@Jeanie, yeah a credit card would be enough for the store to track what you bought with it and when... your bank too.
I'm still not convinced that giving your information on a Social Site, is the same as giving out your intimate information. I doubt one would put their SSN out publicly, or credit card info (at least I hope no one does that). I'll just leave the rape analogy alone, I'm still not seeing the correlation.
@Maxrot #25: One of the towns I lived in had such stupid criminals that they would have needed an escort to get them to the house they wanted to shoot up. It happened a block from where I lived; we moved shortly after.
Really need to improve our educational system so I don't get shot, kidnapped, beaten, etc.
Regarding the South Korean baby scheme and the like, I remember hearing that Al Queda had Muslim moms come here and have their babies so that they'd be automatic American citizens and so not as trackable (like thru Visas) when they planned our doom and destruction 25-30 years in the future. That would suck. If it were true.
Thankfully, living in an apartment complex as I do, there isn't a street view available on Google Earth. Thankfully, they didn't go into apartment parking lots with their 360 degree car.
Street view needs to be improved actually. If I enter my address into it, I get a location that's about 3 - 4 doors down. Which could be a real bad thing, because people using it to determine whatever about certain people (sex offender for instance) might think your house is where they live.
@Thom: Many states have legislated that the police and other public employees have "a reasonable expectation of privacy" when operating on behalf of the state in public. Illinois and Massachusetts call audio recording of the police "eavesdropping" or "wiretapping."
In Illinois, recording the audio of YOUR OWN ARREST is a Class 1 Felony, punishable by up to THIRTY YEARS (30) in prison.
See http://www.c-drew.com/blog or write umcac@art-teez.org to get info on Chris Drew's ordeal at the hands of the state.
And my example was not about what is logical or makes sense, but what could possibly be used against you in court. If you "give it away", regardless of what "it" is, well, you must not mind if someone takes it. Consensual or not. Maybe I'm worried about nothing.
I marvel at how some of you can make jokes about anything. It makes things more pleasant.
If corporations = persons, and money spent politically = speech, does that mean if a judge issues a gag order on a corporation, they can no longer spend money politically while under that order?
If so, what would happen if politicians started sueing corporations (or labor unions) just prior to their campaign to keep them from spending money against them?
@harry and Gene, you kinky nuts, I before E and sometimes Y. Shame on you, shame on you both for discussing such foul things on a public blog. Don't you know there can be children reading this? Disgusting, just disgusting.... though I totally agree on the except after C though, I mean really that's the only way it should be done.
@Jeanie re How did they know you bought over-the-counter medicine? Two possibilities come to mind; 1 Do you have and use one of those store provided discount cards? 2 Did you use a credit or debit card to make the puchase. If so, who you are and what you bought is data they harvested.
re How can you complain about someone stealing your ID if you practically give it away, a lawyer might argue. It works for rapists. How can you claim you were raped if you've done X, Y and Z before? I'm not following this line of thought. I'm pretty sure a victim of rape can claim it if they claim the experience isn't consensual (now what is and isn't considered consensual may be open to debate in some particular cases, and yes lawyers are good at stretching the perception of it). In either case (ID theft or rape) if it is brought to trial, you're going to get lawyers who try all sorts of strange strategies, doesn't mean that the crimes don't happen, nor do they not get successfully prosecuted. Our justice system is far from perfect (and seemingly corrupted), but it is founded in good principals.
@Harry #39: You must be one of those commie pinko Nazi Stalinist Maoist cretins who can read! Stop it!
re; 36: what's wrong with Mary, Typhus, I hear...
@Jeanie, yeah a credit card would be enough for the store to track what you bought with it and when... your bank too.
I'm still not convinced that giving your information on a Social Site, is the same as giving out your intimate information. I doubt one would put their SSN out publicly, or credit card info (at least I hope no one does that). I'll just leave the rape analogy alone, I'm still not seeing the correlation.
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Corps do! what the F"#&???!!!
Hysterical, "Hello Mr. Hartmann Higgens has been deemed a threat to society! lol ! Good one Jacob! BTW- what's wrong with Mary?
Dang, Harry, it's hard to flip a Frisbee!
I dont want to go 'round and 'round about this frisbee thing.
re: #32: now, lets not be flip!
Hey...new...used to the Steph blog...how does this work here?
The Frisbertarians say that when you die, your soul gets stuck on the roof.
@Maxrot #25: One of the towns I lived in had such stupid criminals that they would have needed an escort to get them to the house they wanted to shoot up. It happened a block from where I lived; we moved shortly after.
Really need to improve our educational system so I don't get shot, kidnapped, beaten, etc.
@Harry- I keep Frisbees beneath my car seat, always desparate for someone to throw one to me.
Regarding the South Korean baby scheme and the like, I remember hearing that Al Queda had Muslim moms come here and have their babies so that they'd be automatic American citizens and so not as trackable (like thru Visas) when they planned our doom and destruction 25-30 years in the future. That would suck. If it were true.
I googled my house and found my frisbee!
Thankfully, living in an apartment complex as I do, there isn't a street view available on Google Earth. Thankfully, they didn't go into apartment parking lots with their 360 degree car.
Street view needs to be improved actually. If I enter my address into it, I get a location that's about 3 - 4 doors down. Which could be a real bad thing, because people using it to determine whatever about certain people (sex offender for instance) might think your house is where they live.
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@Thom: Many states have legislated that the police and other public employees have "a reasonable expectation of privacy" when operating on behalf of the state in public. Illinois and Massachusetts call audio recording of the police "eavesdropping" or "wiretapping."
In Illinois, recording the audio of YOUR OWN ARREST is a Class 1 Felony, punishable by up to THIRTY YEARS (30) in prison.
See http://www.c-drew.com/blog or write umcac@art-teez.org to get info on Chris Drew's ordeal at the hands of the state.
Maxrot,
I did use a credit card.
And my example was not about what is logical or makes sense, but what could possibly be used against you in court. If you "give it away", regardless of what "it" is, well, you must not mind if someone takes it. Consensual or not. Maybe I'm worried about nothing.
I marvel at how some of you can make jokes about anything. It makes things more pleasant.
If corporations = persons, and money spent politically = speech, does that mean if a judge issues a gag order on a corporation, they can no longer spend money politically while under that order?
If so, what would happen if politicians started sueing corporations (or labor unions) just prior to their campaign to keep them from spending money against them?
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re: #20: and don't forget the Greek letters for more fun!
@harry and Gene, you kinky nuts, I before E and sometimes Y. Shame on you, shame on you both for discussing such foul things on a public blog. Don't you know there can be children reading this? Disgusting, just disgusting.... though I totally agree on the except after C though, I mean really that's the only way it should be done.
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That's a Deal! -Insert 'Natural' before the word Corporations do destroy corporate personhood.
Great idea! Swap!
No, Y not
@Jeanie re How did they know you bought over-the-counter medicine? Two possibilities come to mind; 1 Do you have and use one of those store provided discount cards? 2 Did you use a credit or debit card to make the puchase. If so, who you are and what you bought is data they harvested.
re How can you complain about someone stealing your ID if you practically give it away, a lawyer might argue. It works for rapists. How can you claim you were raped if you've done X, Y and Z before? I'm not following this line of thought. I'm pretty sure a victim of rape can claim it if they claim the experience isn't consensual (now what is and isn't considered consensual may be open to debate in some particular cases, and yes lawyers are good at stretching the perception of it). In either case (ID theft or rape) if it is brought to trial, you're going to get lawyers who try all sorts of strange strategies, doesn't mean that the crimes don't happen, nor do they not get successfully prosecuted. Our justice system is far from perfect (and seemingly corrupted), but it is founded in good principals.
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And sometimes Y.