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Back in December Raw Story posted an interesting article about the Conservatives having a larger 'fear center' in their brain. It's called amygdalas (uh-mig-duh-luh). They also have a smaller anterior cingulate than the liberals, it's the part of the brain that is responsible for optimism and courage.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/conservatives-fear-center-brain/
Looks like when I stated that the gop is brain damaged, I wasn't making a joke.
There are so many ways to challenge any legislation like this. It might be a speed bump on the way to 2012, but I'm sure there will be injunctions filed. The adoption issue alone should be enough to block this.
It's all to frickin too much isn't it? When our news networks have been taken over by corporate brain thought, and the poor Morons who believe what the news spew is fact, we're going to splinter big time... hey I know let's couple poor Charlie Sheen and Randy Quaid to take up more press, so Wisconsin, Ohio and the rest of our country is taken over by big biz... while the country snoozes and looses.
Adopted people, in most states, are not allowed access to their original birth certificates. Those records are sealed. So, according to this proposed legislation, adopted people would be prohibited from running for president. Yeah, that sounds fair.
President Obama probably doesn't have the original of his birth certificate, but Hawaii's Dept. of Health does and has responded to this cynical query hundreds of time. Not only is his birth certificate on file, but a newspaper article in a Hawaiian newspaper announcing his birth has been republished.
This is just, as Thom says, a cynical distraction.
Actually, yes and no. I have the original from the hospital, with my footprints and my mother's fingerprints. I had to get a photostatic copy of the original official certificate from the state of Ohio back in the mid '70s so I could join the military, and still have that one, as well.
The Right Wing my try to pit us against each other, but people are waking up and the RW will not succeed.
As long as there are politicians able to even consider seriously doing this, they obviously believe they have a chance to continue to confuse the average american citizen, who, let's face it. after Reagan has had an education lower than 38 countries in the world and is incapable to think for itself.
The fact that there is no end to this blatant evidence of racism illustrates my point.
This is just sad. The racism is extends beyond the intended victim, the president, to
those of us who are not racists. As a 62 year old veteran I find it hard to believe we have regressed
so significantly as a society since the 70's.
I hope so. But you never know with Fox spreading all the lies about Obama. I'm 66 years old and for the first time in my life I'm worried about where the Country is going. If the people in this country don't wake up we are headed for distaster.
We are currently getting passport cards because I have to get a hysterectomy in Mexico (since I'm uninsurable in the US - self-employed and a pre-existing condition).
I have an original birth certificate for myself - I've had it for close to thirty years and just kept it filed away in a box with all my other Important Stuff. My husband had to send away for his. The difference in thirty years' worth of birth certificate-producing is amazing. Mine has tons and tons of information - my moment of entry into this once-glorious nation, my delivery doctor's name, my father's occupation, my mother's maiden name, my length and weight, etc.
My husband's copy goes like this - name, DOB, mother's name, father's name, county recorded. PERIOD. I suppose he shan't be able to run for President, either.
But I could. ;)
NO Obama will be on ballot in ALL states GOP liars-birthres-Kenyan BS is baaack That proves GOP is desperate Ruuning out ofl ies-smears about Obama. If GOP voters are that dumb- and gullible they deserve to be duped again. From Reaganomics 1980 - Bush Cheney- Goldman Fed boys 2008 global crash TARP GOP mission has been to give more& more tax cuts, lie- smear- wage long wars for profits, use fear to manipulate us - to bust unions, crush Obama- at ANY cost. God voters are so ill informed- unable to think logically And thats being kind
My husband works for the State of NM and does work with a National Lab that required him to have a pretty high level of security clearance. The FBI did his background check and they talked to many people, found out everywhere he had ever lived and did a pretty extensive search on him. Do you really think that a person wanting to be the President of the United States wouldn't need a background check? I'm guessing the president has the highest security level of anyone in the US. Do you really think that during this check the FBI or whoever wouldn't have found out if he was not indeed born in the US? Do you really think just anyone can get on the ballot? He probably had to have the same or similar background check done to run for the Senate. Do we really think that the FBI would just forget to find this out? I can deal with a thinly disguised reason for not wanting him on the ballot, but what I can’t tolerate is letting this silliness continue. The background check would have already uncovered this; it didn’t; get over it.
Your guest on the radio, Andy Martin, backtracked all over the place. It was interesting to me that he said as one of the last things in this interview that you, Thom are a natural born citizen because both your parents were born in the USA. That does not make you more of a natural born citizen than any other person born in the USA, whether or not their parents were born here. He needs to do more to educate himself on this if he's going to talk about it.
I voted yes, but I don't actually have the original. The original is located in the courthouse of the County in MN where I was born. When I needed it I sent a request to the courthouse and they sent me a copy of it. I still have this copy. It is not the original. It is my understanding the original never leaves the courthouse. I could be wrong. It's happened before.LOL
Jim
I feel compelled to comment on the original birth certificate question. First of all, no my original birth certificate, as it was, was lost many years ago, in fact before I was 5 years old. When my mother got a certified copy, when I was a child, they gave her one that had the wrong brithdate on it (I was born after midnight and they had already made it out for April 4 as the next day was Easter and they all wanted to go home. This was in 1953. When she went to the orginal court house and said they had the wrong day, I was really born on Easter Sunday, April 5, 1953. They gave her a corrected Birth Certificate. It now (the certified copy) says April 4 which has an / through it and then a 5, 1953. I am in my 50's and have had to explain this birth certificate every time I'm asked for it, such as when I got my latest passport. So people, cut President Obama a break. If they have a certified copy, which they do, he is for sure a citizen. Are you going to kick us all out who don't have originals or what about those of us whose originals were WRONG?? Does this make me not a citizen? I don't think so.
I have myoriginal birth certificate that was given to my mother when she left the hospital in Chicago, Illinois. It was a certified copy of the microfiche (black page, white lettering) It is 54 years old. I just used it to get a passport. the State Department sent me the original back after they copied it.
Of course, I would not vote for Scott Walker. I didn't vote for him in the first place. And I have signed up in several places to work for a recall of Walker and Republican state senators.
Even more importantly, I am organizing people to campaign for JoAnne Kloppenburg for Wisconsin Supreme Court in the April 5 election. David Prosser, the conservative incumbent, says voting for him would keep a conservative majority on our state high court, AND he sees his role as a justice to "complement" the efforts of Walker and the Republican-controlled state legislature. Hey, Prosser?? What about the notion in our state and federal Constitutions about checks and balances? So all you Wisconsinites, let's get out the vote on April 5 for JoAnne Kloppenburg!
Funny, the birthers never had a problem with a candidate having BOTH parents born outside the U.S., as was the case with Michael Dukakis.
Donning my tin foil hat
As is so often the case, follow the money.
My wife was born in Maryland, I was born in D.C., and our kids were born in Washington State. As I've collected up "official" copies of our birth certificates from the various state agencies, while each will accept a paper request, if you want to request it online one is directed to the vitalchek.com
I suspect Vital Check charges the state a fee to provide this service, and they do charge an additional fee outright when one requests a birth certificate or other document.
Could it be this whole Birther non-sense is partially motivated by higher profits for Vital Check? If there's a new "red scare", then more people who've long since lost their original birth certificate will get a new copy.
I guess your screwed if you are adopted and cannot confirm your birth parents. How long before this becomes a requirement to vote?
Obama 2012 - Death by a thousand cuts.
The cons have figured out one narative is required to turn the voter against Obama. All they have to do is keep repeating numerous off-the-wall assertions. As long as enough voters latch onto each, then they can create a majority.
Gods, guns and gays have served them well but are waining. Obama's past opens enough questions to give them more fodder.
Seven Presidents with at least one Foreign born parent:
Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) is the only president born of two immigrants, both Irish. Presidents with one immigrant parent are Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809), whose mother was born in England, James Buchanan (1857-1861) and Chester Arthur (1881-1885), both of whom had Irish fathers, and Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921) and Herbert Hoover (1929-1933), whose mothers were born respectively in England and Canada.
http://community.myvoa.com/_The-Seventh-US-President-with-a-Foreign-Born...
The County Registrars Office in New Brighton, PA burned down decades ago . . . And given the bullsh** "vault copy" birther stupidity just espoused by Mr. Martin, my father and I apparently do not exist.
I do still have my original from 1958. It is so faded you can barely read it. I needed to send away for a passport so I sent away to Ohio for a copy. They sent me a Certifcate of Live Birth which was different. So I have one of each. I got the passport using the original that is barely readable.