You made specific comments that sounded to me like they came from someone enjoying white privilege. Do you deny such a thing exists? Or do you think white privilege is another liberal fantasy we created out of thin air, just for rhetorical purposes?
There is a difference between admitting something exists, and thinking that it is a problem. I will do both when liberals start admitting that Affirmative Action is racist, that blacks are just as racist as whites, and that people "play the race card" to their advantage, even if they don't mean it.
I believe he, along with others, tried to overthrow the Republic.
Did I study it in College? No, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn last night! ;-]
Actually, the internet is a great source of information.
Yes, I try to be careful by attempting to make it harder for marketing pests and scam artists to get my information. But, I am more concerned about someone out there on the internet who may not like what I have said and could come gunning for me.
Maybe I should be more polite sometimes but I usually try to match other people's politeness with my own. And I feel that if they can foist their beliefs on me then I should also have the same right. Certain people seem to think that certain topics, while they throw out their own beliefs on those topics, expect others to not have any countervailing views on the subject. I think that people who try to proselytize others in a public forum should be open to having their views challenged. People challenge my views all the time...and that is just fine. I have no problem with that. Some subjects just cannot be proven one way or the other because they are not falsifiable. There is just no real evidence to support their beliefs.
I am also not happy about the government spying on us. But, I know that the government already has all kinds of information on us and that will never go away. Just being in the service... with a top secret clearance, and then working in sensitive civilian jobs after that which required a top-secret crypto clearance that got me into many government installations like the Pentagon, the CIA, DIA, NSA and others...leaves a trail of personal information that they will have forever. Funny though, how other bits (whole warehouses full) of information conveniently gets destroyed by them. Information that would upset people if they could read it or view it for themselves.
True, most of us are not that important for the government to come after us...unless we're being a real thorn in their side. Someone like Chris Hedges or Laura Poitras or Glenn Greenwald, perhaps. You'd have to be on the level of say... Michael Hastings who was instrumental in ruining a top General's (head of the CIA no less) career or whatever else that "breaking news story was that he had the FBI harassing him for just prior to Hasting's high speed crash into a tree in LA." You'd have to have lots of condemning information like Edward Snowden, or even Sibel Edmonds, or Gary Webb, or... well... there are a lot of them.
Covering up your web cam..disconnect your microphone as well...if you can....very good ideas! A better idea is to trash all those I-phones and other mobile devices. It's not just the government that can geo-locate people...lots of weirdos out there can too. Spying on people just got so much better when social networking came into being.
I don't have a cell phone. I hate them. I can just barely stand laptops. I had to use them for work. But now I don't have to. Besides, I think cell phones give you brain cancer...unless you use an ear bud or something to keep them away from the scalp. And those tiny data entry pads can give people trigger fingers... which isn't very much fun, I hear!
Didn't you say that you are fairly large...like 6' 6"? I think most people may very well stare at people who are larger than them. Probably thinking you were a football player or something. Gee...you have a therapist? And you don't live in Hollywood? Some people may think that I should probably see one...but I'd certainly never be crazy enough to pay one. I'm not calling you crazy. I guess if you are wealthy enough then therapist fees are not much of a problem. Having $150,000 student loan to pay off would drive a lot of people a bit nuts, I think. We really need to work to change that...maybe you might even get reimbursed for it if the laws change.
I've been here since '98, and I can see how much it's grown too. But I don't really go downtown anymore. No reason to, and no time even if I wanted to go. The last time I went, a few years ago, I was just giving a driving tour to someone from out of town. My students keep pestering me to take them on a field trip down there, but I think they just want the day off from real work. And field trips are a hassle to coordinate.
Back when I did go downtown, I liked to lay between the Prudential building and the taller Aon building beside it. There is a plaza in between the two, where you can lay and look up and see both. It's an interesting feeling.
I know people that live near the beach that never go to it, and people who live near ski resorts who have never been on them. I suppose just knowing you're close to it, you think you can always go to it "another day".
I work on equipment in public schools all throughout the bay area and get the opportunity to talk to teachers from grade school to high school level and what I hear is that education had been sabotaged by a combination of standardized testing and budget cuts--all from right wing interest groups.
These are public school teachers (traditionally pro-union and liberal) from the San Fransico area (almost as blue as Chicago), and they blame the right wing? That'd be like me going to a gay bar and asking them what they thought about marriage equality.
Matt, are you willfully obtuse or genuinely so? The starved local, municipal budgets come from Grover Nordquist's tax policies. He wanted "a few of the states to go bankrupt just to teach them a lesson". The Federal Government cut off the states of funds so then the states cut off the cities and, of course, the standardized testing is also a Federal policy of the Bush adminisration.
In addition, California had Arnold Schwarzenegger forever as governor.
Why don't you and your buddy, Kend, admit that you don't know - and don't wanna know - what you're talking about.
My wife is a liberal and we learned by the second date that politics was something we couldn't discuss. Even when I'm listening to talk radio - Progressive or Conservative - I politely turn it off when she walks in the room. (I wish she would do the same when I walk in on her watching The Real Housewives...) She has one day every year when she says she is a Republican - Christmas bonus day. The amount of taxes that get taken out of that single check would pay for a family vacation to DisneyWorld for all five of us, and then some.
Apropos to #116 ~ And don't even think about blaming this travesty on federally funded public education. This is a direct result of 30 years of Reaganomics and the build up of a Corporate mercenary military industrial complex at the sacrifice of public education. Don't forget, many of my fellow bloggers including myself are products of the old public educational system. We are living proof that the system works and we won't mind reminding you of that fact.
Quote ChicagoMatt:But, even if the problem is right wing policies, which I am not conceding, what is the solution now, at this point? We're two generations into it. Is it even fixable now? And, if so, where should that fix come from?
ChicagoMatt ~ We have a federal Department of Education for a reason. It is a grave matter of national security to have a well educated and informed electorate. Without that, why defend anything? Without an informed citizenry, what is there to defend? we have a $1 Trillion annual military budget. Half of that would easily cover all the text books every child in this nation would need in one year. The surplus would easily cover pay extensions to teachers. The spare change would cover physicals and all medical expenses, healthy school lunches, and the rest could be used to cure our homeless problem.
We throw away so much money on our military it is a disgrace. We siphon away so much money from our children and their future it is a disgrace. Perhaps it is this reason why the right wing so desperately wants to starve education--the less the electorate knows and is able to think for themselves the more likely right wing wackos chances of winning elections. Wow! Seems to be working. The Tea Party should be the poster child for the right wing educational platform. If they only had someone who could spell write their protest signs for them: ie. "Youth in Asia Will Kill Your Grandmother!" "No Pubic Option" "Get A Brain, Morans" "Calculis Is Easy Tax Forms Impossable" "English Is Our Language, No Excetions, Learn It" "Respect Are-Country, Speak English" "California, A Glaring Example Of Liberal Failor".
A glaring example of our current "informed electorate." I'm sure this is a pretty sight for an English teacher. Just imagine how much worse it just might get. It would be funny if it wasn't true.
AIW: That's right...careful...someone's wife, that makes all that money, could be a lawyer! ;-} By the way, I was wondering if certain people who have gotten pretty emotional didn't pull in someone they knew for support. But, I guess that is just my paranoia oozing out of the cracks! Since I have been accused of it...I may as well flaunt it! But who knows?
By the way Matt, there's a difference between calling you a hypocrite in general terms (as if that defined who you were), and identifying something specific you've said as hypocritical. Specifics make the difference between unsubstantiated rubbish and the real mccoy.
Ditto white privilege. You made specific comments that sounded to me like they came from someone enjoying white privilege. Do you deny such a thing exists? Or do you think white privilege is another liberal fantasy we created out of thin air, just for rhetorical purposes? - AIW
ChicagoMatt: You bring back pleasant memories of Chcago. But for me, that was when the Prudential building was the tallest structure in Chicago. I rode the Chicago and Northwestern from Great Lakes Training Center to both Chicago some weekends and to Milwaukee on other week ends. I still remember some of the mid 60s songs that I heard on the trip into the cities. I really liked going to the Science Museum (there was a Wilson Cloud Chamber and a German U-boat). I loved going to the Art Museum not too far from the Marina. I even marched in the Navy Band during half time at Soldiers field once. I had some really great times in Chicago back then. I had some scary times as well..walking from Old Town all the way back, past the Marina Towers, and somehow I managed to get into some sub-level of Chicago right around where the bridge went across that channel.
Since then, I have flown in and out of Chicago Ohare, to catch a connecting flight, a number of times and was able to see just how much Chicago had grown. I had a hard time finding the Prudential Building from the air because there were so many other buildings that dwarfed it. I remember that elevator to the top, where there was an observation tower and restaurant, and that was the fastest elevator I had ever rode on. I attended a lot of dinner/theater plays in Chicago...and I was even introduced to Catherine Crosby (Bing's wife) in her dressing room after her play that evening. What a nice lady!
The "middle", Kend? Unproductive. How blandsville. A snore….
Gee Kend, thanks for setting us straight once again on who's really to blame for foreclosures; the victims! They brought it on themselves, trusting banks to be selling legitimate mortgages! Shame on those homeowners! - AIW
Kend: We don't have a party in the middle because we don't have a party on the left. The Democrat party is right of the middle, and in some ways are even right of the Republicans.
And who do you think scammed all those people into mortgages they couldn't afford to keep for very long? It was criminal real estate and mortgage loan people making a killing off of the gullibility of people who didn't know any better....people who believed in the lies that they were told..."never a better time to buy", "buy now before it's too late", "yes, you too can own your own home"...just sign on the dotted line...."never mind those questions about your income and job history...we'll fill in the blanks for you".
Then those mortgages were sliced and diced and turned into tranches, with lies from the ratings agencies who rated those tranches at high ratings...then they were sold to retirement fund managers, who got their cut. And another layer of chicanery came when insurance companies, backed those mortgage casinos, who were wheeling and dealing in these mortgage packages in Wall Street, could not actually make good on the losses of those who got stuck with bad paper. So, their partners in crime...the bought off politicians...came up with a scheme to bail them out. They pushed the bail out onto the taxpayers. And did they make sufficient changes to the laws to prevent this from happening again? NO! They created a Moral Hazard situation where it is ensured to happen again...and again. The people who were suckered into mortgages and the retired people and some other countries, who invested in those tranches, lost big time while the real estate, mortgage, and insurance companies made a killing. I wouldn't buy another house in this country even if I didn't have one. People get burned!
I had a coworker who got a little inheritance and used it, before and during the 2008 bubble, to buy a few pieces of real estate as investments. He got lucky on some because he sold before the bubble popped. But, I think he was still buying houses and condos during the bubble. I don't know how he wound up on it..haven't seen him since I quit (I mean retired ;-} ) But I remember him talking about the real estate lady he had dealt with in Phoenix. He was trying to buy rental units and the lady would say things like all these renters were nothing but cockroaches and deserved to be taken for all they could take them for. Behind those welcoming smiles are a bunch of megalomaniacal capitalist psychopaths who will stop at nothing to get you to sign on the dotted line even if they thought you really could not afford what they were selling you.
It wasn't just my coworker. I had a friend who worked as a real-estate loan officer and he told me how these people, who he knew couldn't really afford the mortgage they were trying to get...but he would have been fired unless he did all he could to get them to sign up for the mortgage. And this was happening all the time...not just a few.
It almost always comes down from the top greedy psychopaths that put pressure on their employees to do the wrong thing. My friend had to quit...he just couldn't take the guilt feeling he had. He felt caught between his boss and the right thing to do (ie: save those poor people from themselves and the wolves ready to devour them).
And now, after the wolves feasted on the unwary...the wolves continue to blame their victims for being stupid or desperate.
Matt warns against the use of the term "talking points" because it sounds dismissive of other opinions.
I'll label any opinion presented, by you or anyone, as a talking point if I've heard it a thousand times already without much variation, and from large numbers of people. That's my definition of a talking point. - AIW
I work on equipment in public schools all throughout the bay area and get the opportunity to talk to teachers from grade school to high school level and what I hear is that education had been sabotaged by a combination of standardized testing and budget cuts--all from right wing interest groups.
These are public school teachers (traditionally pro-union and liberal) from the San Fransico area (almost as blue as Chicago), and they blame the right wing? That'd be like me going to a gay bar and asking them what they thought about marriage equality.
But, even if the problem is right wing policies, which I am not conceding, what is the solution now, at this point? We're two generations into it. Is it even fixable now? And, if so, where should that fix come from?
Being the local government kind of guy I am, I say let San Francis worry about its kids, Chicago worry about its kids, and everyone one else worry about theirs. If San Francis wants to pay its teachers $200,000 a year, and raise property taxes to do it, then go for it. None of this should involve the federal government.
And, while politicians bicker over how to fix education, the students continue going to failing schools. Those same kids pass by my private school every day on their way to their overcrowded, failing public school. It's like watching people trapped in a burning car, and wondering what caused the accident, rather than trying to save the victims.
Ok, maybe I am being hyperbolic and a little heavy with the similes tonight. I'm an English teacher - it's in my blood. And, for what it's worth, I am doing my part by trying to convince the priest at my school to adopt the airplane mentality to the classroom. If the plane (class) is about to take off, try to fill the seats at any price you can get, since I'm teaching the same stuff anyway. Getting $50 a month for a desk that would otherwise be empty is better than nothing. We can't save all Chicago Public School students, but we can save a few.
Chicago Matt thanks it's usually me that gets picked on. I find it interesting that Americans have to be on the left or right maybe it's time for a party in the middle.
I feel like I'd actually be friends with a lot of these people in real life. Something about talking politics - even with people who disagree with you - is fun for me. I wish it wasn't such a taboo subject with people in real life.
Chuckle8: one man's insurgent is another man's freedom fighter!
There's a lot of them in Ukraine right now. Whose propaganda do we believe...the propaganda of the US backed Nazi regime who were insurgents fighting against the legitimate Ukraine government or the Russian backed Ukrainian insurgents now trying to separate from the US backed Nazi Kiev government? Are citizens supposed to just shut up and just take anything and everything that their corrupt government throws at them? The US would never have become a great nation if the colonial citizens had not had civilian insurgents fighting the well trained and armed British soldiers. If it were not for the citizen "insurgents" finally rebelling against their despot rulers we'd still be ruled by Kings.
By the way, did you notice how restrained the original Ukraine Police were when those Nazi's were throwing Molotov cocktails and everything else they could throw at the police? That's 180 degrees out from the way the US police conduct themselves against demonstrators who are demonstrating peacefully in the US.
In the US, the few police stand out there and crack heads or tear gas people. The people could rip them apart if they wanted to. In the US, you'd never see all of the police just trying to hold their own behind big shields while demonstrators hurl Molotov cocktails at them. And the very little gun fire in the original Ukraine Nazi revolution came from the Nazi demonstrators not the police.
You have pointed out the things to dislike about democracy; that is, 51% of the people forcing the other 49% to rules they do not like. I want to point you to what Winston Churchill said. Paraphrasing, he said "democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others".
We agree, I think. After so many years of each side calling the other side name - so much polarization - how can it be fixed now? Will people start suddenly respecting the choices of others - listening to Obama even if they didn't vote for him, or understanding that the reason the House isn't doing anything is because people elected Republican reps for that purpose - to stop Washington?
If this were a marriage, I feel like the marriage counsellor would even be calling for divorce by now.
Chicago Matt thanks it's usually me that gets picked on. I find it interesting that Americans have to be on the left or right maybe it's time for a party in the middle.
With all do respect no one took anyone's homes. They lost them. Americans are so over financed. Rules made it so easy to get a mortgage and with very little or nothing down it was just a matter of time Before it all fell apart.
If you want to get back at the super rich quit borrowing money from them that will hurt them the most.
Yup that's the one. I used to feel like Catiline all of the time when I was in college and would try to say anything that wasn't liberal. I thought the guy sitting down was Cicero though. I need to find out what Catiline's crime was before I go making it my picture. Could be something unintentionally embarassing, like beastiality or something.
Also, I understand your hesitancy to click links like that. My bad. I just picked the first one I saw on google images. And, like I think we've estabished, people like me just kind of assume we are being tracked no matter what, for marketing purposes. To worry that the government is tracking you for some reason seems, to me at least, somewhere between paranoid (the p-word again) and self-centered. Like, "I am so important that it is worth people's time to track me." Or maybe I just have really low self-esteem and don't see why anyone would care what I look up, think, etc...
I told my therapist once that I got nervous walking through the lunchroom when I was in high school, because I thought everyone was staring at me. She told me that was very self-centered of me to think that everyone cared that I was even in the room. The way she phrased it made a lot of sense to me. It's kind of the same with electronic tracking.
That being said, I do cover my webcam with tape. Because I have a teenage daughter, and I know all about Remote Access Tools. I am more concerned about perverts then marketers or the NSA or whatever government agencry wants to check out my laptop.
Did you study ancient Rome in college, or learn all of this interesting stuff by yourself?
Matt - There ya go again, reading more into my post than was actually there. I never claimed to know how to run a school. I simply stated that when I was growing up, schools were part of the commons, and people's property & state taxes are what funded them. Teachers and parents didn't have to dig into their pockets for supplies like textbooks, writing paper, writing utensils, etc.
I've mentioned this for two reasons: #1 to remind people that it hasn't always been this way, and #2 that if it hasn't always been this way, there's no reason it has to remain so. Since it serves only the interests of the privatizers and not the public, I believe it should go bye-bye, just like for-profit health insurance needs to go bye-bye. I couldn't care less about telling you or anyone how to run a school, nor do I fancy myself even qualified to do so. I just don't think parents and teachers should have to dig into their pockets for these kinds of things people's taxes once paid for, that' s all. I believe it is unfair, that privatizers are just ripping people off. As I've pointed out already, this phenomenon of the hostile corporate takeover extends well beyond education, into other areas like healthcare and our postal service.
I just love how you twist my paragraph to mean those with special needs should be admitted to your school at the sacrifice or expense of those without such needs. Excuse me, but I did not suggest that. Meanwhile I don't hear you flat-out denying those candidates are turned away, denied enrollment without viable alternatives offered them. Do correct me if I'm wrong.
When you can't present a good argument, Matt, it hardly adds credence to your position when you try twisting the meaning of what someone else has said.
As to whether disabled and/or handicapped pupils were kept separate from the rest of us, back when I was a kid in public school, I can't answer that question in depth or with confidence. Even growing up during that era, the fifties & sixties, I wasn't up on that, lacking the circumstances, motive or inclination to be aware of how that part of our school system functioned. I think it depends on the kind of disability we're talking about. I don't recall any of my classmates being blind or deaf. My guess is, they weren't rejected and turned away, even if taught separately. There could be practical and/or logistical reasons why certain students might need to be taught separately. But those my age or older who are handicapped themselves, or had a relative or close friend who was blind or deaf (for example), would be better qualified to answer such a question. - Aliceinwonderland
Quote Palindromedary:By the way, I believe it is not a good thing to click on just any link..especially ones that direct you to their private web sites...like ones with "cloudfront.net/wp-content" which I believe the wp stands for Word Press because there are tools available for actually spying on visitors to the site...like WASSUP.
Palindromedary ~ The same thought occured to me. Therefore, I second your comment!
Pal -- You should read Article 1, section 8 of the constitution. In the 2nd amendent it does say the purpose for bearing arms is to have a militia. However, Art 1, Sec 8 says one of the functions of that militia is to put down insurgents.
By the way, I believe that we are all somewhere along the line between Conservative extremes and the Liberal/Progressive extremes...so it is difficult to pigeon hole everyone's beliefs. We all agree with some things and disagree with others. I consider myself a liberal/progressive yet I believe in private gun ownership because I believe in not only self-protection (the cops can't always respond in time to save soon-to-be victims..and that usually equates to...dead victims), but I also believe that widespread gun ownership helps to keep a rogue government from going all totalitarian on us.
Totally agree to both thoughts!
If there's one thing the media loves, it's finding the most extreme people to interview. I swear, if there is a shooting on the South Side of Chicago, the seek out the most stereotypical "ghetto" person to talk to about it. And if there's something happening in Alabama, they look for the nearest pickup truck with a Confederate flag on it to stand in front of and talk to the guy in it, preferably with a mullet and overalls.
The other problem with gun control is - what about the millions of guns already out there? If you stopped selling guns and ammo today, there's already enough out there to keep things just like they are now for the rest of my life. But, that's probably a topic for another blog...
You said that people who voted for Romney were idiots. I won't tell you wether or not that applies to me, since people's votes should be secret. Of course, here in Chicago, it doesn't really matter how you vote. We're about as "blue state" as they get.
And I'm not mad. Sorry if it comes across that way. I appreciate adult conversation. Being surrounded by the 12-14 age group all day, while it does help me feel young and hip, and drains my brain. I can only hear about One Direction or Justin Bieber so much...
(BTW, my students, who swear, have boyfriends and girlfriends, and opinions about world events - the oldest was born in the year 1999. Let that sink in for awhile.) :)
I would warn against labeling different opinions as "talking points". The conservatives do that too, and it's not right in that case either. It's just a way of disregarding the opinion, without really thinking about it. Back when I would listen to Rush (yes, roll your eyes. When I used to get a lunch break, I would listen to him.), he used the term "talking points" a lot when referring to Democrats and the media.
And I'm not a Conservative! I'm for environmental regulation, immigration reform, gay rights, and a few other Liberal causes.
There is a difference between admitting something exists, and thinking that it is a problem. I will do both when liberals start admitting that Affirmative Action is racist, that blacks are just as racist as whites, and that people "play the race card" to their advantage, even if they don't mean it.
I believe he, along with others, tried to overthrow the Republic.
Did I study it in College? No, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn last night! ;-]
Actually, the internet is a great source of information.
Yes, I try to be careful by attempting to make it harder for marketing pests and scam artists to get my information. But, I am more concerned about someone out there on the internet who may not like what I have said and could come gunning for me.
Maybe I should be more polite sometimes but I usually try to match other people's politeness with my own. And I feel that if they can foist their beliefs on me then I should also have the same right. Certain people seem to think that certain topics, while they throw out their own beliefs on those topics, expect others to not have any countervailing views on the subject. I think that people who try to proselytize others in a public forum should be open to having their views challenged. People challenge my views all the time...and that is just fine. I have no problem with that. Some subjects just cannot be proven one way or the other because they are not falsifiable. There is just no real evidence to support their beliefs.
I am also not happy about the government spying on us. But, I know that the government already has all kinds of information on us and that will never go away. Just being in the service... with a top secret clearance, and then working in sensitive civilian jobs after that which required a top-secret crypto clearance that got me into many government installations like the Pentagon, the CIA, DIA, NSA and others...leaves a trail of personal information that they will have forever. Funny though, how other bits (whole warehouses full) of information conveniently gets destroyed by them. Information that would upset people if they could read it or view it for themselves.
True, most of us are not that important for the government to come after us...unless we're being a real thorn in their side. Someone like Chris Hedges or Laura Poitras or Glenn Greenwald, perhaps. You'd have to be on the level of say... Michael Hastings who was instrumental in ruining a top General's (head of the CIA no less) career or whatever else that "breaking news story was that he had the FBI harassing him for just prior to Hasting's high speed crash into a tree in LA." You'd have to have lots of condemning information like Edward Snowden, or even Sibel Edmonds, or Gary Webb, or... well... there are a lot of them.
Covering up your web cam..disconnect your microphone as well...if you can....very good ideas! A better idea is to trash all those I-phones and other mobile devices. It's not just the government that can geo-locate people...lots of weirdos out there can too. Spying on people just got so much better when social networking came into being.
I don't have a cell phone. I hate them. I can just barely stand laptops. I had to use them for work. But now I don't have to. Besides, I think cell phones give you brain cancer...unless you use an ear bud or something to keep them away from the scalp. And those tiny data entry pads can give people trigger fingers... which isn't very much fun, I hear!
Didn't you say that you are fairly large...like 6' 6"? I think most people may very well stare at people who are larger than them. Probably thinking you were a football player or something. Gee...you have a therapist? And you don't live in Hollywood? Some people may think that I should probably see one...but I'd certainly never be crazy enough to pay one. I'm not calling you crazy. I guess if you are wealthy enough then therapist fees are not much of a problem. Having $150,000 student loan to pay off would drive a lot of people a bit nuts, I think. We really need to work to change that...maybe you might even get reimbursed for it if the laws change.
I've been here since '98, and I can see how much it's grown too. But I don't really go downtown anymore. No reason to, and no time even if I wanted to go. The last time I went, a few years ago, I was just giving a driving tour to someone from out of town. My students keep pestering me to take them on a field trip down there, but I think they just want the day off from real work. And field trips are a hassle to coordinate.
Back when I did go downtown, I liked to lay between the Prudential building and the taller Aon building beside it. There is a plaza in between the two, where you can lay and look up and see both. It's an interesting feeling.
I know people that live near the beach that never go to it, and people who live near ski resorts who have never been on them. I suppose just knowing you're close to it, you think you can always go to it "another day".
Matt, are you willfully obtuse or genuinely so? The starved local, municipal budgets come from Grover Nordquist's tax policies. He wanted "a few of the states to go bankrupt just to teach them a lesson". The Federal Government cut off the states of funds so then the states cut off the cities and, of course, the standardized testing is also a Federal policy of the Bush adminisration.
In addition, California had Arnold Schwarzenegger forever as governor.
Why don't you and your buddy, Kend, admit that you don't know - and don't wanna know - what you're talking about.
My wife is a liberal and we learned by the second date that politics was something we couldn't discuss. Even when I'm listening to talk radio - Progressive or Conservative - I politely turn it off when she walks in the room. (I wish she would do the same when I walk in on her watching The Real Housewives...) She has one day every year when she says she is a Republican - Christmas bonus day. The amount of taxes that get taken out of that single check would pay for a family vacation to DisneyWorld for all five of us, and then some.
At least since I was a teenager I was always for the pubic option - and also the public option.
Apropos to #116 ~ And don't even think about blaming this travesty on federally funded public education. This is a direct result of 30 years of Reaganomics and the build up of a Corporate mercenary military industrial complex at the sacrifice of public education. Don't forget, many of my fellow bloggers including myself are products of the old public educational system. We are living proof that the system works and we won't mind reminding you of that fact.
ChicagoMatt ~ We have a federal Department of Education for a reason. It is a grave matter of national security to have a well educated and informed electorate. Without that, why defend anything? Without an informed citizenry, what is there to defend? we have a $1 Trillion annual military budget. Half of that would easily cover all the text books every child in this nation would need in one year. The surplus would easily cover pay extensions to teachers. The spare change would cover physicals and all medical expenses, healthy school lunches, and the rest could be used to cure our homeless problem.
We throw away so much money on our military it is a disgrace. We siphon away so much money from our children and their future it is a disgrace. Perhaps it is this reason why the right wing so desperately wants to starve education--the less the electorate knows and is able to think for themselves the more likely right wing wackos chances of winning elections. Wow! Seems to be working. The Tea Party should be the poster child for the right wing educational platform. If they only had someone who could spell write their protest signs for them: ie. "Youth in Asia Will Kill Your Grandmother!" "No Pubic Option" "Get A Brain, Morans" "Calculis Is Easy Tax Forms Impossable" "English Is Our Language, No Excetions, Learn It" "Respect Are-Country, Speak English" "California, A Glaring Example Of Liberal Failor".
Google Images: Teaparty Spelling Errors
A glaring example of our current "informed electorate." I'm sure this is a pretty sight for an English teacher. Just imagine how much worse it just might get. It would be funny if it wasn't true.
AIW: That's right...careful...someone's wife, that makes all that money, could be a lawyer! ;-} By the way, I was wondering if certain people who have gotten pretty emotional didn't pull in someone they knew for support. But, I guess that is just my paranoia oozing out of the cracks! Since I have been accused of it...I may as well flaunt it! But who knows?
By the way Matt, there's a difference between calling you a hypocrite in general terms (as if that defined who you were), and identifying something specific you've said as hypocritical. Specifics make the difference between unsubstantiated rubbish and the real mccoy.
Ditto white privilege. You made specific comments that sounded to me like they came from someone enjoying white privilege. Do you deny such a thing exists? Or do you think white privilege is another liberal fantasy we created out of thin air, just for rhetorical purposes? - AIW
ChicagoMatt: You bring back pleasant memories of Chcago. But for me, that was when the Prudential building was the tallest structure in Chicago. I rode the Chicago and Northwestern from Great Lakes Training Center to both Chicago some weekends and to Milwaukee on other week ends. I still remember some of the mid 60s songs that I heard on the trip into the cities. I really liked going to the Science Museum (there was a Wilson Cloud Chamber and a German U-boat). I loved going to the Art Museum not too far from the Marina. I even marched in the Navy Band during half time at Soldiers field once. I had some really great times in Chicago back then. I had some scary times as well..walking from Old Town all the way back, past the Marina Towers, and somehow I managed to get into some sub-level of Chicago right around where the bridge went across that channel.
Since then, I have flown in and out of Chicago Ohare, to catch a connecting flight, a number of times and was able to see just how much Chicago had grown. I had a hard time finding the Prudential Building from the air because there were so many other buildings that dwarfed it. I remember that elevator to the top, where there was an observation tower and restaurant, and that was the fastest elevator I had ever rode on. I attended a lot of dinner/theater plays in Chicago...and I was even introduced to Catherine Crosby (Bing's wife) in her dressing room after her play that evening. What a nice lady!
Well, I'd better stop reminiscing!
The "middle", Kend? Unproductive. How blandsville. A snore….
Gee Kend, thanks for setting us straight once again on who's really to blame for foreclosures; the victims! They brought it on themselves, trusting banks to be selling legitimate mortgages! Shame on those homeowners! - AIW
Kend: We don't have a party in the middle because we don't have a party on the left. The Democrat party is right of the middle, and in some ways are even right of the Republicans.
And who do you think scammed all those people into mortgages they couldn't afford to keep for very long? It was criminal real estate and mortgage loan people making a killing off of the gullibility of people who didn't know any better....people who believed in the lies that they were told..."never a better time to buy", "buy now before it's too late", "yes, you too can own your own home"...just sign on the dotted line...."never mind those questions about your income and job history...we'll fill in the blanks for you".
Then those mortgages were sliced and diced and turned into tranches, with lies from the ratings agencies who rated those tranches at high ratings...then they were sold to retirement fund managers, who got their cut. And another layer of chicanery came when insurance companies, backed those mortgage casinos, who were wheeling and dealing in these mortgage packages in Wall Street, could not actually make good on the losses of those who got stuck with bad paper. So, their partners in crime...the bought off politicians...came up with a scheme to bail them out. They pushed the bail out onto the taxpayers. And did they make sufficient changes to the laws to prevent this from happening again? NO! They created a Moral Hazard situation where it is ensured to happen again...and again. The people who were suckered into mortgages and the retired people and some other countries, who invested in those tranches, lost big time while the real estate, mortgage, and insurance companies made a killing. I wouldn't buy another house in this country even if I didn't have one. People get burned!
I had a coworker who got a little inheritance and used it, before and during the 2008 bubble, to buy a few pieces of real estate as investments. He got lucky on some because he sold before the bubble popped. But, I think he was still buying houses and condos during the bubble. I don't know how he wound up on it..haven't seen him since I quit (I mean retired ;-} ) But I remember him talking about the real estate lady he had dealt with in Phoenix. He was trying to buy rental units and the lady would say things like all these renters were nothing but cockroaches and deserved to be taken for all they could take them for. Behind those welcoming smiles are a bunch of megalomaniacal capitalist psychopaths who will stop at nothing to get you to sign on the dotted line even if they thought you really could not afford what they were selling you.
It wasn't just my coworker. I had a friend who worked as a real-estate loan officer and he told me how these people, who he knew couldn't really afford the mortgage they were trying to get...but he would have been fired unless he did all he could to get them to sign up for the mortgage. And this was happening all the time...not just a few.
It almost always comes down from the top greedy psychopaths that put pressure on their employees to do the wrong thing. My friend had to quit...he just couldn't take the guilt feeling he had. He felt caught between his boss and the right thing to do (ie: save those poor people from themselves and the wolves ready to devour them).
And now, after the wolves feasted on the unwary...the wolves continue to blame their victims for being stupid or desperate.
Matt warns against the use of the term "talking points" because it sounds dismissive of other opinions.
I'll label any opinion presented, by you or anyone, as a talking point if I've heard it a thousand times already without much variation, and from large numbers of people. That's my definition of a talking point. - AIW
These are public school teachers (traditionally pro-union and liberal) from the San Fransico area (almost as blue as Chicago), and they blame the right wing? That'd be like me going to a gay bar and asking them what they thought about marriage equality.
But, even if the problem is right wing policies, which I am not conceding, what is the solution now, at this point? We're two generations into it. Is it even fixable now? And, if so, where should that fix come from?
Being the local government kind of guy I am, I say let San Francis worry about its kids, Chicago worry about its kids, and everyone one else worry about theirs. If San Francis wants to pay its teachers $200,000 a year, and raise property taxes to do it, then go for it. None of this should involve the federal government.
And, while politicians bicker over how to fix education, the students continue going to failing schools. Those same kids pass by my private school every day on their way to their overcrowded, failing public school. It's like watching people trapped in a burning car, and wondering what caused the accident, rather than trying to save the victims.
Ok, maybe I am being hyperbolic and a little heavy with the similes tonight. I'm an English teacher - it's in my blood. And, for what it's worth, I am doing my part by trying to convince the priest at my school to adopt the airplane mentality to the classroom. If the plane (class) is about to take off, try to fill the seats at any price you can get, since I'm teaching the same stuff anyway. Getting $50 a month for a desk that would otherwise be empty is better than nothing. We can't save all Chicago Public School students, but we can save a few.
Chuckle8: one man's insurgent is another man's freedom fighter!
There's a lot of them in Ukraine right now. Whose propaganda do we believe...the propaganda of the US backed Nazi regime who were insurgents fighting against the legitimate Ukraine government or the Russian backed Ukrainian insurgents now trying to separate from the US backed Nazi Kiev government? Are citizens supposed to just shut up and just take anything and everything that their corrupt government throws at them? The US would never have become a great nation if the colonial citizens had not had civilian insurgents fighting the well trained and armed British soldiers. If it were not for the citizen "insurgents" finally rebelling against their despot rulers we'd still be ruled by Kings.
By the way, did you notice how restrained the original Ukraine Police were when those Nazi's were throwing Molotov cocktails and everything else they could throw at the police? That's 180 degrees out from the way the US police conduct themselves against demonstrators who are demonstrating peacefully in the US.
In the US, the few police stand out there and crack heads or tear gas people. The people could rip them apart if they wanted to. In the US, you'd never see all of the police just trying to hold their own behind big shields while demonstrators hurl Molotov cocktails at them. And the very little gun fire in the original Ukraine Nazi revolution came from the Nazi demonstrators not the police.
We agree, I think. After so many years of each side calling the other side name - so much polarization - how can it be fixed now? Will people start suddenly respecting the choices of others - listening to Obama even if they didn't vote for him, or understanding that the reason the House isn't doing anything is because people elected Republican reps for that purpose - to stop Washington?
If this were a marriage, I feel like the marriage counsellor would even be calling for divorce by now.
Chicago Matt thanks it's usually me that gets picked on. I find it interesting that Americans have to be on the left or right maybe it's time for a party in the middle.
With all do respect no one took anyone's homes. They lost them. Americans are so over financed. Rules made it so easy to get a mortgage and with very little or nothing down it was just a matter of time Before it all fell apart.
If you want to get back at the super rich quit borrowing money from them that will hurt them the most.
Yup that's the one. I used to feel like Catiline all of the time when I was in college and would try to say anything that wasn't liberal. I thought the guy sitting down was Cicero though. I need to find out what Catiline's crime was before I go making it my picture. Could be something unintentionally embarassing, like beastiality or something.
Also, I understand your hesitancy to click links like that. My bad. I just picked the first one I saw on google images. And, like I think we've estabished, people like me just kind of assume we are being tracked no matter what, for marketing purposes. To worry that the government is tracking you for some reason seems, to me at least, somewhere between paranoid (the p-word again) and self-centered. Like, "I am so important that it is worth people's time to track me." Or maybe I just have really low self-esteem and don't see why anyone would care what I look up, think, etc...
I told my therapist once that I got nervous walking through the lunchroom when I was in high school, because I thought everyone was staring at me. She told me that was very self-centered of me to think that everyone cared that I was even in the room. The way she phrased it made a lot of sense to me. It's kind of the same with electronic tracking.
That being said, I do cover my webcam with tape. Because I have a teenage daughter, and I know all about Remote Access Tools. I am more concerned about perverts then marketers or the NSA or whatever government agencry wants to check out my laptop.
Did you study ancient Rome in college, or learn all of this interesting stuff by yourself?
Matt - There ya go again, reading more into my post than was actually there. I never claimed to know how to run a school. I simply stated that when I was growing up, schools were part of the commons, and people's property & state taxes are what funded them. Teachers and parents didn't have to dig into their pockets for supplies like textbooks, writing paper, writing utensils, etc.
I've mentioned this for two reasons: #1 to remind people that it hasn't always been this way, and #2 that if it hasn't always been this way, there's no reason it has to remain so. Since it serves only the interests of the privatizers and not the public, I believe it should go bye-bye, just like for-profit health insurance needs to go bye-bye. I couldn't care less about telling you or anyone how to run a school, nor do I fancy myself even qualified to do so. I just don't think parents and teachers should have to dig into their pockets for these kinds of things people's taxes once paid for, that' s all. I believe it is unfair, that privatizers are just ripping people off. As I've pointed out already, this phenomenon of the hostile corporate takeover extends well beyond education, into other areas like healthcare and our postal service.
I just love how you twist my paragraph to mean those with special needs should be admitted to your school at the sacrifice or expense of those without such needs. Excuse me, but I did not suggest that. Meanwhile I don't hear you flat-out denying those candidates are turned away, denied enrollment without viable alternatives offered them. Do correct me if I'm wrong.
When you can't present a good argument, Matt, it hardly adds credence to your position when you try twisting the meaning of what someone else has said.
As to whether disabled and/or handicapped pupils were kept separate from the rest of us, back when I was a kid in public school, I can't answer that question in depth or with confidence. Even growing up during that era, the fifties & sixties, I wasn't up on that, lacking the circumstances, motive or inclination to be aware of how that part of our school system functioned. I think it depends on the kind of disability we're talking about. I don't recall any of my classmates being blind or deaf. My guess is, they weren't rejected and turned away, even if taught separately. There could be practical and/or logistical reasons why certain students might need to be taught separately. But those my age or older who are handicapped themselves, or had a relative or close friend who was blind or deaf (for example), would be better qualified to answer such a question. - Aliceinwonderland
Palindromedary ~ The same thought occured to me. Therefore, I second your comment!
Pal -- You should read Article 1, section 8 of the constitution. In the 2nd amendent it does say the purpose for bearing arms is to have a militia. However, Art 1, Sec 8 says one of the functions of that militia is to put down insurgents.
Totally agree to both thoughts!
If there's one thing the media loves, it's finding the most extreme people to interview. I swear, if there is a shooting on the South Side of Chicago, the seek out the most stereotypical "ghetto" person to talk to about it. And if there's something happening in Alabama, they look for the nearest pickup truck with a Confederate flag on it to stand in front of and talk to the guy in it, preferably with a mullet and overalls.
The other problem with gun control is - what about the millions of guns already out there? If you stopped selling guns and ammo today, there's already enough out there to keep things just like they are now for the rest of my life. But, that's probably a topic for another blog...
You said that people who voted for Romney were idiots. I won't tell you wether or not that applies to me, since people's votes should be secret. Of course, here in Chicago, it doesn't really matter how you vote. We're about as "blue state" as they get.
And I'm not mad. Sorry if it comes across that way. I appreciate adult conversation. Being surrounded by the 12-14 age group all day, while it does help me feel young and hip, and drains my brain. I can only hear about One Direction or Justin Bieber so much...
(BTW, my students, who swear, have boyfriends and girlfriends, and opinions about world events - the oldest was born in the year 1999. Let that sink in for awhile.) :)
I would warn against labeling different opinions as "talking points". The conservatives do that too, and it's not right in that case either. It's just a way of disregarding the opinion, without really thinking about it. Back when I would listen to Rush (yes, roll your eyes. When I used to get a lunch break, I would listen to him.), he used the term "talking points" a lot when referring to Democrats and the media.
And I'm not a Conservative! I'm for environmental regulation, immigration reform, gay rights, and a few other Liberal causes.