@mstaggerlee, here's an excellent example of what I mean by comment #31. On Friday the info came out that well the oil coming out is about 25,000 barrels a day, and as it had been from the get go. So now what's all over the news, they got an insertion tube sucking up 1,000 barrels a day...yay!!! (Please don't bother doing the math you'll be able to figure easily that there's still at least 24,000 barrels a day spewing forth). Also Oil really hasn't been washing on shore, because of the use of dispersants, never mind that the dispersants are highly toxic and the underwater oil is killing mass amounts of sea life.
As I see it, you're just going one step further than the story. I know, I know you're just coming to natural conclusions, but you're not supposed to think, thinking leads to depression.
I recall that it is illegal for the US government to supply weapons to governments that use the weapons against their own people. The solution was to send the weapons to Israel, and have Israel send them to Indonesia or wherever.
Except, of course, for those first responders, and the "search and recovery" volunteers, who are now dying of breathing disorders, and fighting for both their insurance benefits and their lives.
I'm still wondering what happened to all that toxic dirt in New Orleans? I haven't heard about it being cleaned up, nor even any news about if its still there, and what levels of toxicity is it?
@harry, I think the rights' biggest issue with the Miss America winner is that she's totally blowing their minds not wearing a veil. Its totally ruining their stereotype of Muslim women.
I saw a few brief parts of miss usa show ;) I think a lot of people felt she was the most beautiful like I did. 'Course all i really care about are breasts.
It would never make up for the real damage, but in any Energy Bill, there should be a separate category and tax or penalty for wasted energy or carbon.
There should be costs to capture and sell oil and gas, but an obscenity like this, even in the carbon release to the environment, should carry a proportionally high penalty.
When you put out your garbage in some cities, you pay a fee per bag. If you throw it out your car window, you pay a lot more for a littering ticket because the action was unacceptable. Not many people would look at littering fines as just a cost of disposal. These BP ('bastard people') pirates shouldn't be able to just count this as a cost of doing business. It should be the very high cost of screwing up.
Drilling off shore is more expensive that Middle East oil and the oil cartels use off-shore drilling to drive up the cost of oil to inflate the price as the oil taken from USAian sources is not retained for the sole use of America but bought and sold on the international commodity markets.
This whole happy horse hockey is WAY more insidious than most folk think.
Horowitz displays a hyper-sociopathic mentality. If I had to venture a guess I would guess that xenophobia and active sociopathic destruction of republican-democracies are what he eats with his Wheaties every farging morning. Of course, he embraces authoritarianism. Of course, he lacks the ability to understand basic agreed upon definitions of words and can make no pretense to communicate without mindless jingoistic tripe.
I understand the concept of modeling communication with wing-nuts . . . But the dude on the other side of the conversation must display even a hint of a ghost of a hope of a chance of ‘mens rea’. Please don’t waste our time with Horowitz, again.
If the fix is in here, the fix is in to keep Bill Halter out of the Senate. This is a sad legislative practice where so-called moderates, like Blanche Lincoln, put in weak progressive amendments with a plan to trade them away later, just to be able to say they voted for some reform when they are up for election. I am sure the Democratic leadership had their choice of financial reform proposals and they chose Lincoln of all people. Very much like all the Senate healthcare machination where the reform was consistently weakened and the benefits to the corporations grew all through the process. It's more like constant re-runs of the same Itchy and Scratchy cartoon than any kind of professional theater, unless the villians always win in kabuki theater.
Irony.. That's what a blacksmith does, Right?
Rick
@DRichards... can you explain this concept you call... sarcasm? I'm not sure I get it ;-)
N
Texas is an Oilygarchy ;-)
So, now they are teaching about the USA victory at the Alamo?
Rick
mstaggerlee
Re: and everyone is fine...
I was being sarcastic ;)
For many corporations, it's all about maximizing the CEO's self centeredness, no matter the cost.
@mstaggerlee, here's an excellent example of what I mean by comment #31. On Friday the info came out that well the oil coming out is about 25,000 barrels a day, and as it had been from the get go. So now what's all over the news, they got an insertion tube sucking up 1,000 barrels a day...yay!!! (Please don't bother doing the math you'll be able to figure easily that there's still at least 24,000 barrels a day spewing forth). Also Oil really hasn't been washing on shore, because of the use of dispersants, never mind that the dispersants are highly toxic and the underwater oil is killing mass amounts of sea life.
As I see it, you're just going one step further than the story. I know, I know you're just coming to natural conclusions, but you're not supposed to think, thinking leads to depression.
N
I recall that it is illegal for the US government to supply weapons to governments that use the weapons against their own people. The solution was to send the weapons to Israel, and have Israel send them to Indonesia or wherever.
Such a deal!
Yeah, President Perry will work to reverse the penalties.
Keep remembering how the Exxon Valdez settlements went; 20 years then thrown out / cut down by Bush's Supreme Board of Directors..
Rick
@mstaggerlee, well it'll all be fine once they just die. You really just need to adjust to the corporate point of view, then everything is bliss.
N
@DRichards -
Except, of course, for those first responders, and the "search and recovery" volunteers, who are now dying of breathing disorders, and fighting for both their insurance benefits and their lives.
I'm still wondering what happened to all that toxic dirt in New Orleans? I haven't heard about it being cleaned up, nor even any news about if its still there, and what levels of toxicity is it?
At What Cost? BP Spill Responders Told to Forgo Precautionary Health Measures in Cleanup
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/riki-ott/at-what-cost-bp-spill-res_b_57878...
Hey, we didn't need Precautionary Health Measures for the 911 cleanup... and everyone is fine...
I woulda voted for her even with a veil. ;)
@harry, I think the rights' biggest issue with the Miss America winner is that she's totally blowing their minds not wearing a veil. Its totally ruining their stereotype of Muslim women.
N
@Rick, yes, lets give Arizona back... to Mexico, then we'll see who gets kicked out for being illegal... oh how deliciously ironic that would be.
N
I saw a few brief parts of miss usa show ;) I think a lot of people felt she was the most beautiful like I did. 'Course all i really care about are breasts.
I hope radicals don't retaliate against Miss USA.
Maybe give Arizona back too.. ;-)
Rick
Maybe Texas should be allowed to secede.
It would never make up for the real damage, but in any Energy Bill, there should be a separate category and tax or penalty for wasted energy or carbon.
There should be costs to capture and sell oil and gas, but an obscenity like this, even in the carbon release to the environment, should carry a proportionally high penalty.
When you put out your garbage in some cities, you pay a fee per bag. If you throw it out your car window, you pay a lot more for a littering ticket because the action was unacceptable. Not many people would look at littering fines as just a cost of disposal. These BP ('bastard people') pirates shouldn't be able to just count this as a cost of doing business. It should be the very high cost of screwing up.
Rick
Drilling off shore is more expensive that Middle East oil and the oil cartels use off-shore drilling to drive up the cost of oil to inflate the price as the oil taken from USAian sources is not retained for the sole use of America but bought and sold on the international commodity markets.
This whole happy horse hockey is WAY more insidious than most folk think.
Horowitz displays a hyper-sociopathic mentality. If I had to venture a guess I would guess that xenophobia and active sociopathic destruction of republican-democracies are what he eats with his Wheaties every farging morning. Of course, he embraces authoritarianism. Of course, he lacks the ability to understand basic agreed upon definitions of words and can make no pretense to communicate without mindless jingoistic tripe.
I understand the concept of modeling communication with wing-nuts . . . But the dude on the other side of the conversation must display even a hint of a ghost of a hope of a chance of ‘mens rea’. Please don’t waste our time with Horowitz, again.
If the fix is in here, the fix is in to keep Bill Halter out of the Senate. This is a sad legislative practice where so-called moderates, like Blanche Lincoln, put in weak progressive amendments with a plan to trade them away later, just to be able to say they voted for some reform when they are up for election. I am sure the Democratic leadership had their choice of financial reform proposals and they chose Lincoln of all people. Very much like all the Senate healthcare machination where the reform was consistently weakened and the benefits to the corporations grew all through the process. It's more like constant re-runs of the same Itchy and Scratchy cartoon than any kind of professional theater, unless the villians always win in kabuki theater.
Ford didn't go public until 1957. I'd guess that a family owned business would have its members as shareholders as far as the 1920s decision.
Yeah! sunlight might hit the ground!