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@mstaggerlee: The talking head on the un-left impacted the perception that President Obama was not a mediocre, just-right-of-the-center-of-road pro-corporatist shill . . . BUT short attention spans and desperation and fear fatigue really helped.
Where do you find all these "Conservatives?" This guy Knight is as much of a blockhead as Grover Norquist!
If corporations produce so much wealth, why are the people of Nigeria trying to throw BP out? Why are the Boiivians suing Chevron? Why can't coal companies protect their miners? Why do they all have to ship jobs overseas? Because they produce so much wealth?
This oil spill in the Gulf is produced by a corporation--is that wealth?
I have read that statistically Christians cheat and abuse their spouses at the same rate as non-Christians. Regarding the hypocrisy; for the fundamentalist, it seems to be a case of overcompensating for their own character flaws.
@Drichards: what is a "deft ear"? one that works on either side of the head?
@n*chz: BINGO!
@DRichards regarding “deft ear to liberals & progressives; is that we really are a tiny minority?”
No we are a solid majority of about 60% . . . We just have 25% or less of the capital . . .
Yeah, the mainstream Democrats are deaf to cries from the left.
Wow! Great bridge Thom! You reached consensus on some vital issues. But
Robert still doesnt get that We are the People- that entire side of that aisle doesn't get this.
great, this ist guy is for forced marriage- yeah....that works.
The "simple solution" crowd is trying to sell socialism etc. as totalitarianism. People tend to believe there is a connection.
Mr Knght hides his hypocrisy behind his God.
@DRichards regarding "So why aren't the liberals yelling just as loud as when Bush was in office? Is it the same blind allegiance to a political party?":
We are. It just doesn’t make the news.
@harry re: #32 -
EXACTLY! Obama was certainly not MY first choice. Kuchinich was, even though I knew that his candidacy was essentially a pipe dream. When Dennis was forced out of the race, I supported John Edwards, even though Randi Rhodes had been saying all along "I know stuff about him that I can't talk about, so trust me, he has no chance."
Eventually, the Blue choices were reduced to Obama & Hillary - and only then did I get on board with Obama.
@MAXROT: No, I got the point. This is a common retort of Thom’s when a knee-jerk liberal labels President Obama as Bush-lite. The truth is that President Obama is habitually to the right of the great triangler . . . Actually, like a heartbeat to the right of Clinton.
I recognize that progressive/liberal folk were desperate for a miracle after a near decade of the Bush-Cheney hooligans. I realize that folk saw ‘not Bush’ and thought that Obama did not have a snide for plutocrat campaign dollars . . . BUT I remember being shouted down on this site for noting that Obama’s pantsuit has more green stains on its knees than HRC’s did.
The Bush era wiped a hunk of history and what it means to be American from our populous. Eisenhower and Nixon were largely to the left of Obama.
The most important thing right now is to STOP THIS OIL SPILL ASAP! This is a serious problem for the whole world, not just America.
If I were Obama I would assemble a team of the top experts from AROUND THE WORLD. We need the best of the best from governments and private industry--the best minds and the best equipment. We have to immediately put a tourniquet on this thing before Revelation 16:3 comes true! We can sort out who to blame and prosecute when the bleeding has stopped.
Revelation 16:3 (Amplified Bible)
The second [angel] emptied his bowl (of God's wrath) into the sea, and it turned into blood like that of a corpse [thick, corrupt, ill-smelling, and disgusting], and every living thing that was in the sea perished.
Hopi Prophecy,
"This is the Seventh Sign: You will hear of the sea turning black, and many living things dying because of it."
Tampa Bay readied for evacution!
Thom,
While listening to your show, I saw an article that stated Tampa Bay FL is being prepared for evacuations in case toxic fumes from the oil burnoff heads east.
I watched the 60 minute piece on the oil rig disaster, BP cared more about profits than safety. It is corporate terrorism, with the blessing of the Bush Administration, and lack of insight by the Obama Administration.
Also I recently registered with the Green Party in CA. Progressive can remain Independant, but why continue to vote for the two headed monster?
Ken in Torrance CA.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...
It's so very, very hard to face the facts.
We're where the Reagan revolution was in the mid-70's, at the 'silent majority' stage.
We voted for Obama cause he was better than McCain. that's it.
@radlof/maxnels, re: #'s 12 & 15 - Do you guys actually wonder why the public thought they were getting a Progressive when they voted for Obama? Were either of you actually in the USA in 2008? Didja turn a TV on during the election? See if this phrase elicits some deep memory -
"Barack Obama represents the FAR LEFT of the Democrat Party!"
We heard it from Rush, from Hannity, from Beck (who wasn't as big a player back then), from Buchannan, from Savage, from Drudge, from every friggin' pundit on the right. In fact, despite all evidence, all of them STILL say it! So I do NOT wonder why people think that way - if EVERYBODY says it, it MUST be true!
... right?
Playing chess, playing chicken... it's all a game to make one think there really is a difference.
Peevish austerity and poverty does not precede prosperity; they precede dearth.
@DRichards, progressives are only a tiny minority in the administration and on Wall Street, the only voices the White House listens to.
American progressives are not in the minority, but we're not aggressive enough yet (and we're pretty aggressive).
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Dr. Hartmann has a pet theory that Obama is playing some form of 3-dimensional chess. More plausibly, the Republicans are playing chicken. The Democrats, are also playing chicken; they just aren't playing to win.
Perhaps the reason Obama and the democrats turns a deft ear to liberals & progressives; is that we really are a tiny minority?