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  • A nightmarish scenario...   12 years 20 weeks ago
    Quote Global: "But wait a minute, what happens when we have no more rich people?"

    Then maybe we can finally get some real democracy instead of the bought sham of democracy they want us to believe in and support.

    Rich people are a cancer to democracy.

    And besides it was the rich people who became rich by stealing from everyone else in the first place.

  • A nightmarish scenario...   12 years 20 weeks ago

    So we redistribute the wealth of the top 1%? Why not the top 3%? Whats the criteria? I want to know because as you need more money, I want to know how far down you go. Or will you just keep taking the top 1%?

    If I personally own a 100 million dollar company and my total worth is 101 million dollars....do I have to sell the company to pay the tax? What if I sell the company to the Chinese? Start thinking about implemenation before you get to grab happy with other people's money.

  • A nightmarish scenario...   12 years 20 weeks ago

    Hey, I've got a great idea! Kill off all the old people! ☠ But, gas chambers would have been quicker. ;-{

    It looks like no one will touch Pentagon spending and blame everything on the social programs like Social Security and Medicare. Why?

    Quote MaxKeiser show #390: Why is the Pentagon "off the table"? "According to the chart they put up (adjusted for real inflation adjusted dollars), we are now spending more than the Cold War, Vietnam, and the recent build up."-Stacey Herbert
    "The Arlington National Cemetary..that's America's answer to inflation. It's the deflationary forces of genocide..."-Max Keiser

    Yes, Max Keiser clowns around a lot but there is a serious message in this that is closer to truth. They made a number of very interesting points in this episode. Another point is that real wars have always been preceded by economic ones. And a very real economic war has been going on for some time now. Too bad the rich couldn't have been less selfish and hateful over the years but then, I guess, it is just not within their nature is it? Soylent Green, anyone? Seig Heil!

    And how many people know that the US is now sending in military forces into 35 spots in Africa? China is all over Africa taking their oil. Like the US in the Middle East we are rearranging our chess board to prevent China from accessing oil. They also mentioned the tension between China and Japan.

    Quote Andrew Sullivan as quoted on this show: "History is replete with examples of great powers who undid themselves by spending on war and empire - in the end often with debt - while neglecting the core concerns of the domestic economy. Hegemonic America is following imperial Spain and imperial Britain into the same morass. But it is a choice, not a fate."
    Quote asahi.com as quoted on this show: "Chinese think tank: conflict inevitable between Japan, China over Senkakus"

    http://ajw.asahi.com/article/views/editorial/AJ201212150020

    http://ajw.asahi.com/article/special/isles_dispute/AJ201210170041

    http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2013/01/203100.html

  • A nightmarish scenario...   12 years 20 weeks ago

    Alex jones rolled Pierce Morgan on the second amendment rights, hillarious in your face smack down.

  • A nightmarish scenario...   12 years 20 weeks ago

    Somehow we made it through the 1995 debt ceiling crisis not only in one piece but had some of the most conservative and balanced spending while I have been alive.

    The problem is not the revenue, its the spending.....the problem is not the debt ceiling, its lack of control by congress with respect to their spending. I have a credit card and I can keep asking for a higher debt limit but at some point, the company will say no...."Spend within your budget". I realize this is hard given the inability of the Senate to produce a budget.

    We don't have a debt ceiling problem, we have a spending problem.

  • A nightmarish scenario...   12 years 20 weeks ago

    Great idea, lets just steal it from the rich -- problem solved. Mob rule, I'll go get some torches and pitch forks. But wait a minute, what happens when we have no more rich people?

  • Thursday was the first day of the 113th Congress   12 years 20 weeks ago

    My response to your question is contained in #27 above.

    Human nature has not changed, that's why most of Adam Smith's ideas are just as relevant today.

  • A nightmarish scenario...   12 years 20 weeks ago

    Why raise the debt limit? Let's eliminate our deficit and debt 'problems' instead. Consider the following:

    Increasing the top ordinary income tax rate by only 3.5% to 39.5% on marginal income over 250K ( Obama's original proposal ) would generate about $70 billion a year; but letting it rise from there to 70% over 400K ( the pre-Reagan top marginal rate ) would generate about $700 billion a year.


 And applying this 70% marginal rate to any combination of all forms of income over 400K ( including stock grants, options, dividends and capital gains ) would generate hundreds of billions a year more.
 The result would be a budget surplus.

    And since the richest 1% have accumulated a total net worth of about 20 trillion dollars ( most of it just wealth 'redistributed' upward since 1980 because Reagan's flatter, 'fairer' tax rates did not increase the inflation adjusted rate of GDP growth ), an effective 
( loophole free ) top estate tax rate of 90% on marginal wealth over 50 million dollars ( the pre-Reagan rate was 77% over 10 million ) would generate enough revenue within a generation to eliminate our national debt.

    And the families of the richest 1%, with 4 trillion left, would still be the richest 1%.

  • Thursday was the first day of the 113th Congress   12 years 20 weeks ago

    So JOHNGUTTA, is your answer to my question saying that we need to abolish Corporate Personhood, and get corporate money out of politics???If so I think there is a growing support for this.

    In response to the last statement by Adam Smith..."Every man, so long as he does not violate the laws of justice, is left perfectly free to purchase his own intrest in his own way." Obviously during the time Smith wrote this there wasn't a corrupt "Two Teared Justice System". Today ALL major corporations (and there Captians) violate all kinds of laws, yet are never (or rarely) brought to justice and held accountable.

  • Should Obama side step Congress to raise the debt ceiling?   12 years 20 weeks ago

    We need to raise revenue on rich corporations and cut bloated military budget. The majority of americans believe this but the House of Representatives believes in welfare for the rich so they can destroy jobs with investments overseas. No wonder the working class is putting their boots on and knocking on doors. Maybe that noise I hear is democracy moving forward.

  • Should Obama side step Congress to raise the debt ceiling?   12 years 20 weeks ago

    What can be done, and what will be done..so far..appear to be 2 different things. Seems like Obama has already forgotten he has a mandate from the people who elected him, and once again appears to have sold out. Lets hope a more progressive senate will step up to the plate and fight for the people who elected them, because I don't see that the president is doing that.

    Historically we seem to keep repeating the same mistakes and of course getting the same results. We allow big money to run things, and screw everyone, just as in the previous depressions. There's an old saying in psychology, if you keep doing the same thing over and over and getting the same results, maybe it's time to do something different.

  • Thursday was the first day of the 113th Congress   12 years 20 weeks ago

    I don't see any path to a fair America without entirely public financing of lawmakers' campaigns and retirements, that's why I push for it so hard.

    Regarding your last sentence: The economic system that we now have is NOT Capitalism. Consider the following arguments made by Adam Smith, the founding father of Capitalism, in his book "Wealth of Nations"; -

    For a labor based economy:

    " Labor was the first price, the original purchase-money that was paid for all things. It was not by gold or by silver, but by labor, that all the wealth of the world was originally purchased."

    Against outsourcing:

    " By preferring the support of domestic to that of foreign industry, he [ a businessman ] intends only his own security; and by directing that [ domestic ] industry in such a manner as its produce may be of greatest value, he intends only his own gain, and he is in this led by an invisible hand to promote an end [ the good of his country ] which was no part of his intention. "

    " The ultimate object [ of Capitalism ] is to enrich the country by an advantageous balance of trade. It discourages the export of the materials of manufacture 
[ natural resources ], and of the instruments of trade [ machinery and factories ], in order to give our own workmen an advantage. It encourages the importation of the materials of manufacture, in order that our own people may work them up more cheaply, and thereby prevent a greater and more valuable importation of the manufactured commodities." ( the Reaganites have us doing the exact opposite )

    For progressive taxation:

    " Our merchants and master manufacturers complain much of the bad effects of high wages in raising the price, and thereby lessening the sale of their goods both at home and abroad. They are silent with regard to the pernicious effects of their own gains. In reality high profits tend much more to raise the price of work than high wages."

    "The rate of profit of merchants and manufacturers is naturally low in rich, and high in poor countries, and it is always highest in the countries which are going fastest to ruin."

    Against corporate control of government:


    " Whenever the legislature attempts to regulate the differences between masters and their workmen, its counselors are always the masters."

    “The proposal of any new law or regulation of commerce which comes from this order [ merchants and master manufacturers ] ought never to be adopted till carefully examined with the most suspicious attention. It comes from an order of men who have an interest to deceive and oppress the public, and who accordingly have, upon many occasions, both deceived and oppressed it."

    
Against bought laws:

    “ which the clamour of our merchants and manufacturers have extorted from the legislature, for the support of their own absurd and oppressive monopolies: Like the laws of Draco, these laws may be said to be all written in blood."

    For a minimum wage that will support a family:

    “A man must always live by his work, and his wages must be at least sufficient to maintain him. They must even upon most occasions be somewhat more; otherwise it would be impossible for him to bring up a family.”

    For economic justice:

    " Every man, so long as he does not violate the laws of justice, is left perfectly free to pursue his own interest in his own way."

  • We Shouldn't Negotiate with Economic Terrorists   12 years 20 weeks ago

    Funny how no one ever mentions the fact that the U.S. is by far the richest country on the planet. We have a GDP of $15,290,000,000,000. The obsession with the dept-limit and all of the austerity economics crap is a distraction fomented by the Billionaire Party so we don't notice the continuation of a massive concentration of wealth by a handful of lost and out of control souls. The real fight is about unregulated capitalism and the economic hardship it's causing the vast majority of us. Without a strong national labor union movement we're all pretty much screwed. Germany has it right in this regard, workers there get the respect and support they deserve.

    The Teabaggers, I'm guessing Salmon is one, and their shrink govt. and cut entitlements agenda is all part of this manipulation and distraction away from the real issue of economic inequality and continued wealth concentration. Social Security is proof that non profit social progams are immensely popular and it's the non profit part that explodes the heads of the piggish few out to loot this last frontier of citizen wealth by privatizing.

    George II and his administration used SS funds to hide loss of revenue from his tax cuts to billionaires. These stolen funds got redesignated as revenue to hide the theft. This is our hard earned money, the billionaires win if guys like Ryan and the Tea Party get their proposed program cuts, then the theft becomes nothing more than a transfer of our hard earned money into the pockets of the richest among us.

    Regarding the debt-limit fight, President Obama needs to stick to his statement....." If congress in any way suggests they are going to tie negotiations to the debt ceiling and take us to the brink of default once again as part of budget neogotiation...I will not play that game because we've got to break that habit before it starts."

  • Ignoring the lessons in Europe...   12 years 20 weeks ago

    Don't trouble too much over the old man I saw Alice. Perhaps telling his story might help motivate people to action. At least his hardship would have some meaning. He was a lesson to everyone, as well as a National travesty.

    Also, he was probably in the street because he had kids. A parent's dignity is seriously threatened when they burden their children. It's the last thing they want to do; especially, as the last thing they actually do.

    I know if I didn't call my father routinely to check up on him I still wouldn't know he was sick or in the hospital. When he didn't answer the phone for two days or return my call I went to his house and discovered it empty and the back door broken down. At first, I thought he was kidnapped. The neighbors told me an ambulance took him away after he fell down. He told them I was out of the country. I later learned that he told the ambulance drivers, doctors, and care givers at the convalescence hospital that he didn't have any children.

    How could I have scolded him? He was about to turn 90 himself. I knew he just didn't want to burden me. It's natural not to want to burden your loved ones. That's exactly why we pay into things like Social Security and Medicare. We must all demand that these entities are funded properly and with priority and never cut. In fact, the funding needs to be drastically increased!

    People want to leave their loved ones with property and money that they can use to remember them fondly--not unpaid bills. You're actually quite fortunate. Being childless, like myself, you and I can run up as many bills as we want and not worry about burdening any children. People with children know they can't.

    Also, hopefully, by that time you or I ever finds themselves in that predicament, society will grow up and realize it's responsibility to the preservation of the human dignity of everyone who's ever spent their lifetimes serving society; and neither we, nor anyone we know, will ever again have to spend their final days worrying about how their final liabilities due to the universal life stage called death are going to burden their loved one's future.

    If wealthy people really didn't agree with that then why do they complain so much about the Death Tax?

    Tell everyone you know to call President Obama and their Congressmen and demand: "NO CUTS WHATSOEVER TO SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE!"

  • We Shouldn't Negotiate with Economic Terrorists   12 years 20 weeks ago

    And I'm sure that my math is also wrong according to Mitt Romney and Rush Limbaugh. Try checking it for yourself against the raw data in the Statistical Abstract of the United States.

    Kids like the Koch brothers?

  • Should Obama side step Congress to raise the debt ceiling?   12 years 20 weeks ago

    Yes, the President is responsible for enforcing the law. Certainly the Congress cannot choose to refuse to pay its legal debts that it created itself. Imagine what would happen if the Congress passed a law requiring the President to spend then took away the money required to pay the bill. This is an easy one for me, do not bother about the Congress, use the power of the Presidency to pay all the legal bills that are incurred by the actions of the United States Congress.

  • So-Called Deal on the So-Called "Fiscal Cliff"   12 years 20 weeks ago

    Hi Alice, Have you tried using another browser than Safari, like Explorer or Firefox? I used Google Chrome and didn't have any problems. I'd suggest trying another browser; if you haven't already. Good Luck!

  • Thursday was the first day of the 113th Congress   12 years 20 weeks ago

    So JOHNGUTTA, do you think that we will soon see a return to a balanced playing field.

    I remember hearing Cornelle West state during an interview that if we are to ever have a return to a more fair and balanced economy between the middle class and upper wealthy class we will have to start having average everyday people elected into office...specificly; more teachers, scientist, working class people, and less lawyers and corporate buisnessmen. As well we may need to recognize that unregulated capitalism is the fuel that flames class warfare.

  • We Shouldn't Negotiate with Economic Terrorists   12 years 20 weeks ago

    According to Tony Robbins, "Americas national debt reconstructed" your math is wrong.

    I think if you remove the gift tax the kids and grandchildren would spend though.

  • We Shouldn't Negotiate with Economic Terrorists   12 years 20 weeks ago

    Kend - The solution to our national debt "problem" one more time:

    Because the richest 1% have accumulated a total net worth of about 20 trillion dollars since 1980 ( most of it already existing wealth 'redistributed' upward from the working majority by Reagan's flatter, 'fairer' tax rates because his economic policies did not increase the inflation adjusted GDP growth rate ), an effective 
( loophole free ) top estate tax rate of 90% on marginal wealth over 50 million dollars would generate enough revenue within a generation to eliminate our national debt.

    And the families of the richest 1%, with about 4 trillion left, would still be the richest 1%.

  • Thursday was the first day of the 113th Congress   12 years 20 weeks ago

    And about 60% of the voting public agrees with both of us; - not only on a living minimum wage, but also ending outsourcing by restoring tariffs on slave wage nations and taxing the ultra-rich to pay down the national debt. The only major impediment to getting all three is a Congress full of bought lawmakers.

  • Should Obama side step Congress to raise the debt ceiling?   12 years 20 weeks ago

    YES! If Obama doesn't sidestep this deadbeat Congress, nothing will ever get done.

  • We Shouldn't Negotiate with Economic Terrorists   12 years 20 weeks ago

    In the first place, the U.S. Senate has a Democratic majority, and the incoming senate is probably slightly more progressive-minded than was the outgoing one. Second, Mr. Thom Hartmann is well-intentioned, but he is too quick to jump on the theme, as he did the other day after his regular Friday segment with Senator Bernie Sanders, of the Republicans wanting to privatize Social Security. As I just said, the Democrats hold the senate as well as the White House. And polls indicate that they blame the Republicans for the fiscal cliff delays, and that they wanted somewhat higher taxes on the wealthy as opposed to cuts in Social Security and Medicare.

    Having said that, the conversation with Senator Sanders omitted what solutions Senator Sanders would be willing to consider when it comes to cutting the deficit, although I think we already know that both Thom and Bernie are in favor of making some cuts in defense spending. Also, these sessions with the senator seem to skirt the question, what can be done that won't hurt seniors and the disabled to address the retirement of the baby boom generation with respect to the two programs. If more revenue is the solution, then does Thom support raising the payroll (FICA) tax taken out of everyone's paycheck, or does he and Senator Sanders only support the idea, often discussed on the show, of raising the earnings cap on the income that is subject to the FICA tax. On the Sunday morning talk shows, mosts of the guests go on about the unsustainable situation regarding entitlements. A few of the guests mention their preferred solutions. The idea of raising the retirement age is mentioned on these shows, but is never disputed as being both ineffective and harmful. Some mention means-testing benefits, particularly Medicare, for higher-income people. This may be a necessary change to help the medical payments continue. These conservative-oriented guests never talk about other items that have increased the deficit, but only talk about the future of retirement benefits, ignoring the current deficit. They don't talk about raising the cap on earnings for the payroll tax. There are a lot of demagogues in America, but I think the problem is the confusing of the deficit, created previously while Bush was president, with the increased number of people who will receive benefits in the future, benefits which they have contributed toward. These are issues that need to be addressed. Even if the House of Representatives was not so right-wing, the problems would still be there.

    If people are harmed by poor decisions, I don't think they will remain silent or inactive. But there needs to be more mention of what can and should be done to strengthen the government's finances and to beat down the Republican efforts at extremism, based on their prejudice, not on economic reality.

  • We Shouldn't Negotiate with Economic Terrorists   12 years 20 weeks ago

    "what the hell has happened to America" the bills are coming in and goverment is trying to find out how they are going to pay for them. 16.5 trillion, $52,152.00 per person doesn't that scare the hell out you guys.

  • We Shouldn't Negotiate with Economic Terrorists   12 years 20 weeks ago

    Let's be honest here. The "Democrat" Obama signed a tax bill written by a "Democrat" controlled Senate that made 75% of Bush's estate tax cut permanent - giving the ultra-rich at least a three trillion dollar tax cut over the next 10 years - and increased payroll taxes on the working poor by 50%. Do we really need any more proof that lawmakers from both parties have been bought by the ultra-rich?

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