It seems most climate change deniers belong to one political party. However the effects of climate change are obviously bipartisan. I wonder what goes through the minds of the oil barons as they glance upon their grandchildren, fast asleep in their cribs?

Rove is a very powerful wealthy man He is a fixture on Fox . .Rove is greedy, corrupt & has NO honor. However I did not see a Meltdown when I watched Rove on you tube.

Look man this ain't about dismantleing Oil Companies...It's about changing our way of thinking. Climate Change isn't fiction...Nor is it entirely man's fault; man ethos are just another part of the equation, however, that being said, if we are to hold ourselves to being of some intellagence then I'd rather err on the side of caution and encourage Big Oil to get more involved with clean energy such as wind, solar, wave, and further its research and production with bio-fuels. As well, we need to raise the bar on fuel efficiency for both cars and trucks. The United States has fallen from grace, and when it comes to our Clean Energy Policies...Compared to Germany, Japan, China, France, Parts of S. America just to mention a few, we are a good 20 years behind. Why??? Here's my take; After WWII our government along with the oil indusrty begain to profit big on oil ivestments in the middle east. For a good 30 years this was Utopea for everyone. Supply was good, demand was high, and Prices were competitive and affordable. Then the crap hit the fan in the 70's...we all know this story Nixion, Pentagon Papers, then later the gas crisis, (Not that any of these issues were in connection with one another...the 70's just sucked). Never fear though the 80's were just around the corner...Reganomics, the deregulation of Wall St., Zero Tollerance Drug Policy, and once again cheap oil!!!Why would anyone in their right mind want to invest in some nutty science project to advance our technologies towards harnising energy from the Sun and the Wind?
You see there never has been some grand scheme to destroy the Oil Industry, just an alternative to help lessen the adverse effects which come with increased population, and waste. One thing the Oil Barrons can count on...Plastic, a by-product of crude oil, ain't going anywhere. As much as humans talk about lessening our enviromental foot print, we are surounded in plastic; our cars, our homes, appliences, stereos, phones, packaging, etc, etc. If Cotton is the fabric of our lives; then Plastic is the prefered material...And it lasts, and lasts, and lasts...Forever. It's cheap too! As the late great George Carlin so profoundly put it...Some day the Earth will shake us off like fleas and all that will be left is the Earth plus plastic, and it will be a whole new world.

Considering just the Ocean, 2/3 of the world, without UV radiation or pollution factors, the greatest unpredictable impact of GW is change of ocean salinity. There is an unknown potential volume of freshwater from melted ice which threatens us, since we don't know how fast the hidden ice is melting.

The ocean's circulation is thermo-haline driven. It needs salt. There may be models, but there is no actual data on which to base how lower salinity will affect ocean currents worldwide. But we know global change will be the result- because it's a big ocean.

If a lot of ice melts in a short time, we will not have to wait to the end of the century to see and feel the changes. That is not enough time for complex organisms to adapt.

Ocean circulation change could cause cold temperatures where it once was hot. The biota would not be adapted.

Currents are essential to the movement of ocean bacteria and plankton as the base of the food chain. Changes of salinity will alter the type bacterial communities of the ocean which provide nutrients for plankton. Bacteria can adapt quickly but how will this affect the food chain? A fish needs more time to change its feed. Would salt water organisms in a few years be able to live as fresh water organisms?

I can only say no to this, having spent personal quality time in fresh water swamps and brackish water swamps. The two communities couldn't be more different.

Changing the salinity of the ocean changes the foundation of our entire natural world. If it happens quickly, earth may revert to Kingdom Protista and start over from there at a new salinity.

So none of us are completely safe after all, not even the Bushes.

I have to quibble with this post. On the one hand, you express concern through providing this information about people in far-away, relatively impoverished, largely costal Third World countries with respect to the future impact of global warming on their ability to continue living where they now reside. On the other hand, when it comes to talking about doing at least something to reduce carbon emissions in the United States, on today's show, you mentioned Tesla electric cars. I have not gone out of my way to research this company's products, and they certainly do not have an electric car dealership in my area. But from what I have heard, the price tag on their vehicles is very expensive. So the question is, why are environmentalist progressives willing to discuss the problems for poor people in Africa or some other tropical, costal region regarding global warming, but you ignore how unrealistic and impossible it would be for some member of the working poor in America to go out and buy a high-tech electric orsome other brand of electric car. According to a columnist for the Los Angeles Times, poor people often cannot even afford to buy a car, but when they can, they can only afford a used car. I when I was in college in Michigan went with some other guys to Lansing, your hometown, and went to used car lot and bought a used foreign import which turned out to be a lemon. What did I know about mechanical technicalities and how to check out a used car? According to the newspaper columnist, many of these working poor people end up with a high monthly payment for a high-mileage car, and often something goes wrong, and they cannot make the payments. In that instance, they lose all the money they paid up to that point, and the car. The last time I checked, I didn't notice any used electric cars at dealerships. The columnist points out that public transportation or car pooling or relying on relatives for a ride are not an option for many because they are unavailable in many cases, and that research studies have estimated the number of unemployed people who would likely be able to find some kind of a job if only one barrier were removed: that they could not afford a car to drive around applying for work. He also wrote that some time ago, an attempt was made by a member of Congress to create a federal car buying financial assistance program for low-income people, but that it went no where, and that some environmentalists complained that it would lead to more pollution. The poor would not be able to afford an alternative engergy vehicle and may become scapegoats in the future as they continue to drive cars with conventional internal combustion engines, unless there is some financially feasible alternative. Even if you had many electric cars, renewable energy only makes up a small percentage of electricity generation in the U.S. I am not sure what percentage of power plants use natural gas and what percentage rely on coal. My state is something like the third highest for having coal-powered electricity plants. The progressive approach, which criticizes conservatives for using fear-mongering to motivate their base, also relies on a certain degree of fear tactics. In my view, this is not the most effective approach. Technically and economically, alternative solutions are not readily available, and this is true not only in the U.S. but in many other countries, most notably, China, which has a thriving solar manufacturing industry by all accounts and whose government is aware of the problem.

Well, I agree with all Thom says in this post. But, ah, sigh, 2100? Isn't humanity going to be extinct before then?

Hasn't the planet been changing tempature for millions of years. I am old enough to remember we when we going to spray the artic with an insulation because the planet was cooling to fast. Then the Ozone had a huge hole in it so we all going to burn to death. The fact is we have spent Trillions on global warming and it hasn't changed a thing except the bank accounts of th enviromentalists. What is even more disturbing is when ever the theory is challanged the scenitists are called names and there life is threatened. All sceince should be challenged shouldn't it? I have seen the ads about polar bears drowning because there is no ice. Come on, the polar bear population is growing yearly ever since people stopped buying furs there are more seals to eat than ever. There is no more cod left cause there is too many seals though. If it is true I guess poeple will just have to move north to "frozen lake land" where globel warming is a good thing. I can't imagine never having to shovel snow again. Longer growing season in the great white north, golfing year round. Hummmmmmmmm

Right on que, watch and listen for all the left wing media to jump on Cap and Trade. The talking points are out and the propaganda machine is ready to roll. The agenda 21 strategy is to bring down the wealthy countries and spread the wealth and what better vehicle than environmentalism. california of course will be the first guinea pig on cap and trade as they hasten their demise to bankruptcy.

DOLPHINS IN GULF CONTINUE TO DIE IN RECORD NUMBERS TWO YEARS AFTER THE ACCIDENT!

This from the National Federation of Wildlife:

Dolphins across the northern Gulf of Mexico are still dying in high numbers--two and a half years after BP's Deepwater Horizon rig exploded and sent more than 200 million gallons of oil into the Gulf.

Just this week, BP agreed to pay a record criminal fine for the Gulf oil spill, but vowed to vigorously contest the charges it is facing under federal environmental law--money from which would go toward

restoring the Gulf.

Dolphins in one heavily oiled section of the Louisiana coast are suffering and even dying from a variety of symptoms--including anemia, low blood sugar, and lung disease--that suggest exposure to oil.

But media reports indicate that BP might be attempting to negotiate an agreement with the Department of Justice to pay less than half of what the company could face at trial for its violations of the Clean Water Act and the Oil Pollution Act.

BP's fines need to be large enough to restore the Gulf of Mexico for dolphins and other wildlife--and to send a clear message that America holds reckless polluters fully accountable.

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So the baseline DoD budget went from roughly 300 billion to 550 bilion or so. The yearly deficit is 1 trillion. And it is the increase in DoD budget that is the problem? What am I missing here?

"Maybe you should just thank the hard working people who bring you those luxuries..." (a legend in their own minds...aren't they?)
Yes, some are "hard working people" ...the workers...but they arn't the ones who are stealing all the big bucks..and making criminally devious decisions to risk peoples lives in order to maximize profits....it's the ones at the top...the top execs and major stock holders. They are the ones adding to the misery of those at the bottom. And I suppose a few people may actually watch those BP commercials without throwing up!

If those at the top of the BP imperium were truly held accountable...(the guillotine would be too good for them).. they should at least be stripped of all their wealth and property...ill gotten gains they stole from us...and thrown into prison for life.

Corporations are people, remember? When people commit murder..especially mass murder..and wreck the ecosystem and economy to such a horrendous extent...they should pay the price...and not continue to live opulently while shifting the "costs" of their "slap on the wrist" penalties on to the customers. Letting these people get off the hook so easily is just as much of a "moral hazard" as the US bailouts of the casino capitalists who have wrecked our economy resulting in the hardship and even deaths of thousands of people. This Empire is collapsing fast! A sinking ship. Hopefully, the people will be so ticked off that they will force the Democrats to actually bring some justice for them...but a "slap on the wrist" miniscule fine is not a good start.

Right on, Thom Hartman! Keep up the good work! Tell it like it is!

When I log in, I can't access the podcasts on the web. When I click on "upgrade your membership" the page doesn't exist. What's the deal?