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1. Tolerance is the essence of democracy. OF COURSE we shoi,d all have to learn Spanish and English and everthing should Be available in both. No loss at all and we immediately gain commitment of all Hispanic US Americans as equal vulture members.
2. We no longer have a Republican Party. The party of Abrahem Lincoln is dead. Instead, as Hitlers small band did in Germany, a small group of highly cohesive and power driven right wing extremists have subverted a party with a more appealing name to a faschist agemda. There it was the German Nationalist Workers Party (Nationalistische Arbeiter Partei) that became the vehicle for the fascists we knew and fought as Nazis. Here the Tea Party has subverted the formerly somewhat conservative democratic party, called Repiblican or, from the Civil War era, the GOP for its latter day faschist agenda. It has not yet made that third step in naming that Hitlers thugs did: National Workers - National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP)-Nazi.
So let's complete the process here: Tea Party - Republican -: REPUGNIKAN. It is truly a name they deserve.
3. As long as our public is satiated with materialistic narcissism, it will be vulnerable to the marketing of the Karl Rove Goebbels Repugnikans. Self absorbed consumers cannot by other oriented, compromise and debate liking citizens. So the questions are:
A. Have we hit bottom yet with our addiction to hierarchy and self gratification, or, alternatively, can the talk to a Thom and Sen Sanswrs and Ed and Rachel etc raise the bottom so that we can hit is very soon? and
B. Even if we hit it soon, have too many of the foundations of successful democracy in The US already been destroyed to rebuild? Can we really go back?
3. All the recalls and indignation and protests are called for and necessary, but may be insufficient. Every Democrat/progressive action these days is high energy, but the Republicans are acting out a strategic plan to make the US a one party country and they have been developing the plan and training their legions since the 1960s at least. Their success is manifeswhere is our proactive Democrat plan? Where are our legions? What will be doing to capture the heaTts and minds of battered Americans after the recalls?
I owe like 5k to credit crd I cannot pay! If they throw my azz in there will ya bail me out Tom! I will sit out on the street and sell your books for a whole year! Help
I think Donald Slump should be thrown into a debtor's prison .In 1991, unable to pay a $3.5 billion loan, he declared business bankruptcy. He also came close to filing personal ruin. At the time, his personal debt was estimated to be around $900 million. Due to the bankruptcy, banks and bondholders lost millions. They came to a compromise with Donald Trump. The banks gave him lower interest rates and a longer time frame to repay the debt and Donald Trump gave the investors half the ownership of the Taj Mahal. In mere months the casino was back in business.
Not even a year later, Trump Plaza Hotel folded and Donald had to declare bankruptcy. Again, he worked out a deal where he’d give up 49 percent of the hotel to Citibank and the other lenders and he’d get more time to pay the loan back. It took him two years to repay most of his debt with many sacrifices. He had to give up the Trump Shuttle.
The bankruptcy saga didn’t stop there. In 2004, Donald filed for bankruptcy protection and restructured his debt. He reduced his ownership of Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts to 27 percent and gave bondholders stocks to help lower his debt and then stepped down as CEO. In 2005, things settled down and Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts came out of bankruptcy with a new name, Trump Entertainment Resort Holdings.
Unfortunately the reemergence didn’t last long. On February 17th 2009, Donald Trump filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy with a debt ratio of $50 million in assets to his $500 million in debt. This filing made the third bankruptcy for Trump Enterprises.
Requiring English as an official language would be a good way to develop a sense of citizenship and appreciation of American societal norms, but it could too easily be used to prevent people from voting. Not so long ago, certain people had to pass "literacy tests" in order to be allowed to vote, particularly in some Southern states.
Is Thom the lefts Rush
Russell your argument is almost has dishonest has Thoms survey. People are not being arrested for for their depts they are being arrested for not showing up for court. Which probably explains why most of these people didn't pay their bills in the first place. If you beleive in the rule of law and you are a responsible person You show up for your court dates period. Next to clintons wealth during the 2008 primaries when Clinton finally released his tax records it was report by all the major news agencies that he had earned over $100,000,000.00 dollars since leaving the white house. Let me get this strate someone that claims to be socially progressive (support for Sanders PS Sanders is not a democrat) thinks that we should compare a former president with entertainers) please explain. My point is that if you look at Clinton's record he was more right wing then Eisenhower or Nixon(even the man you follow blindly Thom has mentioned this repeatedly) but to sheep that follow blindly I guess it doen't matter what the people you follow do it only matters that they tell you their on your side (sounds tribal to me "BA,BA"). Sir has for who do I follow? I'm no republican and anyone who read my posting can clearly see I am no sheep I question thouse that say they are progressive just has hard if not harder then the opposition. Following blindly is how we got where we are today. The democrats have had has a party platform for years that universal medicare was there gole, well were is it. Thats OK though because people like you will continue to follow blindly. Has to your question who do I support? I support no one blindly and when I do support someone in an election I expect them to follow through on their promises and if they don't my supports stops and I look for someone else. To your point that we have a two party sytem and it can't be changed I feel for you man that your immagination is so weak. If new parties can be created in parliamentary countries like Canada and Australia and you know our system was started with no parties it's easier to start a third party in America then just about anywhere else this argument that you cannot have a third party is just another way to force you to vote for corporate interest or get you not to vote at all. I refuse to be beaten so easily I guess you don't have the stomach for true reform and you must be happy with the way things have been going the last thirty years. True change will take more then one election but I guess your looking for instant solutions hows that working out for you? By the way I have noticed that when people don't have have good responses during debates or arguments they often go on tangents where they either look to attack the person rather then the idea. This seems to be what your doing with your attack on my spelling(most messages I have seen here have errors and I am new at using this service and looked for the spell check, I was not able to find it so instead of taking cheap shots let me know were I can find it) and trying to bring in the Tee party A bunch of right sheep that lack the ability to understand they are fighting against their own best interest(I feel sorry for them almost has much has I do for you and others on the left that don't get that staying with the democrats has the same effect). Has to your point about we have the democratic party to thank for SSN and Medicare you are partly write only. I thank the people more then a political party and over the last thirty years only a democrat has reduced payroll taxes thereby helping to destroy it quicker. Just Like glass segal could only be gotten rid of by a democrat only social security can be destroyed by a democrat. The reasons should be self evident but incase you don't get it think of it this way. The most dangerous enemy is not the one you think is your enemy but the one you think is your friend. Has for workers writes where are the democrats and this president when it come to supporting workers in Wisconson and Michigan has well has other state where workers are under attack. The president during the election said if he saw workers right under attack he would march with them. Well where is he and the rest of the party leadership nowhere. Again say one thing do the opposite. I did not leave the democrats they left me, they sold out and will do worse damage to progressive progress in this country then the republicans could ever do because we know the GOP is the enemy and will fight them But with followers like you this party will have no resistance to putting corporate interest ahead of the peoples interest. The only way to go down faster then supporting the GOP is supporting the Democrats. I for one will continue to fight for progressive progress in this country but I will not waiste my time money or energy on a party that betrays us everytime.
The Republican Screw You Deal.
1. Defund Planned Parenthood. Where millions of women receive their contraception from. This creates more births.
2. Make it nearly impossible for any woman in any circumstance to receive an abortion.
3. Defund WIC. Resulting in poor nutrition for children.
4. Defund Headstart programs. Mom can't go back to work.
5. Cut school budgets and crush teachers unions. Result? Most good teachers leave the profession to get real jobs that pay twice as much. School teachers become glorified babysitters. Johnny can't read.
6. Employers don't care because they sent Johnny's job off shore.
The New World Order.
10 K Great choice. Former Sen & McCain close advisor Phil Gramm & his lobbyist wife made 900 K off that slimy Enron loophole deal that - wiped out Enron workers life savings / 401 K while the Gramms walked away more wealthy than ever Who said crime does not pay ? Why is it legal for lobbyists to' bribe ' our politicians ? Our system of justice sucks !
Lets see Thom Smirking Tom Delay finally got what he deserved. I think all the top honchos at Goldman Sachs should have to serve time or at least pay a huge fine & publically apologize for being such devious greedy crooks. DICK Cheney with his very sweet deals with big oil also deserve punishment. but I will not hold my breath. This is not the GOP I grew up with This is a whole other breed of non human heartless cretins.
What I understood also is that the state gets about 45 thousand a year from the fed or should I say from you for each prisoner that is held.. So if that is true, just how much tax do you pay in on 45 THou each year. 2-3 thou....Of cause they get health care and many other things that homeless people may not get. I do not know what the cost is each year for one person in jail. I do know that a family of 4 can do very well on 45 thou with house exspenses Car payments etc...
I was surprised to see 27% in the poll thought Americans would wake up and stop this... With all the corporate money out there "controlling" elections, I dont think it matters much what the people think..
John Samuels of GE is one that should be jailed. Check out the NYT article about their non payment of taxes on billions in income. Zero Hedge also mentions it today.
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They, Republican and Democrat, have been doing these things as mayors, congressmen, senators, and governors, and getting away with it since the beginning of running America. We have to make up our minds about how much immorality we as a society are willing to tolerate or simply deny?
How are we going to expect to have GOOD GOVERNMENT made out of Bad Men?
Are Good Men in charge when eighteen year old young ladies are pole dancing their way through college, vying for a place at the Playboy Mansion, or at least marriage to a professional athlete? Why are children as alcoholics or drug addicts packing pistols? Why are already beautiful young women in the bloom of womanhood pumping, implanting, injecting things into their faces and body parts, even vacuuming their derriere for stuff to turn their lips into a rubber life raft?
This is becoming downright unrespectable.
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There you go again, changing the subject, twisting my words. I never said all democrats were war mongers. You did. But I guess you see what you want to see. This is a simple fix though. Reread the statements I've written here. Show the quote where I stated all democrat presidents are war mongers.
Speaking of demagoguery, you are the perfect example of a demagogue. A buffoon with a thesaurus.
Prisoners are valued for the crimes they commit and the prisoners, represented by this value is bundled with other prisoners and sold on the stock market. Could this be a reason why the US has more prisoners than any other country in the world.? Whose the worst criminal? tried to locate the recent book about this and can't locate. See sites below
http://www.parentsinaction.net/english/Prison/OWNERS-OF-THE-PRISON-SYSTE...
"What they are doing is selling stock in the prison system by selling the prisoners’ accounts as securities through the securities exchange. They are making huge amounts of money off it. They privatize the prisoners’ accounts and bring all these investors in and what they are doing is underwriting all these prisoner’s accounts (bonds). This is after the surety company guarantees the bonds. Then they are underwritten through an investment bank or banker. Then they are put out on the market and resold to the public." cited from address below
http://www.wariscrime.com/2008/11/07/news/how-illuminati-are-trading-pri...
http://www.redemptionservice.com/contents/prisoners_in_america.asp
How to look up any prisoners number and find it on the stock exchange
"Prisoners now answer phones for corporations, make 36% of all appliances sold in the US, license plates, road construction, and various other jobs, all performed for the profits of the corporation. The corporations also collect from the states and federal governments while at the same time profiting from the contracting out of prison labor. The higher the prison population the greater the number of prisoner bonds sold on Wall Street. This is organized crime. perpetuated by private corporations who treat the prisoners as commodities." Cited from site below
http://ppjg.wordpress.com/2010/12/26/america%E2%80%99s-prison-system-cor...
When we finally take back our country from the corporate banksters we need to take a que from Russia and create a gulag for them in Alaska (comparable to Siberia) where we can force them to break large rocks on the frozen tundra. Just a fantasy I suppose, but we can always dream. =)
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In my judgement Phil Gramm has long been at the top of the list as being the person most responsible for the current REPUBLICAN DEPRESSION. If only he and his wife realized the pain and misery their money grab has caused for untold millions of working class citizens. History will not be kind to this chapter of selfish deregulation. God and FDR have mercy. Jail time!
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Gov LePage of Maine is, or could be, the ULTIMATE poster boy for the conservative Party and the New Robber Barons.
Among the many other crazy policies he is pursuing in Maine is the one where he now wants to remove an art Mural from the Maine Dept of Labor that depicts various Maine Workers and Maine worker history because...ready...IT MAKES MAINE BUSINESS LEADERS uneasy as they enter the building!!! This in the Maine Department Of Labor!
Talk about stomping on Workers! Those who are actually responsible for making things in this country! (There is even talk of his wanting to repeal Child Labor Laws!)
The policies this man is pursuing here in Maine borders on the monumental ignorant! And observing what is happening in Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan, Penn. and Tenn., this man wants to outdo them all, as if he is in a race to be the lowest mole in the hole!
This is a total insult to every working Man and Woman in America. This is the message that the conservatives and the new robber barons have for the American worker – you suck!
These are the type of people now running our government: Mean, Vicious, Reprehensible, Predatory, Greedy, Uncaring, and Criminal.
Yes pick up any Good American History Book and do get the correct facts. DEMOCRATIC presidents are NOT all WAR MONGERS! They only clean up the mess that republican presidents and administrations leave behind. Fact. Any reasonable person can come up with the same conclusion using simple logic and the facts of history. (It is no surprise to anyone that President Obama INHERITED 2 wars begun by a REPUBLICAN president, Bush the Younger, and now has to clean the mess that that republican president left behind). Unless, of course, that FACT escapes bicyclingjroad completely or that it disproves his statement that ALL DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTS ARE WAR MONGERS. Facts do Matter.
I don't want to win the discussion; I just want to make sure that seeming categorical statements as stated by bicyclingjroad are correct and true, not just demagoguery.
Woman in the SF Bay area boards her dog at a pet center while she goes on vacation to Mexico. When she gets back, she finds a small hole (about 1" in diameter) in the side of the dog. She confronts the pet center and gets the run around. She starts making comments about how badly her dog was cared for by this pet center and then she gets a letter from the pet center's lawyers threatening to sue her for making such comments on-line (bad publicity). She seeks help from a local TV station and I think the matter was finally dropped by the lawyers. One of the first tactics lawyers make seems to be writing threatening letters that they will sue. Most people will be so threatened that they will allow themselves to be bullied by those lawyers. This, I understand, has become a really big problem in that many "businesses" are now trying to "protect" themselves from "bad publicity" by getting their customers to sign an agreement (read the fine print), that you really do not have to sign (no legal basis), before they will sell you their goods or services. Isn't this basically what the medical establishment has been doing for a long time now? Getting you to sign a waver or agreement that you would not hold them responsible for problems that may occur as a result of their "negligence"? Anyway, this new thing has to do with getting you to keep you silent about complaints you have, expressing them on-line, that would be "bad publicity" and warn other potential customers away. I think we need more of this kind of thing....more on-line complaint sites...to warn people of bad business practices.
PLEASE SEE MY RESPONSE FROM YESTERDAY!!
Hobbies, First of all, please use spell check, Second, where do you get Clinton's net worth? He is worth about $35~$38m depending on where you get your information, Nothing spectacular in this day and age. Think in terms of sports or entertainment personalities. I am speaking for myself, no one else. I don't get where you are coming from. I ilke Bernie Sanders, who do you like? What do you think of Republicans? Surely Decomrats aren't the only rats in the trap. I support Democrats, with varying degrees of enthusiasm. I can't support any Republicans, especially the newer Tea Party types. Like it or not, we have a choice of two parties with a chance of winning public office. Neither perfect, both corrupt to varying degrees. Ralph Nader is not a viable option, Debate him for what practical purpose? Who provides the best foundation to build on? For the average person, the Democratic party is built on the bedrock of Social Security, Medicare, worker's and civil rights. The Republicans are built on a foundation of quicksand. Hop on with them and you are going down fast.
Many prisons are getting rid of their prisoners (some, for crimes a lot more serious than not being able to pay their bills) because it is too costly to the State to keep them. And now they are trying to refill them with people who can't pay their bills? And the really bad criminals, the banksters (etal), get away with their crimes, patted on the back by the politicians, and can even get away with mass murder (Military Industrial Complex..fomenting war in far away places...reaping the blood money from those middle class taxpayers who are the only ones paying the taxes). These super criminals set the example for the rest of us...to hell with honesty and justice and all the other lies that the rich feed the ones they crush. Let the little guys fret and worry with guilt over such matters. Feed him more fantasies of earning his trip to heaven and more paranoia about some all-powerful boogieman that sees everything you do and judges you every minute. Carpe Diem! That's what the rich believe in dispite what they preach. Survival of the fittest! And so as we all look to our mentors on how to conduct ourselves...our world evolves into a cesspool of sinister, greedy, animals preying after one another. The courts, our justice system, and politicians are corrupt and effete and live the same lie as their puppetmasters, the rich, who own them. We are on the verge of total control by these legions of corrupt capitalists as the RFIDs embedded in our passports, drivers licenses, and credit cards, and if you have devices like OnStar in your vehicles, traffic cameras, and CCTV cameras watch and/or detect your whereabouts. In case you don't know it yet...some bank debit cards and credit cards have the RFID chips/with antennas embedded in them. The idea they try to sell you on is that it is so much more convenient to just wave your card in front of a detector in order to pay for things. Problem is that, theoretically, if you walk by a detector your card could be scanned without you even knowing about it. Your account could be debited when your card is scanned right from your wallet or purse. Other scenarios are also possible...your location can be detect when you pass by a RFID detector. Perhaps everytime you enter or leave a store that has the detectors at the door could theoretically tell someone monitoring it who you are, and where you are at a particular time. They would also have access to any other data...like sensitive bank card information. Warning! The following information is not intended by me to be advice and if you act upon the information then do so at your own risk and consequences. But it is all over the internet...do research...There is a way to destroy these chips in your bank cards. You can actually see a little square indentation on the back of the card where you can carefully cut the back side of the plastic card....dig in with an exacto knife... and scrape the chip out leaving the front side of the card untouched. The antenna runs all along just inside of the outside edge which you probably can't see. It is not important to destroy the antenna if you just get the chip. The chip is only about 1/8-1/4" square and the indentation can be seen if you view it at various angles. Some people just drill holes through it. You can get ideas on YouTube. I believe you would still be able to use the card for debits using the untouched magnetic strip. There is also a YouTube video of an interview of one of the stars of MythBusters on the Discovery Channel who talks about how pressure was brought to bear on the Discovery Channel by certain lawyers representing the credit card companies not to air a program on RFIDs. Of course you can also use a less destructive method of using a shield...but it's a lot cheaper just to make sure you've "fixed" the problem permenantly. Of course, if you still want to pay for your lattes the easy way then don't do anything and risk possible unexpected financial problems or being tracked in the future. The banksters love you to be more concerned with "convenience" rather than "security" anyway.