DAM and nachos -- I hate to pick on you dreamers, but I have to agree with Obama worker about how scary and how permanent a Romney administration would be. You do realize with the tax holiday and the low capital gains tax it would have put an extra 4 or 5 trillion into the hands of the 0.1%. With that kind of money they could buy elections from now to forever. The failure of the recall in WI of S. Walker shows what can happen when you outspend your opponent at least 16 to 1. Even Thom was buying the BS excuses. Thom was saying Grey Davis was recalled from office for some illiegal activity; the only thing he did was to try to solve CA deficit problem by tripling the auto registration fee.
With 90% of the people for a background check vs the "no 4 trillion funded" NRA, We the People lost. That is why I call you dreamers. On the other hand the wimpy democrats were able to pass the "card check law" amongst several others that would have helped. Just get democrats in both houses and work from that advantage point.
Christie's campaign had to reimburse the taxpayers some $200K that somehow was diverted from his DOJ expense account, as a US attorney, in the gubernatorial race in 2009. Why he wasn't prosecuted for embezzlement remains an unanswered question. Just like the guy he defeated, Jon Corzine, whose role in the pillaging of MF Global customer accounts is being attributed to a trading software glitch, remains unindicted and worry free. These people avoid accountability and jail like you avoid the plague. Connections are the mother's milk of crony capitalism and politician "justice". Sickening.
Governer Christie is in the wrong party. His work ethic and commitment to the people and the truth are constantly at odds with the Republican Agenda. It is my suspicion that Mr. Christie may run for the office of President in the future. Whether that will be as a Republican or something else remains to be seen. However, if he continues to alienate his party by doing what is right, he may have no choice but to run as another party candidate. Time will tell.
mNachos -- When you say more voters voted for a 3rd party than ever before, where are you getting that number? Ross Perot received a lot of votes. As a percentage of the number of voters that voted (the % is the thing that counts not the number of votes) surely Teddy Roosevelt and his bullmoose party must have had the highest for any 3rd party.
Regarding high level of rape in the military, 70 per day, if women were in charge, it could be treated like the 83-year old lady said in the 3rd hour of the show (6/4/13). When a man caught his son who was (retarted?) raping a woman at work, the father had his son castrated. When Dr. Newcomb heard this, he gulped. All men are taken aback. This is such a violation of manhood. But from another point of view, if the gun is loaded to abuse and violate a woman or a man, take away the loaded gun! Especially in a proven case, the punishment, the consequence of castration, makes sense for the crime.
Want stricter gun laws? How about stricter accountability for rape. Rape conviction should require castration. The DNA of a rapist should never be allowed to be passed on to descending generations. It is getting a "high" out of feeling the power of raw violence against another, and all emotion embeds into the DNA. What is recorded in the DNA is suppose to be passed on to future generations as wisdom learned, called evolution, but with the violence creeping into our society, we ought to draw the line. If women were in charge, it would be easy because it is so logical. It's not revenge, it just makes sense. Take away the loaded gun and don't pass on the DNA of violence. Period.
But will the Senate ever make progress moving rape investigation and prosecution out of the military boys club? Women are needed in this picture. Most men will never be even-handed about rape.
N Z Sarah ~ Equal Gender Government! I like that idea! It isn't likely that women can mess up government more than men have. There is also the fact that women are the means through which human life is created. Certainly it stands to reason that they have a greater stake in protecting and nourishing human life. Of course, there are exceptions to every rule. (ie Ayn Rand) However, I would still feel safer with someones mother as President and Commander and Chief than I would with any man. For that matter, in the office of any representatives as well. (I'll tried not to think about Michele Bachmann when I wrote that. It didn't work.)
I agree HEMP is part of the solution and with Equal Gender Government we can achieve sustainable balance.For the last few thousand years our destiny has been under the control of the male .Even now in these "enlightened" times the representation is four men to one woman on a world basis. USA is around only sixteen percent females in government. Those in charge,those men, are committed to war, fossil fuels, money in their pockets and are achieving this with political control. Turn around the wicked cycle of so called growth and support Equal Gender Government, the greatest Human Rights Movement ever.That is the way to HEMP.
Quote dlipman:Basically, it's already too late to prevent superstorms, or their getting worse. The tipping point has passed. The best we can do now is to end enough of the CO2 pollution to return to the "old normal" over the next 200 years or so. It took that long to get here.
dlipman ~ No, there is one other solution! Hemp! If we were to convert all of our resources to industrial Hemp as laid out on this site:
we could actually tip the carbon cycle to out produce carbon dioxide with oxygen and clean the atmosphere. That would require growing enough hemp for all our industrial needs including, fuel, paper, cloth for clothing, plastics, and synthetic materials for housing. Not only would this save trees but it would filter out carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and replace it with oxygen. It would take a tremendous effort; but, at the same time would create millions of new jobs. All it will require is to convince the current industrial base that this change is in all of our best interests. I don't know how that can be done; however, I do know that it will be done. That is what is stated in this prophecy from The Book of Revelations:
Quote Chapter 22 of The Book of Revelations:Revelation 22:1 ¶And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
For whatever it is worth. There is always comfort and encouragement when we see the light at the end of the tunnel.
Quote meglomaniac:So, couple that with the latest C Span conference on Consumption is what many should think can be a good sense what is happening. A striking example to population expansion was talked about. The element that jumped out at me was the population growth in the world which is moving at the rate or size of a New York City every six weeks.
meglomaniac ~ Excellent point! Excessive population growth is directly responsible for not only climate change but many of our major social ills. There is no reason for it to be so out of hand. We've allowed our species to become a Cancer on the face of the planet. Just like unchecked Cancer in the body out of control growth strips the body of all its natural resources and the whole organism along with the Cancer perishes; and, so it is with unchecked population growth and the planet. We should be planning to control this epidemic instead of simply feeding it for profit. Another example of the importance of Planned Parenthood and conception control technologies. Another example of our Government not doing it's job. Thanks for pointing that out my friend!
Yes I agree the storms are man made, and it is time for a responsible news group such as your selves to look into the geoengineering programs of the last forty years. A catastrophic experiment to control the weather that has been hijacked by the military and corporations to enhance their other projects. GMO foods patented by Monsanto to grow in high level aluminum soils, the mining of the worlds resources (melt the arctic for more fossil fuels ), monopolies and control of our insurance, control of food production by using droughts and floods, and the control of the futures market in farming are all making a few people a lot of money. Thom you are so fully into solar power, why is Dane Wigington from the award winning documentary "Why in the World are They Spraying" claiming we have an over 20% reduction in sunlight? Please ask him. Our rain water tests here in New Zealand have positive results for aluminum, barium and strontium. Get your own done from independent labs, the cost is about $50. Find out whose cloud you are under. Ours are sprayed from aircraft on a regular basis.
Basically, it's already too late to prevent superstorms, or their getting worse. The tipping point has passed. The best we can do now is to end enough of the CO2 pollution to return to the "old normal" over the next 200 years or so. It took that long to get here.
What can be thought of as a world leadership approach for our problems not addressed at all by the Media? The G8 is an annual forum for the leaders of eight of the richest and most powerful countries in the world to discuss economic and political issues. In an article by the
Two things captured attention in global warming and a new way to teach engineering is suggested but not presented. Remember my passion to understand derivatives are the key player in engineering. Something new is happening; something is taking shape in the approach to engineering training techniques different than decades ago. The reasons why the University system is opening courseware online all over, some kind of change is taking place.
Tangled Wilderness says:
“The G8 has appointed itself the central forum for global governance. The decisions made at the annual summits have come to shape key decisions in the management of global political and economic affairs. With their combined economic, military, and diplomatic power and influence, the nations of the G8 have tremendous influence over institutions of global governance and economics.”
There is the G20 too, and their take on climate change;
“Climate change is real and it’s barreling down on us. And how are these unelected leaders of the world handling it? By advocating market solutions. By claiming that we can just buy and sell the right to pollute on a global market, so that the rich retain their right to destroy everything. Sounds like something the rich would do…It’s pretty simple to understand that it’s largely giant industrialized infrastructure that got us into this mess and that it doesn’t make a ton of sense to ask those same people how they think we should get out of it. Yet the G20 asks people like free market capitalist Amory Lovin to be the advisor on climate issues, a guy whose resume includes work for Coca-Cola, Walmart, Shell, Monsanto, Lockheed Martin, and the Department of Defense.”
So, couple that with the latest C Span conference on Consumption is what many should think can be a good sense what is happening. A striking example to population expansion was talked about. The element that jumped out at me was the population growth in the world which is moving at the rate or size of a New York City every six weeks. That is something; the demand for goods and services is increasing very fast, especially energy needs are not going down but up. Food clothes place to live every six weeks a new, New York is in demand. Very interesting, wonder if they all have a Mr. Bloomberg.
Actually the frequency of the most severe tornadoes – that is, F3 and above – has been declining during a supposed period of warming temperatures. See the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration article titled “Low Tornado Numbers and Low Tornado Deaths, May 2012-April 2013” at the following url: http://www.norman.noaa.gov/2013/05/low-tornado-numbers-and-low-tornado-deaths-may-2012-april-2013/. To view a long term chart of the data from 1954 through 2012, to to the following url: https://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi/status/336874506922651648/photo/1.The NOAA data is very impressive and speaks to the scientific facts – not feelings or political inclinations.
Even if we do something, it will probably still get worse, although I don't think that inevitability should stop us from trying. The earth is warm enough now that the ice caps will melt, the sea will rise, and the acidification of the oceans will severely deplete our food supply. Add to that the supply of carbon dioxide and methane that will enter the atmosphere from the melting permafrost, and the thawing of the frozen methane crystals in the deep sea and we have another Permian extinction on the way. That's if we stop all smokestacks and petroleum exhaust fumes right now. We will have more than just extreme weather events. We will have climate refugees. Bangladesh, for instance will suffer severe floods. Those that aren't killed will be looking for safety elsewhere. Residents of the Maldives have been in negotiations with India for ideas to move when the seas cover those islands, and New Orleans is a sitting duck unless they get a whole lot of Dutch ingenuity over here to help them hold back the sea. Even the Netherlands, after all these years of winning the fight, is worried. One thing we should certainly be looking at is making ourselves safer or more prepared for climate misfortune. All my Mormon relatives have been keeping a year's worth of food in stock as a matter of tradition. Some of them have even bought waterbeds to store fresh water! Many Californians have earthquake kits and rope ladders. Here in Seattle, we have been told we should have at least 3-4 days of provisions in case something awful happens - because, most likely, we will lose bridges over various waterways around the area. Changes in climate have added to the fall of many empires, the impetus for massive migrations, and the extinction of many forms of life on this planet. We should not presume that we are somehow different.
historywriter ~ BTW. In the past I have been more that critical of you. I have evoked the condemnation of others, most notably, Outback, in this tirade. I would like to apologize on behave of myself and Outback. I have drastically underestimated you; and, for that reason, I want to apologize. In the future I hope that together we can help sculpt the betterment of mankind. I'm trully sorry if I offended you in any way!
Quote historywriter:What are you waiting for? And what are you doing? We should be treating this like a war, with all resources and planning and technology that we can think of thrown into the battle.
historywriter ~ Who could argue with that? No!! We should be treating this as a war. The greatest war that has ever been fought. The reason that we don't is obviously greed. Let us realize that our survival is our ultimate goal and not financial profit. Let us explore the future of the human race and not the demise of such. God bless humanity!!
We don't have to wait to see the consequences of global warming. It's in the headlines every day. Devastating and unusal numbers of tornadoes. Frequent floods (the flood of the century, happening every few years). Drought in other parts of the country. Forest and grass fires destroying houses. The hottest temperatures recorded, ever, over the last 10+ years.
What are you waiting for? And what are you doing? We should be treating this like a war, with all resources and planning and technology that we can think of thrown into the battle. If we recycle once a week, we think we're doing our part. Do you know how many gallons of gas are discharged into the air by a flight from California to New York? You can't try to save enough in the environment to make up the difference.
Well, look at it this way...eventually the storms will get severe enough to kill millions of people with each storm; the global human population will decrease substantially; the amount of human caused damage to the enviroment will decrease; and eventually everything will return to normal. Mother Nature always finds a way to reduce an over-breeding species.
Quote delster:While the results of global warming is most identifiable with the midwest for the current time what terrible events may other regions experience in months to come ? I really can't imagine all the rest of us get off easy. There are bound to be events.
delster ~ You raise a great point! Perhaps we should just wait and let the chips fall where they may. After all this bunch of petroleum fueled NeoCons will never acknowledge any problems created by their constituents until they are directly affected. It behooves us to allow the natural evolution of life to proceed according to its divine plan, no? Allow Mother Nature to dictate our actions in the future. All of our efforts combined will do nothing to influence the current paradigm. Most unfortunate, indeed; however, apparently a necessity. Let us pray the influences of Mother Earth trump the big money influences of the petroleum industry.
While the results of global warming is most identifiable with the midwest for the current time what terrible events may other regions experience in months to come ? I really can't imagine all the rest of us get off easy. There are bound to be events. In consideration of the economy we will suffer what might be described as unsustainable economic catastrophes for which the rich just may have to belly up to the bar and help out with a tax hike. Seems only fair and reasonable.
Sadly, the ability of the average person to link a major storm with long-term climate change is questionable. Not entirely wrong; saying one caused the other is a very difficult connection to make even for experts, since so many variables are at play. One needs to look at long-term trends over a century or more, and of course that's when you lose the public, not to mention politicans. My mother (1913-2012) said she saw a real change in New York City's climate, but how many people can wait that long? It will have to get a lot worse before we reach a "social tipping point" and make substantive changes in what we are doing to a climate that has also passed it's tipping point....
at-a-boy!!! You did your home work. Now share the info with your friends, familey, and co-workers.
I also found Jill Stein to be a good choice for President. I actually campaigned for Rocky Anderson in my town. For 4 straight months all I did was talk to people about Rocky Anderson. I even had a 5 min conversation with a volunteer for the Obama campaign about why I was going to caste my vote for Rocky Anderson. Of course he did as instructed and tried to scare me by saying that a vote like that would just be in favor of Mitt Romney. I of course replyed by saying that I wasn't concerned with such nonsense rehtoric and that either way (Obama or Romney) we would end up with just another Wall St. puppet. BY that point I just calmly hung up the phone and went back to masterbating!
MMmmNACHOS ~ I looked up both Jill and Rocky and they both would make outstanding Presidents. Personally I had to lean a little more toward Rocky because of his bureaucratic experience serving already two terms as the Mayor of Salt Lake City. However, If I were to dig deeper, his political, anti-war activism, dedication to investigating the Bush Administration for war crimes and closing Gitmo, his ability to lower carbon emissions in Salt Lake City by 31%, and his overall commitment to the environment, human rights, and the Constitution would win my vote easily. After hearing his statement to the judiciary committee in 2008 concerning Impeachment proceedings against the Bush Administration he won my heart. Rocky Anderson of the Justice Party. I won't soon forget that name.
DAM you make a very good point...I'll expand on it.
First voting isn't so much about "parties". More so it's about exercising our Democratic Rights and sending a message as to what We the People want; which in a nut shell is leadership that protects and enforces our Constitution...Is representative of We the People, and protects our Liberties and Civil Rights, (in general our wellbeing).
Unfortunatly we are seeing less and less "good leaders" from either side. Hence why sooooooo many people, Left and Right, feel they are NOT being represented by their party; more registered Republicans and Democrats voted for a 3rd party during this last election than every before. And even though that didn't get much - if any - attention from mainstream media...Career politicians got the memo.
What We the People need to do now is our homework and make sure we show up for the mid-term elections...The message we send will prime the 2016 elections.
Keep in mind for 2016; Rocky Anderson of the Justice party, and Jill Stein of the Green Party. And yes DAM, B. Sanders is great leader and a true representative of the American People...He listens, and he is our bull horn. And though I would vote for him if he ran for President (as an Independent), I am not sure he would be able to continue to live up to his reputation, but that is me just being synical after 40 years of being anally raped by the Corporate hijacking of the U.S. Government.
DAM and nachos -- I hate to pick on you dreamers, but I have to agree with Obama worker about how scary and how permanent a Romney administration would be. You do realize with the tax holiday and the low capital gains tax it would have put an extra 4 or 5 trillion into the hands of the 0.1%. With that kind of money they could buy elections from now to forever. The failure of the recall in WI of S. Walker shows what can happen when you outspend your opponent at least 16 to 1. Even Thom was buying the BS excuses. Thom was saying Grey Davis was recalled from office for some illiegal activity; the only thing he did was to try to solve CA deficit problem by tripling the auto registration fee.
With 90% of the people for a background check vs the "no 4 trillion funded" NRA, We the People lost. That is why I call you dreamers. On the other hand the wimpy democrats were able to pass the "card check law" amongst several others that would have helped. Just get democrats in both houses and work from that advantage point.
Christie's campaign had to reimburse the taxpayers some $200K that somehow was diverted from his DOJ expense account, as a US attorney, in the gubernatorial race in 2009. Why he wasn't prosecuted for embezzlement remains an unanswered question. Just like the guy he defeated, Jon Corzine, whose role in the pillaging of MF Global customer accounts is being attributed to a trading software glitch, remains unindicted and worry free. These people avoid accountability and jail like you avoid the plague. Connections are the mother's milk of crony capitalism and politician "justice". Sickening.
Governer Christie is in the wrong party. His work ethic and commitment to the people and the truth are constantly at odds with the Republican Agenda. It is my suspicion that Mr. Christie may run for the office of President in the future. Whether that will be as a Republican or something else remains to be seen. However, if he continues to alienate his party by doing what is right, he may have no choice but to run as another party candidate. Time will tell.
mNachos -- When you say more voters voted for a 3rd party than ever before, where are you getting that number? Ross Perot received a lot of votes. As a percentage of the number of voters that voted (the % is the thing that counts not the number of votes) surely Teddy Roosevelt and his bullmoose party must have had the highest for any 3rd party.
Regarding high level of rape in the military, 70 per day, if women were in charge, it could be treated like the 83-year old lady said in the 3rd hour of the show (6/4/13). When a man caught his son who was (retarted?) raping a woman at work, the father had his son castrated. When Dr. Newcomb heard this, he gulped. All men are taken aback. This is such a violation of manhood. But from another point of view, if the gun is loaded to abuse and violate a woman or a man, take away the loaded gun! Especially in a proven case, the punishment, the consequence of castration, makes sense for the crime.
Want stricter gun laws? How about stricter accountability for rape. Rape conviction should require castration. The DNA of a rapist should never be allowed to be passed on to descending generations. It is getting a "high" out of feeling the power of raw violence against another, and all emotion embeds into the DNA. What is recorded in the DNA is suppose to be passed on to future generations as wisdom learned, called evolution, but with the violence creeping into our society, we ought to draw the line. If women were in charge, it would be easy because it is so logical. It's not revenge, it just makes sense. Take away the loaded gun and don't pass on the DNA of violence. Period.
But will the Senate ever make progress moving rape investigation and prosecution out of the military boys club? Women are needed in this picture. Most men will never be even-handed about rape.
N Z Sarah ~ Equal Gender Government! I like that idea! It isn't likely that women can mess up government more than men have. There is also the fact that women are the means through which human life is created. Certainly it stands to reason that they have a greater stake in protecting and nourishing human life. Of course, there are exceptions to every rule. (ie Ayn Rand) However, I would still feel safer with someones mother as President and Commander and Chief than I would with any man. For that matter, in the office of any representatives as well. (I'll tried not to think about Michele Bachmann when I wrote that. It didn't work.)
I agree HEMP is part of the solution and with Equal Gender Government we can achieve sustainable balance.For the last few thousand years our destiny has been under the control of the male .Even now in these "enlightened" times the representation is four men to one woman on a world basis. USA is around only sixteen percent females in government. Those in charge,those men, are committed to war, fossil fuels, money in their pockets and are achieving this with political control. Turn around the wicked cycle of so called growth and support Equal Gender Government, the greatest Human Rights Movement ever.That is the way to HEMP.
dlipman ~ No, there is one other solution! Hemp! If we were to convert all of our resources to industrial Hemp as laid out on this site:
http://thehempsolution.blogspot.com/
we could actually tip the carbon cycle to out produce carbon dioxide with oxygen and clean the atmosphere. That would require growing enough hemp for all our industrial needs including, fuel, paper, cloth for clothing, plastics, and synthetic materials for housing. Not only would this save trees but it would filter out carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and replace it with oxygen. It would take a tremendous effort; but, at the same time would create millions of new jobs. All it will require is to convince the current industrial base that this change is in all of our best interests. I don't know how that can be done; however, I do know that it will be done. That is what is stated in this prophecy from The Book of Revelations:
For whatever it is worth. There is always comfort and encouragement when we see the light at the end of the tunnel.meglomaniac ~ Excellent point! Excessive population growth is directly responsible for not only climate change but many of our major social ills. There is no reason for it to be so out of hand. We've allowed our species to become a Cancer on the face of the planet. Just like unchecked Cancer in the body out of control growth strips the body of all its natural resources and the whole organism along with the Cancer perishes; and, so it is with unchecked population growth and the planet. We should be planning to control this epidemic instead of simply feeding it for profit. Another example of the importance of Planned Parenthood and conception control technologies. Another example of our Government not doing it's job. Thanks for pointing that out my friend!
Yes I agree the storms are man made, and it is time for a responsible news group such as your selves to look into the geoengineering programs of the last forty years. A catastrophic experiment to control the weather that has been hijacked by the military and corporations to enhance their other projects. GMO foods patented by Monsanto to grow in high level aluminum soils, the mining of the worlds resources (melt the arctic for more fossil fuels ), monopolies and control of our insurance, control of food production by using droughts and floods, and the control of the futures market in farming are all making a few people a lot of money. Thom you are so fully into solar power, why is Dane Wigington from the award winning documentary "Why in the World are They Spraying" claiming we have an over 20% reduction in sunlight? Please ask him. Our rain water tests here in New Zealand have positive results for aluminum, barium and strontium. Get your own done from independent labs, the cost is about $50. Find out whose cloud you are under. Ours are sprayed from aircraft on a regular basis.
Basically, it's already too late to prevent superstorms, or their getting worse. The tipping point has passed. The best we can do now is to end enough of the CO2 pollution to return to the "old normal" over the next 200 years or so. It took that long to get here.
The Rich Country Club
What can be thought of as a world leadership approach for our problems not addressed at all by the Media? The G8 is an annual forum for the leaders of eight of the richest and most powerful countries in the world to discuss economic and political issues. In an article by the
www.tangledwilderness.org
Strangers in a Tangled Wilderness is an interesting read, Title is “The Robber Barons”.
also a video by Amory Lovins a natural capitalist.
http://www.globalissues.org/video/732/amory-lovins-natural-capitalism
Two things captured attention in global warming and a new way to teach engineering is suggested but not presented. Remember my passion to understand derivatives are the key player in engineering. Something new is happening; something is taking shape in the approach to engineering training techniques different than decades ago. The reasons why the University system is opening courseware online all over, some kind of change is taking place.
Tangled Wilderness says:
“The G8 has appointed itself the central forum for global governance. The decisions made at the annual summits have come to shape key decisions in the management of global political and economic affairs. With their combined economic, military, and diplomatic power and influence, the nations of the G8 have tremendous influence over institutions of global governance and economics.”
There is the G20 too, and their take on climate change;
“Climate change is real and it’s barreling down on us. And how are these unelected leaders of the world handling it? By advocating market solutions. By claiming that we can just buy and sell the right to pollute on a global market, so that the rich retain their right to destroy everything. Sounds like something the rich would do…It’s pretty simple to understand that it’s largely giant industrialized infrastructure that got us into this mess and that it doesn’t make a ton of sense to ask those same people how they think we should get out of it. Yet the G20 asks people like free market capitalist Amory Lovin to be the advisor on climate issues, a guy whose resume includes work for Coca-Cola, Walmart, Shell, Monsanto, Lockheed Martin, and the Department of Defense.”
So, couple that with the latest C Span conference on Consumption is what many should think can be a good sense what is happening. A striking example to population expansion was talked about. The element that jumped out at me was the population growth in the world which is moving at the rate or size of a New York City every six weeks. That is something; the demand for goods and services is increasing very fast, especially energy needs are not going down but up. Food clothes place to live every six weeks a new, New York is in demand. Very interesting, wonder if they all have a Mr. Bloomberg.
Actually the frequency of the most severe tornadoes – that is, F3 and above – has been declining during a supposed period of warming temperatures. See the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration article titled “Low Tornado Numbers and Low Tornado Deaths, May 2012-April 2013” at the following url: http://www.norman.noaa.gov/2013/05/low-tornado-numbers-and-low-tornado-deaths-may-2012-april-2013/. To view a long term chart of the data from 1954 through 2012, to to the following url: https://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi/status/336874506922651648/photo/1.The NOAA data is very impressive and speaks to the scientific facts – not feelings or political inclinations.
Even if we do something, it will probably still get worse, although I don't think that inevitability should stop us from trying. The earth is warm enough now that the ice caps will melt, the sea will rise, and the acidification of the oceans will severely deplete our food supply. Add to that the supply of carbon dioxide and methane that will enter the atmosphere from the melting permafrost, and the thawing of the frozen methane crystals in the deep sea and we have another Permian extinction on the way. That's if we stop all smokestacks and petroleum exhaust fumes right now. We will have more than just extreme weather events. We will have climate refugees. Bangladesh, for instance will suffer severe floods. Those that aren't killed will be looking for safety elsewhere. Residents of the Maldives have been in negotiations with India for ideas to move when the seas cover those islands, and New Orleans is a sitting duck unless they get a whole lot of Dutch ingenuity over here to help them hold back the sea. Even the Netherlands, after all these years of winning the fight, is worried. One thing we should certainly be looking at is making ourselves safer or more prepared for climate misfortune. All my Mormon relatives have been keeping a year's worth of food in stock as a matter of tradition. Some of them have even bought waterbeds to store fresh water! Many Californians have earthquake kits and rope ladders. Here in Seattle, we have been told we should have at least 3-4 days of provisions in case something awful happens - because, most likely, we will lose bridges over various waterways around the area. Changes in climate have added to the fall of many empires, the impetus for massive migrations, and the extinction of many forms of life on this planet. We should not presume that we are somehow different.
historywriter ~ BTW. In the past I have been more that critical of you. I have evoked the condemnation of others, most notably, Outback, in this tirade. I would like to apologize on behave of myself and Outback. I have drastically underestimated you; and, for that reason, I want to apologize. In the future I hope that together we can help sculpt the betterment of mankind. I'm trully sorry if I offended you in any way!
historywriter ~ Who could argue with that? No!! We should be treating this as a war. The greatest war that has ever been fought. The reason that we don't is obviously greed. Let us realize that our survival is our ultimate goal and not financial profit. Let us explore the future of the human race and not the demise of such. God bless humanity!!
We don't have to wait to see the consequences of global warming. It's in the headlines every day. Devastating and unusal numbers of tornadoes. Frequent floods (the flood of the century, happening every few years). Drought in other parts of the country. Forest and grass fires destroying houses. The hottest temperatures recorded, ever, over the last 10+ years.
What are you waiting for? And what are you doing? We should be treating this like a war, with all resources and planning and technology that we can think of thrown into the battle. If we recycle once a week, we think we're doing our part. Do you know how many gallons of gas are discharged into the air by a flight from California to New York? You can't try to save enough in the environment to make up the difference.
I think it's likely we are screwed.
Well, look at it this way...eventually the storms will get severe enough to kill millions of people with each storm; the global human population will decrease substantially; the amount of human caused damage to the enviroment will decrease; and eventually everything will return to normal. Mother Nature always finds a way to reduce an over-breeding species.
And we're helping Her.
delster ~ You raise a great point! Perhaps we should just wait and let the chips fall where they may. After all this bunch of petroleum fueled NeoCons will never acknowledge any problems created by their constituents until they are directly affected. It behooves us to allow the natural evolution of life to proceed according to its divine plan, no? Allow Mother Nature to dictate our actions in the future. All of our efforts combined will do nothing to influence the current paradigm. Most unfortunate, indeed; however, apparently a necessity. Let us pray the influences of Mother Earth trump the big money influences of the petroleum industry.
While the results of global warming is most identifiable with the midwest for the current time what terrible events may other regions experience in months to come ? I really can't imagine all the rest of us get off easy. There are bound to be events. In consideration of the economy we will suffer what might be described as unsustainable economic catastrophes for which the rich just may have to belly up to the bar and help out with a tax hike. Seems only fair and reasonable.
My Mother: 1913-2012 also!
Sadly, the ability of the average person to link a major storm with long-term climate change is questionable. Not entirely wrong; saying one caused the other is a very difficult connection to make even for experts, since so many variables are at play. One needs to look at long-term trends over a century or more, and of course that's when you lose the public, not to mention politicans. My mother (1913-2012) said she saw a real change in New York City's climate, but how many people can wait that long? It will have to get a lot worse before we reach a "social tipping point" and make substantive changes in what we are doing to a climate that has also passed it's tipping point....
at-a-boy!!! You did your home work. Now share the info with your friends, familey, and co-workers.
I also found Jill Stein to be a good choice for President. I actually campaigned for Rocky Anderson in my town. For 4 straight months all I did was talk to people about Rocky Anderson. I even had a 5 min conversation with a volunteer for the Obama campaign about why I was going to caste my vote for Rocky Anderson. Of course he did as instructed and tried to scare me by saying that a vote like that would just be in favor of Mitt Romney. I of course replyed by saying that I wasn't concerned with such nonsense rehtoric and that either way (Obama or Romney) we would end up with just another Wall St. puppet. BY that point I just calmly hung up the phone and went back to masterbating!
MMmmNACHOS ~ I looked up both Jill and Rocky and they both would make outstanding Presidents. Personally I had to lean a little more toward Rocky because of his bureaucratic experience serving already two terms as the Mayor of Salt Lake City. However, If I were to dig deeper, his political, anti-war activism, dedication to investigating the Bush Administration for war crimes and closing Gitmo, his ability to lower carbon emissions in Salt Lake City by 31%, and his overall commitment to the environment, human rights, and the Constitution would win my vote easily. After hearing his statement to the judiciary committee in 2008 concerning Impeachment proceedings against the Bush Administration he won my heart. Rocky Anderson of the Justice Party. I won't soon forget that name.
DAM you make a very good point...I'll expand on it.
First voting isn't so much about "parties". More so it's about exercising our Democratic Rights and sending a message as to what We the People want; which in a nut shell is leadership that protects and enforces our Constitution...Is representative of We the People, and protects our Liberties and Civil Rights, (in general our wellbeing).
Unfortunatly we are seeing less and less "good leaders" from either side. Hence why sooooooo many people, Left and Right, feel they are NOT being represented by their party; more registered Republicans and Democrats voted for a 3rd party during this last election than every before. And even though that didn't get much - if any - attention from mainstream media...Career politicians got the memo.
What We the People need to do now is our homework and make sure we show up for the mid-term elections...The message we send will prime the 2016 elections.
Keep in mind for 2016; Rocky Anderson of the Justice party, and Jill Stein of the Green Party. And yes DAM, B. Sanders is great leader and a true representative of the American People...He listens, and he is our bull horn. And though I would vote for him if he ran for President (as an Independent), I am not sure he would be able to continue to live up to his reputation, but that is me just being synical after 40 years of being anally raped by the Corporate hijacking of the U.S. Government.
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