Couldn't Rep. Ellison simply endorse one of the three proposed amendments that are already out there, instead of introducing his own (H.J. Res. 92)?

There's Tom Udall's amendment, the OCCUPIED Amendment from Rep. Ted Deutch, and an amendment written by Move to Amend.

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Michael Moore was on Piers Morgan, tonight, for the full hour, again, all the better to improve Piers Morgan's ratings no doubt, and Michael was in really great form, linguistically that is. Piers Morgan did all he could to put a positive spin on Republicans and the ruling elite, and tried to blame the 99% for being irresponsible as being the reason for our horrid economy. But Michael Moore brilliantly responded in every case and pretty much stole the show. Even in the end when Piers tried to use more personal attacks about Michael Moore's love life...dating...Michael hit back with his own rhetorical snap about Piers sex life that left Piers blushing.

Oh, don't get me sttarted on this one... I want to get to bed some time tonight. Have been expounding about this on my E-mail and Facebook. We just got thru hammering away against the right wing overreaches in Ohio (and won btw). Am recently retired after fifty years with Uncle Sam (Military - including fifteen years in Asia), and the Post Office. Am a current member of an NALC (National Asociation of Letter Carriers) Branch (Postal Union) in San Antinio Texas. Thom, everything you said in the article is true. I think our union is nr 2 or 3 largest union in the U.S. and the right wing has been falling all over itself trying to privatize us, so that they can see off all the lucrative parts to the their rich entrepeneur friends... so whats new here - not much, except for magnitude of the arrogance and unreasonableness by the right wing. We would be showing a profit right now, except for the Bush administration's attempt to make us pay up SEVENTY FIVE years worth of future health care benefits within TEN years... this is so ridiculous that it would be laffable, except for the fact, that if it goes thru, I have been told that I will lose my Postal Pension. Well whoopty do do do - and how do you like that? Well, I (and many of my buds) will fight like hell (for real) if we should lose these pensions - this I promise. The thing that the right wing fears the most is the threat of themselves and their rich counterparts losing their ill begotton gains. They are used to pulling all their shenanigans, nearly all undercover of the public and getting away with them. Well that ain't happending anymore because as of late, everyone's true colors are being exposed. And given the overreach last winter of the right wing and the tea party and their inspiration the Koch brothers have attempt to purvey on the rest of us, many citizens in this country have finally awakened to new realities and are what could be described as hyper-vigilant right now. I certainly am. If you want to see a real pumped up "Occupy" movement, see what it looks like with thoudands of additional disgruntled postal employees, as well as the swath of reutrning Irag/Afghanistan veterans who can't find work. I don't have a lot to do anymore, and I am looking for a real nuts and bolts cause and Occupy" would fit right up my alley. I have to say one last thing... I understand why, at this point in time, the one percenters would vote for Republicans (in fact I am independent and voted for John McCain during the last election), but I sure as hell won't vote for any of the crop out there now - the only one that makes any sense and is due some respect is Ron Paul. Why do 40/50 % of the rest of the public vote Republican - just in case you don't know it is all about God, Gays and Guns for them, which ultimately hasn't got a damned thing to do with the state of the economy that we are in. We in the U.S.and Europe are quickly headed into become a low wage market for the newly emerging markets - Asia, especially China and India. Beware once that our long lost jobs start trickling back here, and they will, they will be the very low skill and low wage types. China and India have about a billion people and we have about 350 million people over here - so do the math. They are used to working for 2/3 bucks per day, and we are not, but barring drastic changes to our political/economic infrastructure, our people will be so deperate that they will appreciate these jobs, just to be employed. You had better wake up people cause the economic/political apocolypse is approaching, and if you think the multi-national corporations are going to take care of you, then think again. They serve loyalty to no barrier, border, country, culture, or anything, except profits for the investors... you know the poeple who don't work but make money off of your labor - think about it! Please reply - I am too old to insult!

Think it is inevitable, considering the looming crises facing the U.S. (and Europe), and most of you know what I am talking about. The Occupy movement is only going to grow as long as the gap between the ultra rich and the rest of us gets larger. Push is coming to shove over here, and as long we continue to allow ourselves to be bamboozled by the one percent, including the multi-nationals, there will be no progress. The multi-nationals honor no code or creed, borders, nationalities etc. ...only honors profits for investors. One largely held doomsday scenario is that the U.S. and Europe will eventuallly become low wage (slave) labor markets for the new emerging markets in Asia, especially India and Cina. Those two countries have about a billion people compared to our 350 million over here. Right now they are used to working to working for 2/3 bucks a day - we are not (YET), but the way things are going, many of the very low skill/low wage jobs will be moved back to the U.S. and Europe, And our people will willingly accept them. Nothing in the history of societies ever remains static, and I fear that our turn in the barrel is coming. Just retired from 50 years with Uncle Sam (Military and the Postal Service)... fifteen years in Asia... Back in the early sixties I would never have dreamed that we in this country would have arrived in such a predicament, especially in such a short time... I really fear for the outlook of my grandkids and beyond... Great commentary guys and a special thanx to Thom for his learned observance. We must establish a meaningful dialogue if we are ever going to be able to plan our way out of the emerging debacle(s)!

I have been predicting a revolution of sorts for some years now, and it's happening with the OWS movement. But, if something doesn't happen next year I fear for the worst not only for the U.S. but the world. If our worst nightmare happens, we could be in for some very tough times and blood may run in the streets, a sight I really don't wish to see. The line is being drawn in the sand.

It is at least a push back. With all of the bundled packages sold to so many different banks, I wonder if the banks have the Paper Documentation along with the Deed to back up their claim to individual properties being forclosed. After watching Michael Moore's movie, "Capitalism: A Love Story" I think that the Occuppy Movement will have a positive effect on Forclosures...

I'm very progressive and have fully supported the Occupy movement to date- but can't get behind this action and am afraid it will really taint the Occupy movement. While we need immediate regulations on the banks and wall st to prevent their continued looting of the American people, I think we must not taint the movement by blatant disregard for property rights and law. It is one thing to occupy a public place- quite another to take over a vacant house. We need to get legislation written and elect representatives who will push it- like the teaparty did.

agreed Its already begun OWS Voting results in Ohio Kentucky Wis Mississippi prove it More to come Union buster lying greedy Gov Walker may be recalled Who's next ?

Ron Paul is great and so is Dennis Kucinich.. One does not have to agree with everything Ron Paul says. Just bringing back all military posts from around the world, stop the war's is enough for me in the now or next 4 years. One as to wonder if Ron can get it done ? If so, That will be a start. Ron is not playing the circus card or the clown. The rest are a joke , One has to wonder's if they even Know what they are talking about or talking to,and really feel about us. Can one tell Just by what they say. " It seems the 99% are left out! When you think about it , Thank goodness if you get my drift ) Lets keep them out! They sound like orphans.. Again ~ One has to wonder what do they really think of us, that is the 99 %.? ~~ I for one can not watch these debates for most, they are embarrassing.. If one Weigh out circumstances... Its a Circus !

This is the very Heart of Things-

We are raging against "banks" and corporations" without understanding their genealogy and their ways. We have to know the enemy. They are like vampires- they are safe in the dark when we don't know who they are or from whence things came.

Exposed to the light, they shrivel. So we can only break down the fortress of secrecy by understanding how everything came to be in the place it is in now, and how things have changed from as far back as we can remember.

I started at this very young. I had a need to sort out how things came to be "owned." On road trips I whiled away the time wondering why certain restaurants, motels, and brands of gas were on the Turnpike, why so many things were named "Ace" or "Atlas," and who owned all the rows and rows of pine trees over the Georgia State Line.

Now I know it all as the St. Joe Company and the rape of Florida, not information I should have been taught in college, but the truth the actual records of things bears.

In Florida State Colleges the little that is taught about the draining of the Everglades, Henry Morrison Flagler and Standard Oil is not necessarily correct. There are great omissions of the truth in Florida history because the Land Boom preceding the stock market crash was a very important stratagem for the industrialists who spent their Depression in Palm Beach, or Tarpon fishing on Gasparilla island. Since they also provided for the universities, in return a number of names and important occurrences have been left out of the curriculum.

It is what has been left out of our educations that puts us at a disadvantage.

If you look through my chronologies, it is not so complicated. Mostly I have put news events, historical events, dates of deeds, and corporation creation entries in order. Each State has a different form for how their citation appears which makes looking at my pages tiring and confusing.

Different forms of databasing corporate records by different states also makes it very difficult to cross-reference across state lines entities and subsidiaries in a search.

Example, to find all finance corporations created 9/9/2001, as might be useful for Homeland Security detectives, the search for each entity would have to include 9/09/2001,9/9/01, 9/09/01, 9-9-2001, etc., and for federal reserve data 2001-09-09.

For the Criminal Corporations, dates of creation signify movement of assets into a new account held by a new entity. The only reason that Criminals incorporate is because they have to in order to hold money under a fictitious entity. Incorporation is their only paper trail.

In that way you can follow money through time. The Criminal corporations have a very regular schedule of entity creation based on bond lengths and the financial increments

25 years = one bank charter
30 years= one insurance charter or mortgage
50 years= one real estate corporation or pipeline or railroad mortgage

This brings up why, before so many laws were removed, a real estate corporation was by its Articles "a fifty-year" corporation. In most states, any title which is clouded or might become clouded is clear after 50 years.

EXCEPT foreclosure is the only other means to absolutely clear a Title.

Therefore, a 50-year real estate corporation instead of using one initial set of mortgages as securities, say for a 50-year pipeline bond, could re-take the property, clear all titles in a mass foreclosure, and use the same land again to secure a 50-year railroad bond. The real estate corporation deposits the two bonds secured by the same land in a bank which uses the bonds as securities for real estate loans. Naturally, the real estate company can borrow against the bonds and the land it has taken back to acquire more real esate.

Apparently, some banks, beginning in the Depression decided not to pay each other off on the long term notes, which accounts for the stupendous rise in large banks knocking down independents like ducks in a shooting gallery. Therefore, in reality, the latest bloom of foreclosures was possibly "on the books," secured by phony old pipeline and railroad notes, aside from being illegally signed.

This is what I believe MERS was for- to "daisy chain" real estate prices through spin-off mortgage companies which actually belong to the bank itself. But not really, because whose unsecured funds financed the mortgages? It made convenient and possible, in terms of human labor and recording of deeds, to, through several entity assignments of mortgage in the chain of title, create national chaos.

From the time of King James, Inheritance and Property Laws were diligently made and put in place, to keep bandits away from the homestead. In this caper, even Equity was stripped away as no-good robbers fouled up the land from their hog wallow, devaluing everyone's property.

When you look into it, nationally and historically, it's the same assignees and title companies as ever, in their citadel of Financial Strength.

It's a Small World, which became even smaller in 1950, the day the President of Coke became the President of Pepsi.

Inexpugnably ugly? Ugliness that can't be beaten out?

Or was it inexpungeably ugly--unable to be expunged?

It turns out "expugnable" is an entry on dictionary.reference.com and means "conquerable". So "unconquerably ugly".