One thing I am puzzled by the liberals about the voting ID issue has me scratching me head... College Students being denied the right to vote with Student ID??? I ask one question, where is their resident status, in the State they're attending college or their home state if it differs? As a honorably discharged USMC CPL, I was stationed all around but voted absentee in the great State of Illinois. If the studently truly change their residency status while in college, absolutely vote away or as in Chicago, Vote early and vote often ;)
But on a serious note for disabled voters, don't they have a plaquard or anything like a tax number for their disabled status? I am not questioning them, i am asking because I don't know... As a USMC vet, I totally get my fellow brothers and sisters died to give us this great country. Think about founding fathers gave everything knowing they would lose everything or have Freedom. John Hancock was so passionate, He signed his name so large so the King of england could read it without his glasses on...
One more thing nobody is talking about is, the Federal Income impact on the States. We pay tax, as we should, and that money get spread around and refunded to the States. But... If you cut the Fed rate, there is no money to send back to the States which puts them in a pickle. Many State programs depend on Fed funding and if that money is gone, those programs are doomed which is what the right wants. Doesn't it make more sense to educate your youth which makes our nation stronger???? After reading Threshold from Professor Thom, I think so...
Jobs for everyone, Health care for everyone, Stop the wars and bring that money back home where it belongs. Obama says - Our responsiblities to our fellow human beings Some nations may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities in other countries. The United States is different. OK ..... I know We have such a loving military leaders just full of heart and love That they can't wait to create a new job and help other countries in times of trouble of cause we have to pay them. Perhaps we should be glad they not helping us. Aren't there Atrocities on going on in this country ! Are you blind? The US. Is different! Different all right. We like No health care. Just Great ! No jobs, We love it! Hungry families, living on the streets, Wonderful ! Do I need to go on> We are being attack from every which way. We can take it. We love being losers. "Don't worry we can be happy. Nothing effects us. Are our corporations helping by paying their share of taxes. Have they paid anything? Obama what are you doing, you live here in the USA..
We didn't hear about it when 700,000 people protested Bush's visit to Quebec in 2002 either. Americans were totally unaware of the massive anti-war demonstrations all around the world.
A few weeks ago many women - and some curious men - gathered on the Suisan Bridge in Hilo Hawaii to protest the ongoing wars and to demonstrate that women, who celebrated the International Day of Women, are against the costs of lives and money in our ongoing wars and presence in many countries of the world. We called for an end to senseless wars that are a massive drain on our country's resources.
As a webcast news source option, the livestation.com site has various international channels available including the RT channel (at one tme the signal was available in my area with a converter box, but at least RT is online)...in comparison to mainstream news offerings, I find these channels are timely and informative.
Occasionally I get BBC on PBS, but it is late at night and I don't see it consistently. Sometimes, based on their news, you would think they are on a different planet. I would gladly trade the crap I get on cable for a full time BBC and Al Jazerra channels. How many Ginsu knives and George Foreman grilles can I use!
Gosh, I guess NPR missed that one. They were too busy airing Richard Harris' recitation of TEPCO press releases from Tokyo. In any case, you asked about demonstration here at home? You bet! Several in western Mass. and yet another on April 4. However, isn't it time for the BIG march on Washington? Thom, is there room on your couch?
Wow ! DIdn't seem to be very much coverage on this event on world news tonight. Is it my imagination or are the media downplaying the issues as not to spread decent. Where is investigative
reporting these days. Obscure corners of the web or underground papers with little distribution ?
All I here on Face the Nation is Libya. Another war in the sandbox.
ITS NOT ON US NEWS US CORP RUN MEDIA IS THE FACE OF HUGE CORPORATIONS SO OF COURSE THEY DO NOT CRITITIQUE THEIR ' BOSS'S / WHO WRITE THEIR HUGE PAY CHECKS HOW PATHETIC
I never seize to be amazed at how, narrow minded the conservative view on social safety nets really is. It makes only sense if they live on a different planet. The argument to abandon welfare because there are some bad apples in the system who could use it to get a free ride is misguided. It does not make any sense. To cut a whole system because of a small minority who slacks off will cut short the greater good it can do for a much bigger portion of the population who use it constructively to get back on their feet, which then again is of benefit for the country as a whole. In my mind there is something inherently unpatriotic about this, and it has nothing to do with rich, poor, good or bad. It is an ideology that is so 'reverse current' of everything that makes sense, because the same people who want to destroy social safety nets argue for tax money in form of bail outs and obscene bonuses to a moiority of banksters who caused the system to collapse in the first place; and pull the carpet away from that very part of the population that is then dependent on social safety nets. Since none of this makes any logical sense, I wonder if the whole conservative agenda is not rather based on some form of neurosis rather than political ideology, and if it is, I wonder if there is a form of cure for it, and if there isn't, I wonder when they will stop, after everything is destroyed?
Ms Lukas's argument assumes that folk are being warehoused by welfare devoid of any positive effects within the society. If for no other reason that expanding the sales tax base, she in wrong.
Ms Lukas is absolutely incorrect. Liberty requires a baseline.
May she find any future time in an unemployment line, not onerous but be grateful that our great nation provides for folk that need it . . . That is if she ever moves back to America.
This was sent to me by a fellow state employee here at the Wis. Dept. of Public Instruction:Subject: Teachers salary
Are you sick of highly paid teachers?
Teachers' hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work 9 or10 months a year! It's time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do - babysit! We can get that for less than minimum wage.That's right. Let's give them $3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school. That would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch and plan-- that equals 6 1/2 hours).
Each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children. Now how many students do they teach in a day...maybe 30? So that's $19.50 x 30 = $585.00 a day.
However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any vacations.LET'S SEE....That's $585 X 180= $105,300 (Hold on! My calculator needs new batteries).
What about those special education teachers and the ones with Master's degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage ($7.75), and just to be fair, round it off to $8.00 anThat would be $8 X 6 1/2 hours X 30 children X 180 days = $280,800 per year. (Wait a minute -- there's something wrong here! There sure is!) The average teacher's salary(nation-wide) is $50,000. $50,000/180 days= $277.77/per day/30 students=$9.25/6.5 hours = $1.42 per hour per student--a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they even EDUCATE your kids!) WHAT A DEAL!!!!
Here is something interesting That I've been hinting about. Who knows? Was Japan earthquake induced? Take a look. Last I heard was Japan was going to put out a new car that runs on water not sure if it was water or something else. http://presscore.ca/2011/?p=1624
The task of an activist is not to navigate systems of repressive authority with as much integrety as possible. The task of an activist is to take down systems of repressive authority. - Derrick Jensen
When will the people ever unite, those damned wretched ‘ragheads’ have taught us our own lesson – Tunisia and Egypt. People have forgotten, bred out of it, their own power to amass a critical mass against these evils. Hartmann wants us to further be subservient to our masters, the ruling elite, by helping us to give up our God-given fundamental right to thwart tyranny. Just examine the models of Libya and the so-called “Amerikan Revolution” where the call to arms was necessary as a last resort.
This is why the people must demand and cause a full, international, unbiased and proper criminal investigation of the events surrounding the incident 9/11. Of course, hold those i.d.’d perpetrators accountable. When that is accomplished, then the next proper investigation gots to be of the lead up to and events surrounding the aggressive warfare on Afghanistan and Iraq. Then the next investigation would be the economic/financial collapse of Dec. ’08. At the completion of these real criminal investigations, we’ll have rounded up the major high criminals to begin to purge the cesspool and taking back control of the gov’t. apparatus.
Delster is absolutely right, unless the people unite all is lost. Folks this is the way to beat them at their own game. Rruppena is absolutely spot on, the same game is waged against the other debtors too.
Comments on 25 Mar. ’11 show:
Late on the Fri.'s show, Hartmann made some off the wall comments, I can’t sit idly by w/o speaking out. By the way, mahalo, thank you, for allowing and providing your personal e-mail adrs.
The 2d amendment is an absolute guaranteed right and not simply stricken/altered by the high court’s dicta. (the very court that gave us the Citizens United faux edict)
Courts are constituted by authority, and they cannot [act] beyond the power delegated to them. If they act beyond that authority, and certainly in contravention of it, their judgments and orders are regarded as nullities. They are not voidable, but simply void, and this even prior to reversal. Valley v. Northern Fire & Marine Ins. Co., 254 U.S. 348, 353-354 (1920). See also Elliott v. Lessee of Piersol, 26 U.S. (1Pet.) 328, 340; Old Wayne Life Assn. v. McDonough, 204 U.S. 8, 27 S.Ct. 236.
Contrary to Hartmann’s statements, the high court does not possess the power to change, modify, amend or repeal any amendment or part thereof. There is a lawful process to accomplish the changes necessary which does not include the court, including the high court, making any of those revisions.
Each state, including the orig. 13, entered the compact, confederation or Union of Several States under the authority and framework of the Constitution of the United States of Am. Therefore, each state is subject to the provisions contained in said Const. including its Bill of Rights. If such states entering the Confederation wished to amend or change any provision contained in the Fed. Constitution, including Bill of Rights, it must adhere to the lawful process to make such changes and that does not include any state making unilateral changes of its own. It may only make it own decisions within those 9th & tenth amendments. Of course the 2d Amendment to the Bill of Rights falling outside their respective purview, each state must adhere to its mandate or seek to amend or repeal though the lawful process as specified. No state can lawfully do that unilaterally even within its own jurisdiction.
This is the precise reason why Gov. Wallace was "invaded" in the early '60's by the Fed. to enforce a Constitutionally guaranteed right of equal protection under the law and equal education no matter the color of one's skin, even if it be "nigger".
Further, the term “democracy” – Hartmann fails to mention that the term, “democracy” as defined in the Fed. Constitution applies only to members of the U.S. Congress in session and not to U.S. citizens residing in D.C. Outside the fed. Zone, the de jureindiv. and independent states are respective republics and not democracies. The mere fact each state has its own constitution makes it a republic and cannot by definition be a democracy.
Otherwise, I tend to agree w/ about 65% of what Hartmann has to offer. I definitely disagree w/ his unconstitutional, inter alia, stance on the 2d Amendment. Having said that, I respect and uphold his, Hartmann, absolute right to denigrate, although unconstitutional and anti-Amerikan, this important right to thwart tyranny especially domestically from their own gov't. officials.
Hey > Making progress > I agree, We live in a barbarian world. The working class enrich this country by making billions of dollars only to be taken to the clearners to kill neighbors by the millions putting us billions into debt. Corporatism legal creation with rights and liabilities of a person ~only to violate this country laws because they say so and have the money to do so. This is = The Barbarian Age. Where greed is really showing it face today. ITs so motivated, All it can think of= Take as much as you can steal by giving as little as they can. To engage in warlike pursuits for profits.. (To steal) Just look what's going on in the environment. They would ratter destroy this planet then making it free and its people, Over their need to have everyone in a disharmony, state of slavery just so they can sit up on the thron as a kings dukes. To be King of the jungle and you are our trophy. The Killing of lions tigers buffalo for trophy to their extinction. To be On top of the heap, Piracy Slavery jungle killing. Volating Nature's laws with continue ignorance of jungle law mentality. Have they evolved? They may make you think so! It looks to me Nature is now sending us the bill.
Republicans will never wake up to what the George W. Bush administration did to this country, because 98% of the "news" is owned by right wing corporations and right wing multi-millionaires. And, the GOP will never look back at what their beloved Ronald Reagan did to start this ball rolling, out of control. So, how can we expect any die-hard Republicans to look any further than Fox Noise for their "news"?
One thing I am puzzled by the liberals about the voting ID issue has me scratching me head... College Students being denied the right to vote with Student ID??? I ask one question, where is their resident status, in the State they're attending college or their home state if it differs? As a honorably discharged USMC CPL, I was stationed all around but voted absentee in the great State of Illinois. If the studently truly change their residency status while in college, absolutely vote away or as in Chicago, Vote early and vote often ;)
But on a serious note for disabled voters, don't they have a plaquard or anything like a tax number for their disabled status? I am not questioning them, i am asking because I don't know... As a USMC vet, I totally get my fellow brothers and sisters died to give us this great country. Think about founding fathers gave everything knowing they would lose everything or have Freedom. John Hancock was so passionate, He signed his name so large so the King of england could read it without his glasses on...
One more thing nobody is talking about is, the Federal Income impact on the States. We pay tax, as we should, and that money get spread around and refunded to the States. But... If you cut the Fed rate, there is no money to send back to the States which puts them in a pickle. Many State programs depend on Fed funding and if that money is gone, those programs are doomed which is what the right wants. Doesn't it make more sense to educate your youth which makes our nation stronger???? After reading Threshold from Professor Thom, I think so...
Jobs for everyone, Health care for everyone, Stop the wars and bring that money back home where it belongs. Obama says - Our responsiblities to our fellow human beings Some nations may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities in other countries. The United States is different. OK ..... I know We have such a loving military leaders just full of heart and love That they can't wait to create a new job and help other countries in times of trouble of cause we have to pay them. Perhaps we should be glad they not helping us. Aren't there Atrocities on going on in this country ! Are you blind? The US. Is different! Different all right. We like No health care. Just Great ! No jobs, We love it! Hungry families, living on the streets, Wonderful ! Do I need to go on> We are being attack from every which way. We can take it. We love being losers. "Don't worry we can be happy. Nothing effects us. Are our corporations helping by paying their share of taxes. Have they paid anything? Obama what are you doing, you live here in the USA..
With Japan and Libya dominating the news I haven't heard any in depth coverage, but CNN has had mention and video on several occasions.
We didn't hear about it when 700,000 people protested Bush's visit to Quebec in 2002 either. Americans were totally unaware of the massive anti-war demonstrations all around the world.
A few weeks ago many women - and some curious men - gathered on the Suisan Bridge in Hilo Hawaii to protest the ongoing wars and to demonstrate that women, who celebrated the International Day of Women, are against the costs of lives and money in our ongoing wars and presence in many countries of the world. We called for an end to senseless wars that are a massive drain on our country's resources.
As a webcast news source option, the livestation.com site has various international channels available including the RT channel (at one tme the signal was available in my area with a converter box, but at least RT is online)...in comparison to mainstream news offerings, I find these channels are timely and informative.
Occasionally I get BBC on PBS, but it is late at night and I don't see it consistently. Sometimes, based on their news, you would think they are on a different planet. I would gladly trade the crap I get on cable for a full time BBC and Al Jazerra channels. How many Ginsu knives and George Foreman grilles can I use!
Gosh, I guess NPR missed that one. They were too busy airing Richard Harris' recitation of TEPCO press releases from Tokyo. In any case, you asked about demonstration here at home? You bet! Several in western Mass. and yet another on April 4. However, isn't it time for the BIG march on Washington? Thom, is there room on your couch?
Wow ! DIdn't seem to be very much coverage on this event on world news tonight. Is it my imagination or are the media downplaying the issues as not to spread decent. Where is investigative
reporting these days. Obscure corners of the web or underground papers with little distribution ?
All I here on Face the Nation is Libya. Another war in the sandbox.
Yes! Cenk Uygur is talking about it at length on MSNBC. I also saw coverage on NBC Nightly News over the weekend!
ITS NOT ON US NEWS US CORP RUN MEDIA IS THE FACE OF HUGE CORPORATIONS SO OF COURSE THEY DO NOT CRITITIQUE THEIR ' BOSS'S / WHO WRITE THEIR HUGE PAY CHECKS HOW PATHETIC
I never seize to be amazed at how, narrow minded the conservative view on social safety nets really is. It makes only sense if they live on a different planet. The argument to abandon welfare because there are some bad apples in the system who could use it to get a free ride is misguided. It does not make any sense. To cut a whole system because of a small minority who slacks off will cut short the greater good it can do for a much bigger portion of the population who use it constructively to get back on their feet, which then again is of benefit for the country as a whole. In my mind there is something inherently unpatriotic about this, and it has nothing to do with rich, poor, good or bad. It is an ideology that is so 'reverse current' of everything that makes sense, because the same people who want to destroy social safety nets argue for tax money in form of bail outs and obscene bonuses to a moiority of banksters who caused the system to collapse in the first place; and pull the carpet away from that very part of the population that is then dependent on social safety nets. Since none of this makes any logical sense, I wonder if the whole conservative agenda is not rather based on some form of neurosis rather than political ideology, and if it is, I wonder if there is a form of cure for it, and if there isn't, I wonder when they will stop, after everything is destroyed?
Ms Lukas's argument assumes that folk are being warehoused by welfare devoid of any positive effects within the society. If for no other reason that expanding the sales tax base, she in wrong.
There is a large number of corporations that intentionally abuse the system . . . Ms Lukas, what message does that send?
Ms Lukas is absolutely incorrect. Liberty requires a baseline.
May she find any future time in an unemployment line, not onerous but be grateful that our great nation provides for folk that need it . . . That is if she ever moves back to America.
This was sent to me by a fellow state employee here at the Wis. Dept. of Public Instruction:Subject: Teachers salary
Are you sick of highly paid teachers?
Teachers' hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work 9 or10 months a year! It's time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do - babysit! We can get that for less than minimum wage.That's right. Let's give them $3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school. That would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch and plan-- that equals 6 1/2 hours).
Each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children. Now how many students do they teach in a day...maybe 30? So that's $19.50 x 30 = $585.00 a day.
However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any vacations.LET'S SEE....That's $585 X 180= $105,300 (Hold on! My calculator needs new batteries).
What about those special education teachers and the ones with Master's degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage ($7.75), and just to be fair, round it off to $8.00 anThat would be $8 X 6 1/2 hours X 30 children X 180 days = $280,800 per year. (Wait a minute -- there's something wrong here! There sure is!) The average teacher's salary(nation-wide) is $50,000. $50,000/180 days= $277.77/per day/30 students=$9.25/6.5 hours = $1.42 per hour per student--a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they even EDUCATE your kids!) WHAT A DEAL!!!!
Here is something interesting That I've been hinting about. Who knows? Was Japan earthquake induced? Take a look. Last I heard was Japan was going to put out a new car that runs on water not sure if it was water or something else. http://presscore.ca/2011/?p=1624
Congratulations, John Kasich. It has only taken you 75 days to make me ashamed to be an Ohioan again.
Thanks SueN!
http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2011/03/police-force-used-enforce-comp...
The task of an activist is not to navigate systems of repressive authority with as much integrety as possible. The task of an activist is to take down systems of repressive authority. - Derrick Jensen
When will the people ever unite, those damned wretched ‘ragheads’ have taught us our own lesson – Tunisia and Egypt. People have forgotten, bred out of it, their own power to amass a critical mass against these evils. Hartmann wants us to further be subservient to our masters, the ruling elite, by helping us to give up our God-given fundamental right to thwart tyranny. Just examine the models of Libya and the so-called “Amerikan Revolution” where the call to arms was necessary as a last resort.
This is why the people must demand and cause a full, international, unbiased and proper criminal investigation of the events surrounding the incident 9/11. Of course, hold those i.d.’d perpetrators accountable. When that is accomplished, then the next proper investigation gots to be of the lead up to and events surrounding the aggressive warfare on Afghanistan and Iraq. Then the next investigation would be the economic/financial collapse of Dec. ’08. At the completion of these real criminal investigations, we’ll have rounded up the major high criminals to begin to purge the cesspool and taking back control of the gov’t. apparatus.
Delster is absolutely right, unless the people unite all is lost. Folks this is the way to beat them at their own game. Rruppena is absolutely spot on, the same game is waged against the other debtors too.
Comments on 25 Mar. ’11 show:
Late on the Fri.'s show, Hartmann made some off the wall comments, I can’t sit idly by w/o speaking out. By the way, mahalo, thank you, for allowing and providing your personal e-mail adrs.
The 2d amendment is an absolute guaranteed right and not simply stricken/altered by the high court’s dicta. (the very court that gave us the Citizens United faux edict)
Courts are constituted by authority, and they cannot [act] beyond the power delegated to them. If they act beyond that authority, and certainly in contravention of it, their judgments and orders are regarded as nullities. They are not voidable, but simply void, and this even prior to reversal. Valley v. Northern Fire & Marine Ins. Co., 254 U.S. 348, 353-354 (1920). See also Elliott v. Lessee of Piersol, 26 U.S. (1Pet.) 328, 340; Old Wayne Life Assn. v. McDonough, 204 U.S. 8, 27 S.Ct. 236.
Contrary to Hartmann’s statements, the high court does not possess the power to change, modify, amend or repeal any amendment or part thereof. There is a lawful process to accomplish the changes necessary which does not include the court, including the high court, making any of those revisions.
Each state, including the orig. 13, entered the compact, confederation or Union of Several States under the authority and framework of the Constitution of the United States of Am. Therefore, each state is subject to the provisions contained in said Const. including its Bill of Rights. If such states entering the Confederation wished to amend or change any provision contained in the Fed. Constitution, including Bill of Rights, it must adhere to the lawful process to make such changes and that does not include any state making unilateral changes of its own. It may only make it own decisions within those 9th & tenth amendments. Of course the 2d Amendment to the Bill of Rights falling outside their respective purview, each state must adhere to its mandate or seek to amend or repeal though the lawful process as specified. No state can lawfully do that unilaterally even within its own jurisdiction.
This is the precise reason why Gov. Wallace was "invaded" in the early '60's by the Fed. to enforce a Constitutionally guaranteed right of equal protection under the law and equal education no matter the color of one's skin, even if it be "nigger".
Further, the term “democracy” – Hartmann fails to mention that the term, “democracy” as defined in the Fed. Constitution applies only to members of the U.S. Congress in session and not to U.S. citizens residing in D.C. Outside the fed. Zone, the de jure indiv. and independent states are respective republics and not democracies. The mere fact each state has its own constitution makes it a republic and cannot by definition be a democracy.
Otherwise, I tend to agree w/ about 65% of what Hartmann has to offer. I definitely disagree w/ his unconstitutional, inter alia, stance on the 2d Amendment. Having said that, I respect and uphold his, Hartmann, absolute right to denigrate, although unconstitutional and anti-Amerikan, this important right to thwart tyranny especially domestically from their own gov't. officials.
G.H.Walker & Co.and J.P.Morgan Chase; tied for first place prisoners.
Stunning new footage of Tsunami > http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/1416681/71a8dbc9/nieuwe_tsunami_footage.html
Hey > Making progress > I agree, We live in a barbarian world. The working class enrich this country by making billions of dollars only to be taken to the clearners to kill neighbors by the millions putting us billions into debt. Corporatism legal creation with rights and liabilities of a person ~only to violate this country laws because they say so and have the money to do so. This is = The Barbarian Age. Where greed is really showing it face today. ITs so motivated, All it can think of= Take as much as you can steal by giving as little as they can. To engage in warlike pursuits for profits.. (To steal) Just look what's going on in the environment. They would ratter destroy this planet then making it free and its people, Over their need to have everyone in a disharmony, state of slavery just so they can sit up on the thron as a kings dukes. To be King of the jungle and you are our trophy. The Killing of lions tigers buffalo for trophy to their extinction. To be On top of the heap, Piracy Slavery jungle killing. Volating Nature's laws with continue ignorance of jungle law mentality. Have they evolved? They may make you think so! It looks to me Nature is now sending us the bill.
Republicans will never wake up to what the George W. Bush administration did to this country, because 98% of the "news" is owned by right wing corporations and right wing multi-millionaires. And, the GOP will never look back at what their beloved Ronald Reagan did to start this ball rolling, out of control. So, how can we expect any die-hard Republicans to look any further than Fox Noise for their "news"?