Contrast the truly irrational extremes to which we go to protect people from a whiff of tobacco smoke with the lengths to which we go to essentially liberate gun owners from rules and increase their capacity to efficiently kill. Think I'd rather run into a puff of tobacco smoke than some enraged character with a gun that holds 30 rounds of ammo, but I'm just speaking for myself here.
On the psychiatric evaluation issue, many Americans misunderstand what this is about. It isn't used to determine mental illness per se, and indeed, the US is one of the only countries on Earth that does routinely imprison people who are verifiably seriously mentally ill. The intent of the evaluation is to determine if the individual even had the capacity to understand that shooting someone is against the law. If he understands that it's against the law, yet maintains that (for example) a "higher power" ordered him to shoot, he can stil be imprisoned. It must be determined that the shooter honestly had no ability to understand that the shooting was wrong, and this is almost impossibe to establish in court. Furthermore, no one has ever evaded legal responsibility by the "insanity defense." Under these laws, severely psychotic people will simply be sent to a mental hospital UNTIL it is determined that their psychosis has been brought under control, at which time they are then returned to the courts/prison. They are kept in seperate quarters specifically for the criminally insane which, by necessity, is very prison-like. If the individual is clearly permanently insane, he is likely to remain institutionalized for the rest of his life.
"psychiatric evalution" ? By what criteria ? Let me see, I have two bullet holes in my body and I don't want another one and anyone standing in the way of my wish needs assistance in showing me the way to the loony ben. Over stated perhaps but still and all , really , who's nuts ?
"A true revolution of values will lay hand on the world order and say of war, 'This way of settling differences is not just.'... A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death." - MLK
Health care providers deserve to be well paid. Insurance companies do NOT provide health care. To the contrary, they endeavor to deny health care to their customers whenever possible...and in a purely business sense, deprive the health care provider from serving the patient, thereby preventing the free enterprise they claim to promote and foster.
When I examine my conscience, I look at various notes to help me with my examination. There is one section of my examination that I do not particularly want to read or review. It talks about what is sin. There are various forms of sin and I conclude that we are all sinners.
Sin is not always breaking laws, but an absence of love. In America we despise the poor, the disenfranchised, and the underserved. We are a hateful nation. Sin is not necessarily in our actions, but in our attitude. People may have a holier-than-thou attitude that Jesus condemns.
Sin is not always something evil. Failure to do good is also sin. For example, “I was hungry and you did not feed me.”
Sin is refusing to grow, to change, and to not use your talents or skills. What is important is not how much we have received, but how we use what we have received.
Sin is unawareness. We are unaware of our true self, our true nature. We identify ourselves with the things we are not: our body, wealth, success, recognition. These become the gods that control our lives.
Love wants the best for another person or persons. When we love another person or persons, we want the very best for that person or persons.
Hatred, murders, torture, and wars reveal America’s true nature, an absence of love. Why do Americans embrace and glorify hatred, murders, torture, and wars?
The Sins of Our Father
We have frequently heard that Bush wants us to consider him as our father. I hope that your memories are not so short to forget what he has said to us. Americans are suffering from the sins of our father. Yes, Bush’s sinful decisions and ways are affecting our lives. His hatred, murders, war crimes, his lust for torture, his corruption, greed, decadence, and lies are affecting every American and we see the disastrous consequences of his actions, behaviors, policies, and practices.
Bush who claims to be our father has been a disaster for our country and her people. Yet, most Americans honor, praise, thank him for all the good he has given us, and we worship him in our evangelical churches and in our children’s camps. He in some ways is America’s adopted god. I am sharing with you my perceptual opinion of Bush.
Retribution for Sins
Let me share with you that I have some anger issues. These anger issues are keeping me from feeling that I am on the path to eternal salvation. A key anger issue I have is that goose-stepping Americans are unwilling to practice the Golden Rule. People, our problems can be resolved by doing away with hatred, corruption, and lies that are so rampant in our hell-hole we call the United States of Mortal Sin.
There is retribution for our sins. If we die, refusing to accept and return God’s love, we are damned to spend eternity in hell. Make no mistake hell is real! It may not be a place but it is real. It may be more of a state of mind. A feeling of emptiness and hopelessness is forever constant in our mind that we have chosen to turn our back on God and His love for us.
I would like to see health insurance reform AND accountability; health care reform and reasoned and reasonable tort reform, (I hate to use that term because of the cannotation, such as it is). I am a victim of all the aforementioned. For 12 years now I awake in the morning go upstairs, read, listen to the radio, watch videos we get from the library, or, (for the past week), go on the web. At night I go back downstairs and go to bed. 12 years now! This was due to a misdiagnosed brain stem anerysm and a system bent on fiegning responsibility and accountability. What can a diminished citizen do against a group of systems, working thick as thieves, to redress grievences?
After reading these blogs.... I was wondering if anyone can explain to me why statements are made in such general language with no existence of any "specific" foundation of information that would support such statements. Specifically, what "hate" rhetoric did Sarah Palin use to complain about such rhetoric??? Can anyone give me one example of a specific statement made by Glenn Beck that would be considered "hate" rhetoric??? It seems to create an element of "comfort" for you people to speak in such a vague fashion, therefore, reducing any rebutle that would prove an outright "lie" on your behalf. By the way, I have no affiliation with the right or the Republican party... I am simply an "American" with core values that line up with that of our founding fathers and the constitution. I know that this kind of rhetric, words like "American" and the "Constitution" seem to be percieved as "viole" by some... I just can't understand why. By the way, did you know that MLK's daughter has given her support to Mr Beck?
So, if stricter gun control laws were implemented... criminals would'nt be able to get guns. I believe Congresswoman Gifford supported the right to own guns... correct me if I'm wrong. Also, I find it strange that it was a "TeaParty" leader who was threatened... and we're just not talking too much about that...hhmmm..ok?
"I began thinking about the fact that stand in the middle of two opposing forces in the Negro community. One is a force of complacency, made up in part of Negroes who, as a result of long years of oppression, are so drained of self-respect and a sense of "somebodiness" that they have adjusted to segregation; and in part of a few middle class Negroes who, because of a degree of academic and economic security and because in some ways they profit by segregation, have become insensitive to the problems of the masses. The other force is one of bitterness and hatred, and it comes perilously close to advocating violence. It is expressed in the various black nationalist groups that are springing up across the nation..." - MLK, Letter from Birmingham Jail.
Negro can very easily be replaced with Poor and black nationalist groups can be replaced with Tea Party. The parallels to today are evident.
I am convinced that most people under the age of 40 do not grasp the full message of MLK. I recall the history books of my age (42) giving cursory mention of MLK, concentrating exclusively on his marches and his speech from the Lincoln Memorial. The basic tenor of the lesson was he fought exclusively for civil rights for blacks. There was no mention of his jailhouse writings or his calls to end poverty and war. It was years after I graduated from high school did I learn he was awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace. Sad.
Here is my perceptual opinion on sin. Our pastor had a very good homily on sin for January 15, 2011. He gave us a brief history on sin since the 1960s. In the 1960s there was less emphasis on personal sin. There are still personal sins but the emphasis was less on this sin. In the 1970s there was more emphasis on social sin. The emphasis of this sin was more on how we relate to and treat people. Our country displays a deep and widespread relationship with social sins. I see many of our politicians deeply involved in committing many kinds of social sins. Let me name some of these social sins, such as no health care for all the people, no regulatory safeguards against the crooks and robbers in our financial institutions, the orchestrated effort to eliminate the middle class, the destruction of our environment, the lust for wars and the killing of God’s children, the doing away with pension plans and benefit obligations, and the doing away with the minimum wages. These are only a few social sins committed against God’s children of many social sins in the United States of Mortal Sin. Unless we consider Matthew 25 very important in our lives, we will never overcome our massive social sin network that Americans commit on a daily basis. Our country is on a road that will lead to its self-destruction and our people will wallow in the abyss of a natural hell before our manifest destiny into a supernatural hell.
If you listened to Thom’s first segment on January 17, 2011, you will know why the United States of Mortal Sin is a damned nation. There is no doubt in my mind that our nation is preparing Americans to wallow in the abyss of hell for eternity. Living in this hell-hole and rat-hole nation is preparing us well for the supernatural hell.
Required reading for the "not my problem" crowd: "Collapse - How Societies Choose To Fail or Succeed" by Jared Diamond. A long, but well researched and analysed evaluation of the history of humans and their interactions with the earth and what we may learn from those stories.
Medicare for all! Simple!
Contrast the truly irrational extremes to which we go to protect people from a whiff of tobacco smoke with the lengths to which we go to essentially liberate gun owners from rules and increase their capacity to efficiently kill. Think I'd rather run into a puff of tobacco smoke than some enraged character with a gun that holds 30 rounds of ammo, but I'm just speaking for myself here.
On the psychiatric evaluation issue, many Americans misunderstand what this is about. It isn't used to determine mental illness per se, and indeed, the US is one of the only countries on Earth that does routinely imprison people who are verifiably seriously mentally ill. The intent of the evaluation is to determine if the individual even had the capacity to understand that shooting someone is against the law. If he understands that it's against the law, yet maintains that (for example) a "higher power" ordered him to shoot, he can stil be imprisoned. It must be determined that the shooter honestly had no ability to understand that the shooting was wrong, and this is almost impossibe to establish in court. Furthermore, no one has ever evaded legal responsibility by the "insanity defense." Under these laws, severely psychotic people will simply be sent to a mental hospital UNTIL it is determined that their psychosis has been brought under control, at which time they are then returned to the courts/prison. They are kept in seperate quarters specifically for the criminally insane which, by necessity, is very prison-like. If the individual is clearly permanently insane, he is likely to remain institutionalized for the rest of his life.
If you seek to do a dirty deed and you don't wish to get your hand dirty you go looking for a weak mind to stand for the task.
what part of "profits mean they are stealing from you" don 't they understand? Also unrestricted quarterly increase in profit is unstainable.
Loughner and James Earl Ray are end products alike, they are manufactured. When Jack in the Box serves E.Coli for breakfast they are held liable.
"psychiatric evalution" ? By what criteria ? Let me see, I have two bullet holes in my body and I don't want another one and anyone standing in the way of my wish needs assistance in showing me the way to the loony ben. Over stated perhaps but still and all , really , who's nuts ?
War is An Enemy of the Poor
"A true revolution of values will lay hand on the world order and say of war, 'This way of settling differences is not just.'... A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death." - MLK
http://www.commondreams.org/further/2011/01/16
I expect most of the people in this discussion have heard clips on the show.
Start with this article...
Stochastic Terrorism: Triggering the shooters.
America's Enduring Strength is Palin's response to the shooting.
Flashback: Giffords Warned Of 'Consequences' To Palin's Target Imagery (VIDEO)
Some violent speech...
Levin to female caller: "I don't know why your husband doesn't put a gun to his temple. Get the hell out of here"
Radio host Glenn Beck "thinking about killing Michael Moore"
Wally Herger Praises a "Proud Right-Wing Terrorist
Michele Bachmann: I Want People "Armed And Dangerous" Over Obama Tax Plan
Palin: Don't Retreat! Reload
Mark Levin sings kumbaya
Beck: "God will wash this nation with blood if he has to, but he doesn't have to"
Savage said he sees women who wear burqas as "hateful Nazi[s]" who want to "kill your children"
There is plenty more at the following pages, for example...
http://mediamatters.org/search/tag/glenn_beck
http://mediamatters.org/search/tag/michael_savage
Health care providers deserve to be well paid. Insurance companies do NOT provide health care. To the contrary, they endeavor to deny health care to their customers whenever possible...and in a purely business sense, deprive the health care provider from serving the patient, thereby preventing the free enterprise they claim to promote and foster.
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/republican_party/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2011/01/17/persecuted_republicans
The above article will explain it all.
What is sin?
When I examine my conscience, I look at various notes to help me with my examination. There is one section of my examination that I do not particularly want to read or review. It talks about what is sin. There are various forms of sin and I conclude that we are all sinners.
Sin is not always breaking laws, but an absence of love. In America we despise the poor, the disenfranchised, and the underserved. We are a hateful nation. Sin is not necessarily in our actions, but in our attitude. People may have a holier-than-thou attitude that Jesus condemns.
Sin is not always something evil. Failure to do good is also sin. For example, “I was hungry and you did not feed me.”
Sin is refusing to grow, to change, and to not use your talents or skills. What is important is not how much we have received, but how we use what we have received.
Sin is unawareness. We are unaware of our true self, our true nature. We identify ourselves with the things we are not: our body, wealth, success, recognition. These become the gods that control our lives.
Love wants the best for another person or persons. When we love another person or persons, we want the very best for that person or persons.
Hatred, murders, torture, and wars reveal America’s true nature, an absence of love. Why do Americans embrace and glorify hatred, murders, torture, and wars?
The Sins of Our Father
We have frequently heard that Bush wants us to consider him as our father. I hope that your memories are not so short to forget what he has said to us. Americans are suffering from the sins of our father. Yes, Bush’s sinful decisions and ways are affecting our lives. His hatred, murders, war crimes, his lust for torture, his corruption, greed, decadence, and lies are affecting every American and we see the disastrous consequences of his actions, behaviors, policies, and practices.
Bush who claims to be our father has been a disaster for our country and her people. Yet, most Americans honor, praise, thank him for all the good he has given us, and we worship him in our evangelical churches and in our children’s camps. He in some ways is America’s adopted god. I am sharing with you my perceptual opinion of Bush.
Retribution for Sins
Let me share with you that I have some anger issues. These anger issues are keeping me from feeling that I am on the path to eternal salvation. A key anger issue I have is that goose-stepping Americans are unwilling to practice the Golden Rule. People, our problems can be resolved by doing away with hatred, corruption, and lies that are so rampant in our hell-hole we call the United States of Mortal Sin.
There is retribution for our sins. If we die, refusing to accept and return God’s love, we are damned to spend eternity in hell. Make no mistake hell is real! It may not be a place but it is real. It may be more of a state of mind. A feeling of emptiness and hopelessness is forever constant in our mind that we have chosen to turn our back on God and His love for us.
I would like to see health insurance reform AND accountability; health care reform and reasoned and reasonable tort reform, (I hate to use that term because of the cannotation, such as it is). I am a victim of all the aforementioned. For 12 years now I awake in the morning go upstairs, read, listen to the radio, watch videos we get from the library, or, (for the past week), go on the web. At night I go back downstairs and go to bed. 12 years now! This was due to a misdiagnosed brain stem anerysm and a system bent on fiegning responsibility and accountability. What can a diminished citizen do against a group of systems, working thick as thieves, to redress grievences?
After reading these blogs.... I was wondering if anyone can explain to me why statements are made in such general language with no existence of any "specific" foundation of information that would support such statements. Specifically, what "hate" rhetoric did Sarah Palin use to complain about such rhetoric??? Can anyone give me one example of a specific statement made by Glenn Beck that would be considered "hate" rhetoric??? It seems to create an element of "comfort" for you people to speak in such a vague fashion, therefore, reducing any rebutle that would prove an outright "lie" on your behalf. By the way, I have no affiliation with the right or the Republican party... I am simply an "American" with core values that line up with that of our founding fathers and the constitution. I know that this kind of rhetric, words like "American" and the "Constitution" seem to be percieved as "viole" by some... I just can't understand why. By the way, did you know that MLK's daughter has given her support to Mr Beck?
So, if stricter gun control laws were implemented... criminals would'nt be able to get guns. I believe Congresswoman Gifford supported the right to own guns... correct me if I'm wrong. Also, I find it strange that it was a "TeaParty" leader who was threatened... and we're just not talking too much about that...hhmmm..ok?
We need both health care reform and freedom from the insurance parasites!
By Tea Party, I am referring to the minions who act on the vitriol spewed by the moneyed interests that aim to keep them repressed.
"I began thinking about the fact that stand in the middle of two opposing forces in the Negro community. One is a force of complacency, made up in part of Negroes who, as a result of long years of oppression, are so drained of self-respect and a sense of "somebodiness" that they have adjusted to segregation; and in part of a few middle class Negroes who, because of a degree of academic and economic security and because in some ways they profit by segregation, have become insensitive to the problems of the masses. The other force is one of bitterness and hatred, and it comes perilously close to advocating violence. It is expressed in the various black nationalist groups that are springing up across the nation..." - MLK, Letter from Birmingham Jail.
Negro can very easily be replaced with Poor and black nationalist groups can be replaced with Tea Party. The parallels to today are evident.
I am convinced that most people under the age of 40 do not grasp the full message of MLK. I recall the history books of my age (42) giving cursory mention of MLK, concentrating exclusively on his marches and his speech from the Lincoln Memorial. The basic tenor of the lesson was he fought exclusively for civil rights for blacks. There was no mention of his jailhouse writings or his calls to end poverty and war. It was years after I graduated from high school did I learn he was awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace. Sad.
Sin
Here is my perceptual opinion on sin. Our pastor had a very good homily on sin for January 15, 2011. He gave us a brief history on sin since the 1960s. In the 1960s there was less emphasis on personal sin. There are still personal sins but the emphasis was less on this sin. In the 1970s there was more emphasis on social sin. The emphasis of this sin was more on how we relate to and treat people. Our country displays a deep and widespread relationship with social sins. I see many of our politicians deeply involved in committing many kinds of social sins. Let me name some of these social sins, such as no health care for all the people, no regulatory safeguards against the crooks and robbers in our financial institutions, the orchestrated effort to eliminate the middle class, the destruction of our environment, the lust for wars and the killing of God’s children, the doing away with pension plans and benefit obligations, and the doing away with the minimum wages. These are only a few social sins committed against God’s children of many social sins in the United States of Mortal Sin. Unless we consider Matthew 25 very important in our lives, we will never overcome our massive social sin network that Americans commit on a daily basis. Our country is on a road that will lead to its self-destruction and our people will wallow in the abyss of a natural hell before our manifest destiny into a supernatural hell.
If you listened to Thom’s first segment on January 17, 2011, you will know why the United States of Mortal Sin is a damned nation. There is no doubt in my mind that our nation is preparing Americans to wallow in the abyss of hell for eternity. Living in this hell-hole and rat-hole nation is preparing us well for the supernatural hell.
Required reading for the "not my problem" crowd: "Collapse - How Societies Choose To Fail or Succeed" by Jared Diamond. A long, but well researched and analysed evaluation of the history of humans and their interactions with the earth and what we may learn from those stories.
I want national health care for all, single payer!
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