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I'm surprised that no one commented on the fact that the tax cuts don't expire until the end of 2012. If the Republicans intend to win the Presidential election in Nov, this would not be necessary, would it? Does this mean that they think Obama will be re-elected? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, food for thought. Oh yeah, and they will have enough votes in 2014 to impeach him? Double whammy, right? Grover Norqist thinks Obama will have a 2nd term. Why didn't Thom mention this? oversight? And, how does Norquist know they would have enough votes? What if we vote most of the Republicans out of the House and Senate? What then Grover?
Grover Norquist's days of influence are over. He is a relic. He is just another big mouth. Now, Republicans have many sources for funding. They are no longer afraid of his wrath. This empty threat is the struggle of a man losing all his power.
"Obama doesn't want to raise taxes on the rich; he only wants to get credit for taking a position in that direction."
That's right..it's all smoke and mirrors...manipulation of the masses. The Trojan Horse wants you to believe he is on your side...but he is owned by the ruling elite and will continue to do their bidding.
Oh, and the politicians that got sacked at mid-term were many of the blue-dog Democrats that deserved to have their positions taken from them...even if it was by a Republican.
Blue Dog Democrat == Republican disguised as a Democrat. If the Democrats are going to keep lying to us and acting in favor of the 1% then they deserve to lose their jobs. This time around we need to replace Obama so that we send a strong message that lying to the people who voted for them will not get votes the second time around.
All things being relative, it can be a very terrible world at times for some. Sorry about your lady bug. And speaking of radiators...what about boiling frogs? Sibel Edmonds and Peter B. Collins has a great podcast called The Boiling Frogs. Their most recent program has Coleen Rowley on as a guest. Very illuminating! Most of us may experience the same fate as your ladybug.
So Norquist wants to impeach President Obama if he lets expire one of the ongoing Bush-era trickle down lies. A lie that has lead to the greatest economic disparity in wealth since the Great Depression, not to mention massive joblessness and wage stagnation.
I think the economic facts mandate that he let the tax cuts expire...... sorry Grover!
The people did not elect a Republican Congress. The people who programmed the voting machines elected a Republican Congress. There are many articles documenting election theft by every means right up to the bluntest and most flagrant: deliberate electronic miscount of the vote. See http://ElectionDefenseAlliance.org
Here's another possible interpretation of these events:
Obama doesn't want to raise taxes on the rich; he only wants to get credit for taking a position in that direction. Ideally, he would like to publicly advocate for more taxes on the wealthy, and then fail because of fierce opposition that is clearly not his fault.
Norquist and his allies are working with Obama to cover his right flank so he can make as much noise as he wants without fear that the tax expiration will actually pass. What we, the public, are allowed to see is political theater.
So votes for impeachment boil down to politicians proped up with corporate money (the desires of the 1-percent), rather than right and wrong.. If this statement were false, we would not have impeachment for sex, or for disobeying what the 1-percent want.. Rather we would have impeachment for starting an illegal war which is a high crime off the scale of sanity).. But the 1-percent profited off the war, so it goes on (or another will be started soon for whatever reason).
I absolutely agree. Who elected him to anything. What a blowhard. He has such a supersilous attitude too. To listen to him you would think he has direct instructions from the gods.
Right, Bideford2007! Obama did accomplish a lot anyway. Although the voter of the 2010 state elections pretty much were a disturbance. Now don't blame it on the president. Give him a chance. Stop flip-flopping, American voter!
REMEMBER? ...........
✎ Inauguration--January 2009
✎ Voters vote in gridlock in Massachusetts and Wisconsin--November 2010
✎ Gridlock in Congress--Since 2011
I have this and Obamas accomplishments in a short article, directly under my profile on this Thom Hartmann blog. He actually accomplished some more things, I really have to improve that article.....
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P.S.: As a liberal Catholic I proudly disobey the disobedience of my church.
For example:
I'd be happy if eating meat of any animals could be declared murder -- for I think that way. I just hold my horses, because I know it isn't the time yet to do something like that.... perhaps in 200 years.....
One beautiful summerday I watched street workers in the hot sun. I thought this was impossible, they will get skin cancer one day. But I know it's useless, because even some of these worker would probably say, "Hey, we're not gay! Do you consider us softies, or egg-heads?"
Today my lady bug died, because I made a mistake. I cared for him since November 5 and today he died. Because I was afraid it had been too cold at the window and then I forgot to take him of the radiator and it go to hot. So I killed him after almost three months feeding.
Isn't this world terrible?
Much of what you say is true but politicians have to be pushed toward YOUR goals. How can Obama expect to get things done when after only two years the public gets impatient and gives him a Republican Congress instead of giving him a stronger Democrat majority. The masses are asses when it comes to politics. They are like children who stamp their feet and want it now. We have 50 different countries who make up their own laws and regulations governing elections and don't want any central authority telling them anything. Each little country (state) is only interested in its own progress and success and to hell with the others. The politicians in each state bid for jobs and don't care that getting jobs in their region means a loss of jobs for someone else. The whole sytem is operated as an "I'm all right so to hell with you." If Americans ever get their act together and move as a country rather than small parts of one you might see some progress.
This guy should play basketball with Jack Nicholson (One Flew OverThe Cukoo's nest) How can you impeach someone for allowing a bill set to expire, expire? I think there should be some way to expose his corporate backers.
Sounds like Treason against the United States of America to me. Jail them, that will reduce the 1%, and put more of America's money back in circulation, and out of offshore banks.
Just noise. They're looking for reasons to kick him out anyway. If they had any they would've done it already.
Even Norman Goldman says he's going to vote for Obama, although bashing the president quite a lot. But he cannot claim Obama had three years, without counting in the gridlock after the 2010 state elections! Although Goldman is one of those who are too hard and actually unjust, he's going to vote for Obama. That's what he said. And why?
Right now America has no better candidate. And changing presidents every four years isn't good. We got to have some consistency. We mustn't have another president only because you're not happy with your present personal situation, dear American individualist. Please consider what's right for your country! On long terms it'll be good for you as well.....
What is it you do not understand? What are you looking for?
Huh? Impeach? Impeach him for what?? NOT doing something? Not extending the tax cuts? What are they gong to investigate? What will the charges be?
What blather! GN's drunk on his own self importance.
telliottmbamsc: Because even a-holes like Norquist have freedom of speech.
Maybe if they "coup the cat" then we can get a real Democrat..or better a third party candidate...into the Presidency. The current Democrat party is too corrupt to run anyone but Obama. But the American election system has become a real circus with the Republican and Democrat parties the prestidigitators who do the magic act. They fool you into believing that you will make a difference and that your vote is important. Doesn't matter which two-party candidate you vote for...you're going to get screwed.
I detest everything the criminal ultra-righties stand for and hope Mr. N. chokes on his wads of cash he managed to amass from his victims.
I would not be unhappy if Obama was kicked out...but it should be done by the people who voted for him the first time who realize that he is nothing but a Republican anyway.
Of course, it would be ridiculous to kick him out for letting the favored tax status of the rich expire. The fact is that the ruling elite (but not necessarily the Republican politicians) are quite happy with Obama as President...as long as there are still a lot of Obama supporters who still haven't seen through the ruse. They will continue to have false hope in a ruling elite Trojan Horse and this will continue to let the ruling elite get everything they want...all without a massive rebellion of the people.
There are a lot of "high crimes and treason" that Obama has let slip by without so much as a peep of scorn. He has not shut down the torture camps and has signed the NDAA which furthers our slip into the abyss of Fascism and mass detention centers for those who dare speak out against tyranny. Whistleblowers have been prosecuted but the economic criminals have not been. War crimes continue in an immoral and illegal war in the Middle East and elsewhere and Obama is quite happy to keep up what Bush started. Obama should be impeached for the real "high crimes and treason" that he has been party to. And Obama's appointments shows that he is not worthy of a second term. Many appointments have not even been made....because Obama is afraid of offending the bully boys on the right? Obama should just quit before he really trashes America.
It's kind of funny, about that class war. It began in the late 1980s, and went into all-out war against our poor with the Clinton administration. We learned a lot about our fellow Americans -- mainly about ignorance and apathy. Those who have had the means to inform the general public about what is really going on with those below the glorified middle class simply haven't bothered. The consequences have been pretty appalling. I assume that the next generation will look at what we've done to/against our poor, and vow "Never again!" Again.
There are a couple of links. One is http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/11-12/bill/sen/sb_0801-0850/sb_810_bill_20120126_status.html. If you Google SB 810 you will discover other links. Senator Leno also has his own link: http://sd03.senate.ca.gov/category/tags/sb-810.
You can lead a redneck to education but you can't make him think! And what's the problem with imagination? I keeps the old noodle from going soft. You can take that any way you can imagine. What? No imagination? And, yes, perhaps off topic in the strictest sense but still quite relevant to the overall picture. Not that it is in one's best interest to believe in all "conspiracy theories" or "chaotic ideas" (I happen to believe that "dogma kills" and that a lot of people have drank the cool aid when it comes to the silly things they have come to believe...all without an iota of facts or proof) but it is at least a good idea to be aware of the ideas even though you may not want to accept them. Too many people are stuck "in the box" and cannot think "out of the box" which means innovation, for them, is stifled. They have been suckered into a mind set dictated to them by a regimented system of propaganda...often based in superstition and ritualistic dogmatic non-sense. You can lead a thumper to education but you can't make them think.
Correct, Thom. Colorado does not have universal health insurance. Otherwise I would have seen somebody about my elbow, which is still healing after 6 weeks. I am unaware of any state-level program like Medicare or Medicaid here.
What is the link for SB 810?