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Alice ALL true ! If only people were informed ..Voter 'Ignorance is NOT bliss' Its dangerous ! US is ( has been ) chummy with many dictators but we never learn.. It always comes back to bite us in the arse . US is now run and owned by billionaires, powerful anti middle class corps / DC lobbyists. Far right judges make laws that favor wealth ( Citizens United ) They gave us the best gov't MONEY CAN BUY ' Illinois new GOP Gov is Wis Gov Walker on steroids Gov Rauner spent 30 + million of his own money to buy his election with tons of ads on TV . This is NOT the country I grew up in ! We are in the Second 'Gilded Age' yet millions of gullible voters are clueless. I am fearful for my children and grandchildren. I vote -I donate - I post- write to Obama and congress..but it may be too late ..
Good timing talking about intra-party politics. Next week I'll be going to a reorganization meeting at which I'll vote on county party chair, legislative-district officers, etc.
Thank you, HT. Much appreciated. Not everyone here has to love me, but it sure is nice to have responses like yours once in a while. And ezwriter, thanks for sharing that link! I read the article, and some of the responses on the accompanying blog. Even added my two cents!
3rd-to-last paragraph: The national debt is not declining, the deficit is.
2nd-to-last paragraph: There's a weird edit leaving "but we, and we must." Was that supposed to be "but we can, and we must"?
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You said it Aliceinwonderland .you tell it like it is girl this is what we need in our world debate and dialogue asking why are these things taking place and what kind of belief's are creating such de-evolving behaviours .
Martin Luther King Jr said many things about violence as have so any other of our master teachers but we kill them all instead of heeding there greatest truths .
"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral ,begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy .Instead of diminishing evil ,it multiplies it .
"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only love can do that ."
"Returning violence for violence multiplies violence ,adding despair darkness to a night already devoid of stars ."
We need to build a new society "if not now ,when ?if not you who ?"
It all starts at the level of belief and who we choose to be and what as a species is humanity trying to do .
We are all one and there is no separation between what some call god which is life the seen and the unseen and ourselves individuations of the divine essence .
This is the only message that matters .It is the only message there is .Everything else in life is a reflection of this message .Everything else sends it .
The fact that we have so far failed to receive it (we have heard it often,but we have failed to receive it) is what has caused every misery .every sorrow ,every conflict ,every heartache in our experience .It has caused every murder ,every war ,every robbery ,every assault and attack,mental ,verbal,and physical.It has caused every illness and dis-ease .and every encounter with what we call "death".
The idea that we are not ONE is an illusion. Denial is used for the illusion to continue .
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Reply to posts #6 & #9: FOX tells the truth? I beg to differ.
For starters, I’d like to remind anyone needing to be reminded that FOX is not an American news outfit serving the American public; it is owned by neocon foreigners serving transnational corporate interests. Its only purpose is keeping Americans misinformed. It is not even a legitimate news organization with real journalists. Its two top shareholders are Rupert Murdoch the Aussie fascist, and Rupert’s sidekick, Saudi Prince what’s-his-face, who recently sold his #2 holding in this terrorist propaganda network. Anyone who listens to these thugs and takes them seriously is an idiot, and a gullible one at that.
All this attention focused on ISIS is a goddam joke, the hypocrisy of it downright crazy-making. Saudi Arabia is a country that beheads people it doesn’t like on a regular basis, that cuts off people’s hands and other body parts in public squares, that keeps women housebound and wrapped in ugly black sheets with slits for eyes. Most of the criminals complicit in the 9-11 twin tower attacks were Saudi, and after those attacks were carried out, Baby Bush the boy king couldn’t get Bin Ladin’s relatives flown out of the U.S. fast enough. That in itself should be considered an act of treason on Bush’s part.
As horrible and gruesome as the executions ISIS carries out, they are no more gruesome than the murder-by-drone attacks and in-your-face murders and rapes committed by the U.S. military in that part of the world on a daily basis. And like I’ve said here repeatedly, the U.S. government is the greatest terrorist organization on the planet, bar none.
Our country’s chummy relationship with Saudi Arabia turns my stomach. Nothing reflects who we are more than the friends we keep, and that goes for nations as well as persons. -AIW
Advertiser driven media will never discomfit its clients, big business, also because they are big business themselves and are equally invested in the common undertakings of big business.
The treaty is kept secret because, of course, the people are not to discover this monstrous crime. In the early 2000's there was similar secrecy about FTAA and when Lori Wallach's people were able to lift the text of it and get it on the internet. Then it was all over. The treaty was immediately scrapped.
It is such an egregious robbery of all the people of those regions of the world that it couldn't ever be passed without absolute secrecy. Even legislators can only view the text by special permission and then can't take notes or pictures or even talk about what they were able to glimpse of it in the short time they are allowed to view it. (I'd like to know by what authority they are forbidden to know or speak about it. Aren't they the highest authority in the land?)
The provisions of the treaty and the rules for passing it are illegitimate as they are without anything near adequate consent of the people and any disobedience regarding either, by the citizenry or legislators, would be justified.
What would be needed is to get the word out about it, something of the way of how FTAA was exposed. The big business, corporate media, of course, will be of no help.
The mainstream media needs to be discredited to the public. It's amazing how many people still believe in it, believe that if it's said in the mainstream media it must be true and if it's not it must not.
Here's one of many links that confirm what I've known for years. Fear mongering is a business, and corporations and the military industiral complex profit from it. Educate yourselves, and the fear will dissipate and no longer control you!
http://in5d.com/8-great-reasons-not-to-watch-the-news/
Considering the possibility that our own CIA is funding and supplying with weapons many of the 'terrorist' groups in the world and that main stream media is complicit in perpetuating the lie and fear that ISIS is real and backed by Islamic fanatics, perhaps we should contemplate looking for these answers behind the 'curtain'! Also considering the ample evidence that the beheadings being broadcast the last year or so were complete hoaxes, (once again to create fear for the public), maybe this 'video' is contrived as well! You must be aware that photo shop these days, as well as the graphic imagery that can be created for movies adds the possibility that this may be a fake video as well. You are spot on about Fox news Thom, but they aren't the only news agency that's lying. Corporations own 90% of all media, and you can bet that the corporations are profitting big time from war and military contracts and it's all connected in sometimes subtle ways. If you aren't sure about what I'm saying here, feel free to contact me. I have 100's of files and 1000's of articles saved, stashed, and shared to back up these claims. Sometimes venturing further down this rabbit hole, you may uncover some unsavory agendas and who's behind them, but in the end the truth will set humanity free.
Lies? Actually, Williams publicly addressed this issue, and did apologize. It was an isolated incident during a career, during which he has been/continuies to be noted for his integrity. It appears that this was more a matter of his words "coming out wrong," with no malicious intent. Regardless, Williams is neither a leftist nor left-leaning. Before Reagan, we called people with his (apparent) general point of view, "centrists." As for criticizing FOX, I really don't see what this would have to do with some notion of "being cool." On any scale, FOX has earned it's reputation for both misinformation and misleading information. There is a big difference between calling for censorship, and pointing out misldeading or false reports.
One interesting fact is that those on the far right have always attacked our leading newspeople, from Edward R. Murrow to Walter Cronkite, etc. There is no evidence that these newspeople lied; they merely had the audacity to report those things that the right wing didn't want reported.
OU812 ~ FOX News tells the News as it is, as it happens, and, in it's entirety, only when it suits their agenda. Here, they simply want to justify sending troops back into Iraq in the worst way. That is all this is about. Stop trying to paint them as some kind of responsible journalistic organization doing their job serving the community. They serve the community the same way Walmart does--like parasites. We both know who they serve, and it ain't the community or the country. They are the lapdogs for the corporate interests that own them, looking out for their own profits, and nothing else. You should ask yourself whenever you see them push a story, what's in it for them? If there was nothing in it for them this story would have been swept under the rug faster than the Wall Street investigation, occupy, environmental, anti Keystone, and anti war protests got swept under the rug. As far as I am concerned, selective journalism has been, still is, and always will be blatant propaganda. You can't have your cake and eat it too. You, above all, should know that.
This was largely phased out via the massive restructuring of US news corporations, etc., starting in the 1980s. Virtually all mainstream news comes out of only a handful of massive news corporations, largely tempered by (or reflecting) information from the corporate perspective. We get the news that they decide we should know, reported in the manner determined by these corporate entities.
Did they call for showing the multilated bodies in the aftermath of right-winger Timothy McVeigh's Oklahoma bombing, so that we could see the evils of the American right wing?
What happend to the journalistic responsibility of credible news reporting form an objective position. Just reporting the facts without the sensational game show hype. People capable of critical thinking are able to accept information and form their own opinions. Manipulative reporting used to be called YELLOW JOURNALISM and got us into the Spanich American War and the war in the Phillipines which Mark Twain objected to. There is big money directing the media today and especially FOX news as the devils emissary.
Showing the latest terror-video from ISIS is tragic, but not as tragic as the killing of tens of thousands of American men, women, and children PER YEAR by denying them healthcare coverage when they need it in order to live. In line with the enthusiastic support of the FOX "News Channel", most of the Republicans in our House of Congress just voted for the 56th time to inflict that level of damage on the American people. They clearly don't care how many Americans they kill, as long as they can continue to receiving money from wealthy right-wing sources by doing so. I find this to be far more outrageous.
Ou812 -- Fascinating. What you get out of this is that Faux news is telling the truth. You do not get the part about how much ISIS likes it. Acutally, Politifact (a little bit to the right as evidenced by calling Thom a "pants on fire liar" becuase it said the Koch bros "had 100 billion dollars in Canada tar sand oil reserves" rather than saying "up to a 100 billion dollars") says faux news tells the truth 40% of the time.
Mathboy, I see your in favor of censorship. Fox showing the burning of the pilot hasn't led us into war either, we have yet to make that decision. If it does led to war, it will be because the truth is told. I'd much rather be told the truth than be lied to by someone who thinks he knows what's best for me. BTW oneworldatpeace I never noticed Brian Williams was a white guy. I guess you judge people by the color of their skin.
Ou812, Brian Williams' story is inconsequential. It didn't lead a nation into war, or get anyone killed. The two cases are simply not equal.
Uh oh! The Lone Idiot got a friend.
Roland
Actually, there is no safe fission energy. Fusion energy can be safe and plentiful. Unfortunately the US terminated undirected scientific research fifty years ago, so the US will never be a player in fusion energy, just fusion bombs.
Roland
I'll have to repost my rewrite of the 2nd Amendment later tonight.
Done.
So censorship is ok if it's from the right? and Brian Williams is left leaning and not just another rich white guy telling a War Storey? ? I guess you're not an American but something else more important ?