Prof. of behavioral science (University of Chicago) Nicholas Epley recenty did a study with surveys and brain scans, and found that people are egocentric when considering other peoples mindsets. They use their own beliefs as a starting point, which colours thier final conclusions. The same process happens when they try and devine the mind of God. The same parts of the brain are involved. In other words God's beliefs are our own which serves as an echo chamber to validate one's own beliefs. We create God in our own image.
The farming that I saw in Afghanistan was very small scale, oxen-drawn wooden or iron plows, in fields the size that a single ox-human pair could manage. Of course, many of the fields that I saw were fallow because of landmines, some of which date back to the Soviet era, some much more recent. (We had to go through landmine education prior to beintg in country - now I know the difference between a claymore vs. a bouncing betty, for instance, or what to do if you find yourself in a minefield...usually you've found out becuase someone has set one off and become a casualty, and the worst thing to do is rush to help and become a further casualty yourself...)
Anyway, in the market place a couple of days a week in Dashti-Q'aleh was full of organic cauliflower, carrots and other local produce.
I also saw, on the Tajik side of the border - we drove down through Tajikistan having flown into Dushanbe - many abandonded collective farms that have laid fallow since the fall of the Soviet Union.
Defense Secretary Rbt. Gates went before congress this morning to explain Obama's new Afghanistan policy. He said that the administration would start considering (paraphrasing) withdrawal in 2011. (In other words, it's not a hard and fast deadline.)
Since "America's Nightmare" is being featured on this page, here's a comment on Sarah Palin as she continues her book tour. On one stop recently, admirers marveled how she “understood” them, and how “Godly” she was; that may be true only in relation to Palin’s belief in her own “divinity.” It does say a great deal about the people who “identify” with Palin, and who they are (unless, of course, they don’t really know her as much as they think).
How people have forgotten--or have a twisted idea of "godliness." The real Palin, as Troopergate demonstrated, is prone to abuse power for petty personal interest. As her attacks on Obama during the campaign indicated, she is not “above” using racism, fear and paranoia to “advance” her agenda. As her book demonstrates, she is not “above” engaging in dishonest personal attacks, refusing to take personal responsibility, and being incapable of distinguishing fact from fiction. One reviewer of her book noted that she seemed incapable of “introspection,” meaning the inability to rationalize her beliefs, or reflect on her own errors of judgment and correct them (like, say, George Bush); she prefers to blame others for her mistakes and shortcomings. Perhaps because Alaska is so backward and isolated from civilization, only there could someone like Palin advance from a mayor’s office that resembled a “Louisiana bait shop” to the governor’s “mansion” by stepping on numerous toes, making more enemies in her own party than the opposition, and fooling a lot of people.
Obama represents what people can aspire to; Palin represents something altogether different, although what that can be is a matter of debate.
All anyone remembers is the Couric interview, but there was, of course, much more. After a 2007 interview with a Pittsburgh radio station, Tribune-Review columnist Dimitri Vassilaros called Palin the Republican's "beacon of light." He stated that she was "pragmatic" and "principled," and was "the brightest light in the land of the midnight sun." He went to say that Palin regarded the Constitution as her "Bible for governing." The amusing part of this report was that Vassilaros was not jesting. During the interview Palin's response to the repeated question if she was planning to run for president was giggling, laughing nervously, behaving as if a 10-year-old being asked if she has a crush on some boy. She never said yes, but she didn't say no, either. Vassilaros called it "self-deprecation"; it sounded to me more like an embarrassing lack of self-discipline, forthrightness and firmness.
However, radio jockeys in Florida did peg Palin correctly when they exposed her massive ego and lack of common sense when the “President of France”—actually two Canadian pranksters—called in to engage in small chit-chat—the ridiculousness of which Palin utterly failed to catch-on to; she actually believed that the “President of France” would call her on some small-time radio show with a less-than-serious news format.
On the campaign trail, in between the annoying, rude speech mannerisms in the same vein as the gut-churning spectacle of other white people trashing a black man in a demonizing and dehumanizing manner, Palin spoke as if she wasn't aware of media revelations that called into question her "maverick" status. She talked about battling the "good old boys" and ethics reform, yet she was being investigated over unethical actions in the "good old boy" vein in the firing of the public safety commissioner, who had the temerity to not to fire her sister’s ex-husband. She then claimed she stood up to oil companies, yet neglected to mention she is sought to weaken the Endangered Species Act to facilitate drilling in ANWR. More outrageously, she claimed to oppose earmarks, yet media reports say she repeatedly sought--and received--them.
Another reality Palin's "fans" seem to like about her is that like Dick Cheney, Palin really is a rogue operator who believes she is above the law and even her own self-proclaimed "ethics"--especially given her limited “knowledge” of the Constitution. During the vice presidential “debate,” Joe Biden had to correct her belief that the Constitution didn’t apply to her. One might recall as well during that so-called “debate” the moderator tossed out cream puff questions (abortion wasn’t even mentioned) that were easy for Palin to digest, but at least Biden respected the debate format; his opponent behaved as if this was a campaign speech, interrupted occasionally by someone else talking. Palin’s arrogance (and perhaps a tacit confession of incompetence) was on full display when she announced she wasn’t going to answer questions “the way you want me to.” This apparently happened quite frequently, considering the shallowness of her responses throughout when she wasn’t completely off topic. This “maverick,” “agent of change” and “Washington outsider” repeated the same “folksy” clichés, right-wing talking points and fear propaganda we had been force-fed by the Bush administration for eight years.
It is also interesting to note that while Palin felt she had an “obligation” to denounce “radical” black preacher Jeremiah Wright and “expose” the “full extent” of his influence over Obama to frightened white people, the media paid little attention to Palin’s “anointment” by a Kenyan preacher named Thomas Muthee as the future governor of Alaska. Muthee was known as a “witch-hunter” in Kenya, accusing at least one woman of being a “witch,” her possession by the devil causing a car accident. References to Muthee’s “witch-hunting” expertise could be found on the website of Palin’s church, until it was removed after she announced that she was running for governor. Is this the “godly” woman Palin's "fans" are referring to?
I support and am willing to pay a war tax. I am also for the draft. I am definitely opposed to any further addition to Chaney’s Private contractor army. Having a standing army not committed to the US could have a lot of uses to the plutocracy none of which would require government approval.
How can we say don’t touch my great grandson’s piggy bank for healthcare but it is ok to keep Chaney’s War machine going to turn out the big profit bucks for the few.
It is our time and our responsibility if we are unwilling to foot the bill in dollars and human life then it’s not responsible to pass that burden on to an overworked armed forces and our great grand children.
If the President simultaneously builds a woman friendly. clean renewable energy and small organic farm agronomy economy infrastructure while keeping Al qaeda's hands off the nuclear power- he could be proclaimed a hero just in time for his 2nd term election. He should fund significantlyhttp://www.rawa.org/index.php and http://jobsforafghans.org/
Since this is comment page and not a chat room, I'll comment on Ed Schultz's disagreement yesterday with a black female caller who was offended by the idea that the Lakewood police officers should be “deified,” considering how cheaply the lives of people in her community were regarded not just by police, but by white society in general; all-white inquest juries say as much. Although there are exceptions, in general there is a vast disconnection in viewpoints in a society where the business of police is to protect the “haves” against the “have-nots,” largely denoted along racial lines.
But then again, I wouldn’t expect some people to fully comprehend this, living in a world of what they know is what they see in the television news world. The television world doesn’t tell you things like these hard economic times are hitting minorities much harder than whites, and joblessness—especially for blacks—is already at depression levels, and if the past is any example, will have to wait much longer in line than whites.
Yes, it's Obama's war now, but as a "practical" political matter, he had little choice. I suspect that he and the generals were convinced by the example of the troop surge in Iraq, which some people believe was a "success" and giving it a "shot" in Afghanistan is worth a try, if only for reputation and pride's sake. But it's still a mistake, because Afghanistan is far less (and always has been) bureaucratized than Iraq, with government (even by the Taliban) having to make concessions with local tribal leaders and warlords to exert nominal control.
Last night, after the President's Afghanistan policy speech, we all heard the Senior gentleman from Arizona say that while he supported the escalation, he did not support the decision to establish a timetable for withdrawal (What??!! You want to go to war with an EXIT STRATEGY??).
This morning, I got an e-mail from, Russ Feingold's office (one of few folk who work on Capitol Hill that I used to have some respect for), stating that he cannot support the President's decision to escalate WITHOUT a timetable for withdrawal!
I've gotta wonder - did Russ' office write up two responses, one assuming a timetable, the other assuming none, and send the wrong one out this morning? I sure hope that's the case.
The plutocracy in their first positional paper Crisis of Democracy “A Report on the Governability of Democracy to the Trilateral Commission” Stated that they should limit higher education because educated labors make a disgruntled workforce.
The architect of that paper Zbigniew Brzezinski in his book Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era makes the point that it has been proven too easy to control the minds and motivations of the masses with presentable radio and television characters. He suggests that the Multi National Bankers and Business Elite use the programming that they are paying for with their advertising dollars be crafted to carry concomitant messages. The application of Nero Linguistic Programming and Cerebral Cybernetics are suggested as useful tools in shaping the messages are also mentioned. That was way back in 1972.
I had to leave yesterday to get some last minute yard work done or I was looking at a "spanking" from the wife. I wanted to respond to your comments regarding John Edwards. Amen.
Even though I live in Minnesota, I volunteered to canvas in Iowa for Edwards. Trudging thru the snow in Northern Iowa in Dec & Jan. getting doors slammed in your face was less than fun. Edwards was the only viable candidate who got it, when it comes to the inequalities in our system and the threats posed by corporations. He had everything. Except, ultimately, self control. A real tragedy. Yes, Richard, I agree, I would take him, human weaknesses and all, in a heartbeat.
There are times I hear various pundits, politicians, etc... that make me wonder "why is that true ?"
The latest example of this occurred after Obama's Afganistan plan was made public.
Yet again the same voices who supported more than 10 years of war in Iraq and Afganistan are opposed to setting deadlines(In this case the 2011 ).
They belive this will embolded the enemy because if they know that they can hold on to the day of the deadline they can win. This seems to be accepted by the military, by the media and by the politicians. My point is why do we not ever consider the other side of the equation. These are all possible consequences of announcing an indefinite commitment.
1 The local government never works to establish a credible force because it is cheaper easier to let the US do it for them. Also much less risk for them to let the US government provide protection vs a local force possibly infiltrated by insurgents.
2 They would have to legitimize their positions in the government without the weight of the US military on their side
3. The insurgents change tactics to low grade guerilla warfare knowing that no invader will commit to a neverending conflict. In fact they have experience with this scenarios when the Russians invaded Afganistan. This is their country they have no where else to go. Why would they not "wait out" the occupiers of their country?
4. Most of the military "surge" relies on national guard troops who did not expect to be permanent military personell. This means that they are making people who might have joined the National Gaurd less likely to join if they are going to be committed to long term military tours.
So maybe we consider making them justify their arguments rather than let them be repeated as gospel.
Poverty rate keeps growing but the press is blind to it. I have read that 50% of our children will qualify for food stamps. Something is not right in our country.
we've become a nation of cowards and it began 50+ years ago.We're afraid to look them in the eyes because like an animal they will sense the fear and attack without consequences.
Here's the Portland Protest. I wish you guys were here and could go with me. It's so hard to do this again. I feel so awful for the citizens in Afghanistan who have been through so very much already. They don't need this at all. The poor women who are trying to take care of their families amidst the sexism and now more bombing. There is no fairness and this decision our President has made is unbearable.
Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 5:00pm
ACTION AGAINST ESCALATION IN AFGHANISTAN!
End the US Wars and Occupations!
The American People Say NO to Troop Escalations in Afghanistan!
This Wednesday, December 2nd, one day after the expected official announcement by President Obama that the US will send an additional 30,000 US troops to Afghanistan, local peace and social justice organizations will gather at the Federal Building in downtown Portland to protest the decision to escalate the war and occupation. The demonstration against sending additional US troops will begin at 5:00 PM on Wednesday, December 2nd, at the Federal Building at SW Madison and SW 3rd in downtown Portland, Oregon.
Backing the local call for protesting President Obama's decision are Peace and Justice Works Iraq Affinity Group, Portland Code Pink, Portland Peaceful Response Coalition, Freedom Socialist Party, International Socialist Organization, Portland War Resisters League, the Military and Draft Counseling Project, Oregon Community of War Tax
Resistance, Whitefeather Peace House, Living Earth, Peace Voice, Progressive Democrats of Oregon, Students United for Palestinian Equal Rights, Vancouver for Peace and others. To add your organization's name to the call to oppose troop escalations in Afghanistan, please call 503-344-5078 or write to pprc@riseup.net.
Please spread the word, and join us this Wednesday, December 2nd, at 5:00 PM, at the Federal Building at SW Madison & SW 3rd in downtown Portland.
For more information, please call 503-344-5078 or visit www.pprc-news.org
Oh yeah, one more thing....on that Facebook page where I posted the MM letter? I wrote Why does the President read Thomas Fried Man and not Thomas Hartmann?
Prof. of behavioral science (University of Chicago) Nicholas Epley recenty did a study with surveys and brain scans, and found that people are egocentric when considering other peoples mindsets. They use their own beliefs as a starting point, which colours thier final conclusions. The same process happens when they try and devine the mind of God. The same parts of the brain are involved. In other words God's beliefs are our own which serves as an echo chamber to validate one's own beliefs. We create God in our own image.
@Mark: Palin-Bachmann 2012
Defund Texas to pay for the war(s) . . .
Defund Texas.
The farming that I saw in Afghanistan was very small scale, oxen-drawn wooden or iron plows, in fields the size that a single ox-human pair could manage. Of course, many of the fields that I saw were fallow because of landmines, some of which date back to the Soviet era, some much more recent. (We had to go through landmine education prior to beintg in country - now I know the difference between a claymore vs. a bouncing betty, for instance, or what to do if you find yourself in a minefield...usually you've found out becuase someone has set one off and become a casualty, and the worst thing to do is rush to help and become a further casualty yourself...)
Anyway, in the market place a couple of days a week in Dashti-Q'aleh was full of organic cauliflower, carrots and other local produce.
I also saw, on the Tajik side of the border - we drove down through Tajikistan having flown into Dushanbe - many abandonded collective farms that have laid fallow since the fall of the Soviet Union.
I, for one, welcome the Obama-haters to the ranks of the anti-war movement.
(sarcasm alert!)
Already Backpedaling
Thom,
Defense Secretary Rbt. Gates went before congress this morning to explain Obama's new Afghanistan policy. He said that the administration would start considering (paraphrasing) withdrawal in 2011. (In other words, it's not a hard and fast deadline.)
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/12/02/senate-committee-questio...
Since "America's Nightmare" is being featured on this page, here's a comment on Sarah Palin as she continues her book tour. On one stop recently, admirers marveled how she “understood” them, and how “Godly” she was; that may be true only in relation to Palin’s belief in her own “divinity.” It does say a great deal about the people who “identify” with Palin, and who they are (unless, of course, they don’t really know her as much as they think).
How people have forgotten--or have a twisted idea of "godliness." The real Palin, as Troopergate demonstrated, is prone to abuse power for petty personal interest. As her attacks on Obama during the campaign indicated, she is not “above” using racism, fear and paranoia to “advance” her agenda. As her book demonstrates, she is not “above” engaging in dishonest personal attacks, refusing to take personal responsibility, and being incapable of distinguishing fact from fiction. One reviewer of her book noted that she seemed incapable of “introspection,” meaning the inability to rationalize her beliefs, or reflect on her own errors of judgment and correct them (like, say, George Bush); she prefers to blame others for her mistakes and shortcomings. Perhaps because Alaska is so backward and isolated from civilization, only there could someone like Palin advance from a mayor’s office that resembled a “Louisiana bait shop” to the governor’s “mansion” by stepping on numerous toes, making more enemies in her own party than the opposition, and fooling a lot of people.
Obama represents what people can aspire to; Palin represents something altogether different, although what that can be is a matter of debate.
All anyone remembers is the Couric interview, but there was, of course, much more. After a 2007 interview with a Pittsburgh radio station, Tribune-Review columnist Dimitri Vassilaros called Palin the Republican's "beacon of light." He stated that she was "pragmatic" and "principled," and was "the brightest light in the land of the midnight sun." He went to say that Palin regarded the Constitution as her "Bible for governing." The amusing part of this report was that Vassilaros was not jesting. During the interview Palin's response to the repeated question if she was planning to run for president was giggling, laughing nervously, behaving as if a 10-year-old being asked if she has a crush on some boy. She never said yes, but she didn't say no, either. Vassilaros called it "self-deprecation"; it sounded to me more like an embarrassing lack of self-discipline, forthrightness and firmness.
However, radio jockeys in Florida did peg Palin correctly when they exposed her massive ego and lack of common sense when the “President of France”—actually two Canadian pranksters—called in to engage in small chit-chat—the ridiculousness of which Palin utterly failed to catch-on to; she actually believed that the “President of France” would call her on some small-time radio show with a less-than-serious news format.
On the campaign trail, in between the annoying, rude speech mannerisms in the same vein as the gut-churning spectacle of other white people trashing a black man in a demonizing and dehumanizing manner, Palin spoke as if she wasn't aware of media revelations that called into question her "maverick" status. She talked about battling the "good old boys" and ethics reform, yet she was being investigated over unethical actions in the "good old boy" vein in the firing of the public safety commissioner, who had the temerity to not to fire her sister’s ex-husband. She then claimed she stood up to oil companies, yet neglected to mention she is sought to weaken the Endangered Species Act to facilitate drilling in ANWR. More outrageously, she claimed to oppose earmarks, yet media reports say she repeatedly sought--and received--them.
Another reality Palin's "fans" seem to like about her is that like Dick Cheney, Palin really is a rogue operator who believes she is above the law and even her own self-proclaimed "ethics"--especially given her limited “knowledge” of the Constitution. During the vice presidential “debate,” Joe Biden had to correct her belief that the Constitution didn’t apply to her. One might recall as well during that so-called “debate” the moderator tossed out cream puff questions (abortion wasn’t even mentioned) that were easy for Palin to digest, but at least Biden respected the debate format; his opponent behaved as if this was a campaign speech, interrupted occasionally by someone else talking. Palin’s arrogance (and perhaps a tacit confession of incompetence) was on full display when she announced she wasn’t going to answer questions “the way you want me to.” This apparently happened quite frequently, considering the shallowness of her responses throughout when she wasn’t completely off topic. This “maverick,” “agent of change” and “Washington outsider” repeated the same “folksy” clichés, right-wing talking points and fear propaganda we had been force-fed by the Bush administration for eight years.
It is also interesting to note that while Palin felt she had an “obligation” to denounce “radical” black preacher Jeremiah Wright and “expose” the “full extent” of his influence over Obama to frightened white people, the media paid little attention to Palin’s “anointment” by a Kenyan preacher named Thomas Muthee as the future governor of Alaska. Muthee was known as a “witch-hunter” in Kenya, accusing at least one woman of being a “witch,” her possession by the devil causing a car accident. References to Muthee’s “witch-hunting” expertise could be found on the website of Palin’s church, until it was removed after she announced that she was running for governor. Is this the “godly” woman Palin's "fans" are referring to?
Is this what Palin’s “fans” see in themselves?
I support and am willing to pay a war tax. I am also for the draft. I am definitely opposed to any further addition to Chaney’s Private contractor army. Having a standing army not committed to the US could have a lot of uses to the plutocracy none of which would require government approval.
How can we say don’t touch my great grandson’s piggy bank for healthcare but it is ok to keep Chaney’s War machine going to turn out the big profit bucks for the few.
It is our time and our responsibility if we are unwilling to foot the bill in dollars and human life then it’s not responsible to pass that burden on to an overworked armed forces and our great grand children.
Research - hydrocarbon law and various countries ie Iraq
If the President simultaneously builds a woman friendly. clean renewable energy and small organic farm agronomy economy infrastructure while keeping Al qaeda's hands off the nuclear power- he could be proclaimed a hero just in time for his 2nd term election. He should fund significantlyhttp://www.rawa.org/index.php and http://jobsforafghans.org/
Since this is comment page and not a chat room, I'll comment on Ed Schultz's disagreement yesterday with a black female caller who was offended by the idea that the Lakewood police officers should be “deified,” considering how cheaply the lives of people in her community were regarded not just by police, but by white society in general; all-white inquest juries say as much. Although there are exceptions, in general there is a vast disconnection in viewpoints in a society where the business of police is to protect the “haves” against the “have-nots,” largely denoted along racial lines.
But then again, I wouldn’t expect some people to fully comprehend this, living in a world of what they know is what they see in the television news world. The television world doesn’t tell you things like these hard economic times are hitting minorities much harder than whites, and joblessness—especially for blacks—is already at depression levels, and if the past is any example, will have to wait much longer in line than whites.
Yes, it's Obama's war now, but as a "practical" political matter, he had little choice. I suspect that he and the generals were convinced by the example of the troop surge in Iraq, which some people believe was a "success" and giving it a "shot" in Afghanistan is worth a try, if only for reputation and pride's sake. But it's still a mistake, because Afghanistan is far less (and always has been) bureaucratized than Iraq, with government (even by the Taliban) having to make concessions with local tribal leaders and warlords to exert nominal control.
Do Senators even pay attention??
Last night, after the President's Afghanistan policy speech, we all heard the Senior gentleman from Arizona say that while he supported the escalation, he did not support the decision to establish a timetable for withdrawal (What??!! You want to go to war with an EXIT STRATEGY??).
This morning, I got an e-mail from, Russ Feingold's office (one of few folk who work on Capitol Hill that I used to have some respect for), stating that he cannot support the President's decision to escalate WITHOUT a timetable for withdrawal!
http://feingold.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=320330
I've gotta wonder - did Russ' office write up two responses, one assuming a timetable, the other assuming none, and send the wrong one out this morning? I sure hope that's the case.
The plutocracy in their first positional paper Crisis of Democracy “A Report on the Governability of Democracy to the Trilateral Commission” Stated that they should limit higher education because educated labors make a disgruntled workforce.
The architect of that paper Zbigniew Brzezinski in his book Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era makes the point that it has been proven too easy to control the minds and motivations of the masses with presentable radio and television characters. He suggests that the Multi National Bankers and Business Elite use the programming that they are paying for with their advertising dollars be crafted to carry concomitant messages. The application of Nero Linguistic Programming and Cerebral Cybernetics are suggested as useful tools in shaping the messages are also mentioned. That was way back in 1972.
@Richard
I had to leave yesterday to get some last minute yard work done or I was looking at a "spanking" from the wife. I wanted to respond to your comments regarding John Edwards. Amen.
Even though I live in Minnesota, I volunteered to canvas in Iowa for Edwards. Trudging thru the snow in Northern Iowa in Dec & Jan. getting doors slammed in your face was less than fun. Edwards was the only viable candidate who got it, when it comes to the inequalities in our system and the threats posed by corporations. He had everything. Except, ultimately, self control. A real tragedy. Yes, Richard, I agree, I would take him, human weaknesses and all, in a heartbeat.
There are times I hear various pundits, politicians, etc... that make me wonder "why is that true ?"
The latest example of this occurred after Obama's Afganistan plan was made public.
Yet again the same voices who supported more than 10 years of war in Iraq and Afganistan are opposed to setting deadlines(In this case the 2011 ).
They belive this will embolded the enemy because if they know that they can hold on to the day of the deadline they can win. This seems to be accepted by the military, by the media and by the politicians. My point is why do we not ever consider the other side of the equation. These are all possible consequences of announcing an indefinite commitment.
1 The local government never works to establish a credible force because it is cheaper easier to let the US do it for them. Also much less risk for them to let the US government provide protection vs a local force possibly infiltrated by insurgents.
2 They would have to legitimize their positions in the government without the weight of the US military on their side
3. The insurgents change tactics to low grade guerilla warfare knowing that no invader will commit to a neverending conflict. In fact they have experience with this scenarios when the Russians invaded Afganistan. This is their country they have no where else to go. Why would they not "wait out" the occupiers of their country?
4. Most of the military "surge" relies on national guard troops who did not expect to be permanent military personell. This means that they are making people who might have joined the National Gaurd less likely to join if they are going to be committed to long term military tours.
So maybe we consider making them justify their arguments rather than let them be repeated as gospel.
Poverty rate keeps growing but the press is blind to it. I have read that 50% of our children will qualify for food stamps. Something is not right in our country.
President Obama was sounding an awful lot like President Bush this evening. I wonder what techniques our military leaders used to brainwash him.
we've become a nation of cowards and it began 50+ years ago.We're afraid to look them in the eyes because like an animal they will sense the fear and attack without consequences.
Here's the Portland Protest. I wish you guys were here and could go with me. It's so hard to do this again. I feel so awful for the citizens in Afghanistan who have been through so very much already. They don't need this at all. The poor women who are trying to take care of their families amidst the sexism and now more bombing. There is no fairness and this decision our President has made is unbearable.
Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 5:00pm
ACTION AGAINST ESCALATION IN AFGHANISTAN!
End the US Wars and Occupations!
The American People Say NO to Troop Escalations in Afghanistan!
This Wednesday, December 2nd, one day after the expected official announcement by President Obama that the US will send an additional 30,000 US troops to Afghanistan, local peace and social justice organizations will gather at the Federal Building in downtown Portland to protest the decision to escalate the war and occupation. The demonstration against sending additional US troops will begin at 5:00 PM on Wednesday, December 2nd, at the Federal Building at SW Madison and SW 3rd in downtown Portland, Oregon.
Backing the local call for protesting President Obama's decision are Peace and Justice Works Iraq Affinity Group, Portland Code Pink, Portland Peaceful Response Coalition, Freedom Socialist Party, International Socialist Organization, Portland War Resisters League, the Military and Draft Counseling Project, Oregon Community of War Tax
Resistance, Whitefeather Peace House, Living Earth, Peace Voice, Progressive Democrats of Oregon, Students United for Palestinian Equal Rights, Vancouver for Peace and others. To add your organization's name to the call to oppose troop escalations in Afghanistan, please call 503-344-5078 or write to pprc@riseup.net.
Please spread the word, and join us this Wednesday, December 2nd, at 5:00 PM, at the Federal Building at SW Madison & SW 3rd in downtown Portland.
For more information, please call 503-344-5078 or visit www.pprc-news.org
Oh yeah, one more thing....on that Facebook page where I posted the MM letter? I wrote Why does the President read Thomas Fried Man and not Thomas Hartmann?
Yeah ! Get em!
Loretta,
You are so kind. It's wonderful to know you.
I am sorry about the standoff, Quark and the Prez announcement not what we had hoped for.
'Need a laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwXIzIJBeqY