Thanks so much for the David Korten interview. I'm a long-time fan and hope he will be one of the great minds that the OWS movement will use in the conversation around the re-structuring.

The Roman Conspiracy To Invent Jesus by Joseph Atwill should be read by every "believer"...if they dare.

The following is from a blog about Atwill's book:

“The Gospels were designed to become apparent as satire as soon as they were read in conjunction with War of the Jews. In fact, the four Gospels and War of the Jews were created as a unified piece of literature whose characters and stories interact. Their interaction gives many of Jesus’ sayings a comical meaning and also creates a series of puzzles whose solutions reveal the real identities of the New Testament’s characters. Understanding the New Testament’s comic level reveals, for example, that the Apostles Simon and John were cruel lampoons of Simon and John, the leaders of the Jewish rebellion.”(p36)

Atwill concludes this chapter with a discussion of Mark 1 and Mark 5 and parallels to Titus’ first battle on the shores of the Sea of Galilee.

Chapter 3 gives us Atwill’s discussion of the strange tale of Cannibal Mary. For readers who have read Josephus many times, Atwill’s claim that she represents a parody of Christianity will come as a shock. Yet it is hard to see a woman named Mary who kills and eats her son in the manner of a Passover sacrifice as anything but a satire on the tale of Jesus as told in the Gospels. Atwill observes that the words in her mouth were placed there by Josephus, and if read as a satire on Christianity, they take on a new and portentous meaning:

“As to the war with the Romans, if they preserve our lives, we must be slaves. This famine also will destroy us, even before that slavery comes upon us. Yet are these seditious rogues more terrible than both the other. Come on; be thou my food, and be thou a fury to these seditious varlets, and a by-word to the world, which is all that is now wanting to complete the calamities of us Jews.”(Whiston translation, cited on p46)

Why should anyone roasting and eating their own child expect it to be a “by-word to the world” and a fury to the “seditious varlets,” the Jewish rebels? As Atwill points out, if this scene were in a piece of modern literature, it would instantly be seen by everyone as a parody of Christianity. Nor is Atwill the first scholar to have had this insight into the passage, for Honora H. Chapman noted parallels between the ‘Cannibal Mary passage’ in Josephus and the symbolic Passover Lamb of the Gospels in her SBL seminar paper ‘A Myth for the World’, Early Christian Reception of Infanticide and Cannibalism in Josephus’ Bellum Judaicum’ (2000).

http://caesarsmessiah.com/blog/2011/04/insightful-and-stimulating-by-mic...

Could it be that those ruling elite and their puppet politicians, who pretend to be Christians and demand "In God We Trust" to be on our money and everywhere else, that they too are being just as smug and tongue-in-cheek knowing that they are being just like their Roman precursors...would be emperors and ruling families...and don't believe their own slogans but use them to subjugate those who would believe in silly dogma and superstition.

If they're going to change it it should say, "Trust No One."

Despite Republicans and Prescott Bush, 'In God We Trust' is all that keeps me going. I surely don't trust the Bushes OR the Clintons or any politician to save me.

The Lord will take my Case up Himself. That's why we need the motto and that's why the Forefathers put it on the money- they knew who they were dealing with, the same people we have to deal with now.

What they really don't want you to know is that Jesus was really a member of the Sicarii, a sub cult of the zealots who rebelled against their masters...the Romans. The Sicarii carried hidden curved knives through the crowds and snuck up on the Roman soldiers and stabbed them and then disappeared in the crowds. The Romans considered the Sicarii as terrorists. The accounts of Jesus in the bible were concocted by the Romans, with the help of Josephus..a turn-coat fake Roman, as a sort of inside joke and also a way to manipulate rebelling Jews.

They started an offshoot religion and turned a man who was a "freedom fighter" or "terrorist" depending whether you were Jewish or Roman into a gentle and peace preaching one. Someone who would convince others to obey their masters because they would get their rewards in heaven. The seminal Christian groups had their ups and downs and continued strife with the ruling Romans but eventually, with the help of Constantine they managed to weed out all of those groups that would give the Romans trouble and the Romans would pretend to be Christian. Christians would think they won...over the centuries...and the ruling elite continued to use the superstitions to keep the people in line. "In God We Trust"

The story of "Cannibal Mary" is a hoot..you should read it!

If modern day Republicans were not downright evil I would laugh at them....but it gets really old finding humor in the actions of sociopaths

"In heaven, everything is fine. In heaven, everything is fine." Squeak! Grin. --Radiator Lady in Eraser Head movie.

These tricksters have been using the "get your rewards in heaven" (since you are not going to get them here on Earth) for thousands of years now. And lots of people are content to do without so that they can mull around with figments of imaginary feathery and haloed others who, they believe, bought into the same manipulative propaganda. Don't rebel, serve your masters and you too can get through those pearly gates to walk down the streets paved with gold. Well, that's one version anyway.

Well, now, maybe people are finally starting to wake up and smell the pollution. They are demonstrating in the streets and may yet overthrow their Laissez Faire capitalist bully-boys and grand inquisitors. What? You don't believe in our religion of Laissez Faire capitalism? Do you want to burn at the stake? Or suffer the eternal flames of Hell? Looks like the banks, for now anyway, are going to do away with the extra $4 or $5 users fee on the debit cards. It is highly likely to start up again if the demonstrators take the pressure off. The banks, of course, won't admit that their decision is because of the OWS movement.

The fees are really not the main issue anyway...it's the whole 3 decade long economic war that the wealthy (including these banks) have been waging against us. Wall Street is again taking a dive...as it is quite a roller coaster...and I'm sure that there are a lot of very wealthy people, gambling with other people's money, taking great advantage of this fact as they continue to buy low and sell high and siphon off the cream ensuring the the lowly investor takes the bullet. There is a lot of manipulation of the market, I'm sure! It's a rigged and crooked game they play.

This should brighten everyone's day: http://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur/2011/11/01

having been here for 40 years in the land of the free and equal opportunity , I feel disheartened now , because America is getting closer to the Third World Countries in terms of cronism, nepotism, class system, wage control, filthy rich and the downtrodden, have's and the have not, mega project to benefitt the richest, destabiilzation of the Middle Class , etc etc etc .

I don't know if you mentioned it on your program but you should urge your listeners (and yourself) to find a showing or a dvd of the documentary, "Hot Coffee". It covers this subject pretty clearly. The courts, especially the Supreme Court, are contributing to the corporatization of America. SCOTUS is the biggest threat to our democracy right now.

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