The Great Chicago Fire was in 1871, but your point is well taken. The Republicans and Libertarians (who, as Thom says, are Republicans who want to smoke pot and get laid) want to return us to those "glorious" days of the early-to-mid 19th century when the fire departments were run by the insurance companies (many large cities had competing fire companies); if you did not have insurance with a company that owned one of the fire companies, you were SOL and JWF if your house caught fire. By the way, this is the second such incident in Tennessee in the last couple of years.

I've reached a point in Democracy in America where deTocqueville predicts that, within several years of his book being written, the majority of the population of the US would live outside the original 13 states that had created the Union. This in fact happened during the 1850s, the decade before the Civil War.

I had thought about this already and I think that having a majority of the population living in states that were created by the Union (rather than the other way around) may have contributed to the change after the Civil War that Thom has mentioned where people stopped saying "the United States are" and started saying "the United States is".

When sociopaths control a society you get sociopathic behaviour. Nothing surprising with that. All I can say is my family's annual trips to Nashville have now ended...I'll be damned if I'll help the State of Tennessee and their sadism.

Question;

Will President Obama be able to make some recess appointments over the Christmas breaks or will the house be in 'pro-forma' session to thwart that? Pity the Democrats didn't think of that vs Bush's abuse of things like that.

As a Canadian I'm not sure of your system. I assume they are called recess appointments because the members are acting like children and recess is the only time the adults have to get things done..

Oh yeah.. how many signing statements has the President used?

Good luck, count those votes..

Rick

Thank you for actually explaining in simple yet sarcastic language the true reason for a PROGRESSIVE TAX RATE. The fact is that the wealthy DO use the services of the Commons and the resources of Government and have a greater amount to lose in the event of a disaster, such as fire or theft, that these people MUST pay a higher percentage of their wealth and income in the form of taxes. Unfortunately local governments have a tendency to charge FEES as opposed to TAXES and therefore, charge those with a lower income and net worth a higher percentage of their income for those services and resources. ( See Professor Hartmann, I do pay attention in class... ie. listening to your show)

You should ask the firefighters to come on your show and explain how they felt about it Thom. Had to be some serious internal conflict going on with them I would imagine. Probably some good parallels could be drawn to the Milgram obedience experiments and the perils of obedience to evil masters.

This goes back to before we made fire services public because of this very reason. I was shocked to hear that people in TN have allowed this to happen without fighting back. They should be calling for this ugly law to be repealed.

We can pay for causing fires in countries we invade and occupy, but not put out fires at home? Something is terribly wrong when firefighters sit and watch homes burn.

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It should be mandatory to have insurance or pay a fine.But the firemen were wrong I would not call them men they remind me of the Nazis

Here we go again with the conservatives idea of "you can't pay, too bad, you're on your own". The last time I heard about a house burning down in Tennessee in similar circumstances, the family's neighbor called up the county clerk and tried to give them a credit card so that the firefighters that were watching the house burn would act but it was either too late or the clerk wouldn't take the payment. Anyway, I think 2 familly dogs perished in the house that burnt to the ground. The firefighters that were not allowed to act were sick about it. They are just instructed to stand there and make sure the fire doesn't spread to any of the paying citizens homes. I didn't think such a thing could happen in our America but I'm afraid we haven't seen nothin' yet.