Proportionality

Moral decisions in and of themselves cannot be considered immoral unless you know proportionality. There are three actions to consider in proportionality, such as intentions, circumstances, and consequences. I cannot judge Bush and Obama but I have perceptual opinions.

Here are my perceptual opinions regarding Bush’s attack and Obama’s policies and practices upon Iraq.

Intention – Bush wanted to make himself look like a big man to his father and to himself. Oil may have also been an intention as well as permanent military bases. Obama’s continuous policies and practices of the Bush administration reveal more clearly that oil is a big factor in our attack of Iraq.

Circumstances – Bush lied to Americans that Iraq was an imminent threat to America’s safety and security. Obama offers more elegance in his lying to the American people. If we do not go into Iraq, they will come here and we will no longer be safe and secure. Do we feel safer and more secure now? The American government controls Americans through fear. Our government will always find a scapegoat to blame and in turn to control our people more and more.

Consequences – Bush’s decisions laid the groundwork for war crimes, mass murders, crimes against humanity, torture, and rape of a foreign land. Americans have their freedoms and rights taken from them through the Patriot Acts. Obama has also embraced the Patriot Acts and the war in Iraq. Both Bush and Obama are war criminals. Obama continues with Bush’s policy of crimes against humanity.

America’s economy is such that the middle class is being dissolved. Contracts are given to boyfriends and Americans do not know where the money is going.

Bush’s attack upon Iraq raises proportionality to a level that his decision to attack Iraq is an immoral act. Obama continues a disproportional attack upon Middle Eastern countries, such as Pakistan and Yemen. Grave eternal consequences are upon these persons and their souls and also with the people and their souls who have agreed with these brutal and inhumane actions upon the Middle Eastern people. Obama’s drone policy is an immoral act with grave consequences.

I sense that the United States of Satan's Disciples is wallowing in the darkest pit of hell.

@WhiteBear, I, too, would like to hear Thom's comments on our probable Iran attack. I will include an article in my next comment. Obama is more of a war criminal than Bush II. Try to figure that one out!!!

"Lunch with Bernie" and the whole Thom Hartmann "shtick" is getting more than a little tiresome. Thom is clearly protecting the Senator from any real discussion of Obama and the Democrats failure to present and fight for a genuine progressive agenda. We have proof positive from the Wikileaks revelations that the US government is involved in an unwinable, immoral and genocidal war in Afghanistan (not news to me). These revelations are dismissed by the Senator with the lame "We need to find a better way of dealing with the Taliban and international terrorists". End of discussion. On to the next attack on the despicable minority Republicans. And the Democratically controlled congress, like the trained monkeys they are, vote for $Billions more every time the Pentagon demands it. Furthermore, Obama is actively supporting the creation of a surveillance police state (see Washington Post "Top Secret America") by requesting more warrantless spying on Americans, this time their emails. Nothing has changed. It's all for show and in the margins. It's Dubya Redux. The wars and subjugation continue. The Banksters rule and the Pentagon and Militarists continue their insanity. Progressives who fall for this and vote for Democrats are FOOLS.

I can't wait for Thom to rationalize Obama's impending attack on Iran. That should be something.

Here is the answer to spur our economy.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Ending-Middle-East-Wars-Wi-by-Sherwood-Ross-100729-195.html

Deaf, dumb, and blind probally summarize the United States of Numb Nuts!!!

http://original.antiwar.com/roberts/2010/07/29/deaf-dumb-and-blind/

The folly of war!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/jul/27/folly-war-wikileaks-afghanistan

Dear Thom’s Listeners,

I knew it, I knew it! Thom Hartmann continues to amaze me. One of Americans has four terrorist files – domestic, foreign, humanitarian, and animal trainer. Thom admitted on his radio show, July 29, 2010, that Higgins will attack larger animals. We knew that he attacks human beings. Information on Thom’s terrorist activities keeps piling up.

The FBI can without any subpoena check our internet. They can build any case against average Americans. We must now feel the noose tightening around our necks in our lost freedoms. The America and the American dreams are now shattered forever. We can no longer trust our elected officials and our federal government.

Sincerely, Gerald

www.pahrumplife.org writes: Just in case the choir has not seen this yet, here is the article and video, showing a question-evading governor, from a good reporter at KPHO Phoenix TV concerning Corrections Corporation of America (CCA) lobbyists apparently tied to AZ Governor Jan Brewer as top advisors.
http://www.kpho.com/news/24362212/detail.html Reply

re: #23, in Spanish, "dog house" is translated as "servant's quarters".

Obama seeks to expand arms exports by trimming approval process

The United States is currently the world biggest weapons supplier — holding 30 per cent of the market — but the Obama administration has begun modifying export control regulations in hopes of enlarging the U.S. market share, according to U.S. officials.

President Barack Obama already has taken the first steps by tucking new language into the Iran sanctions bill signed in early July. His aides are now compiling the "munitions list," which regulates the sale of military items.

http://tvnewslies.org/tvnl/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=...

Future amo to use against our troops?