Palindromedary, thank you again. I had a link but all sorts of data came up so I had to disconnect it. Your link works much better. I would appreciate that if you ever catch me in a mistake again, please point it out for we all must be as accurate as possible. - Cygnus1

Cygnus1: Thanks for the Rense.com story on Cops using bulldozers in Richmond to break up protesters. Actually had to look for it but here is the original:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/31/police-use-bulldozers-to-break-up-...

Third party as long as it is not put up by Americans Elect!
Americans Elect would really be a let down to the majority of Americans even more so than Obama has been. And obviously, the Republicans never were for the people. So if you are talking Green party..or any other liberal and/or progressive party..Peace and Freedom? As long as it is not put up by Americans Elect...which is, I believe, an even more right of center than Obama or the Republicans. They are trying to pretend that they are not affiliated with any political party but if they get in...just wait...you'll regret supporting them (if you do support them). But, you know, even if we did get someone from the Green party or Peace and Freedom party....I just wonder how well even they will stand up to the temptations and dirty tricks of Wall Street and anyone else they didn't play ball with. I think the only way we can be confident that we are regaining a free and fair election and political representation is if we made it illegal (and throw the bums in jail for a long time if they do not abide by the law) to finance campaigns and shut the revolving doors. When we can prevent anyone in office from being financially advantaged, even after they leave office, by those who stand to gain from political favor, then we will have regained power for the people and not power for the few.

Cygnus1: Some people might think it is silly to think that those who control this country would use drones against us. Some people think we're too civilized. Well I think that they have already done such a thing when they planned and engineered the attacks on 911. I believe that they used sophisticated electronics to control and guide the planes into the towers and into the Pentagon. I believe that they planted demolition explosives including nanothermite in the WTC buildings (all 3 of them) and remotely detonated them. They used 19 Arab patsies to make it appear that OBL was to blame. So if they can do this once, they can do it again...and depending on how bad things get here with the demonstrations...they may even use drones to take out select people or groups of people who oppose them and who are causing problems for them. So, I'm sitting here, typing on my computer waiting for that to happen so I'd better get this sent before I won't be able to. Just joking...I think! I'm sure they will go after more troublesome and more read bloggers or other well-known figures first.

FEEDBACK FROM THOSE WHO CARE. Cygnus1

"background N015e says:

Please know, we are eager to lend whatever support we can through our live radio show at occupydc.org — email has been sent to the press people, please reinforce the message. Stay strong, and welcome to the fight.”

Next:

SimGameIt says:

Hi, my name is Mike Callahan. Im far better known online as SimGameIt. For years ive watched what was going on in our country and i dont know if i was in more disbelief of what was happening or the fact that the people of this country were blind to it. I cried myself to sleep many nights because i couldnt seem to wake anyone up. This movement has given me tears of pride and tears of joy. And now with our former armed forces getting involved i tear up again. I know this is all supposed to be peaceful but i have something to say. I have never been a member of any armed forces. I wouldnt join because i didnt want to be a pawn for our governments political game of chess. My dad taught me to choose my battles wisely. I hope this stays peaceful and we come to a resolution. But i doubt any of the 1% are going to just give in. So let it be known, that when and if the time calls, i will stand shoulder to shoulder with these brave men and women and fight for our country with pride and integrity, honor and faith. Thank you all for helping. I support the OWS movement but i think they are a bit naive about whats to come. You are our bridge across those troubled waters.”

NEXT:

CorpsmanUp says:

“You should really read that article again. It explicitly states “Their website OccupyMarines.org, is calling for “Non-Active ‘Occupy’ Military Supporters Only” ” I just copied and pasted it
So you can go and complain to whomever you want while hiding behind the internet. While those of us who have served and who still live by our core values Honor, Courage, and Commitment will continue to Support and Defend the Constitution of the United States An oath I have taken again as a Federal Employee at the VA Read whats written, not what you think is written Shipmate”

They have been threatened by the Pentagon who writes the rules from Israel - what the American people can do and what the American people cannot do.

The Marines and American people are not allowed to assist U.S Protesters monetarily. OMC were made to give the money back. In the same fashion, no none is allowed to assist the Palestinians monetarily. Israel does not even wish you to assist the Protesters with material goods, and that is why the Protesters have had their heaters, tents and belongings removed from them by the foreign ruled U.S. police force.

You have had many many of your schools shut down for lack of funding yet your foreign ruled U.S. government can approach the Federal Reserve with bonds and receive "written into existence, money" created out of thin air for war, war, and more war.

The foreign-ruled U.S. government sitting within the United States of America follow the dictates of Israel, on Wall Street, in the Senate, the Congress, the Judicial Offices from top to bottom, Lawyers, Federal Reserve and, of course, the Pentagon. All Armed Service men and women are made to tow the line with threats of imprisonment and disgrace if they do not. Many of these men and women, when faced with what they are expected to do to other peoples in other nations, commit suicide because they cannot live with themselves any longer. Others kill their commanders which was somewhat frequent though unknown during the Viet Nam war. The People of the United States must wake up and realize that they are toe to toe with Israel in everything their foreign ruled, or should I say "foreign based" government within the United States is doing to them and making them do to others.

However, those Marines and Armed Service personelle are still an important part of the Occupation, but I do agree that if the time comes whereby they are not even going to collect clothes, blankets and whatever else is necessary for the well being of the protesters because of further threats and dictates from the 1%, then their contribution will be considerably less. Therefore, one must ask if the Constitution of the United States means as much to them as they say it does. - Cygnus1

FINALLY:

“Mary says:

We love our Marines! From Beaufort County, SC. The nearest protests are in Savannah, Charleston and Columbia, please join!”

PEOPLE OF THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, IT IS TIME TO COORDINATE YOURSELVES IN COLLECTING TENTS, HEATERS, CLOTHES AS WELL AS ALL OTHER MATERIAL ITEMS AND "FOOD" FOR THOSE WHO CONTINUE IN PROTESTING OUT IN THE ELEMENTS. Whatever is taken from We, the People, We, the People, must compensate for. - Cygnus1

SOLLUTION = THIRD PARTY .... SIMPLE!

It is imperative that the true U.S. Military and all of its branches join with the people and protect them otherwise you might see the following:

The Drone War Coming to a Town Near You

If there is nobody to set the drones to flying, nor to take Militarized action against the people, then the guns and the granades, will fall silent, and so will the bulldozers be stopped against We, the People!

The foreign ruled U.S. ruthless government AGAINST WE, THE PEOPLE, OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, HAVE EMPLOYED THE EXACT SAME TACTICS ON THE PEOPLE OF THESE UNITED STATES of AMERICA AS ISRAEL CONTINUALLY EMPLOYS UPON THE UNARMED PALESTINIANS!

This brings the utmost shame upon these, the Peoples of the United States of America, for the foreign backed U.S. government conduct these ongoing atrocities in the NAME OF THE CONSTITUTION WHICH THE FOREFATHERS OF THESE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HAD DRAFTED AND MADE THEREFORE INTO LAW FOR THE GOOD AND BENEFIT OF THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES!

THE FOREIGN RULED U.S. GOVERNMENT HAS FORGED A DEAL WITH THE DEVIL (so to speak) AND HAS MADE A LAUGHINGSTOCK OF THE PEOPLES AND NATION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THROUGH THEIR TYRANNY AGAINST THE PEOPLE!

quote:

"Established in 1789, the Supreme Court of the United States is the country's highest judicial body and final court of appeal. Its members, which include one chief justice and eight associate justices, are appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate. The Supreme Court is responsible for interpreting the U.S. Constitution and ensuring that federal and state laws comply with its articles and amendments. Based in the Supreme Court Building in Washington, D.C., the court hears between 75 and 100 cases per year." History.com

THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT STATE THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE NO RIGHT TO PEACEFUL ASSEMBLY! THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT STATE THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

BUT, the foreign ruled U.S. President Obama (as well as many other former Presidents) appoint those whom he is INSTRUCTED to appoint, then these appointees must be passed by the foreign ruled Senate.

Those Judicial members will then interpret the Constitution in any way which is benefical to their foreign MASTERS who operate WALL STREET, THE PENTAGON, THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND THE FULL ITINERARY OF THEIR WICKED POLICIES AGAINST THE PEOPLE WHOM THEY PROMISED TO SERVE!

Republicans are lucky. Their constituents do not notice what they are "Not Doing." The Republicans in Congress are "Not Doing" the people's business. They are merely following orders from the plutocrats who send them campaign donations. The people who elect them do not bother to investigate whether their elected officials are doing anything. Republicans are lucky that the people who vote for them are to lazy to see whether their elected representatives are actually representing them. If they checked on them, they would be angry.

Government cannot "create jobs." However, they can expand their bureaucracy at the expence of the taxpaying People of the Nation. The amount of funds in circulation will determine whether citizens can have employment or not. Much money in circulation creates many jobs. Lack of money in circulation creates unemployment.

The foreign ruled U.S.government is always looking for new wars in order to fund the weapons manufacturing industry, resulting in increased funds in circulation. As more contracts are signed more jobs are created. This begins to crank the wheels of economy resulting in an increased level of employment. This is how the U.S. government in the dirty 30's rescued itself out of unpopularity with the people.

The question here is: For how long are these Peoples of the United States of America going to continue in allowing the foreign ruled U.S. government to attack other nations in their name?

If I am one of those whom you have asked, then I hope I have been of some service. - Cyngus1

Israel Finklestein Interview:
The review I mentioned before was an interview by Aviva Lori (Haaretz newspaper) and this samples part of that interview:

"The Bible talks about the great and magnificent united monarchy of David and Solomon in the 10th century BCE, which split into two kingdoms, Israel and Judah, because of the demand by Solomon's son, Rehoboam (Rehavam), for excessive tax payments from the tribes of the northern hills and Galilee, which thereupon angrily seceded from the united monarchy. The result was two centuries of strife, wars and fraternal hatred."

Finkelstein is dubious about the existence of this great united monarchy.

"There is no archaeological evidence for it," he says. "This is something unexampled in history. I don't think there is any other place in the world where there was a city with such a wretched material infrastructure but which succeeded in creating such a sweeping movement in its favor as Jerusalem, which even in its time of greatness was a joke in comparison to the cities of Assyria, Babylon or Egypt. It was a typical mountain village. There is no magnificent finding, no gates of Nebuchadnezzar, no Assyrian reliefs, no Egyptian temples - nothing. Even the temple couldn't compete with the temples of Egypt and their splendor."

Then why was it written?

"For reasons of ideology. Because the authors of the Bible, people from Judah at the end of the seventh century BCE, in the period of King Josiah, had a long score to settle with the northern kingdom, with its splendor and richness. They despised the northerners and had not forgotten their dominance in forging the Israelite experience, in the competition for the sites of ritual. Contrary to what is usually thought, the Israelites did not go to pray in Jerusalem. They had a temple in Samaria (today's Sebastia) and at Beit El (Bethel). In our book we tried to show that as long as Israel was there, Judah was small and frightened, militarily and internationally. Judah and Jerusalem were on the fringes. A small tribe. There was nothing there. A small temple and that's all."

And the kingdom of Israel?

"The archaeological findings show that Israel was a large, prosperous state, and was the main story until its destruction in the eighth century. Its geographic location was excellent, on the coast, near Phoenicia, Assyria and Syria. It had a diverse demographic composition: foreign residents and workers, Canaanites, Phoenicians; there was an Aramean population in the Jordan Valley, and there were mixed marriages. It was only 150 years after Israel's destruction that Judah rose to greatness, becoming self-aware and developing the monotheistic approach: one state, one God, one capital, one temple, one king."

Are you saying that the story of the conquest of the land is a complete fiction?

"It is a story which, as it is presented in the Bible, definitely never happened. Archaeology shows that it has no historical grounds. Many of the sites that are cited in the story of the conquest were not even inhabited in the relevant period, so there was nothing to conquer, there were only hills and rocks. Jericho was not fortified and had no walls, and it's doubtful that there was a settlement there at the time. Therefore, in the case of the story of the conquest of Arad, for instance, some scholars said that the war was fought against the forces of one Bedouin sheikh.

"If one does a calculation backward from the point at which we have historical documentation, such as the external Assyrian writings about the monarchy of Ahab, it turns out that the story of the biblical conquest would have occurred at the end of the 13th century BCE. At that time the Egyptians ruled in the land, but there is no mention of that in the Bible.

"There is a stela in a Cairo museum on which the word Israel first appears in written form. The son of Ramesses II launched a military expedition to Caanan and conquered Ashkelon and Gezer, and wrote the famous sentence, `Israel is spoiled, his seed is not.' That was in 1207 BCE - after the conquest as related in the Bible."

If there was no conquest, where did the Israelites come from?

"Egypt was a mighty empire that ruled here with an iron fist. In the 14th century BCE there are stories about local kings who ask Pharaoh for help against one another, asking him to send 50 soldiers - in other words, that was the number that was sufficient to impose order here. So how did a few foot soldiers from the desert conquer the land? There was certainly no orderly military conquest. According to the archaeological findings, the Israelites came from the local stock: they were actually Canaanites who became Israelites in a socio-economic process."

"There is no evidence that the Israelites were in Egypt, not the slightest, not the least bit of evidence. There are no clues, either archaeological or historical, to prove that the Israelites built monuments in Egypt, even though the biblical description of the famine in the Land of Israel may be accurate. We know from archaeology that there was a migration of Canaanites to Egypt in the first half of the second millennium BCE, that these migrants built communities in the area of the Nile Delta, and that the Egyptians afterward expelled them from there."

http://prophetess.lstc.edu/~rklein/Documents/grounds.htm

Here's a review of a book that tells why Israel's claim on Palestine is largely based on fiction. The archeological evidence..combined with the lack of archeological evidence proves it.

"Archaeologist Israel Finkelstein and his colleagues are stirring controversy with contentions that many biblical stories never happened, but were written by what he calls `a creative copywriter' to advance an ideological agenda.

Prof. Israel Finkelstein sees no contradiction between holding a proper Pesach seder and telling the story of the exodus from Egypt, and the fact that, in his opinion, the exodus never occurred. The Hebrew edition of the book by Finkelstein and his American colleague, the historian and archaeologist Neal Asher Silberman, "The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of Its Sacred Texts" has just been published. The English edition was published in the United States in January 2001 and a French edition appeared last year. In both countries the book spent many weeks on the best-seller lists and generated considerable public interest. The New York Times dubbed the biblical authors of the seventh century BCE "God's ghostwriters" in a lengthy review of the book."

"What is it about "The Bible Unearthed" that has stirred such interest? Finkelstein, who is director of the Sonia and Marco Nadler Institute of Archaeology at Tel Aviv University, observes that this is the first "comprehensive book in which archaeology is the queen of battle and not some tawdry ornament of Bible scholars." And Finkelstein is indeed ready to do battle. In addition to the periods of the patriarchs and the exodus, about which most scholars agree that there is only the most tenuous connection between the stories in the Bible and the historical reality, Finkelstein and Silberman place a large question mark over the period up to and including the time of the United Monarchy.

http://prophetess.lstc.edu/~rklein/Documents/grounds.htm

Thom and Louise: "'In God We Trust' instead of Jobs...." as well as the last forum concerning Occupy the Courts - we now have a corporate judiciary! " are a brainwave to write upon. There are 800 secret camps to put them all in. I trust you will continue, in keeping the "Protesters" at the top of the People's concern for much is happening to We, the People, of these United States, which constitutes "a war" against us. When bulldozers are brought in to destroy the protesters shelter in this cold weather; canisters, and so-called rubber bullets are shot at the people, heaters and food taken away from the Protesters, (and yet these extremely brave people refuse to surrender), we must continue in assisting the all of them. Keep up the great work! - Cygnus1

Excellent posts, Palindromedary!

"Could it be that those ruling elite and their puppet politicians, who pretend to be Christians and demand "In God We Trust" to be on our money and everywhere else, that they too are being just as smug and tongue-in-cheek knowing that they are being just like their Roman precursors...would be emperors and ruling families...and don't believe their own slogans but use them to subjugate those who would believe in silly dogma and superstition." - Palindromedary

This is exactly how "Christians" are tricked into wars to so-called "Protect Israel, the chosen people."

Now Christians believe they, themselves, are the chosen and no one else really fits the bill, whilst those non-Arabs in Israel in particular, like Christians perhaps the least of any peoples with the possible exception of Muslims.

If the Christian community would simply realize that they are being consistantly programmed to adhere to the policies of Israel and their people (none other) to fight the wars for Israel, and work long hard hours to pay for all Israel wants, (for all Israel wants, Israel gets), then perhaps the Christian community might just wake up before they lose everything. But the Christian community is led by the nose everywhere Israel wants them to go, and the Christians think it is their duty also to "convert" those ones to Christianity and for their concern, they are even more hated.For Israel and all non-Arabs within it, believe there is no other Israel, just themselves.

Whilst religion exists, wars will continue to exist, and so will the money power forever be kept from the hands of the people. So here you have the money mixed with religion on the U.S. currency and rightfully so, for one is just as corrupt as the other. - Cygnus1

Perhaps it is not the "God" that many people believe in but that these ruling elite want us to worship them as Gods. After all, they want "In God We Trust" on all money which is what they have the most of...more than anyone else...and we all idolize and worship money don't we? So we are really being tricked into worshiping those who have all the money. God is money, right? Or is it money is God? "Back in the bowl!...back in the bowl!" "Le Plume de ma tante, eh Dimmie?" "Filet of a Fenny Snake, in the cauldron boil and bake!" "Jesus loves me, this I know. Cause the bible tells me so."