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Yes, and how can we continue to sanction assassinations of civiliians without trials? This is what Cheney did and now Obama is bragging about it?????
Yes, and other "good timing" issues can be exploreed. I wish Thom would start talking. I've spent years trying to understand his "neutrality" claim. I admire him so much but him, Noam and Amy and Ed and others are sidestepping more obviously than ever. Senator Boxer referred to my own book, American Assassination, to a friend, saying she would never admit she said it, that "they" have been warned not to cross a particular line.
"Conspiracy theories." Let's stop using the term please as it is being used pejoritively and not according to its commonly understood definitions. Muslim tradition says bury within 24 hours but not at sea unless death is at sea. So how can one believe Washington's claim that the burial at sea was honoring Muslims when most Muslim scholars are angry about it?
Thom,
You gave away your effort to force yourself to avoid "9/11" truth today. I've never heard you put your foot in your mouth as often as today. Hanging up on callers who mentioned the official story as it relates to the questions you posed about bin-Laden as if they cannot be related! Telling stories about Bush's wanting a war and then, bingo, along came 9/11. Bush had breakfast with bin Laden on 9/11. "What a coincidence." Only the bin Laden family was allowed to be on airplanes. "What a coincidence" you say. Then Bush "invented" bin-Laden you say. "What a coincidence" you had to admit. Thom, you are the smartest guy on the radio and smart people listen to you. I've written nearly as many books as you (including one you endorsed!) and more peer reviewed articles but you are smarter and better informed than me by far, yet your over-avoidance of relavent connections between the 9/11 lies you continue to support (not be neutral as you claim) are starting to undermine the great work of you and Amy and even Noam. You are the man who is supposed to stop the Emperor's New Clothes world, not participate in it. You say we should take risks. As long as people won't cross the line on thinking that the great U.S. who would/could never do a false flag operation (not counting Viet Nam or our role in Pearl Harbor), we will never get to where I know you want us to get. Impossible. Take it from this Indian. I'll be talking more about this on my forthcoming blog on Truthout. In the meantime, I once again invite you to engage the truth movement and start making the connections. This is not a "reliving of your experience with the Kennedy assassination."
With respect,
FOUR ARROWS
Cure all ? NO but a great step in right direction A much needed shot in the arm for the US Great job NO Americans killed. Kudos to our Navy Seals & Obama admin
WE must all demand US get out of Iraq / Afghan wars. go to www.whitehouse.gov www.congress.gov Speak out Now Do your part not just gripe
Doubt that sad to say Lets all demand the DOJ investigate them asap www.doj.gov
Conspiracies will abound Ignore them . Our US Navy Seals & Obama admin pulled off a great feat NO AMericans killed. Mission accomplished this time for real . Obama did what Bush & Cheney were not capable of . Yes this is a form of justice . Osama burned 3000 innocent people alive on 9 /11 .. One less evil man on this planet yes we know there are many more. Thats how human nature works
Terrorists May indeed have attacked our buildings in New York and else where in the world. I stand with a Us astronaut, countless high ranking military officers, former CIA and FBI officials scientist,
physicists and first responders who are still not satisfied with the results of the investigation and explanation of the official report on 911 collapse of the twin towers and Building 7 and the Pentagon.
Everyone cannot have tin foil on their head. I remain a skeptic and believe there are still terrorists within our government and industrial and corporate complex that deserve incarceration and some capital punishment for the events. I am not stupid and I'm not a sensationalist and I'm not naive. I am most certainly not alone. Everyday more and more citizens are exposed to the undeniable possibility that something is just not right with the official explanation of events that occurred on 911.
Does Killing Bin Laden change things? Not at all. We are moving closer and closer to authoritarian
control and the demise of democracy in the world. Personal freedom, privacy, and respect are being sold out to the highest bidder. I think it is time for a all out citizens strike in America. Shut down all production and service in the US until democratic order is restored and traitors of democracy are brought to justice.
The Muslims hate us. Ok, why ? Has anyone within our diplomacy explained that adequately. Some one with that much hatred usually has a cause. Not to defend that cause but to understand what might have taken place to inspire that kind of hatred within the muslim community.
In regard to Bin Laden ; what proof do we have. The evidence is at the bottom of the sea. I'm supposed to take the word of a government that lied about the events of 911 to begin with ?
Ronald Felton made an excellent point. Our CIA must now find the will to pursue Cheney, W., Rove, and Rummie as mass murderers and war criminals.
My understanding was, Bin Laden has been dead long ago. Could it be another Soap ~Opera? And again, 10% Perhaps tells me he not dead! The Gangsters will spend any amout$ to make it so of what ~We have to remember gangsters are running this world. Living off of you,me and other nation's poverty Gangater's have to have bodyguards, armored cars etc to protect itself while knowingly impoverishing others. And the beat go on.
@Ronald Felton, you make an excellent point!
I am reluctant to comment on the killing of bin Laden. I know that bin Laden was not a nice person. We live in an imperfect world where evil dominates our human nature. We live in an evil culture. The killing of a person is a mortal sin. A mortal sin separates us from God for eternity. I worked with a sagacious person who said that he would not run for political office because politicians must sell their souls to the devil. We have politicians who are embedded with Satan. Sad, very sad! We need Americans who stress the Eleventh Commandment and the Golden Rule.
“My God, my God, why have you forsaken the United States of Mortal Sin?” - gerald
Will Americans, as Satan’s disciples, ever come to believe in the words of John F. Kennedy? WAR WILL EXIST UNTIL THAT DISTANT DAY WHEN THE CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTOR ENJOYS THE SAME REPUTATION AND PRESTIGE THAT THE WARRIOR DOES TODAY. - John F. Kennedy
This all smells like a political ploy....I hope no one falls for it.
Now they are hauling out Colin Powell to tell us some more bull. Colin Powell lied to us once...didn't he? He lied, like a good soldier (puppet), for his master deceiver, Bush to get us into the wars and now he is being presented as someone we now should believe? Yeah, right. How gullible are the American people after all of the exposures of lying about WMDs and mushroom clouds?
Like General Smedley Butler said "War is a Racket" and the criminal "murder inc." corporations and weaselly, gutless politicians continue to gain wealth and power by killing people. They trash human rights and our constitution and besmirch our names while pretending we are a nation of honor and dignity. We are on the same path as NAZI Germany.
I can barely watch the news on TV without disgust in what I am hearing. They claim they killed OBL and they hide the evidence, yet again (hiding evidence...they're good at that) by saying they "gave OBL a traditional Muslim burial...at sea". Uh, duh, how dumb do they think we are? How gullible do they think the people are? There's a pattern here...they hastily shipped all of those steel beams from the WTC over seas to be melted down before anyone could investigate. That's destroying evidence of a crime scene. Looks like they are doing the same thing with OBL's body. So we are just supposed to believe these lying twits that they killed OBL? How do we know that OBL wasn't killed years ago? How do we know that OBL is not still alive...still a CIA asset? Can't believe anything the government or their network lapdogs tell us....it's all suspect...propaganda. They are getting us prepared for another false flag event to further imprison our minds and freedoms. The news media are really laying it on thick, aren't they? Really playing up the probably lies that OBL was the "mastermind" behind 911. The real masterminds are key powerful people in the US and probably Israel.
I am just amazed on how the right wingers are acting on a day like today! We had g.w.bush who by the way didn't give a damn about finding bin laden! It is time to fixs our country and get our boys home,also get rid of these neo-cons out for good!
Now we have gotten Osama let's be fair and turn Dick Cheney over to Al-Qaeda. After all he was responsible for many more deaths.
Ron, Monterey CA
This announcement comes at the same time as the huge announcement listed at the existentialistcowboy.com that American Airlines posted last week that flights 11 and 77 that hit the WTC and the Pentagon NEVER LEFT THE GROUND ON 9/11. Meaning that Bush/Cheney lied and clearly exposes the 9/11 lie. To blast this news from the media we get OBL dead. How do we get that it was his DNA and fingerprints...they just make a News announcement that they are his. Don't be duped or distracted from the real news. Please Louise, at least go read the post at theexistentialistcowboy.com and read this announcement from American Airlines.
Also ask yourself what a man of OBL 's age would look and cope after being on dialysis for over ten years. Certainly can't run or move very well. Bush wasn't interested in OBL because he knew he was already dead. Just google OBL dead and you'll be surprised at the preexisting information about his funeral.
How does Bin Laden build a $1 million compound???!! news reports said the compound was built 5 years ago specifically for Bin Laden. Where did the money come from? family? who built the compund? who's the offical owner? those questions I'm sure are being worked on but I dont see alot of specific answers yet.
It is no surprise that Osama is dead . When that actually occurred and The timing of the announcement of that news will remain in question (Libya/ Kadaphi's Grand Children ? ) because a body was dumped at sea within 24 hours after the announcement. Photographic evidence would be helpful, is there any ?
The burial at sea is going to feed conspiracy theories. But since they said the burial was done according to Muslim tradition, we should get an expert to explain whether part of the tradition is to do it that soon after death.
Benazir Bhutto, of course, mentioned in an interview "the man who killed Osama bin Laden", But on the Stephanie Miller Show this morning, one of the mooks brought up an Egyptian newspaper's claim in December 2001 that bin Laden had died from an untreated lung problem. Obviously, then, there is some disagreement even in the Muslim world how (and therefore whether) he died.
@Palindromedary, war is a waste of human life and of money that can be better used for the common good. I like the term elite cockroaches.
I took another quick peek at the Boob Tube and I see that the cockroaches are plying their propagandist trade...warning that we might get an attack in retribution for OBL's death. They are building up the propaganda. They have, just like in similar manner in Arabic countries where the people demonstrate with the hands in the air when the cameras are turned on them, an idiotic staged flag waving display by a bunch of useful idiots who are falling for the same stupidity and showing their same ignorance of who their real enemies are. The tiny group behind the fence, waving their flags, are skillfully encompassed by the camera to make it look like there are a lot of them. I wonder if any of them had lost their jobs or their homes due to the criminalities and ponzi schemes of the ruling elite cockroaches that they are now helping. Do you think our government can get away with yet another false flag operation...another stand down of air force and other supposedly protective organizations? Who are they going to sucker as patsies this time? Will you fall for the same crap again?
@Gerald:
"going after bin Laden was a phony excuse to go to war and rape the natural resources from Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya"
Yup, I sure agree with you there! The cockroaches that have control over this country are a pestilence that greedily commit mass murder in order to get what they want. I listened to the news telling about how Osama bin Laden is dead but they also quickly said "oh, but there are still lots of Al Qaida that need to be taken care of". It wouldn't matter if all there were in Afghanistan were sheep herders, our propaganda ministers will still tell us lies to keep us there. Now the question is are the cockroaches cooking up another false flag operation (like 911) saying that our killing OBL will cause a blow-back attack from terrorists? The politics and financial situation in the US is so dire now that everyone is not buying into the stupid lies that are being told to them about the economy....printing more money and throwing it into the banking system and trying to create yet another bubble in Wall Street (the Dow is up kind of bull-sh!t) while many Americans don't have jobs and are worried about where their next meal is going to come from and where to find shelter....the cockroaches might use another false flag distraction. Where can we expect to see this happen next? New York again? Chicago, DC, San Francisco? I'm sure the cockroaches have already found their patsies and are getting them set up to take the fall like last time. Question is...will people be stupid again like last time and go on the war path against the nations set up to take the blame or will they catch on and see that they are being used as useful idiots for the wealthy cockroaches who are engineering the whole disgusting scenario?
In the first quarter of this year the Oil Mega Multi-Nationals Corporations have made record Profits - $$$26-40 Billion!!
And we are paying $4-5.00+ gas at the gas pump! Everything made with oil - UP! Everything shipped with Oil - UP!
Don't you get the feeling that these Mega-Corporations are waving a BIG Middle Finger at the American People, taunting us? That they are laughing their collective criminal minds at the American People and basically stating to every American - We are more powerful than any Nation or Government! Basically screaming at The American people - Stop Us If You Can or dare!
Well we can and we eventually will!