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@NelsNelsen: Only by the election process. The Fed law affords NO opportunity to recall and recall and term limits in California for Federal offices was overturned by the court system.
On Copenhagen:
Clinton's Copenhagen Announcement 'Was Naked Blackmail'
by Naomi Klein
http://www.commondreams.org/further/2009/12/17-0
@ DDay crossing fingers, (toes, arms etc... too).
Just say no Joe!
@molmsted: Yep, that’s part of the PATRIOT Acts I & II . . .
@ Richard
Perhaps Ben found out his mother had wanted to abort him in retrospect?
@ Nels
I have heard that people in Connecticut are in fact beginning to organize along those lines. I believe they need X number of petition signatures to get the thing rolling. Cross your fingers!
I have been asking for months . . . What does abortion mean to Senator Ben Nelson (D-Corporate America)?
@ Quark & Sugarchai
I think Bernie looks sexy when he's mad. He kinda had a Ludwig von Drake thing going on with his hair too. Perhaps it was his reddened face which made you concerned? People who live in cold states like Vermont & Minnesota turn red easier.
@DDay well it would be nice if the people of Connecticut started heading in that direction. I wonder how quickly a Senator would back down as soon as his constituents began speaking of such options and collecting signatures.
I called both Ron Wyden and Jeff Merkley this morning and told them that if legislation is going to be passed without a public option or Medicare buy in, they should strip out the mandate that uninsured HAVE to buy insurance from the insurance cartels.
@ Nels Nelsen
That depends on individual State law. The U.S. Constitution provides each state with the responsibility to determine election rules, recounts, and recall statutes for their state's U.S. senators. I believe Connecticut does have recall provisions; if that is where you are headed.
I agree with Thom that a revolution may be the eventual result, however, as well intentioned as rebels may be, the results are rarely even close to the goals they set.
Sugarchai,
Re: "I saw the clip of Bernie Sanders in the Senate yesterday. I sure hope his blood pressure medicine is working!"
I, too, have been thinking that Bernie doesn't look well.
Can senators and congressmen be recalled?
I wrote to Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell this morning and informed them both that after a lifetime of Democratic support, I won't do be back next time around. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. From now on, I'm an Independent. It's not just Joe Lieberman or Harry Ried or Blanch Lincoln. EVERY Dem in Congress and the Administration is responsible for this mess by waffling, hand wringing, and a shortage of stones. They all know what needs to be done, yet not one of them has called for all of them to step into the woodshed and apply the rod to the spoiled children's bottoms.
Re: I have come to be of the opinion that the people we have put in office as agents of change have been threatened...
Perhaps, though I suspect that none of us want to acknowledge that we have been had. People kept making excuses for Clinton...
Richard,
I think the real issue with Gibson should have been his, and in fact too many democrats as well, willingness to use military force as a matter of national policy, not as a last resort.
We are signitories to the UN Charter which starts with the preamble:
PREAMBLE
WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS DETERMINED
•to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and
•to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and
•to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be maintained, and
•to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,
AND FOR THESE ENDS
•to practice tolerance and live together in peace with one another as good neighbours, and
•to unite our strength to maintain international peace and security, and
•to ensure, by the acceptance of principles and the institution of methods, that armed force shall not be used, save in the common interest, and
•to employ international machinery for the promotion of the economic and social advancement of all peoples,
HAVE RESOLVED TO COMBINE OUR EFFORTS TO ACCOMPLISH THESE AIMS
We cannot strike and protest like the 60s. Now we will be branded as terrorists and locked up like in China.
Obama voted for this before his election... the first sign of what was to come.
I called the offices of both Congressman Grayson and Frank because 1) they serve on the Financial Services Committee and 2) they have enough intestinal fortitude to speak out about the follies of the GOP.
I told them that I was distressed to hear many GOP congress critters rave on about voting against spending bills and then, in the same breath, tout all the earmarks they brought to their districts. I asked them to insert a paragraph in each of these bills to say that any earmarks inserted by a representative who does not vote for the bill becomes null and void.
Each staffer was intrigued by my idea and said he would forward my suggestion to the representative.
@dougw
Well said.
The issue with the Gibson segment was it was discussed on Gibson’s ground. Gibson wanted to dish on ‘libruls’ and he got his way.
The REAL issue was who was worse. I can’t think of one nor could any other reasonable being. Gibson would have lost the debate AND been denied his opportunity to spew his crap. ‘Libruls’ would be correct and it would not be a conspiracy . . . AND Gibson would have remained just another inbred idiot.
It would have been better radio also . . .
One, two, three, four, we declare a wealth war
five, six, seven, eight, it time to roll back the reagan tax break
Its time the bottom 90%, the workers of America get what we have coming to us, a real chance to gain wealth for working hard every day
The claim Wilt made was 20,000 women. He didn't however use the term "porked".
First time in the chat room. I am getting a bit burned out by all the bickering going on over the health care debate. So once again the cons win by making the public sick of dems.
We could have public health care quickly if the unions went on strike. As Thom has said in the past "in Europe the govts are afraid of the unions". As a retired union member I have heard my union leaders say they cant strike because of signed contracts with contractors and govt agencies. The founders of our modern unions were murdered, beaten, lives were destroyed to help get the standard of liveing we once had before Regan destroyed the air trafic control union. The teamsters could shut down this country within one week. The Iron workers and Operation engeniers could stop all construction in this country in one day. Yes this would hurt the poor and middle class more than the upper 10% but it would begin to make buying legislators more expensive than serving the people of this country. You want to see the people angry in this country wait until they go to the grocery store and the shelves are MT. As long as it is more profitable for corperate America to buy congress than it is to be of service to the American people, we will contine to to get "Screwed". The people in this contry are unwilling to put their jobs and well being on the line so we don't deserve a better standard of liveing, national health care.
Here I sit broken hearted...came to s__t....but only farted.