Faith requires that we listen with our hearts and live according to God’s will. Faith does not consist in a formal and superficial conforming to the words in the Holt Bible. Faith is deeper and more radical level by putting Jesus’ words in your heart and soul. We are to do the will of God out of love. We are called to make the world a place of liberation for all. We are taught as Catholics that the way to peace is justice, such as economic justice. We are called as ordinary persons to build a society in which everyone has an opportunity for an education, health care, and a decent standard of living. We need to pray for the wisdom to know to be fair to all.
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY NEEDS TO CREATE POLITICAL ADS THAT USE FOX NEWS CLIPS THAT LIE AND DISTORT ALONG WITH AT LEAST 2 FACTUAL CLIPS FROM FACTUAL NEWS SOURCES TO PROVE THAT FOX NEWS LIES AND DISTORTS AND THEN RUN THOSE ADS IN RED STATES
I DID NOT KNOW WHAT THE ALIEN AND SEDITION ACTS WERE
SO I HAD TO GOOGLE THEM
Sedition Act In 1798, the Federalist-controlled Congress passed a series of laws which, on the surface, were designed to control the activities of foreigners in the United States during a time of impending war. Beneath the surface, however, the real intent of these laws was to destroy Jeffersonian Republicanism. The laws, known collectively as the "Alien and Sedition Acts," included:
The Naturalization Act, which extended the residency period from 5 to 14 years for those aliens seeking citizenship; this law was aimed at Irish and French immigrants who were often active in Republican politics
The Alien Act, which allowed the expulsion of aliens deemed dangerous during peacetime
The Alien Enemies Act, which allowed the expulsion or imprisonment of aliens deemed dangerous during wartime. This was never enforced, but it did prompt numerous Frenchmen to return home
The Sedition Act, which provided for fines or imprisonment for individuals who criticized the government, Congress, or president in speech or print.
The Alien Acts were never enforced, but the Sedition Act was. A number of Republican newspaper publishers were convicted under the terms of this law. The Jeffersonians argued quite rightly that the Sedition Act violated the terms of the First Amendment and offered a remedy in the Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions.
While these laws were either repealed or allowed to expire in the next administration, they were significant as rallying points for the Jeffersonians. The heavy-handed Federalist policies worked to the advantage of the Republicans as they prepared for the Election of 1800.
I have shared with you the criteria for a mortal sin. I cannot judge another person but I can offer my perceptual opinion of a person or persons. I believe that Walker, Kasich, and Christie are committing a mortal sin against the Fifth Commandment. We do not actually have to kill a person to commit a mortal sin. If we want or wish harm or hurt toward another person, we have committed a mortal sin. The policies and practices of these three men are harming and/or hurting human beings and so mortal sins are rampant in the states of Wisconsin, Ohio, and New Jersey.
What difference does it make if he is on the ballot or not? If he is our candidate, who cares who is elected. Obama is just as much of a Republican as a Republican who is honest about what party he's with. It is no coincidence that the Koch brothers are coming out of the shadows and bearing down hard on the middle class during Obama's administration. He is much more useful to the billionaires as a Democrat because Liberals like Thom will not criticise him in the same way they would if he admited to being a right-winger. I just heard that the USDA was willing to stand up to Monsanto and their cronies and regulate GMO's. However, Obama heavily pressured the USDA into giving in to Monsanto and deregulating. And, oh, yeah, a Monsanto Vice President is now Obama's agricultural consultant. When are Liberals going to admit they made a horrible mistake? What Obama is doing is clever, deceitful and sickening. If he gets re-elected, God help us.
I have shared this comment with you many times. It is a truism. If we vote for a fascist-Nazi politician, we will have a fascist-Nazi politician in an elective office. The good people of Wisconsin voted for a fascist-Nazi politician in Walker and now they have him in office. The good people of Wisconsin are reaping the endless agony of their votes.
I think the corporations have almost succeeded or we may have reached the tipping point already . If we keep throwing good people out of office and electing the crazzies just to think we are sending a message, it is about over. The Supeme Court is very conservative and disregarding the constitution and making its own laws. The Democratic Party with its voters must throw out the blue dogs and elect true Democratic Representatives. If we can't do that we may have to put up with a few Blue Dogs. If we elect a Republican President and/or Senate in 2012, it will all be over because the Supreme Court will be even more conservative because Justices will retire during those years. The Republicans own the Voting machines and do manipulate them. Massive votes will have to be overwhelming. Get ready for right-wing serfdom.
Whoever this chris hedges is, he has no imagination. Nor foresight. Nor fortitude! And no Courage!
Kill It? If you can't figure it out, kill it. If it takes more than a minute to solve, kill it. If it costs too much, kill it. Etc etc. Killing is easy – building and meeting challenges is a lot harder.
We would never have left our caves and created fire with that type of mentality! The really GOOD things we have today are the results of really, really difficult actions humans have done and solved in the past. Do you honestly believe that the system of Democracy we have today here in America was created overnight? It is the result of 8000 years of human history and experimentation; of the cobbling together of various threads that worked or have not. It is still on-going. It is not perfect.
We don’t need to KILL IT – we need to fix it, make it better – NOT KILL IT!
Palindromedary If you have a "Good" Brain, just imagine what would of happened if McCain/Palin would of been elected instead of Obama? Do you think that we would now be arguing as to how BAD Obama is? Really, just think about it, one second!
Now, that we got that straight, the reason why there was a repug landslide in 2010 was the HUGH amount of money pumped onto the airways to put the fear of GOD into people who are scared to begin with, can't reason worth a hoot, and simply vote repug whenever they hear the word abortion or same-sex marriage!
fox news has an audience of 40-50 Million. Limbaugh has an audience of 20 million. The corporations, Karl Rove, Wall street, and repug political far right have the teabaggers. Billions of $$$ are being PUMPED into this BIG LIE machine! Literally BILLIONS! And it's all LIES! But the fearful folk believe all of it.
Do you think that Obama is a DICTATOR, who can with a snap of his fingers, make things happen? He has to follow the Law and the Constitution! There are forces arrayed against him and the Democrats in Washington, Powerful forces. Like in the TRILLIONS of $$$ if need be. There are 1000s of lobbyists buying politicians and judges. What can Obama do about that if the machinery is NOT in place to change or fix it?
It is NOT the institution that is corrupt – it is the people. We have a Good system; it is the actors in it that are corrupting and corrupted. That is what needs to be fixed. And until that is done, this madness will continue ad naseum and infinitum!
Let's put this "Government Is To Big" nonsense to rest! What the repugs mean is that it is too big for the Democrats and Liberals. What they mean is that When WE, the repugs, take over, it will be WAY MUCH BIGGER as we, the repugs, will have to create a POLICE state, hugh in structure and TOTALITARIAN, so we, the repugs, can control everyone!
DO NOT believe for a moment any of this repug nonsense - it is simple a POWER GRAB.
If you think I'm making this up, witness WISCONSIN! That is what is in store for AMERICA when the repugs gain complete control!
Walker and his repug politicians up there in Wisconsin are the scum of the earth! You’d think you were in RUSSIA or CHINA!
I agree that Thom Hartmann is a great guy who has accomplished a lot, and it is hard to disagree with a lot of what he says....BUT! ;-} I often get a whiff of what seems like a smoke and mirrors ploy to keep the sheep convinced that all they have to do is to continuing to play by the rules of the game (voting) and keep the Democrats (any Democrats..even if they have not yet really acted like real Democrats....uh, like say, Obama) in power so that they can "feel good" but leaving the same power elite in place with even stronger abilities to further drain the middle class and the poor. Thom tries to convince us that a more aggressive uprising, like armed rebellions, would be counter productive and would not serve our ends of ridding ourselves of the anti-democratic forces that have a stranglehold on our nation. His reasoning is, I believe, is that those powers are so well armed that it would be totally futile to move in that direction. Well, our history has shown that it took a lot of civil disobedience which often became very violent...usually coming from the power elite. But we really have nothing left because our legal and judicial system is corrupt...right along with bible-thumping and theocracy-desiring founders of the companies who make the easily hacked and fixed electronic voting machines. We have a Stupreme court packed with a majority of whacko criminals that continue to make a mockery of law and the US as a decent and fair place to live. We have our own Mubarks and Ghadafis that need to be brought down. And when the majority of the downtrodden continue to buy into the rigged and bastardized political infrastructure things will only get worse.
Reelection of Obama and any of the other Democrats who pretend to be on our side but continually works for the other side. Wouldn't it be much better for the revolution to occur when the Republicans are in charge? (as if they have not always been in charge) It greatly pains me to even think of another Republican President....I voted for Obama...but he has screwed us. He is not our friend. Better to have the obvious enemy in front of you than a pretend friend sticking the knife in your back.
Governor Rick Scott did the same thing in Florida. The layoff number is 1500. They like to keep the numbers simple as it's easier when they figure up their final divide of the spoils. Governors are just like big Mayors, aren't they?
Thom does more than his part . Besides his show, he writes numerous books as well and I beleieve runs a business. If only others would do 5 % of that Our country would flourish Heck Millions of gullible Voters do not even bother to check fact from fiction They just follow their FAV news show..as if its factual Mostly its lots of misinformation or just complete nonsense..lots of nasty smears about hating Obama. .2+ yrs of same old crap - fear tactics- smears. They thrive on it keeps them going . They crave their daily fix of Obama hate . Its truly shameful Corp run news media lets them lie - mislead with impunity !
We have very very shallow people running the show today and thats very ugly . Shallow Shallow Shallow gets paid too and forget they are loved . So why should a skelton paid Ooops! I mean care? It seems already yesterday, we are being vaccinated in many ways and in many ways people don't even know about. Our authorities seem to never grow up and listen to the people! Supervisers are mostly blinded, very shallow ,almost skeleton like . (Money and power blind) We are living in a Skeleton and narrowing thinking times) We are being Supervised as if we don't know anything.
My fear is that Thom is nothing more than another part of the Bankrupt Liberal Class that Chris Hedges speaks of. I’m also afraid that I’m beginning to loose interest and faith in what Thom has to say. At the very least, Making a six figure income will put someone outside of the struggle economically. Instead of waxing nostalgically about when he used to protest. Do it. “Don’t talk about it, Be about it.”
Were the recent recall attempts in Pahrump NV just another touchstone on the way to the kind of politics we are seeing now in Wisconsin and other cities currently suffering the slings and arrows of the political poodles supported so well by the greed addict union-busting corporatocracy? (Please read the book The Family by Jeff Sharlet for a unique presentation of the history of Union Busting).
Wisconsin is in the process of generating a recall of the poodles in their state. It appears that they will suffer a similar fate to what is believed happened in Pahrump with their recall of officials suspected of greedily foisting the unwanted Private for-Profit Prison now functioning in Pahrump NV. The Sequoia Voting Machines which can be hacked in 7 minutes or less were used in Pahrump.
Fixed voting machines are clearly the biggest problem facing American health safety and welfare and the whole American political way. Fixed voting machines have been and continue to be suspect as the major force behind generating poodle power, too crooked to fail. Recall supporters need to somehow initiate a reliable voting process before the recall vote. Perhaps a verifiable show of hands on Skype, You Tube? Can we get creative and fool proof on the internet? How about it techs?
If Thom wants to model the behavior that he wants to see in his listeners. Then put your money where your mouth is and show up at a demonstration. "One must be ever vigilant in fighting one's own hypocracy." - Me
"On March 19, the eighth anniversary of the invasion of Iraq, I will join a coalition of U.S. military veterans from Iraq Veterans Against the War, March Forward!, Vietnam Veterans Against the War and Veterans for Peace who will gather in Lafayette Park across from the White House. The veteran-led action will result in numerous arrests, as did a Dec. 16 protest organized by Veterans for Peace. It will seek, because it is all we have left, to use our bodies to challenge the crimes of the state." - Chris Hedges
What's the point of calling to agree with Thom? I'm a long time heavy listener and Thom has changed the way I view the world. For that I am eternally grateful! So, there is no point in calling to chime in on something we all know to be true. I'm tired of pouring over the minutia of our corrupt democracy. Let’s spend most of our time talking about what we need to do about it, so that we can re-claim the Populist outrage! If we don't, the vacuum will be filled by those with less honest agendas (The Tea Party). I would like to know where you disagree with Chris Hedges? His contention is that the only thing we have left is Civil Disobedience. So, that being the case, Let’s devote most of our time to solutions, Please!
So, I finally called after being a heavy listener for many years. I wasn't able to get my point accross and Thom took off on his usual talking points of taking over the Democratic Party from the inside. That was Not My Point! My point is what Chris Hedges is saying and that is: " To Place Faith in Electoral Politics is extremely naive. The system is so far gone that we cannot depend on it to reform itself. Until we have serious campaign finance reform, nothing will change." "It is our task to remember that all of the great correctives in our history never achieved political power, ever. Not The Liberty Party, The suffragettes, The Labor Movement, The Civil Rights Movement." It is incumbent upon us to walk away from established institutions, even if we are alone. We have to reclaim the populism that was decimated. It’s not our job to save a dying system; it’s our job to kill it."
March 6, 2011
Notes from the Church’s Newsletter
Faith requires that we listen with our hearts and live according to God’s will. Faith does not consist in a formal and superficial conforming to the words in the Holt Bible. Faith is deeper and more radical level by putting Jesus’ words in your heart and soul. We are to do the will of God out of love. We are called to make the world a place of liberation for all. We are taught as Catholics that the way to peace is justice, such as economic justice. We are called as ordinary persons to build a society in which everyone has an opportunity for an education, health care, and a decent standard of living. We need to pray for the wisdom to know to be fair to all.
@jkh6148, thank you for that great idea!
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY NEEDS TO CREATE POLITICAL ADS THAT USE FOX NEWS CLIPS THAT LIE AND DISTORT ALONG WITH AT LEAST 2 FACTUAL CLIPS FROM FACTUAL NEWS SOURCES TO PROVE THAT FOX NEWS LIES AND DISTORTS AND THEN RUN THOSE ADS IN RED STATES
I DID NOT KNOW WHAT THE ALIEN AND SEDITION ACTS WERE
SO I HAD TO GOOGLE THEM
Sedition Act In 1798, the Federalist-controlled Congress passed a series of laws which, on the surface, were designed to control the activities of foreigners in the United States during a time of impending war. Beneath the surface, however, the real intent of these laws was to destroy Jeffersonian Republicanism. The laws, known collectively as the "Alien and Sedition Acts," included:
The Alien Acts were never enforced, but the Sedition Act was. A number of Republican newspaper publishers were convicted under the terms of this law. The Jeffersonians argued quite rightly that the Sedition Act violated the terms of the First Amendment and offered a remedy in the Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions.
While these laws were either repealed or allowed to expire in the next administration, they were significant as rallying points for the Jeffersonians. The heavy-handed Federalist policies worked to the advantage of the Republicans as they prepared for the Election of 1800.
http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h463.html
March 5, 2011
I have shared with you the criteria for a mortal sin. I cannot judge another person but I can offer my perceptual opinion of a person or persons. I believe that Walker, Kasich, and Christie are committing a mortal sin against the Fifth Commandment. We do not actually have to kill a person to commit a mortal sin. If we want or wish harm or hurt toward another person, we have committed a mortal sin. The policies and practices of these three men are harming and/or hurting human beings and so mortal sins are rampant in the states of Wisconsin, Ohio, and New Jersey.
What difference does it make if he is on the ballot or not? If he is our candidate, who cares who is elected. Obama is just as much of a Republican as a Republican who is honest about what party he's with. It is no coincidence that the Koch brothers are coming out of the shadows and bearing down hard on the middle class during Obama's administration. He is much more useful to the billionaires as a Democrat because Liberals like Thom will not criticise him in the same way they would if he admited to being a right-winger. I just heard that the USDA was willing to stand up to Monsanto and their cronies and regulate GMO's. However, Obama heavily pressured the USDA into giving in to Monsanto and deregulating. And, oh, yeah, a Monsanto Vice President is now Obama's agricultural consultant. When are Liberals going to admit they made a horrible mistake? What Obama is doing is clever, deceitful and sickening. If he gets re-elected, God help us.
Here is the perfect example of America!!!
As Ben Franklin said; "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb discussing what's for dinner?"
The shocking truth about the United States of Mortal Sin!!!
http://www.opednews.com/articles/People-v-U-S-Govt-by-David-Swanson-110304-344.html
Who are we as a people!
http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Second-American-Civil-by-Robert-Weitzel-110302-258.html
A divided nation will collapse!
http://www.opednews.com/articles/America-Is-Not-A-Democracy-by-willy-scanlon-110301-377.html
We are not a democracy!
March 5, 2011
PEOPLE GET WHAT THEY DESERVE!!!
I have shared this comment with you many times. It is a truism. If we vote for a fascist-Nazi politician, we will have a fascist-Nazi politician in an elective office. The good people of Wisconsin voted for a fascist-Nazi politician in Walker and now they have him in office. The good people of Wisconsin are reaping the endless agony of their votes.
I think the corporations have almost succeeded or we may have reached the tipping point already . If we keep throwing good people out of office and electing the crazzies just to think we are sending a message, it is about over. The Supeme Court is very conservative and disregarding the constitution and making its own laws. The Democratic Party with its voters must throw out the blue dogs and elect true Democratic Representatives. If we can't do that we may have to put up with a few Blue Dogs. If we elect a Republican President and/or Senate in 2012, it will all be over because the Supreme Court will be even more conservative because Justices will retire during those years. The Republicans own the Voting machines and do manipulate them. Massive votes will have to be overwhelming. Get ready for right-wing serfdom.
The Question here was,
"So when is Scott Walker planning to reinstate the Alien and Sedition Acts? "
XXXXX
Whoever this chris hedges is, he has no imagination. Nor foresight. Nor fortitude! And no Courage!
Kill It? If you can't figure it out, kill it. If it takes more than a minute to solve, kill it. If it costs too much, kill it. Etc etc. Killing is easy – building and meeting challenges is a lot harder.
We would never have left our caves and created fire with that type of mentality! The really GOOD things we have today are the results of really, really difficult actions humans have done and solved in the past. Do you honestly believe that the system of Democracy we have today here in America was created overnight? It is the result of 8000 years of human history and experimentation; of the cobbling together of various threads that worked or have not. It is still on-going. It is not perfect.
We don’t need to KILL IT – we need to fix it, make it better – NOT KILL IT!
Palindromedary If you have a "Good" Brain, just imagine what would of happened if McCain/Palin would of been elected instead of Obama? Do you think that we would now be arguing as to how BAD Obama is? Really, just think about it, one second!
Now, that we got that straight, the reason why there was a repug landslide in 2010 was the HUGH amount of money pumped onto the airways to put the fear of GOD into people who are scared to begin with, can't reason worth a hoot, and simply vote repug whenever they hear the word abortion or same-sex marriage!
fox news has an audience of 40-50 Million. Limbaugh has an audience of 20 million. The corporations, Karl Rove, Wall street, and repug political far right have the teabaggers. Billions of $$$ are being PUMPED into this BIG LIE machine! Literally BILLIONS! And it's all LIES! But the fearful folk believe all of it.
Do you think that Obama is a DICTATOR, who can with a snap of his fingers, make things happen? He has to follow the Law and the Constitution! There are forces arrayed against him and the Democrats in Washington, Powerful forces. Like in the TRILLIONS of $$$ if need be. There are 1000s of lobbyists buying politicians and judges. What can Obama do about that if the machinery is NOT in place to change or fix it?
It is NOT the institution that is corrupt – it is the people. We have a Good system; it is the actors in it that are corrupting and corrupted. That is what needs to be fixed. And until that is done, this madness will continue ad naseum and infinitum!
Let's put this "Government Is To Big" nonsense to rest! What the repugs mean is that it is too big for the Democrats and Liberals. What they mean is that When WE, the repugs, take over, it will be WAY MUCH BIGGER as we, the repugs, will have to create a POLICE state, hugh in structure and TOTALITARIAN, so we, the repugs, can control everyone!
DO NOT believe for a moment any of this repug nonsense - it is simple a POWER GRAB.
If you think I'm making this up, witness WISCONSIN! That is what is in store for AMERICA when the repugs gain complete control!
Walker and his repug politicians up there in Wisconsin are the scum of the earth! You’d think you were in RUSSIA or CHINA!
I agree that Thom Hartmann is a great guy who has accomplished a lot, and it is hard to disagree with a lot of what he says....BUT! ;-} I often get a whiff of what seems like a smoke and mirrors ploy to keep the sheep convinced that all they have to do is to continuing to play by the rules of the game (voting) and keep the Democrats (any Democrats..even if they have not yet really acted like real Democrats....uh, like say, Obama) in power so that they can "feel good" but leaving the same power elite in place with even stronger abilities to further drain the middle class and the poor. Thom tries to convince us that a more aggressive uprising, like armed rebellions, would be counter productive and would not serve our ends of ridding ourselves of the anti-democratic forces that have a stranglehold on our nation. His reasoning is, I believe, is that those powers are so well armed that it would be totally futile to move in that direction. Well, our history has shown that it took a lot of civil disobedience which often became very violent...usually coming from the power elite. But we really have nothing left because our legal and judicial system is corrupt...right along with bible-thumping and theocracy-desiring founders of the companies who make the easily hacked and fixed electronic voting machines. We have a Stupreme court packed with a majority of whacko criminals that continue to make a mockery of law and the US as a decent and fair place to live. We have our own Mubarks and Ghadafis that need to be brought down. And when the majority of the downtrodden continue to buy into the rigged and bastardized political infrastructure things will only get worse.
Reelection of Obama and any of the other Democrats who pretend to be on our side but continually works for the other side. Wouldn't it be much better for the revolution to occur when the Republicans are in charge? (as if they have not always been in charge) It greatly pains me to even think of another Republican President....I voted for Obama...but he has screwed us. He is not our friend. Better to have the obvious enemy in front of you than a pretend friend sticking the knife in your back.
I tend to agree a lot with Chris Hedges.
Governor Rick Scott did the same thing in Florida. The layoff number is 1500. They like to keep the numbers simple as it's easier when they figure up their final divide of the spoils. Governors are just like big Mayors, aren't they?
Thom does more than his part . Besides his show, he writes numerous books as well and I beleieve runs a business. If only others would do 5 % of that Our country would flourish Heck Millions of gullible Voters do not even bother to check fact from fiction They just follow their FAV news show..as if its factual Mostly its lots of misinformation or just complete nonsense..lots of nasty smears about hating Obama. .2+ yrs of same old crap - fear tactics- smears. They thrive on it keeps them going . They crave their daily fix of Obama hate . Its truly shameful Corp run news media lets them lie - mislead with impunity !
We have very very shallow people running the show today and thats very ugly . Shallow Shallow Shallow gets paid too and forget they are loved . So why should a skelton paid Ooops! I mean care? It seems already yesterday, we are being vaccinated in many ways and in many ways people don't even know about. Our authorities seem to never grow up and listen to the people! Supervisers are mostly blinded, very shallow ,almost skeleton like . (Money and power blind) We are living in a Skeleton and narrowing thinking times) We are being Supervised as if we don't know anything.
My fear is that Thom is nothing more than another part of the Bankrupt Liberal Class that Chris Hedges speaks of. I’m also afraid that I’m beginning to loose interest and faith in what Thom has to say. At the very least, Making a six figure income will put someone outside of the struggle economically. Instead of waxing nostalgically about when he used to protest. Do it. “Don’t talk about it, Be about it.”
Were the recent recall attempts in Pahrump NV just another touchstone on the way to the kind of politics we are seeing now in Wisconsin and other cities currently suffering the slings and arrows of the political poodles supported so well by the greed addict union-busting corporatocracy? (Please read the book The Family by Jeff Sharlet for a unique presentation of the history of Union Busting).
Wisconsin is in the process of generating a recall of the poodles in their state. It appears that they will suffer a similar fate to what is believed happened in Pahrump with their recall of officials suspected of greedily foisting the unwanted Private for-Profit Prison now functioning in Pahrump NV. The Sequoia Voting Machines which can be hacked in 7 minutes or less were used in Pahrump.
Fixed voting machines are clearly the biggest problem facing American health safety and welfare and the whole American political way. Fixed voting machines have been and continue to be suspect as the major force behind generating poodle power, too crooked to fail. Recall supporters need to somehow initiate a reliable voting process before the recall vote. Perhaps a verifiable show of hands on Skype, You Tube? Can we get creative and fool proof on the internet? How about it techs?
For America-busting voting machine info: http://www.thomhartmann.com/blog/2010/10/daily-topics-friday-october-15th-2010
If Thom wants to model the behavior that he wants to see in his listeners. Then put your money where your mouth is and show up at a demonstration. "One must be ever vigilant in fighting one's own hypocracy." - Me
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/no_other_way_out_20110228/
"On March 19, the eighth anniversary of the invasion of Iraq, I will join a coalition of U.S. military veterans from Iraq Veterans Against the War, March Forward!, Vietnam Veterans Against the War and Veterans for Peace who will gather in Lafayette Park across from the White House. The veteran-led action will result in numerous arrests, as did a Dec. 16 protest organized by Veterans for Peace. It will seek, because it is all we have left, to use our bodies to challenge the crimes of the state." - Chris Hedges
What's the point of calling to agree with Thom? I'm a long time heavy listener and Thom has changed the way I view the world. For that I am eternally grateful! So, there is no point in calling to chime in on something we all know to be true. I'm tired of pouring over the minutia of our corrupt democracy. Let’s spend most of our time talking about what we need to do about it, so that we can re-claim the Populist outrage! If we don't, the vacuum will be filled by those with less honest agendas (The Tea Party).
I would like to know where you disagree with Chris Hedges? His contention is that the only thing we have left is Civil Disobedience. So, that being the case, Let’s devote most of our time to solutions, Please!
http://www.booktv.org/Program/12062/Death+of+the+Liberal+Class.aspx
Instead of pushing back against the Right, Push Left!
So, I finally called after being a heavy listener for many years. I wasn't able to get my point accross and Thom took off on his usual talking points of taking over the Democratic Party from the inside. That was Not My Point! My point is what Chris Hedges is saying and that is: " To Place Faith in Electoral Politics is extremely naive. The system is so far gone that we cannot depend on it to reform itself. Until we have serious campaign finance reform, nothing will change."
"It is our task to remember that all of the great correctives in our history never achieved political power, ever. Not The Liberty Party, The suffragettes, The Labor Movement, The Civil Rights Movement."
It is incumbent upon us to walk away from established institutions, even if we are alone. We have to reclaim the populism that was decimated. It’s not our job to save a dying system; it’s our job to kill it."
- Chris Hedges
I've managed to find out what 7 of the states are: Connecticut, Georgia, Missouri, Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, and Arizona.
It Wasn't the greatness of FDR, it was the greatness of the Movements at the time that forced dramatic changes. You know that! So, why the disconnect?