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Father Brennigan and the Weatherman used violence in protesting the Vietnam "conflict". Should left wing organizations been banned. How about MLK? Even though he preached non-violence he was a radical in the minds of many. A terrorist in the mind of a few. When he spoke out against US involvement in Vietnam the government thought him somebody worthy of a jail cell and even J Edgar and his henchmen attempted to coerce and blackmail him into killing himself. If we punish hate groups for what they think and say, would we be any different from big brother and the thought police? Deter and punish evil deeds before resorting to mictuating on the Bill of Rights in general and the first ammendment in particular. Otherwise we really are living in post-constitutional America. SIEG HEIL!! PROGRESSIVE STYLE!!!!
Just take a look at the recent news in Texas regarding the assassination of prosecutors by am alleged right wing hate group.
On your show earlier, there was a mention of Hitler and the dangers of cults gaining power. In Germany the danger was compounded by the fact that after WWI, the people were literally starving in a crashed economy. They were willing to listen to anyone who promised jobs and an end to poverty. This is how the Nazis gained power. With our own economy on shakey ground these days, I believe it's imparitive to keep watch on the hate groups.
No surprise that witless disingenuous (D) corporate party "progressives" don't consider the FBI itself to be a terrorist organization.
FBI:
Federal Bombing Instigators, provisioning bombers to arrest them, in order to make dissidents fear other dissidents
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Nuclear Profit Plants should be shut down. They are inherently unsafe. None should be operating until a method is designed to neutralize the waste materials that are piling up around them. The waste piles are as dangerous as the operating rods. These nuclear profit plants produce thousands of tons of radioactive waste material every year. There is no known method of safely storing or neutralizing this waste. If we produced laws that required those who owned nuclear profit plants to live within five miles of the plants they would close in a week. The nuclear power plants that fuel submarines and aircraft carriers are safer because the folks who operate them live on the vessel; they have skin in the game. Today we have billionaire owners who do not live with the zip code of the power plants calling the shots for everyone else.
Spending enough time out in the sun to get skin cancer is a personal choice. Being downwind of a major nuclear disaster is not - radiation crosses national boundaries and oceans.
Why is it that conservativews such as Mr Flynn focus so much on the symptoms (The homeless in Libraraies) but ignore the causes (lack of mental healthcare, living wages and economic disparity)?
They were Bush and Cheney.They lied and killed over 5,000 americans and 100,000 Iranians. The right wing is much more ratical then those two.
They were Bush and Cheney they lied and killed over 5,000 americans and 100,000 Iranians. The right wing is much more ratical then those two.
On the other hand, more people have gotten skin cancer (and more people died) from the sun than from nuclear power plants. And even wind farms have not gone without complaints from some people who fear that the rotating blades kill birds. Just can't win with some people! Maybe the philosophy of 'nuke a baby whale for Jesus' will win out. Nuclear energy wouldn't be so bad (dangerous) if profit mongers weren't allowed to cut corners on safety. But, as Lenin said: "A capitalist will sell you the rope to himself with". But before you can make the world safe, you have to control the capitalist's selfish and greedy ambitions. And that won't happen until the people take back government from those greedsters (both Republicans and many Democrats).
As Robert Scheer wrote in his article "Treason of the Intellectuals" yesterday: Even the "left-leaning" intellectuals have sold us out. Those who have posed as liberals were all for the Iraq war, in the beginning, largely because they had no backbone to stand up to the might of the war mongering (patriotic?) right-wingers. 10 years after Iraq, many are now trying to pose excuses why they were all "tricked" into supporting the Iraq war. Many of these opportunists avoided being "under the gun" for personal and political gain. And now, they are trying to wiggle out from under their (now unpopular) positions. Makes me wonder how many so-called "liberals" are, even now, acting like the conniving Inn-Keeper ('Master of the House') characters in Les Miserables, or the slimy, slippery character (Smeagol/Gollum) in Lord of the Rings.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_treason_of_the_intellectuals_201...
There is a lot of outrage over HR 933 - Sec. 735. It was slipped into the larger bill overnight and was signed into law. That alone is a dasterdly deed. But, what does Sec. 735 say, exactly? Are measures like CA Prop 37 now moot and/or contestable in court? Does it really prevent GMO products from being labeled? Here it is. You decide...
HR 933 –Sec. 735
8 SEC. 735. In the event that a determination of non
9 regulated status made pursuant to section 411 of the Plant
10 Protection Act is or has been invalidated or vacated, the
11 Secretary of Agriculture shall, notwithstanding any other
12 provision of law, upon request by a farmer, grower, farm
13 operator, or producer, immediately grant temporary per
14 mit(s) or temporary deregulation in part, subject to nec
15 essary and appropriate conditions consistent with section
16 411(a) or 412(c) of the Plant Protection Act, which interim
17 conditions shall authorize the movement, introduction, con
18 tinued cultivation, commercialization and other specifically
19 enumerated activities and requirements, including meas
20 ures designed to mitigate or minimize potential adverse en
21 vironmental effects, if any, relevant to the Secretary’s eval
22 uation of the petition for non-regulated status, while ensur
23 ing that growers or other users are able to move, plant, cul
24 tivate, introduce into commerce and carry out other author
25 ized activities in a timely manner: Provided, That all such
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1 conditions shall be applicable only for the interim period
2 necessary for the Secretary to complete any required anal
3 yses or consultations related to the petition for non-regu
4 lated status: Provided further, That nothing in this section
5 shall be construed as limiting the Secretary’s authority
6 under section 411, 412 and 414 of the Plant Protection Act.
† HR 933 EAS
Happy Easter to you, Kend. Thanks for staying with us.
Very nicely thought out. I agree people are waking up, but way too slowly as usual.
If all countries are going to follow the practices of germany then there's a high chance that the percentage of unemployment of all countries will drop. Some countries just don't care about their countrymen starving for food while the greedy politicians are busy on expanding their reigns in their positions.
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Here is a good example of “to big to be useful”. Which is exactly complimentary in “to big to fail”. My argument goes deeper into a long existing use of the common cancer causing hazmat fertilizer called Anhydrous Ammonia. Cows, and other animals graze at the ground root there potentially high levels of hazmat are ingested. True, most corn grown this way is destine for ethanol processing, but it is a wide open range market where that corn is mixed in consumer products at unknown levels.
Commonly used throughout America as a fertilizer to grow corn, soybeans, wheat, etc. used in chicken feed, cow food, and on every label characterized as high fructose sugar. This hazmat put into the soil annually for decades.
My argument is that American soil is permutated or mixed with a carcinogen which directly or indirectly causes cancer. Sort of a second hand smoke. Besides Monsanto’s genetic theater of pushing the derivative to uncharted boundaries mixed in the a secret way conjuring Congressional monopoly money market games, reveals obnoxiously how “big business that is not useful” positions themselves for a bailout if their reasoning is wrong. Banksters, science slicksters, insurance providers, and money market managers all privy to the risk assessment formulas, then hand mid America the healthcatastrophe bill should be a crime of first degree murder, intentional homicide.
The huge CEO payout typify the reasoning that those at the head of corporations keep their mouth shout, even within a disaster like mentally or medical claims that do characterize intention medical industry profiteering. Eisenhower was right about the military industrial complex, he just did not mention it is surrounded by the medical corruption too. All of which is part of America’s problems in spending. Yes it’s spending but it’s spending on corruption that needs resolve.
Here is another gift from Monsato. Those farm raised salmon in cages in the ocean are being preyed on by sea lice. The answer by the corporations are to dose it with new chemicals. Known neuro-toxins are being transmitted into the fish. Buy wild caught salmon only.
We all know what has been going on since "Silent Spring" by Rachel Carson. They bought the legislators to protect them. They bought a supreme court to make them a person. Now the corporation can patent a natural substance by mutating it. We have mutant pulp blobs where once were real trees just by alterating the gene with lignan. They want to isolate certain cannabanoids from cannabis. Anyone growing with their patent cannabanoids will face civil court action. A continuation on the war on cannabis by the corporations. They defeated the right to know of GMO's here in CA. Money is speech now and they have even a bigger voice. Ours will be by consumer action. Buy organic only or Newman products. Support equal rights for agricultural workers.
Happy Easter everyone.
Thom
My husband told me about Friday's conversation. Might I suggest that organization be called Big packers Tiny peckers!
I should apologize for my unkind words about Thom. I know he does call attention to some serious issues, as with the creepy Monsanto legislation. It's just that getting people all riled up about gun control and gay rights just compounds the media's obfuscation of the bigger issues such as endless warfare (not just drones, but "empire building") and the systematic brutalization of the middle class and the poor by the 1%. I feel there are frequently larger issues to be discussed, but anyone willing to take on the big problems, if only occasionally, is doing good work. So I retract my mean words of yesterday.
HalFonts, you're one of the others here I've enjoyed reading. Sorry to see you go, but I agree completely with your comments. And you're right; spring is in the air. Time to take a few deep breaths of fresh air! Have fun in the garden, friend....
So everybody is bailing. Maybe it's my fault, without me To kick around it probably does get boring. Sorry I have being busy expanding to the west coast.
Look, with all do respect liberals look at the Obama, Poelosi, and Reid as God like figures. The hold them to no accountability and when they do corrupt things like slipping this law through your shocked. All three have a combined wealth of 52 million dollars. How do you think the make their money. And you are surprised when bills like this get passed. Wake up..
As a beekeeper and organic farmer and someone who lives with Monsanto's Round-Up chemicals in the air and water and on the ground and killing my bees, I find this news upsetting but not surprising--damning Monsanto is a fulltime job for me--and one I'd like to win for myself and the rest of humanity.
I've read and seen horror stories here and abroad about Monsanto bullying farmers. In India, the farmers are forced to buy expensive Monsanto seed every year, Monsanto chemicals, and expensive farm equipment. Many commit suiside because they find themselves in debt and cannot get back out. The promise of a better living for those farmers does not exist. Here the farmers complain of the same things--but they need the balls to stand up and say NO MORE. How many people have to die from pancreactic cancer around here before someone does something significant?
In Ohio, there are more and more bills that protect business--laws/amendments added to our state Constitution. Isn't government supposed to protect human beings from invading sources, both foreign and domestic?
Hey folks, I just discovered this blog a few months ago, finding a little cornor of intelligent commentary among folks who could hold strong opinions while agreeing to disagree. Lord knows we need such. It's been good.
Now suddenly I'm seeing a Spring Break -- at least that's my hope. "A Spring Break" . . . yes, perhaps that's it. Time to cultivate my garden, get my hands in the soil, sprout some new seeds. Re-boot life on our Earth.
Actually, after a long intense 2012 year of political nonsense --apparently continuing now unabated, even more intense.-- I'm considering my next retirement. (Do I really need all this political crap in my life?). Every day my Inbox overflows with several dozen solicitations from strangers panhandling spare-change. These are folks mostly doing nothing about my #1 issue: "Mega-money Corruption of Everything" -- -- -- other than feeding at the expanded hog-trough.
Can it be that it's simply more than we can handle? Day after day one atrocity after another; cause after cause after cause. Paid professionals vs, a Children's Crusaide of amateurs? Where will it end?
Spring is in the wind, the last shards of snow are melting; the first flowers are budding. And, as life begins anew, any day now I'expect to see Genetically Modified Manure advertised at Wal-Mart for their "New Improved Modular Plastic Dung Heap" (Made in China).
It's not going away; but folks ARE gettin it. Left and Right are saying the same things -- "It ain't working." We People/Patriots are gonna have to deal with it one way or 'tother, sooner or later.
Thanks to all who's opinions I respect. We're waking up; but it's tough, damned tough -- and we're way-behind playing catch-up. Best wishes, see you in the streets..
Well DAnneMarc, you're one of the last I'd have expected to bail out. I would encourage your to stick around, because we need a few critical thinkers here, but I believe it's a lost cause. And did Nachos say he was leaving as well? Double bummer! With you two and Alice gone, I'll have little choice but to follow shortly. But if that's the way it works out, so be it....
There's one thing I would like to have seen developed more fully and that's Thom Hartmann's role in this mess. Mr H is idolized on this blog; nothing but adulation. He throws out his pearls (before swine) for discussion, but in my opinion, his choice of topics for discussion fall far short of what a person enjoying his profile could advance. A very good example is the recent focus on the SCOTUS deliberations on gay marriage. Your recent comments on the Gaussian curve of sexual orientation notwithstanding, DM, this is a very, very minor issue. The bigger issues tower above gay rights, because we're literally talking about life and death.
So Mr. Hartmann writes a couple of parageraphs three times a week to get us all scrambling, but in the final analysis it's mainly hyperbole, as in, "shouldn't we be doing more to to honor the rights of the poor downtrodden gays?", while (as one poster asked) is Rome still burning? In the meantime, if you pay attention to the sidebars, the man is busy selling vitamins. In my opinion, Thom Hartmann is a huckster and a snake oil salesman, and this disgusts me. But then again, this is just my opinion.
In any case DM , Nachos, I think I'm out of here too. It's been nice bantering with you guys. Have a great life and I'll see you somewhere and sometime else agein, perhaps.
Sayonara.
Who were the Senators who introduced this gift to Monsanto? That is the type of information that is useful.