dead with lead actors: Afghanistan President in on it too saying now we got him we should leave (in essence helping to aide Americans leaving Afghanistan as scheduled soon); Pakistan being the fall guy; 24 hour burial per Islam. Only one thing...there is no body fior proof.
First, I don't believe Osama Bin Laden is actually dead and lastly, justice will not be served until George W. Bush and Dick Cheney get theirs. Everyone can believe what they want, But George W Bush was the biggest terrorist America has ever known. It's funny, you never really heard the word terrorist until George W. Bush.
Now Osama Bin Laden is finally found and killed nine and a half years, thousands of lost lives, and trillions of dollars later. We could capture Saddam Hussein who had all of those countless weapons of mass destruction and take all of the time in the world to interrogate him, but Osama Bin Laden was such a gangsta that we decided that killing him made much more sense than capturing him alive and interrogating him.
They sure didn't waste any time throwing the gangsta's body in the sea did they?
One thing I know people and that is, "when something smells fishy, there's usually a fish around somewhere."
Well, being someone who knows quite a bit about graphic art and the tools used to manipulate photographs, 5000 photos of him dead wouldn't have convinced me anyway.
We sure do have a lot of lying ass thieves and murderers in this corporate run country don't we?
I think it is pretty clear that Bin Laden would have gone to his death well satisfied with his work.
Just look at the way the US walked away from so many democratic ideals in establishing the anti- terrorist legislation it did. Look at how seriously the political ideals of a supposedly freedom loving country have been eroded since 2001.
The best way to ensure that a conspiracy theory has ongoing currency is to refuse to investigate the legitimate concerns that have been raised.
We live in democrocies that should be open and transparent.
Calling something a conspiracy theory and refusing to assess the serious allegations raised dishonours your fellow citizens and their legitimate concerns.
Cannot applaud murdering someone in their home, without a trial. It says a lot about the sorry state of our nation that so many think that this is a good thing.
I disagree with Thom's very very ugly on today's program (Mon). Liberals do not like the death of Bin Laden. At least not the way it was done. Please see David Swanson's article "Killing Resolves Nothing". He expressed my feelings and thoughts when I first learned of the "rejoicing". And he says a lot more that I hadn't thought of yet. I am the member of two peace organizations in Wisconsin and others in these organizations feel as I do and as David does. His statement was endorsed by Voices (Kathy Kelly's organization). David's website is War is a Crime.org Joe Scarborough had it right. Obama did go against our wishes in killing him, but it was false that we did not want him captured. Of course Obama has gone against us since the gitgo.
The bin Laden family - which is vast - has a construction empire. That compound was probably built by his family members. Remember too that the bin Laden family and the Bush family had business contracts. I don't know if they still do, but at the time of 9/11, they still did.
So now can we end these stupid wars? The money we'll save could be used to create jobs here in America for everyone who needs a job, especially older workers, the long-term unemployed, the 99ers.
Do you think the administration would carry out such a well-planned job without making sure it was authenticated? A lot of pictures were taken of his body. I don't believe the administration's planning included verification. There are DNA samples (DNA samples were taken from some of his relatives) in addition. A question now is whether to make the photos available, because I guess they are gruesome. But if you need proof, they exist.
It's disheartening to see all those comments from people who are sure this is not true, that somehow the U.S. faked it all, that the administration is lying. Maybe they should have kept the body, encased it in glass (like Stalin) and sent it around the country as proof. Naw, someone would be sure to say it's an imposter. Some people simply cannot accept facts, even with proof, and would rather dwell in their little conspiracy-laden world.
"I am glad to hear of the death of Osama bin Laden, who had no qualms about slaughtering American civilians.
"Unfortunately, bin Laden leaves behind an evil legacy in the United States: the Department of Homeland Security, the TSA, the PATRIOT Act, warrantless wiretaps, the 'state secrets' doctrine, and other violations of Americans' civil and economic rights.
"Just like Osama bin Laden, these programs must be terminated.
Play the Godfather music on your show tomorrow, Thom.
Obama managed to recreate the end of Godfather #1 by taking out all his enemies in a grand finale. While plans were being put in place for whacking Osama, he deftly used his verbal wit to mortally skewer Donald Chump. The last scene will be at Ground Zero later this week when he finally puts an end to the Bush legacy. Some quotes to remember, "keeps your friends close, your enemies closer," "revenge is a dish best served cold," and "he sleeps with fishes."
Let me see now: some Arabians killed 5,000 Americans, so we invaded Iraq and killed about 1,000,000 people there. Yes, that makes a lot of sense, who wouldn't have done that? And probably at least half of the people we killed were innocent, which makes us even more patriotic. Then we invaded Afghanistan to get Osama, even though he wasn't there. Yes, I like the sound of this. And we built roads in Afghanistan, which was vital, because without good roads, how will we get the opium out of Afghanistan? And thanks to us, opium transportation has become so easy that sales are significantly higher than before we went over there. And then, because honestly, two pointless, illegal wars at one time is not nearly enough, we bomb Lybia while promising that we will send in any ground soldiers. Then, as we always do, we say that although we didn't want to send in ground troops, things have changed and we have to. Wonderful, democracy in action. Ed Schultz says that he didn't want Gadaffi dead, but, "Obama says we have to take him out, so we have to take him out." I like the cut of that man's jib- any time our president says that we have to remove or kill some foreign leader, we should do it- no questions asked or answered- I mean, do you love America or don't you? And now, Osama is dead. Supposedly. Gee, I feel ever so much safer now, because Osama was the only person capable of mounting terrorist attacks against America in retaliation for the inhuman way we have treated people in that part of the world. I mean, like, fur sure, dude, the war on terror is over, everyone in those terrorist groups is going to go home and start growing amaranth now that Osama is supposedly dead.
As far as foreign relations go, the main difference between Bush and Obama is that before Bush killed people he leaped up on a table with his shirt sleeves rolled up, beat his chest, and in the best imitation of a cocaine-addled professional wrestler that you could hope to see outside of late night tv, screamed threats and laughed and taunted his victims-to-be, and then he sent in our military to kill them. Obama, on the other hand, sends in our military to kill people, then holds a press conference to gloat about it, using two and even three syllable words.
I don't get it: why haven't we invaded every country in the middle east. I mean, they all deserve it, don't they?
Ok, sarcasm aside, I tell you that all of the Muslims with whom I have spent time, were good, decent people who behaved like Christians do when Christians ACTUALLY believe in the Bible rather than pretending that they are killing people for Jesus. I knew a guy who travelled in the middle east a long time ago, before we started terrorizing the middle east, and he said that all he had to do was walk into the town market and wander around and before too long a Muslim would come up to him and say, "American? Hey, you come to my house, stay with my family." In all the time he was there, he never paid for a hotel room, and often did not pay for food. He said they were the most hospitable people he ever met in his life. He said they were more hospitable than any Christian he had ever met. I guess that's why our government is so intent on slaughtering amongst them and ruining their cultures: our government officials, most of whom claim to be Christians, don't want anyone comparing them unfavorably with Muslims. In order to justify our animalistic behavior toward Muslims, we have to make sure that Muslims behave like animals, and if that means killing lots of them at random, imprisoning and torturing them at random, and bombing them back into the stone age, well, so be it.
Obama is at least a somewhat better person than Bush, but he's been listening to the wrong people. I suppose the only bright light in all this is that now that he has killed Osama, he'll get re-elected. And then we will have a chance to see whether Obama will keep any of the promises that he made to the people who elected him the first time, because virtually all of those promises remain unfulfilled, and Obama, like the politician he is, never refers to those questions. Instead, he brags about having ordered the killing of yet another person and pretends that he has done the right thing. (Sigh...)
Islam allows burial at sea in extraordianry circumstances or instances where there is a concern that the body may be "exhumed, attacked or dug up and mutilated by the enemy".
I can't believe that this site is swollowing this CIA hoax. I am with Bhutto....just before she was assassinated, she said Osama had been dead for 5 years...The tv appearances were so obviously hoaxes. How convenient that there is no body....as if sea burial woudl prevent martyrdom. There was no body...dna? How on earth can you trust the CIA to be telling the truth. What I want to know is, what is behind this hoax? 9-11 was very useful...it establihed a police state....what is the purpose of this? It's smoke and mirrors....smoke and mirrors! As to being glad that Osama is dead, I respect a man who has millions and fights for beliefs. If we didn't have military bases all over the world, he wouldn't have been cought up in this. When younger, I believe that he was a CIA operative ....when fighting against the Russians...Like so many that worked for the CIA, he wound up on their hit list and took the blame for 9-11, which no rational person could believe. Read The New Pearl Harbor or any other book that explains the real story behind 9-11.
@history writer
But so what if they have a lot of photos...doesn't prove anything...OBL had a lot of doubles that...sort of looked like OBL but it was doubtful that the pictures were really of OBL anyway. Yes, it looks like, once again, our government has conveniently gotten rid of any real evidence that might have helped prove their case and are asking us to all be gullible dummies and believe them.
You know the only thing different between Obama and Osama is a "b" and an "s"...that's right..."bs". Ok it was a cheap shot...but so what? At least I didn't kill anyone.
@Fourarrows:
I tend to agree with you that some of those who are in prominent positions on the left seem to be avoiding the obvious...including Thom Hartmann and Noam Chomsky. The government official conspiracy theory seems to have taken hold in these, otherwise, intelligent beings. They are obviously, I believe, in league with those who believe that they would not gain any foothold on the minds of those that they try to influence and would possibly risk alienating themselves from their "movement"...the Democratic Party. Most people now know that the Democratic Party is a wash out..it does not truly represent those they try to pretend they represent.
It is quite obvious to many of us that Obama is not going to represent his constituents...at least the majority of hard working (or would be had they not been laid off), or retired, citizens and will continue to use puffery, lies, and smoke and mirrors propaganda to mess with our minds. The most recent "mess-with-our-minds" propaganda is, of course, the death of OBL and their scare "red alert" scare tactics of the bad old boogey men that will now try to take revenge on us. If an "attack" happens...I would believe that it was done by the same people that did the 911 false flag attack...an inside job..using Arab patsies. Or maybe they will progress to American citizen patsies who have voiced their discontent and doubts on the internet. What better way to further clamp down and take away all rights and freedoms...exactly what they want to do anyway.
I voted for Obama once but now know that he is a turn-coat that has proven that he'll promise one thing and then, after elected, will stab us all in the back. Obama is now part of the problem.
Now that we’ve taken it upon ourselves to take out Osama bin Laden, the reasons for which remain manifestly unclear, there’s no reason not to go after the real perpetrators of this ungodly mess: George Bush, Dick Cheney & Company. The suspicion that our own government was involved in 9/11 and that Osama bin Laden was no more than a convenient, albeit willing, scapegoat will not die. But if his aim was to destroy the United States of America, with the help of Dubya, Cheney and friends, he has managed to go a long way toward that goal. We are mired in endless wars around the globe chasing a phantom which is nothing more than our own shadow. How many innocent people have we slaughtered under the name of a completely phony war since we are, in fact, the terrorists? And why are we doing these obscene and hypocritical things? For no other reason than to keep our corporate fat cats in business and help them to help Osama bin Laden carry out his plan. The national debate over the budget deficit reflects this nauseatingly deceitful picture. The Republicans under Bush (and starting as far back as 30 years ago) have brought us to this end and now we are made to sit down and listen to them rant and rave day after day after day over the deficit and our over-the-top spending habits!!???
They take us to be very, very stupid. And by continuously allowing them to tub-thump and proliferate their unbelievably hypocritical views, we lean, sadly enough, toward proving them right.
@ Onit2day:
Thanks for that really great web site The Existentialist Cowboy at http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/
And the mention of the America Airlines story is on the "Indict George W. Bush" piece. And accompanying the piece is a picture of Bush holding up his bloody hands...quite appropriate (more likely it is red paint but it is still quite symbolic of all the blood that war criminal helped to cause).
How many live does Osama have anyway. Did he die again? >http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0%2C8599%2C1819280%2C00.html
My Understanding was that Bin Laden died about two years ago! So what is this all about ~another Soaps Operra ?And 10% of me thinks he could still be alive. Just how many lives does Bin Laden have anyway . Could it be 9 lives?
Really, finally dead? And execution without a trial. Sounds like a gangland killing on an international scale. Osama was perhaps our favorite BOOGIEMAN. Do we need a new one? Think FEAR!
We have had this so-called "War against terrorism" without a declaration, and a "war against drugs" since I think Nixon, and a "war against poverty" which needs to be re engaged. But perhaps moreso we need a "WAR AGAINST WAR"!
Thom is right, with Bin Laden gone; we have much bigger problems to move on to. First the wars need to end. President Obama surely is well aware of recent world history regarding the former Soviet Union. It earned the apt title "former" by attempting perpetual warfare in Afghanistan. For the US to repeat the same blunder by allowing cheaply made IED's to bankrupt us, is handing victory to the terrorists.
With the wars ended, money could then be directed to the more pressing problem of possible annihilation of the entire planet caused by climate change. Certainly green energy jobs would help lift us out of the most recent Republican great depression.
I hope to God it doesn’t happen, but if we get hit again due to retaliation for Bin Laden, it will be a Cheney-esque, rightwing, mainstream media, wet dream- bashing and blaming the President for not keeping America safe. Look at the useless crap the media feeds us now!..... just saying!
I couldn't have said it better, although I could add a page or two to yours and we could write a book.
This Bin Laden is dead may have been created to bring the boys home patriotically.
President Obama's credibility that Bin Laden is dead fades each hour worldwide with no proof. Buck stops at the top. Here's help around the home with high gasoline and food prices
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Watching your show on tonite I'm wondering if this is a hollywood like setup that Bin Laden is dead with lead actors: Afghanistan President in on it too saying now we got him we should leave (in essence helping to aide Americans leaving Afghanistan as scheduled soon); Pakistan being the fall guy; 24 hour burial per Islam. Only one thing...there is no body fior proof.
First, I don't believe Osama Bin Laden is actually dead and lastly, justice will not be served until George W. Bush and Dick Cheney get theirs. Everyone can believe what they want, But George W Bush was the biggest terrorist America has ever known. It's funny, you never really heard the word terrorist until George W. Bush.
Now Osama Bin Laden is finally found and killed nine and a half years, thousands of lost lives, and trillions of dollars later. We could capture Saddam Hussein who had all of those countless weapons of mass destruction and take all of the time in the world to interrogate him, but Osama Bin Laden was such a gangsta that we decided that killing him made much more sense than capturing him alive and interrogating him.
They sure didn't waste any time throwing the gangsta's body in the sea did they?
One thing I know people and that is, "when something smells fishy, there's usually a fish around somewhere."
Well, being someone who knows quite a bit about graphic art and the tools used to manipulate photographs, 5000 photos of him dead wouldn't have convinced me anyway.
We sure do have a lot of lying ass thieves and murderers in this corporate run country don't we?
I think it is pretty clear that Bin Laden would have gone to his death well satisfied with his work.
Just look at the way the US walked away from so many democratic ideals in establishing the anti- terrorist legislation it did. Look at how seriously the political ideals of a supposedly freedom loving country have been eroded since 2001.
The best way to ensure that a conspiracy theory has ongoing currency is to refuse to investigate the legitimate concerns that have been raised.
We live in democrocies that should be open and transparent.
Calling something a conspiracy theory and refusing to assess the serious allegations raised dishonours your fellow citizens and their legitimate concerns.
Cannot applaud murdering someone in their home, without a trial. It says a lot about the sorry state of our nation that so many think that this is a good thing.
I disagree with Thom's very very ugly on today's program (Mon). Liberals do not like the death of Bin Laden. At least not the way it was done. Please see David Swanson's article "Killing Resolves Nothing". He expressed my feelings and thoughts when I first learned of the "rejoicing". And he says a lot more that I hadn't thought of yet. I am the member of two peace organizations in Wisconsin and others in these organizations feel as I do and as David does. His statement was endorsed by Voices (Kathy Kelly's organization). David's website is War is a Crime.org Joe Scarborough had it right. Obama did go against our wishes in killing him, but it was false that we did not want him captured. Of course Obama has gone against us since the gitgo.
The bin Laden family - which is vast - has a construction empire. That compound was probably built by his family members. Remember too that the bin Laden family and the Bush family had business contracts. I don't know if they still do, but at the time of 9/11, they still did.
So now can we end these stupid wars? The money we'll save could be used to create jobs here in America for everyone who needs a job, especially older workers, the long-term unemployed, the 99ers.
Do you think the administration would carry out such a well-planned job without making sure it was authenticated? A lot of pictures were taken of his body. I don't believe the administration's planning included verification. There are DNA samples (DNA samples were taken from some of his relatives) in addition. A question now is whether to make the photos available, because I guess they are gruesome. But if you need proof, they exist.
It's disheartening to see all those comments from people who are sure this is not true, that somehow the U.S. faked it all, that the administration is lying. Maybe they should have kept the body, encased it in glass (like Stalin) and sent it around the country as proof. Naw, someone would be sure to say it's an imposter. Some people simply cannot accept facts, even with proof, and would rather dwell in their little conspiracy-laden world.
This is just nutty.
"I am glad to hear of the death of Osama bin Laden, who had no qualms about slaughtering American civilians.
"Unfortunately, bin Laden leaves behind an evil legacy in the United States: the Department of Homeland Security, the TSA, the PATRIOT Act, warrantless wiretaps, the 'state secrets' doctrine, and other violations of Americans' civil and economic rights.
"Just like Osama bin Laden, these programs must be terminated.
Play the Godfather music on your show tomorrow, Thom.
Obama managed to recreate the end of Godfather #1 by taking out all his enemies in a grand finale. While plans were being put in place for whacking Osama, he deftly used his verbal wit to mortally skewer Donald Chump. The last scene will be at Ground Zero later this week when he finally puts an end to the Bush legacy. Some quotes to remember, "keeps your friends close, your enemies closer," "revenge is a dish best served cold," and "he sleeps with fishes."
Let me see now: some Arabians killed 5,000 Americans, so we invaded Iraq and killed about 1,000,000 people there. Yes, that makes a lot of sense, who wouldn't have done that? And probably at least half of the people we killed were innocent, which makes us even more patriotic. Then we invaded Afghanistan to get Osama, even though he wasn't there. Yes, I like the sound of this. And we built roads in Afghanistan, which was vital, because without good roads, how will we get the opium out of Afghanistan? And thanks to us, opium transportation has become so easy that sales are significantly higher than before we went over there. And then, because honestly, two pointless, illegal wars at one time is not nearly enough, we bomb Lybia while promising that we will send in any ground soldiers. Then, as we always do, we say that although we didn't want to send in ground troops, things have changed and we have to. Wonderful, democracy in action. Ed Schultz says that he didn't want Gadaffi dead, but, "Obama says we have to take him out, so we have to take him out." I like the cut of that man's jib- any time our president says that we have to remove or kill some foreign leader, we should do it- no questions asked or answered- I mean, do you love America or don't you? And now, Osama is dead. Supposedly. Gee, I feel ever so much safer now, because Osama was the only person capable of mounting terrorist attacks against America in retaliation for the inhuman way we have treated people in that part of the world. I mean, like, fur sure, dude, the war on terror is over, everyone in those terrorist groups is going to go home and start growing amaranth now that Osama is supposedly dead.
As far as foreign relations go, the main difference between Bush and Obama is that before Bush killed people he leaped up on a table with his shirt sleeves rolled up, beat his chest, and in the best imitation of a cocaine-addled professional wrestler that you could hope to see outside of late night tv, screamed threats and laughed and taunted his victims-to-be, and then he sent in our military to kill them. Obama, on the other hand, sends in our military to kill people, then holds a press conference to gloat about it, using two and even three syllable words.
I don't get it: why haven't we invaded every country in the middle east. I mean, they all deserve it, don't they?
Ok, sarcasm aside, I tell you that all of the Muslims with whom I have spent time, were good, decent people who behaved like Christians do when Christians ACTUALLY believe in the Bible rather than pretending that they are killing people for Jesus. I knew a guy who travelled in the middle east a long time ago, before we started terrorizing the middle east, and he said that all he had to do was walk into the town market and wander around and before too long a Muslim would come up to him and say, "American? Hey, you come to my house, stay with my family." In all the time he was there, he never paid for a hotel room, and often did not pay for food. He said they were the most hospitable people he ever met in his life. He said they were more hospitable than any Christian he had ever met. I guess that's why our government is so intent on slaughtering amongst them and ruining their cultures: our government officials, most of whom claim to be Christians, don't want anyone comparing them unfavorably with Muslims. In order to justify our animalistic behavior toward Muslims, we have to make sure that Muslims behave like animals, and if that means killing lots of them at random, imprisoning and torturing them at random, and bombing them back into the stone age, well, so be it.
Obama is at least a somewhat better person than Bush, but he's been listening to the wrong people. I suppose the only bright light in all this is that now that he has killed Osama, he'll get re-elected. And then we will have a chance to see whether Obama will keep any of the promises that he made to the people who elected him the first time, because virtually all of those promises remain unfulfilled, and Obama, like the politician he is, never refers to those questions. Instead, he brags about having ordered the killing of yet another person and pretends that he has done the right thing. (Sigh...)
not true fourarrows - this from an expert....
Islam allows burial at sea in extraordianry circumstances or instances where there is a concern that the body may be "exhumed, attacked or dug up and mutilated by the enemy".
http://www.al-islam.org/laws/burial.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/05/02/f-bin-laden-burial.html
I can't believe that this site is swollowing this CIA hoax. I am with Bhutto....just before she was assassinated, she said Osama had been dead for 5 years...The tv appearances were so obviously hoaxes. How convenient that there is no body....as if sea burial woudl prevent martyrdom. There was no body...dna? How on earth can you trust the CIA to be telling the truth. What I want to know is, what is behind this hoax? 9-11 was very useful...it establihed a police state....what is the purpose of this? It's smoke and mirrors....smoke and mirrors! As to being glad that Osama is dead, I respect a man who has millions and fights for beliefs. If we didn't have military bases all over the world, he wouldn't have been cought up in this. When younger, I believe that he was a CIA operative ....when fighting against the Russians...Like so many that worked for the CIA, he wound up on their hit list and took the blame for 9-11, which no rational person could believe. Read The New Pearl Harbor or any other book that explains the real story behind 9-11.
mr. felton was correct to mention the criminal cheney but failrd to mention the criminal obama......