Thom's piece on "breaking" and the subsequent caller was absolutely chilling for me. I grew up in NYC, currently live in LA (although I went to high school at Interlochen Arts Academy, in northern Michigan, which I mention only because Thom is from MI) and I had no idea of this and what Jim de Mint was really saying. Thank you for this insight.
That said, I wish you the best of luck working within the Democratic Party. It is true, no doubt that delegates can influence the platform committees. The 2008 Democratic Party Platform called for the end of the Iraq war. It goes on...
DeMint is also 1) the one pushing the congressional Republican policy of "NO," as well as 2) leader of a congressional delegation to Honduras after the military coup there:
"DeMint Honduras Trip Planned In Defiance Of U.S. Policy"
MICHAEL MOORE: Well, I mean, to me, it all comes back to this issue of an economic system that is truly evil. And the healthcare bill that was passed ultimately will be seen as a victory for capitalism, because it protected the capitalist model of providing healthcare for people. In other words, we’re not to help people unless there’s money to be made from it. That is so patently disgusting and immoral, but that’s the system. That’s where we live.
And that’s why they’re not really going to do anything to the banks. Chris Dodd, the other day, saying—you know, when he proposed his bill, he says, “Well, you know, we don’t really want to punish Wall Street or these banks.” Oh, really? I want to punish them. I know a lot of people that want to punish them. In fact, I thought that was the whole idea of those of you who believe in your criminal justice system, that the way we reduce crime is to make examples out of those who commit crimes. If people know that they’re going to go to jail for a certain period of time, that may act as an incentive not to commit the crime. All we’ve—we’ve done the exact opposite: we’ve rewarded the criminals by giving them more money.
So I think that—you know, I mean, I’ve been making these movies for twenty years now, and I said this to you a few months ago, Amy, at—we were out there in Utah—that‘s right, we were in Utah—and it all comes back to this central issue, that unless we restructure our economic system, where we the people control it and it’s set up to fairly divide the pie, so that nobody goes without, we’re going to continue to see more decisions made that benefit the richest one percent that control more of our financial wealth in this country than the bottom 95 percent combined.
So, what to do? Is it reasonable to think that working within this system will ever change anything of substance? I remember Mr. Clinton building a marble monument to FDR while at the same time dismantling the safety net that was Roosevelt's true legacy.
What is it about the citizenry of the United States? Compare us to workers in France:
Train Services Disrupted In France As Rail Workers Strike Over Pension Reforms
3/23/2010 11:40 AM ET
(RTTNews) - Train services across France were disrupted Tuesday as rail workers went on a nationwide strike to protest the Nicholas Sarkozy-led government's plans to reform the pension system.
The strike supported by leading French trade unions will throw normal life out of gear in France with functioning of the public sector including schools, post offices and state media likely to be hit.
Besides, the striking workers are to stage public rallies in some 180 cities in France.
Although domestic train services were hit, international trains such as the Eurostar service between London and Paris remained unaffected.
The "job action" comes ahead of talks between Sarkozy and trade union representatives scheduled for later this month and also in April to discuss the proposed reforms to the country's pension system.
The workers are now saying that talks should also address key areas like job security, rising cost of living and working conditions.
The stir might prove to be a "rite of passage" for Labor Minister Eric Woerth who replaced incumbent Xavier Darcos following his party's humiliating defeat in Sunday's regional elections.
According to Francois Chereque, head of France's influential CFDT union, rising unemployment and stressful working conditions contributed to the prevalence of an "explosive" climate among workers.
It appears that the American workforce has been similarly broken
This is the last day I can listen to the show for the foreseeable future, because I finally got a job. But I will sign off with this:
I got involved. I went to my precinct caucus a week ago and ended up becoming a delegate to the county caucus, because I was one of the two people in my precinct that actually showed up. Our precinct was supposed to have 4 delegates. On top of that, the precinct caucus is your opportunity to propose items for the party platform, or sign up as an election judge or precinct committee member.
We just called the Governor's office to show our displeasure with the Attorney General's frivolous lawsuit. Also asked where the money is coming from to pay for the lawsuit. She was so interested that she didn't even ask our address. We are so broke, but there is money for political lawsuits.
@Quark, bad? no not bad at all. Instead of thinking about it, Bachmann will just believe that even some Democrats support her and go even further to the wacky side (right side... whatever). If you call her again, try real hard to sound as sincere as you can be (no giggling and cackling until your off the phone).
Thom makes me think that "true progressives" like to keep things "in the family." Why would Republicans change the subject to gays (or something) when immigration reform is one of the next items on the agenda? The gay issue is just a diversion; people whether right-wing or "populist" can always find common cause when it comes to dark-skinned immigrants, regardless of status.
I just called all three offices of Rep. Michele Bachmann. I left a message to say that, as a Democratic activist, I urge Michele to push on with her anti-healthcare legislation as loudly and strongly as she knows how.
Thom's piece on "breaking" and the subsequent caller was absolutely chilling for me. I grew up in NYC, currently live in LA (although I went to high school at Interlochen Arts Academy, in northern Michigan, which I mention only because Thom is from MI) and I had no idea of this and what Jim de Mint was really saying. Thank you for this insight.
harry ashburn,
Re: "I suppose he’s already been called DeMinted?"
I will try to remember to call him that from now on! LOL
Washington State Residents:
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Residents of other states:
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@Nels: re:"DeMint is real piece of work."
I suppose he's already been called DeMinted?
@mathboy,
Congrats on the job!
That said, I wish you the best of luck working within the Democratic Party. It is true, no doubt that delegates can influence the platform committees. The 2008 Democratic Party Platform called for the end of the Iraq war. It goes on...
@Nels, I don't want to go 'round and 'round about this.. Whirlpool is cool!"
"D'ya think Wilma Flintstone had dinosaur-powered, hand-held small appliances that didn't appear on the show?" - harry ashburn
mathboy,
Congratulations! Be well. We will miss you. Come back when you can.
harry ashburn,
Re: “Humans…the other white meat” – bumper sticker seen on a UFO
Love it!
DeMint is also 1) the one pushing the congressional Republican policy of "NO," as well as 2) leader of a congressional delegation to Honduras after the military coup there:
"DeMint Honduras Trip Planned In Defiance Of U.S. Policy"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/02/demint-honduras-trip-plan_n_307...
DeMint is real piece of work.
@harry, something in my gut says 'Whirlpool' (something to match her mental landscape) :-)
@Nels, assuming, that is, that there is still a brand made in USA, therefore eligible to run.
@Nels: Hotpoint, probably so. Frigidaire, probably not.
@Nels: Hotpoint, probably, Frigidaire, probably not.
@Nels, depends on the brand.:D
From Today's Democracy Now!
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/3/23/michael_moore_health_care_bill_a
MICHAEL MOORE: Well, I mean, to me, it all comes back to this issue of an economic system that is truly evil. And the healthcare bill that was passed ultimately will be seen as a victory for capitalism, because it protected the capitalist model of providing healthcare for people. In other words, we’re not to help people unless there’s money to be made from it. That is so patently disgusting and immoral, but that’s the system. That’s where we live.
And that’s why they’re not really going to do anything to the banks. Chris Dodd, the other day, saying—you know, when he proposed his bill, he says, “Well, you know, we don’t really want to punish Wall Street or these banks.” Oh, really? I want to punish them. I know a lot of people that want to punish them. In fact, I thought that was the whole idea of those of you who believe in your criminal justice system, that the way we reduce crime is to make examples out of those who commit crimes. If people know that they’re going to go to jail for a certain period of time, that may act as an incentive not to commit the crime. All we’ve—we’ve done the exact opposite: we’ve rewarded the criminals by giving them more money.
So I think that—you know, I mean, I’ve been making these movies for twenty years now, and I said this to you a few months ago, Amy, at—we were out there in Utah—that‘s right, we were in Utah—and it all comes back to this central issue, that unless we restructure our economic system, where we the people control it and it’s set up to fairly divide the pie, so that nobody goes without, we’re going to continue to see more decisions made that benefit the richest one percent that control more of our financial wealth in this country than the bottom 95 percent combined.
So, what to do? Is it reasonable to think that working within this system will ever change anything of substance? I remember Mr. Clinton building a marble monument to FDR while at the same time dismantling the safety net that was Roosevelt's true legacy.
What is it about the citizenry of the United States? Compare us to workers in France:
Train Services Disrupted In France As Rail Workers Strike Over Pension Reforms
3/23/2010 11:40 AM ET
(RTTNews) - Train services across France were disrupted Tuesday as rail workers went on a nationwide strike to protest the Nicholas Sarkozy-led government's plans to reform the pension system.
The strike supported by leading French trade unions will throw normal life out of gear in France with functioning of the public sector including schools, post offices and state media likely to be hit.
Besides, the striking workers are to stage public rallies in some 180 cities in France.
Although domestic train services were hit, international trains such as the Eurostar service between London and Paris remained unaffected.
The "job action" comes ahead of talks between Sarkozy and trade union representatives scheduled for later this month and also in April to discuss the proposed reforms to the country's pension system.
The workers are now saying that talks should also address key areas like job security, rising cost of living and working conditions.
The stir might prove to be a "rite of passage" for Labor Minister Eric Woerth who replaced incumbent Xavier Darcos following his party's humiliating defeat in Sunday's regional elections.
According to Francois Chereque, head of France's influential CFDT union, rising unemployment and stressful working conditions contributed to the prevalence of an "explosive" climate among workers.
It appears that the American workforce has been similarly broken
This is the last day I can listen to the show for the foreseeable future, because I finally got a job. But I will sign off with this:
I got involved. I went to my precinct caucus a week ago and ended up becoming a delegate to the county caucus, because I was one of the two people in my precinct that actually showed up. Our precinct was supposed to have 4 delegates. On top of that, the precinct caucus is your opportunity to propose items for the party platform, or sign up as an election judge or precinct committee member.
Tag, you're it.
@harry, do you think it would be running for her or against her?
and dont ask if her refrigerator is running.
We just called the Governor's office to show our displeasure with the Attorney General's frivolous lawsuit. Also asked where the money is coming from to pay for the lawsuit. She was so interested that she didn't even ask our address. We are so broke, but there is money for political lawsuits.
@Quark, bad? no not bad at all. Instead of thinking about it, Bachmann will just believe that even some Democrats support her and go even further to the wacky side (right side... whatever). If you call her again, try real hard to sound as sincere as you can be (no giggling and cackling until your off the phone).
Thom makes me think that "true progressives" like to keep things "in the family." Why would Republicans change the subject to gays (or something) when immigration reform is one of the next items on the agenda? The gay issue is just a diversion; people whether right-wing or "populist" can always find common cause when it comes to dark-skinned immigrants, regardless of status.
@Nels and Quark: Bachmann MAY be capable of following simple commands.
"Humans…the other white meat” – bumper sticker seen on a UFO
Nels,
M'I bad...LOL! :-)
@Quark, how very optimistic of you to believe Bachmann it capable of thinking.
I just called all three offices of Rep. Michele Bachmann. I left a message to say that, as a Democratic activist, I urge Michele to push on with her anti-healthcare legislation as loudly and strongly as she knows how.
That will give her something to think about...