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Hersh, whose exposés of gross abuses by members of the U.S. military in Vietnam and Iraq have earned him worldwide fame and high journalistic honors, said he was writing a book on what he called the "Cheney-Bush years" and saw little difference between that period and the Obama administration.
He said that he was keeping a "checklist" of aggressive U.S. policies that remained in place, including torture and "rendition" of terrorist suspects to allied countries, which he alleged was ongoing.
http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/01/18/seymour_hersh_unleashed
There are so many other ways people get murder everyday without guns! I can name many > The fingers are always pointed at the average people? Meanwhile everyday thousands vanish nobody notices. Their are cover ups. (Money exchanges, kept secret ) Change laws to suite the crime. If we only had laws in this country perhaps things would clear up and the laws should apply for everyone. The writing are on the wall. Its a crying shame !
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"In 2004, the National Academy of Sciences reviewed 253 journal articles, 99 books and 43 government publications evaluating 80 gun-control measures. Researchers could not identify a single regulation that reduced violent crime, suicide or accidents. A year earlier, the Centers for Disease Control reported on ammunition bans, restrictions on acquisition, waiting periods, registration, licensing, child access prevention and zero tolerance laws. CDC's conclusion: There was no conclusive evidence that the laws reduced gun violence."
http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/01/18/levy.anti.gun.control/index.html?h...
Facts are fun.
What did Arizona Republicans learn from the events in Tucson more than a week ago? Not a blessed thing!
Is Palin continuing to use stochastic terrorism?
"We never ever, ever intended it to be gun sights...It's a surveyor's symbol" --Rebecca Mansour, an aide to former Alaska governor Sarah Palin. This was the initial response on the ads targeting Rep Gilffords' district. But, in her recent interview with Hannity, Palin admitted that the symbols were indeed crosshairs. Did she go back to the crosshairs reference as a wink to her most "extremist" followers?
Look at the reaction to the murders and attempted murders in Arizona because of a young Neo-Con Manchurian Candidate who yielded the trigger. We have how many Manchurian Candidates in phony trumped up move the goal post occupations in Iraq and Afghanistan? Troops and mercenaries involved in the collateral damage justified by the fact that in America we view our lives as exceptional over other lives removed far away from view. The presidents speech was great and heartfelt in regards to this horrible act acted out for the media circus to floss its teeth with. Where is the outrage to the drone attracts making us and our world less stable. The president has authorized more drone attacks in his first nine months in office that King George Bush did in his entire stent as war chief and war crimes expert. Iraq has 50,000 troops and maybe 70,000 contractors, Afghanistan has about 150.000 troops as many contractors maybe. It is obvious who runs the show, the military they even make policy, hell they take 70% of our tax money. Gun nuts most of them and a good majority are Neo-Con American Jesus Republican Police State Lovers of Freedom....what a joke! Or is it just MIND CONTROL....! Where is the pain and loss as described in the wiki-leaks. Innocent children and people buy ten times being snuffed by our weapons of death.
Thom, I believe that showing a weapon for self-defense is the same as the formerly criminal act of "brandishing" a weapon.
Healthcare reform will start only when everyone understand that INSURANCE and MEDICINE should be separated. Ilnesss of the person is not insurance case.
9/11 Baby of Hope killed at age 9 in 2011. Bad, bad sign.
Democracy Now special for the whole hour: Martin Luther King Jr. in his own words. Excerpts from MLK's speeches one year and one day before his assassination by haters.
Today's topic was "What is the liberal agenda?" The Democrats will continue to lose the support of the left, their supposed base, until they sieze hold of and clearly stand for MLK's principal goals: Peace and Justice. The two are inseparable. The current Democratic leadership and most Dem representatives do not make a steadfast demand for peace - instead they continue wars of aggression and ridiculous levels of war spending - greater than the rest of the world combined.
Try the truth ... your incorrect facts not only try the truth you try patience and tolerance. You directly spew fear, hate and blame - little else. Humphries clearly implied that Giffords was to blame. There are NO strict gun laws in Arizona. The lost message in the OP is MLK's call for Peace and Justice which is not a message about gun control but a message of self control. If you fear and loathe liberals you must have really hated Bush who committed torture, indefinite detention, warrantless witretapping and searches, right?
But the laws aren't set up to weed out "everyone who isn't a nut" and there you have the fundamental flaw in your simplistic solution. When everyone can get a gun everyone becomes a target to the whims, inclinations & varying degrees of sociopathology lurking within each person whose finger is on the trigger. But let's do it – arm us all. We'll end up with a million WalMart warriors who get their basic training on YouTube mixed in with a few truly well trained professionals. Following your solution, Winterbeastie, the scenario In Tucson perhaps might have been different with fewer rounds fired by one deranged individual but likely resulting nonetheless, with as many, or more, people hurt, killed or maimed in the crossfire of all those amateur gun toters defending their rights to listen to their favorite politician in a public forum. That's not a world I want to consider.
More guns, less guns, it's basically the same issue - a divide and conquer strategy that keeps people fighting with each other and not paying attention to what is being done to them. Try this:
http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-chicago/a-realistic-view-of-gun-...
Gun Laws need to be revised
Guns are every bit as lethal if not more so, than cars and trucks. In order to own and operate a vehicle in the US one needs to have registration for the vehicle and an operators license - of course the laws vary by state but every state has this requirement. No such laws exist for owning or operating a gun. It is about time that we required both registration and an operators permit for gun owners, if not at the state level, certainly at the national level.
There should be a minimum age for acquiring a gun and there should be a required test to prove that the owner knows how to clean and operate a gun safely. There should be a complete background check on every individual and all states need to update the national database of persons who are mentally ill or suspected of being mentally ill.
Thom,
On this issue, I think you're full of beans. when a burglar knows he might face an armed resident, he's less likely to try to burglarise a particular home. Also, go look at what happend in Kennesaw. The crime rate went DOWN after they made it law that all residents had to have a gun and ammunition that fit it. I am a Blue-Steel Democrat. I am fully in favor of everyone who isn't a nut to have a self defence weapon. you should be for all the amendments, including the second. it's what made Tojo discount the idea of assaulting the mainland of the USA. he said: A RIfle behind every blade of grass.
We should take that to heart, Thom.
Winterbeastie.
..."states with Right-to-Carry laws may actually seen an increase in aggravated assault cases."
Poor grammar aside, this statement is void of any substantial...anything. Do you know what a "Right to Carry law" is, or is it being used here as a general catch-all? "May" have seen? What does that mean?
Fact: States with more lenient gun laws (i.e. those that have the fewest restrictions on Second Amendment rights) have less violent crime per capita. These are not hard statistics to look up. Compare Idaho, Alaska, Montana and Vermont (to name a few) per capita statistics to those of Illinois, New York, New Jersey and California. See what numbers you come up with.
In response to "garyej"....wow. I don't even know where to begin. "The free market had it banned" is, to put it mildly, an intellectually hollow argument. And devoid of any rational thought. Thirty round magazines (the catchphrase of the week, I guess) have been available for decades. Now they are more prevalent. Kinda like personal computers. Technology does that. Get used to it.
What they should have learned was that why. Why the push for CCW liberalization in the eighties, why people who normally would not own a gun are applying for CCWs. Fear. First Lady Roosevelt and some of the other freedom riders who packed really did have their life in danger, but someone who never leaves the suburbs? I remember when liberal Vermont was the only state where it was easy to carry concealed. When I was a kid in Wyoming, if you walked around with a holstered pistol, people would laugh at you. It was perfectly legal, but not done. From 1887 until they jumped on the liberalization band wagon in 1995, it was almost impossible for a Wyomingite to get a CCW for even a knife or sword cane (given the crime rate in my birth state, what would the point of getting one?)
One thing I noticed, and maybe Thom's brother and Ed Shultz have noticed the same thing, if you went to a gun show back before Regan the Sierra Club, National Wildlife Federation etc all had booths because they were geared for outdoors people. The only military stuff there was if a collector showed up with a couple of antique Thompsons. Thirty round magazines for a pistol? Would never sell, the free market had it banned. Then Reagan’s war on education and the middle class came along. I started to see John Muir being replaced by John Birch and crazy people pretending they were army rangers.
*sigh* It doesn't matter.
Jurisdictions which had prohibited concealed carry have changed over to permitting it. Net change in gun crimes? Zero.
Jurisdictions which had permitted concealed carry have changed over to prohibiting it. Net change in gun crimes? Zero.
"Why let any crisis go to waste?" That question could be equally well asked of both sides when it comes to "gun control".
The only people it matters to are the interest groups on both the left and the right that use each other as demons to gin up more contributions from their followers. It's a general waste of time for everybody else.
Those of us originally from California will never forget November 27, 1978, when Dianne Feinstein, President of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors, announced that Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk had been assassinated by former Supervisor Dan White. Allowing people to go wherever they want packing heat will inevitably cause trouble of the worst sort. If we do not learn the lessons of the Tucson Massacre, there will inevitably be another such tragedy and the only question will not be if, but when, it will happen.
Have you heard anyone – ANYONE – express surprise that this recent national tragedy occurred in Arizona? Stay tuned...
"They bring a knife... we'll bring a gun" Obama
"I'll kick her ass" Joyless BayHO
"Punish your enemies" Obama
Typical double-standard leftism.... and my list can go on and on... however, I agree that the more you unveil your hypocracy, the more you and your corrupt ideas of eliminating freedom will be exposed to the real americans in this country. God bless Glenn, Rush, Sean, and Sarah.
The United States of Mortal Sin has fulfilled her manifest destiny.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/From-Military-Industrial-C-by-Gareth-Porter-110117-859.html
Let's see, you say we need the fairness doctrine... From the time it was implemented in the forties through the eighties... we had JFK shot, RFK shot, MLK shot, Reagan shot... not to mention John Lennon shot...... then, from the late 80's until now we've had ..... Tuscon. Oh now i see why we need it!!!! I get it... to think like a progressive..simply ..take logic.. turn it inside out..and ..there!!! you have it!
In response to "nnnooooooooo ..... Fact... the eventual demise of the roman empire was financial... as a result of noooooooooo private sector... and tttooooooooo much government... Where do you think the "money" comes from to "fund" the government? To imply that private sector = corruption is the absolute opposite of the truth... which, atleast, coming from a progressive way of thinking is consistent.
"They bring a knife... we'll bring a gun" Barack Obama
"Punish your enemies on election day" Barack Obama
"they can sit in the "back".."
I'll kick her ass" Joyless BayHO
and I can go on and on.... Typical double standard leftism. If any of you people would actually listen to Glenn Beck in the enirety of his television or radio show, you would get the "entire" message. You continue to listen and watch your "lame" stream media regurgitate their bent versions of the truth as they wallow in their sespool of journalistic ineptitude without a trace of journalistic integrity. Case and point... look at their ratings... they suck. They suck...because, the people in this country know when they're being told half truths and outright lies. The people in this country are not the stupid herd of cattle that the left percieves them to be.
The Israeli propaganda machine is even worse.... the Israeli army bombs a building, killing 500 Palestinians to kill one suspected Palestinian terrorist, and the news claims all died of a Heart Attack.