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Under the heading of a "national threat" I believe by Presidential order, the President could proceed immediately if necessary. We immediately ordered all air traffic to land following 9-11. It didn't take an act of Congress. I don't think we NEED a law like that.
Americans must accept their fate as prisoners in their own country.
http://www.fff.org/blog/jghblog2010-06-17.asp
@harry ashburn, I have to remember the eyebrows. I have seen some men who who have used their nose hairs for a moustache. The nose hairs will probably grow faster. Harry, ear hairs will take several years to be ready on a bald head.
@mstaggerlee, ear hairs will give a person a hippie look. Your remedy is quicker and less hassle but there are men who want their own hair covering their body.
I'm not saying I know oil is leaking thru the seabed, I don't trust the msm main-stream media to tell me the truth, and almost all the sources about this topic are from non msm media.
Regarding the FDL video: Sorry this is so late...PC froze as I tried to login toward the end of the show... I am not a petroleum geologist, but am a Ph.D. metamorphic petrologist [geologist] and fairly familiar with drilling etc., though not in great detail.
The FDL video clearly is of the sea floor, *not* the deck of a drill rig. The behavior of the plumes clearly are underwater, and the Poseidon is one of the submersibles from which you can access the ongoing feeds; you also can see various bits of debris [and/or organisms(?)] floating by. Have you ever seen a rock surface? Outside of jointed [fractured] surfaces, they tend not to be perfectly smooth.
However, I do not know you can state just what you are seeing in the video; they appear to be plumes including oil, but the lighting is not great and at least some of the material seemingly might have been stirred up by the submersible. Also, remember there *are* natural hydrocarbon seeps...think La Brea Tar Pits [or Jed Clampett]. That said, I would not be able to characterize what those typically might look like.
Jim in New Haven
not to mention the chicken tenders.
@Jeanie, well that's if as Thom said the companies don't do it. Personally when the companies that provide the machines are ran by conservatives, and they refuse to let the code to be seen, I tend to believe the rotten smell I detect is coming from the decaying corpse I see.
Cracking any machine is possible, there is not now or ever has been a computer that people couldn't hack into, in several different ways. Proving you can do it, doesn't prove that's how it was done. I doubt seriously that only conservative crackers exist, and they're only switching progressive votes. All evidence I've come across points to the makers and machine tenders.
N
@rural activist: I can't call ... NSA is listening. We do need a Trident submarine or two, though.
There is a feature in EMACS editor/mail program that randomly inserts strings of key words that guys like Captain Black are looking for. The method is "META Spook."
Give them their weight in horse manure.
Give me a call, I'll fight right beside you my fellow countrymen (and women)! I want a better future for my children and grandchildren and yours too! @Gene Savory
@Jeanie: When the crowds show up with their pitchforks and torches the politicians will race to the front of the line and pretend they were leading all along. (I stole this from a good source.)
Secrecy; control of information and therefore a means to control people, is the first sign that the politicians are NOT doing any work for people who don't give them a ton of gold.
Certainly Noam Chomsky is technologically literate. Could be his kinda sorta anarchist views (which I largely share) which may object in principle to voting. I think there's truth in the anarchist slogan: If voting could change anything they'd make it illegal.
Are we China? Doesn't China do the same thing whenever they feel "threatened"? I don't remember becoming a communist country. Are we still a democracy? It seems our rights are only on paper and not really enforceable unless you have enough money to buy them back. It is long past the time to get out there and DEMAND our rights. Let them try and shut the internet down, then the youth WILL rise up and march on Washington in protest. Perhaps this will accelerate the revolution!
Regarding what Gene Savoy said above about Noam Chomsky said, and the general unwillingness of Dems to go into the electronic voting issue, there could be one more reason: they don't really understand it. They don't really understand how easily it is to hack into, I mean. I remember with the Y2K issue, many legislators couldn't wrap their heads around why it could have been a huge issue that could have affected an enormous amount of our lives. Not to say they aren't smart people, but it is too technological for some.
I was able to switch 600 votes with my garage door opener!
Maxrot, then how do the votes get switched if, as Thom said, the companies who made them probably don't do it themselves? Didn't Bev Harris show how easily they could be hacked into?
We can't get rid of the machines! Paper is too complicated!
@n8chz: All you have to do is show up with your support vessel and crew. We're likely to need a CVL with 10 Apache helicopters, or an oiler or two.
Time and date to be arranged.
@Jeanie, I'm don't think the machines are hooked into the internet. Also its likely that the programs that run them are predefined to switch certain percentages of votes, so that even if they were hooked into the internet, you wouldn't need a cracker modifying them in real time (too easy to see and too risky).
I would like to see the machines banned, as well as a more unified voting system implemented.
N
#34 great idea!
Look who is cashing BP’s checks:
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2010/06/enviros-push-bp-10-dump-campaign-cash
It's amazing that so many people are apathetic about politics. But, who cares?
Because the Democrats by and large refuse to discuss electronic voting and Republicans won't because it benefits them 100% of the time, we only have one option: hack into the voting machines ourselves. Find a weak Democrat and hack into the system and make that Democrat win by 15,000 more votes than there are registered voters. And do it again and again until you have Republicans outraged and demanding accountability and a system to count the votes.
And I am normally a rule-follower not a rule-breaker.
I just now spoke with you about public unions, and was not able to complete my thought before I was accused of using a Republican talking point. Actually, what I was trying to say is that because many of the public unions have pensions that are ultimately guaranteed by the taxpayer (when pension investments tank) UNTIL we have a more progressive tax rate, the costs of these pensions will fall on those who will least be able to afford them. And there is also some abuse, especially by those higher up in the food chain. Recently, we had a vote here in Arizona to increase the sales tax by 1% to support police, firefighters and teachers. I voted for this, although I fear it is a regressive tax. I am a progressive, but I do not want to create a three-tiered society: the oligarchy, the public sector middle class and the rest of us. Until unions are able to bring in members of the private sector and stop the offshoring of jobs, I am afraid this is what will happen.
When Noam Chomsky spoke at Fermilab a few years back, one of the questions regarded the dangers of the black box voting machines. Dr. Peter Limon expressed a real concern. Chomsky essentially said to ignore the e-voting issue. If the people are concerned and motivated, stealing an election will be the least of the problems that illigitimate politicians will face.
Interesting, but I kind of like having an actual, provable record of the people's intent.