Aliceinwonderland ~ Thanks Alice! It may not do anything; but at least, it sure will make you feel better. I know I'm happy I tried. What do you know, I did get one positive result.

PS Kerry is through with me too. No wonder why the Repubs wanted him appointed so bad. What a sell out!

We may be headed for mass extinction, but I'm not going down without a fight. On Sunday, 350.org is holding a civil disobedience training session in Madison, training for the eventuality that Obama approves the KXL pipeline.

when is a question -not ..... a question? it's when you make a statement, put a '?' at the end, then offer a choice of: NO or no. then, what's really FUN, is to make 'that' question about MANKIND, and my impact. but i'am trying to SURVIVE here. as a person, a husband, a father, an employer/employee, an American citizen. i extend my 'feelings' to friends & neighbors who are un-fortunate also to other Americans, who i see on TV news -struggle. i'am angered & i cry to see what is happening to My America. and You want me to put GLobal climate topics above EVERY thing else. our climate is important. it's on my List. but put 'things of immediate importance' in proper prospective. i get the feeling---> we're in the ReaL World -and- you are 'making-up Topics of discussion as a College Professor.oh -i hear the BeLL ringing. class over. i gotta go to work. p.s. -you're Wasting my time.

Just this evening on Democracy Now I watched a short clip of Kerry singing praises to the TPP, claiming it will "create jobs" and "growth" ad nauseam. We were eating dinner when this came up. I could've puked, it was so revolting. I'd already had doubts about Kerry but this has alienated me from him forever. That guy seemed to have promise forty years ago, as a young Vietnam vet just back from the war, questioning the wisdom of prolonging that murderous charade another day. Now he's just a rich old man, out of touch with reality like most members of that club.

I've remained a Democrat for strategic reasons only. But it's getting harder and harder for me to stomach a party that only seems to get more corporatized and corrupted with time. Just a few elections ago, I might have voted for Kerry when he ran for prez; but now, I wouldn't pick him for dog catcher.

You're right, Marc; it's time to write my representative and senators. I don't know how much good it would do, but it would make me feel better to have tried at least...

Better to quite drinking wine. - buy instagram follower

Quote N Z Sarah:Please, Google Scientific America geoengineering. Proposals are to use these patented programs to control climate change. Claims are that little experimentation has been done. 20% less sunshine already is no small experiment!

N Z Sarah ~ Thank you so much for that reference. I've heard of "chemtrails" but never heard a logical explanation before. That does explain the whole thing. Living in a big city I don't really notice the difference. However, I've heard a lot of theories and explanations for "chemtrails" but was skeptical they were true till now. What a ridiculous idea. It's the type of strategy I would expect from Wile E Coyote against the Road Runner. These fossil fuel jockeys will try anything to keep pushing their agenda. I wonder if they have calculated how much it would cost to sustain such a world wide effect; and, exactly who they expect will pay for it?

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=geoengineering-could-turn-skies-white

This whole approach falls in line with other solutions the petroleum industry comes up with--especially in the petro pharmaceutical branch. It is so like the TV commercial that announces a cure for acne. Side effects include sudden heart failure, suicidal thoughts, possibility of stroke, pancreatic cancer, kidney failure, blindness, and sudden death syndrome. If you start to lose consciousness or experience any of these symptoms you should call your Doctor and discontinue treatment immediately.

You can bet the side effects for geoengineering will be far worse than the problem if the petroleum industry is behind it.

Quote j.jonik:Can someone compare how much Carbon Dioxide was released from ancient extinction-causing Volcanos etc...to how much Carbon Dioxide is, and has been, released by fossil fuel industries?

That is....Modern Fossil Fuel emissions are equivalent to how many volcanos?

j.jonik ~ A very good question. This is the answer I found:

Published reviews of the scientific literature byMoerner and Etiope (2002) and Kerrick (2001)

Quote Article: Do Volcanos Emit More CO2 Than Humans?:Published reviews of the scientific literature byMoerner and Etiope (2002) and Kerrick (2001) report a minimum-maximum range of emission of 65 to 319 million tonnes of CO2 per year. Counter claims that volcanoes, especially submarine volcanoes, produce vastly greater amounts of CO2 than these estimates are not supported by any papers published by the scientists who study the subject.

The burning of fossil fuels and changes in land use results in the emission into theatmosphere of approximately 30 billion tonnes of carbon dioxide per year worldwide, according to the EIA.

The conclusion brought by the study said.

Quote Article: Do Volcanos Emit More CO2 Than Humans?: The fossil fuels emissions numbers are about 100 times bigger than even the maximum estimated volcanic CO2 fluxes. Our understanding of volcanic discharges would have to be shown to be very mistaken before volcanic CO2 discharges could be considered anything but a bit player in contributing to the recent changes observed in the concentration of CO2 in the Earth's atmosphere.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/volcanoes-and-global-warming.htm

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2011/08/volcanic-vs-anthropogenic-co2/

This fact is also collaborated by the USGS (U. S. Geological Survey) site as well.

USGS ~ Government Site

Quote Article: Volcanic Gas and Climate Change Overview:Do the Earth’s volcanoes emit more CO2 than human activities? Research findings indicate that the answer to this frequently asked question is a clear and unequivocal, “No.” Human activities, responsible for a projected 35 billion metric tons (gigatons) of CO2 emissions in 2010 (Friedlingstein et al., 2010), release an amount of CO2 that dwarfs the annual CO2 emissions of all the world’s degassing subaerial and submarine volcanoes (Gerlach, 2011).

http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/hazards/gas/climate.php

Conclusion ~ Every year humans release on average 100 times the maximum amount of volcanic produced CO2 into the atmosphere. Between 2001 and 2010 the amount of CO2 released has climbed from 30 billion metric tons (gigatons) to 35 billion metric tons (gigatons) and is still climbing. We have a serious problem.

Thom, you and crew have done a real service for humanity. Thank you! I posted a link to my FB immediately along with plea to friends to watch and download. I began studying up on this since first I heard of it. When mainstream media mentions climate it is usually about sea level rise in a hundred years or so. The methane problem and ocean acidification are more worrying. Last night, seemingly by coincidence, there were two related docus on different channels: Earth, Making of a Planet and Attenborough's First Life (both excellent). I thought again while watching what a gift we have here - one we're trashing. 13.8 billion years of cosmic evolution in the making and we're ready to throw it all away for what - forty years of techno-consumer partying? BMWs? Sports? War? Plasma TVs? Stainless steel fridges? The propaganda of powerful fossil fuel interests, their shills in Congress and media must be marginalized. It's a tragedy that our political systems worldwide have produced the current crop of mostly corrupt, insane and just plain stupid leaders - at a time when we need some real thinkers with broad world views.

Kend ~ I love that George Carlin skit. So true. However, I think you missed the main point. "The Earth isn't going anywhere, we are!" You would think that as an "intelligent" species we should be able to master how to interact and adapt to our environment. After all, don't we aspire someday to travel to other planets that may not be so hospitable? Therefore, if we ever hope to do that successfully, or to successfully maintain our existence on this planet, we need to understand how the planet works and how to interact with it. Is that so much to ask. Afterall, every other mutation--including one cell organisms--that have survived for any length of time on Earth have learned to adapt. Learning to adapt to their environment is any species number one priority. A one-celled organism doesn't have any intellect at all to rely on yet adapts quite well. Of all life that has ever existed on this planet--that we know of--we are the most intelligent of all. If an amoeba can manage to survive for any length of time, why can't we manage to survive indefinitely?

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2008/dec/31/cement-carbon-emissions

2008 article but some more recent ones online

Google: concrete carbon dioxide CO2

This is good (maybe too late) but there's a new type of concrete that instead of generating CO2, uses it. So, in the future, housing, infrastructure & etc. could benefit from this type of CO2 Sequestration. Employment too...

Akunard, I was a labor organizer for nine years organizing por laborers. Most of the members opf our organization were undocumented immigrants but we were a racially and ethnically diverse group.

Our last campaign before our ultimate disaolution (which was due to infighting and which prevented us from completing the campaign) was an antidiscrimination campaign fighting discrimination in hiring which favors the undocumented and shuts out legal immigrants and U.S. born - mainly African American - workers.

There were several reasons for our undertaking the issue of discrimination. First it was just wrong; second, it created a class of workers (the undocumented) that could be exploited at will; then (third) this was used as leverage against U.S. born workers who were not otherwise afraid to assert their rights; and lastly, the practice of discrimination in hiring made for a tremendous amount of animosity between the two groups of workers - undocumented and U.S. born - and there could thus be no unity or solidarity between the two. A necessary part of our campaign was also support for immigration reform (if not flat out amnesty).

Akunard, few things made us bristle more than the phrase, "The immigrants are only doing jobs the U.S. born workers don't want to do.". As a result of years of using the undocumented for leverage against the U.S. born workers and their organizing and collective bargaining endeavors many jobs that were good middle class jobs are now poverty wage jobs that "Americans don't want to do".

Back when we were getting the campaign together the issue of illegal immigration and immigration reform was hot and a letter to the NY Times was published which was written by a son of "Oakies", migrant farm workers from Oklahoma's dust bowl era. He grew up in the farmworker's life. That farm work was also traditionally often done by traveling kids on vacation from college - as he one summer, with a group of friends, wanted to do. When he and his friends tried they were told by growers that there was no opening for them and "on every ladder stood an immigrant". This young man held no ill will toward the immigrants and supported their cause describing the situation as a pitting of two desperate groups against one another. He ended, however, by saying, "but please don't say they [immigrants] are only doing jobs Americans don't want to do.".

I wonder if you were aware that Spanish is an official language of the United States. That's because of Puerto Rico and other island holdings - much like French in Canada because of Quebec. I got that on pretty good auithority, i.e., a Puerto Rican revolutionary from Brooklyn, N.Y. who was a grad student at the University of Chicago.

I'm not saying I necessarily disagree with you on the teaching of English but it might be more nuanced than that

climate action:

the climate acting in response to both our actions responsible, and to our irresponsible inaction

climate change:

the climate adapting to people not changing

the natural consequence of environmentalists permitting and regulating environmental destruction

an ongoing corporate policy created global catastrophe, denied by the corporate party's Republicans and ignored by the corporate party's Democrats

an opportunity for liberal cap & traders to profit greatly from bundling pollution swap credits, while short-selling futures for human survival

climate collapse:

the natural consequence of the many decades of degenerate (Greatest, My, and now Millennial) generations regularly providing supermajority affirmative political support for continuing the corporate (R) & (D) party's sociopathic policies

climate justice:

Nature slowly punishing humans, ever harder, for having so greatly ravaged and disregarded Her
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