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My thoughts are Grace that Thom was thinking our leaders throw us under the bus- at least that's the way I am feeling. I think Thom may not have fully agreed with such a blanket statement obviously. but what he may have been doing was validating the caller's anger and strengthening the need for the people to wake up and become sober to the urgency of our situation. He and the far left are sounding the alarm bells hoping the rest of sleeping America will wake up.
Well Pakistan has nukes because India has nukes because China has nukes because Russia has nukes because....
Did I hear correctly that Thom "didn't disagree" with the caller who said that Obama is NO CHANGE WHATSOEVER from Bush?
No change whatsoever?
This drives me crazy. We liberals can have such horrible political discernment -- and it's no wonder that a minority of conservatives control the country instead of us, the majority.
We throw our leaders under the bus if we disagree with them on any point.
Dan- you have it. And this is exactly why I giving Obama the benefit of the doubt. We know how these bastards treat their women animals and fellow man. Watch them with nuclear power. But still, we need a special strike team to get those. Someone called into Stephanie's show this morning and said what will occur is some of our troops/ ops will drive the Al Queda/ out of Pakistan to a wall of US Troops to the north in Afghanistan. Perhaps the India troops will protect their own border to the south and we can sandwich the medieval crazies.
The Economic Reality That No One Wants to Talk About
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-reich/the-economic-reality-that_b_3...
Former Labor Secretary Robert Reich writes today:
The basic assumption that jobs will eventually return when the economy recovers is probably wrong. Some jobs will come back, of course. But the reality that no one wants to talk about is a structural change in the economy that's been going on for years but which the Great Recession has dramatically accelerated.
Under the pressure of this awful recession, many companies have found ways to cut their payrolls for good. They've discovered that new software and computer technologies have made workers in Asia and Latin America just about as productive as Americans, and that the Internet allows far more work to be efficiently outsourced abroad.
This means many Americans won't be rehired unless they're willing to settle for much lower wages and benefits. Today's official unemployment numbers hide the extent to which Americans are already on this path. Among those with jobs, a large and growing number have had to accept lower pay as a condition for keeping them. Or they've lost higher-paying jobs and are now in a new ones that pays less.
Yet reducing unemployment by cutting wages merely exchanges one problem for another. We'll get jobs back but have more people working for pay they consider inadequate, more working families at or near poverty, and widening inequality. The nation will also have a harder time restarting the economy because so many more Americans lack the money they need to buy all the goods and services the economy can produce.
Thom put Jason in his place you can bet that Jason is in shock and feeling disoriented and hit in the gut. I tell you, these ghouls are are like Rooks on a Chess board. Far to the right, they are bullies. Far to the left and they are cowards, expressing each gradationally per their position switching in between the two extremes. Thom gave him a boundary, That's what these ghouls do and require. They test their boundaries and it is us to us to place that boundary there. You can bet Jason had a little group of cheerleaders to whom he was trying to model how to talk to a Liberal and you can bet they all feel wounded right now because they finally 'got their feel' like the crew on the Black Pearl in the Pirates of the Carribbean, because normally, these sociopaths do not feel. They are zombies. Study Marshall Rosenberg. Child rapists, molesters, general murderers, they do it to feel, to feel a boundary, to feel period. Because these sociopaths need to feel vicariously, they impinge and witness the pain on another's face, voice, being. What I am saying here is Jason called in to hear the mammoth rumble we heard from Thom. He had to use Thom vicariously as a ghoul needing a body to feel, needing a host from which to take breath and oxygen.
Time for a nice Ohmmm.....the original sound in the Universe which set 'the tone' of creation.
I would like to ask why is there not a push to create a detente for Pakistan & India to create a solution to have them remove their nuclear weapons. One of the biggest threats in the region is that Pakistan has nuclear weapons that could fall into the wrong hands. Also to have India and Pakistan de-escalate their troop build up would free up more Pakistan troops for the Afgan border. To me this would be far more effective than 30,000 more US troops.
Food Fascist,
I wish Thom would unleash some of that righteous anger when he has conservative guests...
...although, I have been called an unpleasant dinner guest before.
ACLU: Obama’s reversal on Patriot Act reform ‘a major travesty’
Key components in the USA Patriot Act are set to expire at the end of the year, but President Barack Obama is seeking to extend them, reversing his stark opposition in the past to the same provisions.
"The president's reversal on Patriot Act reform is a major travesty," said Michelle Richardson, Legislative Counsel for the leading civil rights group ACLU, in an interview with Raw Story. "There have been many, many abuses of power in the last four years."
http://rawstory.com/2009/11/obamas-patriot-act-extensions-major-flip-ear...
Zero G. and Food Fascist,
I agree. I loved your comment, Zero G.
Profound, Zero G.
And frankly, I loved hearing Thom unleash like that. That is who I would like to hear more of! I actively send out links to Thom's show and I do enter the dark depths, I am glad they are calling in and getting 'Thom'd'. We all have to help, we all must make this a 24/ 7 duty.
The Obama Administration has been repeatedly throwing bones to the dogs on the right with little to show for his attentions but soiled shoes and torn cuffs. I keep waiting for some signs that our President shares the concerns of those who supported him last fall and who toil to remain hopeful. A nice gesture would be to fire up the anti-trust division of the Justice Dept. and oppose the merger of NBC Universal and Comcast. I fear the ramifications for our fourth estate with this marriage. Further consolidation of media cannot be a good thing for our democracy or for consumers.
Hey Thom - you gave the caller plenty of time to insult you with sly and not-so-sly digs; it's not surprising you called and raised.
But a more cheerful thought: we live in times that call us to be great. We may never be the Greatest Generation but the rise of facism in our beloved USA gives us the chance to show what we're made of.
I find this to be an empowering thought. Love, not anger, will see us through!
Was Jason ever in combat? My father twitched when we watched the news from Iraq on the tv. When asked if it was the footage bothering him he said...yes,,, these naive kids, they have no idea of who is behind these wars- My father had been a sergeant in the Korean War, and no longer voted Republican after Reagan, though giving Bush Sr a chance, then no longer ever did he vote Republican - war machine = an inflated economy built on hell when we could just as easily have heaven, but first, we must deal with these little bastards like Jason- Jason....wan't that the name of the guy in the Friday 13 movies - no that was Freddie Kruger-- help me out here, I know Jason was in one of those 70s? 80s? horror flicks.
Jason has been whittling away at Thom for weeks. It was evident in his voice that Thom was becoming very impatient with him, and today, finally he put Jason in his place. Thom, you're human, I couldn't have withstood the constant lies and talking points from Jason for as long as you did. Don't take his calls again. Remember, you don't have to engage everybody and not everyone wants to have a dialogue.
Peace & Love,
River
Reciting poetry can leave one in an emotionally open place.
THX Zero G - I also Twittered.
Go Thom!
Jason is a scary cadavor.
To Jason the Coward Caller
So the truth is crafted by the number of people that believe it? Good! Santa Claus DOES exist!
Cowards and Bullies are part of the same solution.
I'm Explaining a Few Things
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You are going to ask: and where are the lilacs?
and the poppy-petalled metaphysics?
and the rain repeatedly spattering
its words and drilling them full
of apertures and birds?
I'll tell you all the news.
I lived in a suburb,
a suburb of Madrid, with bells,
and clocks, and trees.
From there you could look out
over Castille's dry face:
a leather ocean.
My house was called
the house of flowers, because in every cranny
geraniums burst: it was
a good-looking house
with its dogs and children.
Remember, Raul?
Eh, Rafel? Federico, do you remember
from under the ground
my balconies on which
the light of June drowned flowers in your mouth?
Brother, my brother!
Everything
loud with big voices, the salt of merchandises,
pile-ups of palpitating bread,
the stalls of my suburb of Arguelles with its statue
like a drained inkwell in a swirl of hake:
oil flowed into spoons,
a deep baying
of feet and hands swelled in the streets,
metres, litres, the sharp
measure of life,
stacked-up fish,
the texture of roofs with a cold sun in which
the weather vane falters,
the fine, frenzied ivory of potatoes,
wave on wave of tomatoes rolling down the sea.
And one morning all that was burning,
one morning the bonfires
leapt out of the earth
devouring human beings --
and from then on fire,
gunpowder from then on,
and from then on blood.
Bandits with planes and Moors,
bandits with finger-rings and duchesses,
bandits with black friars spattering blessings
came through the sky to kill children
and the blood of children ran through the streets
without fuss, like children's blood.
Jackals that the jackals would despise,
stones that the dry thistle would bite on and spit out,
vipers that the vipers would abominate!
Face to face with you I have seen the blood
of Spain tower like a tide
to drown you in one wave
of pride and knives!
Treacherous
generals:
see my dead house,
look at broken Spain :
from every house burning metal flows
instead of flowers,
from every socket of Spain
Spain emerges
and from every dead child a rifle with eyes,
and from every crime bullets are born
which will one day find
the bull's eye of your hearts.
And you'll ask: why doesn't his poetry
speak of dreams and leaves
and the great volcanoes of his native land?
Come and see the blood in the streets.
Come and see
The blood in the streets.
Come and see the blood
In the streets!
Pablo Neruda
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/74/PicassoGuernica.jpg
Who wrote the poem about the Franco years and what was it's name?
Zero G.,
I was completely unprepared for Guernica's size --- 3.5 metre (11 ft) tall and 7.8 metre (25.6 ft) wide. As I recall, it took most of the wall. (Yes, I loved the museum, too, including Water Lilies.)
I spent a lot of time there, after seeing Guernica, and it hung so you could not miss it as you came up a stairway, I would take refuge with Monet's Water Lilies...
Zero G.,
Yes, I saw it (Guernica) at MOMA. Horrifying.