Well no, big government amassing big debts for more wars will continue because the corporate party's Republicans and Democrats regularly join in firm solidarity together to criminally provide the 99% who affirmatively vote to continue having a corporate-state with a massive military that roams the world mugging poor people living over rich resources... while refusing to stop the constant growth consumer economy that caused climate change.
There's nothing more despicable than a corporate party (D) voter pretending to be a good person.
Until this business with Virginia and Pennsylvania, I would have welcomed a change from the unit rule to the Congressional-district method (don't call it proportional) of choosing Presidential electors. I hadn't realized just how skewed the outcome could be.
I really need to put up the exact wording for my system of objective districting. If someone (nudge, nudge) then publicizes it, Democratic legislators in every state will have something to work from. What I have is specifically written as an amendment to the Colorado constitution, so citations of articles and sections would need to be changed. Moreover, coastal states would have to insert some provision for determining whether a waterway makes two counties non-adjacent.
In 2010, Florida voters approved amendments 5 and 6 -- against the Republican legislature/governor's will -- that dictate that congressional and state legislative districts must be drawn compactly, following natural barriers and countie lines, and cannot be drawn to favor a party: The resulting sections of the state constituion are quoted below. I know this caused much consternation among the Republicans who run our state (despite being a minority of voters state-wide). I am not sure how much effect it has had to date -- but the web site of the group that pushed the ballot measures looks interesting: http://fairdistrictsnow.org/home/
"SECTION 20. Standards for establishing congressional district boundaries.—In establishing congressional district boundaries:
(a) No apportionment plan or individual district shall be drawn with the intent to favor or disfavor a political party or an incumbent; and districts shall not be drawn with the intent or result of denying or abridging the equal opportunity of racial or language minorities to participate in the political process or to diminish their ability to elect representatives of their choice; and districts shall consist of contiguous territory.(b) Unless compliance with the standards in this subsection conflicts with the standards in subsection 1(a) or with federal law, districts shall be as nearly equal in population as is practicable; districts shall be compact; and districts shall, where feasible, utilize existing political and geographical boundaries."
The Congressional-district method of choosing Presidential electors is the easiest way of getting away from the unit rule (the rule that all electoral votes in the state go to one candidate), because so far as I know (based on my experience in Colorado), that's already how the individual electors are chosen.
Each party has meetings for each district of each type in every election year for the respective office. At the Congressional district meetings, the delegates choose the party's candidate for that district, and in years divisible by 4, they also choose a Presidential elector. Then at the state party convention, the delegates choose the other two electors that the state is entitled to by Article I, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution. It doesn't have to be done this way, but it's the easiest way to let people in every part of the state have equal input.
Of course, if each state simply chose how to allocate the votes directly, rather than choosing people who then cast the votes, the unit rule could be avoided in any number of ways, one of which was put on the ballot in Colorado in 2000 or 2004 (I forget which).
It is so hard to get people to understand the true nature of these "Republicans", and the extent that they have tried to manipulate and steal control of this country for their own gain. It is getting harder and harder now too; I used to listen to KPOJ in Portland and it is no longer on the air. Almost simultaneously with the elcetion of President Obama to his second term, it was replaced with a Fox (no less) Sports talk station.
I will do all that I can; I try to talk on Facebook about the need to keep informed, and question not only Republicans and their leadership, but to keep an eye on the Democrats also, but it seems that less and less people are engaged. It is so sad that only Clinton and Obama have been able to keep control of the whitehouse for more than 4 years. How can we get people more informed and involved?.
Kend, let's play a game. I call it the republican game.
You be the democrat, and I'll be the republican.
I sneak up behind you and drive my humvee over you. Then I roll down the window and yell, "Blame y'self! Good golly willikers, would you just get up and quit feeling sorry for yourself?"
Then, when you try to get up, I run over you again, and I yell, "Hey! You're embarrassing yourself down there. Would you get up on your own two feet, or are you going to lay there until the government gives you a handout? Why, if I was as lazy as you, I would never have been able to afford this humvee."
Then I run over you again. And then I yell, "Great gibbering fascists! You dented my bumper! I blame you for that!"
Wasn't that fun? Let's play it over and over and over and over and over and over, for thirty years. Then you will be able to answer your own question; you will know why democrats have not yet been able to fix the problems that republicans have caused.
Quote ken ware: "What does Afghanistan have that Bush wanted so bad, that would prompt him to kill 3,000 people and destroy the Towers and almost the Pentagon?"
One of several reasons was the proposed pipeline through Afghanistan that the Taliban in Afghanistan were refusing to cooperate with the US on. Our State Department representatives and oil people gave them an ultimatum that amounted to a declaration of war: "Accept our carpet of gold...or expect a carpet of bombs!"
Another was that Afghanistan was harboring Usama bin Laden and Al Qaida, who had, they believed, been behind some Embassy bombings and the bombing of the USS Cole... The Khobar Towers bombing in Dharan, Saudi Arabia...etc. And then there was the rift between Saddam Husein, who had threatened little Bush's daddy and threatened to get off the dollars for oil standard (would have been very terrible for the US..and other OPEC nations are considering just that..wrecking the US economy and superiority and ability to get other countries to pay for America's wars..like China).
And it wasn't just Bush anyway...it was the same forces that now controls Obama...it was the plutocratic forces behind him who wanted control of Middle East oil and a way to squeeze 90% of Americans out of their wealth..increased taxes to the lower classes and destroy social programs. It facilitated the cover up of decades of criminal business practices...took away people's liberties and freedoms and any say in bringing these criminals to justice. Justice?..9/11 destroyed that.
Just like Peal Harbor...where FDR needed a way to break the American people out of their refusal to go along with going to war.. so they followed the McCollum plan to push Japan to attack us. The plan was to antagonize Japan to the breaking point that they really had little other choice but to attack. In effect, the US declared war on Japan first but using antagonist actions that could be more covert than an all out declaration of war. Japan was also trying to expand it's influences and control over that part of the world..Operation Golden Lily (sacking of the far east), Nanking beheadings, Manchurian Biological warfare experimentation...was much to be concerned about. But what was it that really made Japan such an aggressive country? What was the root of the problem? You probably know...being the history buff you are. Why do school kids shoot other kids in school? The feeling that they've been excluded, ostracized, made fun of, treated unfairly, made to feel inferior, pushed into a corner by arrogant bullies. And when you finally do fight back, say with an AK-47 and you manage to kill a lot more than just the original bullies, you are deemed a wacko...which you probably are by now anyway. So why does our system create such wackos to begin with? Maybe we should start questioning and reforming our system that creates wackos.
Many US actions against Arab nations have a long history of being antagonistic against them and when they try to fight back, in any way they can, the US finds a way to break their American citizens out of their anti-war sentiments. They create a false flag...everything from throwing down a red carpet for these 20 so-called 'hijackers' to get into the country (only the last 'hijacker' was stopped by a border control agent who wouldn't 'play the game' as set down by his chain of command). Training them at flight schools. Having a military exercise including the scenario of the WTC towers and the Pentagon being hit by hijacked planes (this is done so that the confusion would be enough to make those who aren't in on the actual attack think it was just a drill).
Ken, you must speak Arabic fluently. How else would you have understood what Usama bin Laden was saying about 9/11? Usama bin Laden also had many doubles...how do you know that the one that you heard was the real one? How do you know that what he said was what you were told he said? There are very easy ways to dub in voices in videos as well. How can we really believe anything that these organizations like the CIA, NSA, or even the military has to present in the way of evidence when they have the ability to create any audio/visual presentation they want. I mean if they can fake a picture of Oswald standing and holding a rifle they can certainly fake a voice saying anything in Arabic, even if one can understand Arabic, and most certainly can mis-translate what is being said. Millions of frightened, xenophobic Americans are more than willing to believe what they are told he said.
If our country was willing to sacrifice the many, many more deaths by sending troops over to die in the Middle East then why would anyone doubt that these same people would sacrifice several thousand people in a false flag operation? What they got was, to them, well worth the sacrifice...to them...but not to our country..to the rest of us.
And there is even the remote possibility that the US has been playing a grand chess game from the very beginning in order to control the world's oil. Their plan: create the illusion that there are 'terrorist operations' that go around bombing embassies, ships, and barracks, etc... that reinforces their propaganda that we have to be afraid, very afraid of 'terrorists'...especially Radical Muslim terrorists. This all creates the fears and hatreds in the world's subjects...especially American subjects...that, and the grand finale of bringing the WTC towers down, and hitting the Pentagon, as a final statement as to why we needed to invade the Middle East allowed for the eventual unprovoked and illegal invasion and control of the Middle East oil fields.
ken ware: crazy? well, maybe there's a little 'crazy' in all of us and it leaks out sometimes!
Aliceinwonderland: Great idea! Just shut off my ringer and just check my device periodically, for who called, and call them back if I want to speak to them.
I understand the right of the people to protect themselves against unjust government control. But what about the fact that these guns are in the mean time turned against fellow citizens? What is your solution for that fact, in light of your recommending high ownership of military weapons to 'protect' citizens? The people's right to uphold their democratic principles thru battle level ballistic weapons should be contained within citizens' militia, and not within private ownership. No private gun owner should need or own the ballistic capacity to take out crowds of private citizens in a sweep of sprayed ammunition.
Global...In response to your statement; "We must resist government domination..."
Countrys uneasy,
feeling betrayed.
We the people are paying
for the mistakes others have made.
The time is coming
for us to realize;
We must break out from
these corrupt government ties.
We must resist the urge for power.
Who can you trust?
Who is in control?
History shows us
all governments do decline;
From healthy ideas,
which in time are tread upon.
Let us begin to learn
from the mistakes of the past.
Change our way of thinking
so people and planet last.
KEYLAWK, Where are you from???
No disrespect to you as a person, but I find your perspective sophmoric, even down right idiotic!
Please share your confidence...How does President Obamney have your communities best intrests at heart.
Please explain how/why you think Obamney is not serving a plutocrate agenda?
Imaude - Not being an economist I can't refute MMT in technical terms, but common sense would dictate that at some point simply printing more money, without bound, would eventually devaluate our currency to zero through inflation. I read everything Paul Krugman writes on our fiscal policy and view his as the the most reasonable voice in the field. There is a balance to be had between spending for stimulus and outright irresponsible spending. What the issue really boils down to is priorities. When either political party speaks of our fiscal jeopardy, the first words out of their mouths relate to "entitlement" spending, spending on social programs, raising more revenue to support our spending, etc. When the numbers are tossed around the units are always expressed in saving tens or hundreds of billions of dollars over the next decade. If my math is correct, saving $700 billion over a decade translates to saving $70 billion a year. That's a big number, but is absolutely dwarfedby the $Trillion plus we currently spend on so called "defense" and those expendatures are accelerating. Do you suppose there's a reason why there is no discussion of this by either Obama or his antagonists? It's been frequently mentioned that the US spends more on "defense" than the next fifteen countries on the planet combined. This includes all of the "rich" nations plus China and Russia. If we cut back on defense spending by even a modest twenty percent over time we could solve all the rest of our fiscal problems within a generation, or so I've read. But no, this doesn't align with the priorities of those who gain materially by maintaining a constant state of fear, ignorance and support for our current policies and control those who execute those policies. So no, Imaude, I don't think firing up the printing presses is going to get us out of this. As Joe Friendly indicated above, we need to create a whole new social mindset in this country. Everything I've read about empires that have reached this state of decay, however, tells me that this will be no easy task. Sorry to be such a constant party pooper :-(
David Abbott,
Your naivete is showing! "...But he is not as bad a corporatist as Bush/Chenny were or as bad as Romney Ryan would have been...But there is still a chance that Obama will be more proactive in doing what he said he would do."
KEN WARE...Most people of your generation have a difficult time wraping their head around the accusation that "your" government would plot such a deadly event like 9/11.
The main reason for this is infact based on generation ideology. Most people are patriotic without question. It's how were raised..."If the U.S. is 'doing it' than it must be Just". History - if you read the books that tell the truth - shows us that the majority of the time, most people resist going to war.
It strikes me as sad that you - a Vietnam Vet - has such a hard time understanding "why" & "how" a corrupt and greedy Empire would enact such evil upon innocent people, even its own.
WAKE-UP MAN! You aren't unAmerican if you question the government. You aren't unPatriotic for not beating the War Machine Drum.
The American Government is Of, For, and By the People. It is not only our Right to question the government of suspect and unjust actions it is our duty.
Patriatism is the last refuge for the scoundrel.
Lastly you are right Ken...Bush and didn't single handly plot 9/11; the Goons he worked for did.
I listen to your show just about every day and would love to hear you interview an economist that has an alternative view of our monetary system. Her name is Stephanie Kelton. She is an Assistant Professor at UMKC and blogs at New Economic Perspectives. She, along with others at the school and elsewhere promote a school of thought referred to as Modern Monetary Theory. Basically, it is a new way to look at money and government debt. I recently attended a presentation she made to the Financial Planners Association and was very pleased to see many shaking their heads in agreement as she explained how our monetary system works. I assure you, her explanation is easy to understand and your audience would be very receptive. If I were to sum up Modern Monetary Theory (or MMT) in a few sentences I would go to a colleague of Stephanie Kelton who developed the theory;
"Federal government spending is in no case
operationally constrained by revenues, meaning
that there is no “solvency risk.” In other words,
the federal government can always make any and all
payments in its own currency, no matter how large
the deficit is, or how few taxes it collects" ~ Warren Mosler, Seven Deadly Innocent Frauds of Economic Policy
The important underpinning of this is that the U.S. is a sovereign currency that acts like we are on the gold standard when we are not. Stephanie Kelton is an excellent proponent of this and will bring a perspective to our economic system that will change the conversation. Her blog is New Economic Perspectives and on twitter she is known as @deficitowl Please, please, please, have her on your show. I promise you will not regret it.
Had more...ALL...of those who cast "fear votes" for Obama or Romney and joined those who voted couragously for Jill Stein...At the very least the next 4 years would be different - a change in course - than I have ever know. Good or Bad...We'll never know; at least not for another 4 years.
I think not. I think that with determined, with strong leadership, the President has staked out his vision and the Republicans as political wing of the uber class never let us forget theirs, I expect some achievement these first two years of his second term but most will occur in 24 months when Americans send a majority of Dems to the House and a super majority to the Senate. Then will he cement his legacy and set the stage for the unprecedented election of the next Democratic President of the United States. I can wait.
We need to actually prepare for a peaceful revolution, so the people can eventually, ceremoniously, withdraw their consent from a corrupt and obsolete government and economic system, after first accomplishing a talking thru of an alternative set of institutions, complete with an alternative economic system based on respecting full human dignity, transparency, sustainability.
I propose we push for a government in waiting to conduct such a new national narrative, with folks onboard like Thom Hartmann, Amy Goodman, Bill Moyers, Chris Hedges, Jim HIghtower, Barbara Ehrenreich, Melissa Harris-Perry, . . .
We need to rescue our culture from the commercial mentality which is inherently lacking in morality, and aim for a moral, rational, and just social order.
Revolution by discussion and articulation, the next step for Occupy.
DAnneMarc - I listened to your solo performance with your guitar, but somehow I thought you were referring to the cat! Sometimes things go right over my head without me realizing it! No I was not being sarcastic.
Palindromdary - I believe Bush is capable of doing just about anything to start a war. But the risk to benefit calculations seems that the payoff of starting a war by killing thousands and blaming it on Bin Laden just does not make sense to me. Even Bin Laden said he was surprised when his plan killed so many people. Claiming Saddam Hussein was trying to build a nuke and we had proof when Bush didn't is one thing, but to believe Bush and his gang planned and actually was responsible for the destruction on 9-11 is too far for me to reach in my logic. The war in Afghanistan started in Oct. 2001. What does Afghanistan have that Bush wanted so bad, that would prompt him to kill 3,000 people and destroy the Towers and almost the Pentagon? The fourth airliner was headed for the White House when the passengers helped bring it down in a field. I just cannot connect the dots on this one.
Kend - Stranger things have happened than you agreeing with me! I am not a Dem. or a Repub. and on some issues I agree with the conservatives (rarely) and sometimes with the Liberals and there are times I disagree with both sides.
First, to answer Thom's question: I haven't a clue what tactics the Teapublicans next plan to use , while furthering their mission of petty sabotage and obstructionism. But I'd bet everything, including the shirt on my back, that whatever they're up to is no good.
PD- Awww, Fluffy's back! Uglier & cuter than ever. And a lot more fun to look at than all those stupid airplanes (particularly the warplanes!).
PD said "This is definitely off topic but I was wondering how many people get lots of unwanted phone calls...." Count me in! Like you, I've tried the Do-not-Call List more than once, to no avail. The calls that really drove me nuts were the ones with nobody on the line; just silence, then "click". Sometimes I'd get five or more of those per day. And to block off this irritant, I've done two things: first, I turned off the ringer on the phone. Second, I got another message machine. With my husband's help I figured out how to set it so that only the caller hears my recorded greeting. Ahhh... RELIEF! - Aliceinwonderland
Well no, big government amassing big debts for more wars will continue because the corporate party's Republicans and Democrats regularly join in firm solidarity together to criminally provide the 99% who affirmatively vote to continue having a corporate-state with a massive military that roams the world mugging poor people living over rich resources... while refusing to stop the constant growth consumer economy that caused climate change.
There's nothing more despicable than a corporate party (D) voter pretending to be a good person.
The "Principles" of Liberal Voters:
http://chenangogreens.org/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id...
Okay. It's up here.
Until this business with Virginia and Pennsylvania, I would have welcomed a change from the unit rule to the Congressional-district method (don't call it proportional) of choosing Presidential electors. I hadn't realized just how skewed the outcome could be.
I really need to put up the exact wording for my system of objective districting. If someone (nudge, nudge) then publicizes it, Democratic legislators in every state will have something to work from. What I have is specifically written as an amendment to the Colorado constitution, so citations of articles and sections would need to be changed. Moreover, coastal states would have to insert some provision for determining whether a waterway makes two counties non-adjacent.
In 2010, Florida voters approved amendments 5 and 6 -- against the Republican legislature/governor's will -- that dictate that congressional and state legislative districts must be drawn compactly, following natural barriers and countie lines, and cannot be drawn to favor a party: The resulting sections of the state constituion are quoted below.
I know this caused much consternation among the Republicans who run our state (despite being a minority of voters state-wide). I am not sure how much effect it has had to date -- but the web site of the group that pushed the ballot measures looks interesting:
http://fairdistrictsnow.org/home/
"SECTION 20. Standards for establishing congressional district boundaries.—In establishing congressional district boundaries:
(a) No apportionment plan or individual district shall be drawn with the intent to favor or disfavor a political party or an incumbent; and districts shall not be drawn with the intent or result of denying or abridging the equal opportunity of racial or language minorities to participate in the political process or to diminish their ability to elect representatives of their choice; and districts shall consist of contiguous territory.(b) Unless compliance with the standards in this subsection conflicts with the standards in subsection 1(a) or with federal law, districts shall be as nearly equal in population as is practicable; districts shall be compact; and districts shall, where feasible, utilize existing political and geographical boundaries."
The Congressional-district method of choosing Presidential electors is the easiest way of getting away from the unit rule (the rule that all electoral votes in the state go to one candidate), because so far as I know (based on my experience in Colorado), that's already how the individual electors are chosen.
Each party has meetings for each district of each type in every election year for the respective office. At the Congressional district meetings, the delegates choose the party's candidate for that district, and in years divisible by 4, they also choose a Presidential elector. Then at the state party convention, the delegates choose the other two electors that the state is entitled to by Article I, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution. It doesn't have to be done this way, but it's the easiest way to let people in every part of the state have equal input.
Of course, if each state simply chose how to allocate the votes directly, rather than choosing people who then cast the votes, the unit rule could be avoided in any number of ways, one of which was put on the ballot in Colorado in 2000 or 2004 (I forget which).
IMaude: I rather enjoy Michael Hudson, the economist. His web site: http://michael-hudson.com/
But, thank you for that tip on web site. It looks like it is very interesting and well worth reading.
I know that Thom has had on Michael Hudson, the economist, before...but not often enough. IMNSHO
I'd like to see Stephanie Kelton on his show as well.
Hello Tom,
It is so hard to get people to understand the true nature of these "Republicans", and the extent that they have tried to manipulate and steal control of this country for their own gain. It is getting harder and harder now too; I used to listen to KPOJ in Portland and it is no longer on the air. Almost simultaneously with the elcetion of President Obama to his second term, it was replaced with a Fox (no less) Sports talk station.
I will do all that I can; I try to talk on Facebook about the need to keep informed, and question not only Republicans and their leadership, but to keep an eye on the Democrats also, but it seems that less and less people are engaged. It is so sad that only Clinton and Obama have been able to keep control of the whitehouse for more than 4 years. How can we get people more informed and involved?.
MMMMmmmmNachos: Right on! and you're making me hungry. mmmmmNachos and jalepeno cheeze dip, yummy!
Old Blue: Right on, as ever!
Kend, let's play a game. I call it the republican game.
You be the democrat, and I'll be the republican.
I sneak up behind you and drive my humvee over you. Then I roll down the window and yell, "Blame y'self! Good golly willikers, would you just get up and quit feeling sorry for yourself?"
Then, when you try to get up, I run over you again, and I yell, "Hey! You're embarrassing yourself down there. Would you get up on your own two feet, or are you going to lay there until the government gives you a handout? Why, if I was as lazy as you, I would never have been able to afford this humvee."
Then I run over you again. And then I yell, "Great gibbering fascists! You dented my bumper! I blame you for that!"
Wasn't that fun? Let's play it over and over and over and over and over and over, for thirty years. Then you will be able to answer your own question; you will know why democrats have not yet been able to fix the problems that republicans have caused.
Actually, this was meant to be a reply to #29.
Another was that Afghanistan was harboring Usama bin Laden and Al Qaida, who had, they believed, been behind some Embassy bombings and the bombing of the USS Cole... The Khobar Towers bombing in Dharan, Saudi Arabia...etc. And then there was the rift between Saddam Husein, who had threatened little Bush's daddy and threatened to get off the dollars for oil standard (would have been very terrible for the US..and other OPEC nations are considering just that..wrecking the US economy and superiority and ability to get other countries to pay for America's wars..like China).
And it wasn't just Bush anyway...it was the same forces that now controls Obama...it was the plutocratic forces behind him who wanted control of Middle East oil and a way to squeeze 90% of Americans out of their wealth..increased taxes to the lower classes and destroy social programs. It facilitated the cover up of decades of criminal business practices...took away people's liberties and freedoms and any say in bringing these criminals to justice. Justice?..9/11 destroyed that.
Just like Peal Harbor...where FDR needed a way to break the American people out of their refusal to go along with going to war.. so they followed the McCollum plan to push Japan to attack us. The plan was to antagonize Japan to the breaking point that they really had little other choice but to attack. In effect, the US declared war on Japan first but using antagonist actions that could be more covert than an all out declaration of war. Japan was also trying to expand it's influences and control over that part of the world..Operation Golden Lily (sacking of the far east), Nanking beheadings, Manchurian Biological warfare experimentation...was much to be concerned about. But what was it that really made Japan such an aggressive country? What was the root of the problem? You probably know...being the history buff you are. Why do school kids shoot other kids in school? The feeling that they've been excluded, ostracized, made fun of, treated unfairly, made to feel inferior, pushed into a corner by arrogant bullies. And when you finally do fight back, say with an AK-47 and you manage to kill a lot more than just the original bullies, you are deemed a wacko...which you probably are by now anyway. So why does our system create such wackos to begin with? Maybe we should start questioning and reforming our system that creates wackos.
Many US actions against Arab nations have a long history of being antagonistic against them and when they try to fight back, in any way they can, the US finds a way to break their American citizens out of their anti-war sentiments. They create a false flag...everything from throwing down a red carpet for these 20 so-called 'hijackers' to get into the country (only the last 'hijacker' was stopped by a border control agent who wouldn't 'play the game' as set down by his chain of command). Training them at flight schools. Having a military exercise including the scenario of the WTC towers and the Pentagon being hit by hijacked planes (this is done so that the confusion would be enough to make those who aren't in on the actual attack think it was just a drill).
Ken, you must speak Arabic fluently. How else would you have understood what Usama bin Laden was saying about 9/11? Usama bin Laden also had many doubles...how do you know that the one that you heard was the real one? How do you know that what he said was what you were told he said? There are very easy ways to dub in voices in videos as well. How can we really believe anything that these organizations like the CIA, NSA, or even the military has to present in the way of evidence when they have the ability to create any audio/visual presentation they want. I mean if they can fake a picture of Oswald standing and holding a rifle they can certainly fake a voice saying anything in Arabic, even if one can understand Arabic, and most certainly can mis-translate what is being said. Millions of frightened, xenophobic Americans are more than willing to believe what they are told he said.
If our country was willing to sacrifice the many, many more deaths by sending troops over to die in the Middle East then why would anyone doubt that these same people would sacrifice several thousand people in a false flag operation? What they got was, to them, well worth the sacrifice...to them...but not to our country..to the rest of us.
And there is even the remote possibility that the US has been playing a grand chess game from the very beginning in order to control the world's oil. Their plan: create the illusion that there are 'terrorist operations' that go around bombing embassies, ships, and barracks, etc... that reinforces their propaganda that we have to be afraid, very afraid of 'terrorists'...especially Radical Muslim terrorists. This all creates the fears and hatreds in the world's subjects...especially American subjects...that, and the grand finale of bringing the WTC towers down, and hitting the Pentagon, as a final statement as to why we needed to invade the Middle East allowed for the eventual unprovoked and illegal invasion and control of the Middle East oil fields.
ken ware: crazy? well, maybe there's a little 'crazy' in all of us and it leaks out sometimes!
Aliceinwonderland: Great idea! Just shut off my ringer and just check my device periodically, for who called, and call them back if I want to speak to them.
I understand the right of the people to protect themselves against unjust government control. But what about the fact that these guns are in the mean time turned against fellow citizens? What is your solution for that fact, in light of your recommending high ownership of military weapons to 'protect' citizens? The people's right to uphold their democratic principles thru battle level ballistic weapons should be contained within citizens' militia, and not within private ownership. No private gun owner should need or own the ballistic capacity to take out crowds of private citizens in a sweep of sprayed ammunition.
Global...In response to your statement; "We must resist government domination..."
Countrys uneasy,
feeling betrayed.
We the people are paying
for the mistakes others have made.
The time is coming
for us to realize;
We must break out from
these corrupt government ties.
We must resist the urge for power.
Who can you trust?
Who is in control?
History shows us
all governments do decline;
From healthy ideas,
which in time are tread upon.
Let us begin to learn
from the mistakes of the past.
Change our way of thinking
so people and planet last.
we must resist the urge for power
Who can you trust?
Who is in control?
KEYLAWK, Where are you from???
No disrespect to you as a person, but I find your perspective sophmoric, even down right idiotic!
Please share your confidence...How does President Obamney have your communities best intrests at heart.
Please explain how/why you think Obamney is not serving a plutocrate agenda?
Imaude - Not being an economist I can't refute MMT in technical terms, but common sense would dictate that at some point simply printing more money, without bound, would eventually devaluate our currency to zero through inflation. I read everything Paul Krugman writes on our fiscal policy and view his as the the most reasonable voice in the field. There is a balance to be had between spending for stimulus and outright irresponsible spending. What the issue really boils down to is priorities. When either political party speaks of our fiscal jeopardy, the first words out of their mouths relate to "entitlement" spending, spending on social programs, raising more revenue to support our spending, etc. When the numbers are tossed around the units are always expressed in saving tens or hundreds of billions of dollars over the next decade. If my math is correct, saving $700 billion over a decade translates to saving $70 billion a year. That's a big number, but is absolutely dwarfed by the $Trillion plus we currently spend on so called "defense" and those expendatures are accelerating. Do you suppose there's a reason why there is no discussion of this by either Obama or his antagonists? It's been frequently mentioned that the US spends more on "defense" than the next fifteen countries on the planet combined. This includes all of the "rich" nations plus China and Russia. If we cut back on defense spending by even a modest twenty percent over time we could solve all the rest of our fiscal problems within a generation, or so I've read. But no, this doesn't align with the priorities of those who gain materially by maintaining a constant state of fear, ignorance and support for our current policies and control those who execute those policies. So no, Imaude, I don't think firing up the printing presses is going to get us out of this. As Joe Friendly indicated above, we need to create a whole new social mindset in this country. Everything I've read about empires that have reached this state of decay, however, tells me that this will be no easy task. Sorry to be such a constant party pooper :-(
David Abbott,
Your naivete is showing! "...But he is not as bad a corporatist as Bush/Chenny were or as bad as Romney Ryan would have been...But there is still a chance that Obama will be more proactive in doing what he said he would do."
You too funny!!
KEN WARE...Most people of your generation have a difficult time wraping their head around the accusation that "your" government would plot such a deadly event like 9/11.
The main reason for this is infact based on generation ideology. Most people are patriotic without question. It's how were raised..."If the U.S. is 'doing it' than it must be Just". History - if you read the books that tell the truth - shows us that the majority of the time, most people resist going to war.
It strikes me as sad that you - a Vietnam Vet - has such a hard time understanding "why" & "how" a corrupt and greedy Empire would enact such evil upon innocent people, even its own.
WAKE-UP MAN! You aren't unAmerican if you question the government. You aren't unPatriotic for not beating the War Machine Drum.
The American Government is Of, For, and By the People. It is not only our Right to question the government of suspect and unjust actions it is our duty.
Patriatism is the last refuge for the scoundrel.
Lastly you are right Ken...Bush and didn't single handly plot 9/11; the Goons he worked for did.
I listen to your show just about every day and would love to hear you interview an economist that has an alternative view of our monetary system. Her name is Stephanie Kelton. She is an Assistant Professor at UMKC and blogs at New Economic Perspectives. She, along with others at the school and elsewhere promote a school of thought referred to as Modern Monetary Theory. Basically, it is a new way to look at money and government debt. I recently attended a presentation she made to the Financial Planners Association and was very pleased to see many shaking their heads in agreement as she explained how our monetary system works. I assure you, her explanation is easy to understand and your audience would be very receptive. If I were to sum up Modern Monetary Theory (or MMT) in a few sentences I would go to a colleague of Stephanie Kelton who developed the theory;
"Federal government spending is in no case
operationally constrained by revenues, meaning
that there is no “solvency risk.” In other words,
the federal government can always make any and all
payments in its own currency, no matter how large
the deficit is, or how few taxes it collects" ~ Warren Mosler, Seven Deadly Innocent Frauds of Economic Policy
The important underpinning of this is that the U.S. is a sovereign currency that acts like we are on the gold standard when we are not. Stephanie Kelton is an excellent proponent of this and will bring a perspective to our economic system that will change the conversation. Her blog is New Economic Perspectives and on twitter she is known as @deficitowl Please, please, please, have her on your show. I promise you will not regret it.
Every Vote Counts!?!?
Had more...ALL...of those who cast "fear votes" for Obama or Romney and joined those who voted couragously for Jill Stein...At the very least the next 4 years would be different - a change in course - than I have ever know. Good or Bad...We'll never know; at least not for another 4 years.
I think not. I think that with determined, with strong leadership, the President has staked out his vision and the Republicans as political wing of the uber class never let us forget theirs, I expect some achievement these first two years of his second term but most will occur in 24 months when Americans send a majority of Dems to the House and a super majority to the Senate. Then will he cement his legacy and set the stage for the unprecedented election of the next Democratic President of the United States. I can wait.
Ken what is that crest?
We need to actually prepare for a peaceful revolution, so the people can eventually, ceremoniously, withdraw their consent from a corrupt and obsolete government and economic system, after first accomplishing a talking thru of an alternative set of institutions, complete with an alternative economic system based on respecting full human dignity, transparency, sustainability.
I propose we push for a government in waiting to conduct such a new national narrative, with folks onboard like Thom Hartmann, Amy Goodman, Bill Moyers, Chris Hedges, Jim HIghtower, Barbara Ehrenreich, Melissa Harris-Perry, . . .
We need to rescue our culture from the commercial mentality which is inherently lacking in morality, and aim for a moral, rational, and just social order.
Revolution by discussion and articulation, the next step for Occupy.
DAnneMarc - I listened to your solo performance with your guitar, but somehow I thought you were referring to the cat! Sometimes things go right over my head without me realizing it! No I was not being sarcastic.
Palindromdary - I believe Bush is capable of doing just about anything to start a war. But the risk to benefit calculations seems that the payoff of starting a war by killing thousands and blaming it on Bin Laden just does not make sense to me. Even Bin Laden said he was surprised when his plan killed so many people. Claiming Saddam Hussein was trying to build a nuke and we had proof when Bush didn't is one thing, but to believe Bush and his gang planned and actually was responsible for the destruction on 9-11 is too far for me to reach in my logic. The war in Afghanistan started in Oct. 2001. What does Afghanistan have that Bush wanted so bad, that would prompt him to kill 3,000 people and destroy the Towers and almost the Pentagon? The fourth airliner was headed for the White House when the passengers helped bring it down in a field. I just cannot connect the dots on this one.
Kend - Stranger things have happened than you agreeing with me! I am not a Dem. or a Repub. and on some issues I agree with the conservatives (rarely) and sometimes with the Liberals and there are times I disagree with both sides.
First, to answer Thom's question: I haven't a clue what tactics the Teapublicans next plan to use , while furthering their mission of petty sabotage and obstructionism. But I'd bet everything, including the shirt on my back, that whatever they're up to is no good.
PD- Awww, Fluffy's back! Uglier & cuter than ever. And a lot more fun to look at than all those stupid airplanes (particularly the warplanes!).
PD said "This is definitely off topic but I was wondering how many people get lots of unwanted phone calls...." Count me in! Like you, I've tried the Do-not-Call List more than once, to no avail. The calls that really drove me nuts were the ones with nobody on the line; just silence, then "click". Sometimes I'd get five or more of those per day. And to block off this irritant, I've done two things: first, I turned off the ringer on the phone. Second, I got another message machine. With my husband's help I figured out how to set it so that only the caller hears my recorded greeting. Ahhh... RELIEF! - Aliceinwonderland