When the wokers get involved in anything it is good for the workers. Not getting involved is good for the corporate greed. Corporate profits are through the roof while wages are at the lowest compared to gdp. I think workers need to take a stand against the greed to stimulate the economy.
Unfortunately, President Obama hasn’t said a word about Sensata either. That’s because both parties, by and large, have bought into these neoliberal free trade policies that are decimating American manufacturing. Optometrist Murrieta
I heard about this on a local independent talk radio station...
I agree with your perspective...If this was Star Wars, Corporate America would be the Death Star going around blowing up planets...Or in this case the weak and the less able!
Funny (queer) how we play ball with China (huge human rights violators) and get along with Russia...Both countries could spank our asses or at the very least give us a hard go at it.
Ken Ware, great comment but you forgot to include the European Union. In Britain it's a constant fight to stop them taking away our sovereignty. For example: they issued a ruling that if things are sold by weight they must be in kg. A greengrocer carried on selling in lb and oz and was jailed. The stress killed him. later the EU did a U-turn and now it's OK to sell in lb and oz again (if you also display the kg). And so it goes on. it's crazy.
We are seeing the negative effects of the conservatives adoration of austerity but still the UK government won't admit it - maybe like lemmings we'll have to fall over a cliff and even then they'll cling on to the austerity mantra.
Why don't States just tax Walmart for providing healthcare and foodstamps to their workers? You would say, they would just pass on the cost to customers? Then I'd say, Ah-ha! Then they wouldn't be able to undercut other stores that do pay their workers a fair wage and benefits.
I pesonally refuse to purchase items from Walmart. I'd rather suport businesses like Trader Joe's and Costco that pay their employee a livable wage.
Grinchsmom: thanx for posting those Senators...I had done a little searching for them but was diverted to something else. Hopefully Anonymous is hacking into their emails and can pull up some dirt on them. But, I can't imagine them being much dirtier than they have all just shown themselves to be. Hopefully people will, everywhere these Senators go, greet them with lots of loud boos and jeers...not booze and cheers.
Ken Ware: Thanx, I aims to please! Actually, we could almost be twins..in beliefs anyway..I'm not as good looking as you though. We have mostly agreed on the basic and important things...even down to eating only chicken (and no red meat...or even the other white meat..which it's really not..but I do also eat turkey and fish but no shell fish because of occasional gout) and knowing that we would probably be better off being vegetarians.
We desperately NEED Public financing of elections .As F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote in The Great Gatsby, "Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me...They think, deep down, that they are better than we are.” Our nation's responses to the climate crisis, the federal deficit, our economic stagnation and many of our other serious challenges are still being held hostage by people who manifest a detachment from reality as profound as that of schizophrenics. We are still allowing a powerful elite, who behave like psychopaths, to steer our government towards protecting their interests at the expense of everyone else. The greatest threat to the United States will never be Al Qaeda, Russia, China or Iran. It will be our failure to wrest control of public policy from the inmates of our own insane asylum.
As F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote in The Great Gatsby, "Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me...They think, deep down, that they are better than we are.” Our nation's responses to the climate crisis, the federal deficit, our economic stagnation and many of our other serious challenges are still being held hostage by people who manifest a detachment from reality as profound as that of schizophrenics. We are still allowing a powerful elite, who behave like psychopaths, to steer our government towards protecting their interests at the expense of everyone else. The greatest threat to the United States will never be Al Qaeda, Russia, China or Iran. It will be our failure to wrest control of public policy from the inmates of our own insane asylum.
The CRPD WALL OF SHAME The following 38 Senators voted no on equal rights for people with disabilities both here at home and around the world. Let them know they will not get away with this, that we refuse to be treated like second class citizens..and we VOTE! Alexander (R-TN) Blunt (R-MO) Boozman (R-AR) Burr (R-NC) Chambliss (R-GA) Coats (R-IN) Coburn (R-OK) Cochran (R-MS)
So Moron Nation once again shows the world its true Ayn Rand malevolence: no surprise to me.
Try being disabled in public -- for example using a walker as I occasionally have to do when my arthritis-inflamed spinal injuries are too restrictive for a cane -- you'll discover there's no limit to the USian hatred of anyone who's definitively "different"
And that's what this vote against disabled people is really about: not Teabagger skill at evoking fear amongst the Moronic Majorities in the diverse States of Ignorance, but the carefully fostered, methodically mustered hatred of disabled people -- and anyone else who by definition is no longer exploitable for profit.
Understand the pattern here. This like the downsizing and elimination of the socioeconomic safety net is but another battle in the One Percent's war against elderly, disabled and chronically impoverished people.
Had that UN treaty been ratified, it would have put another obstacle in the way of the One Percent's long-range plan of killing us all by abandonment and neglect -- the new, no-death-camps approach to genocide.
Republicans in the Senate and the House of Representatives are only interested in playing politics. The business of governing the nation is off their menu of available actions. They only know how to play politics. Their behavior on the rights of the disabled is disgusting and disgraceful. I hope that none of them ever hide behind the banner of support for the troops. Many of the disabled people covered by this treaty are disabled veterans. These Senators should be made to pay for this vote. They should have their disgraceful behavior shown to their constituencies.
Palindromedary - Well said, couldn't have said it better if I tried and your remarks to extraemail were right on. Can't believe I am agreeing with you again!
Obviously, that treaty is a conspiracy among disabled people, who want to take over the world. My God, it's not bad enough that we allowed Obama to come here from Nigeria? No, apparently it is not bad enough, because now they want us to enable disabled people to have access to public facilities!
I am sitting here weeping great big tears of fear for our country. In fact, I wrote on a blackboard that if crippled veterans are allowed access to our public facilities, Godzilla will personally visit every American city and make all of the Christians get divorced, and I don't want to get a divorce, so please, I'm begging you don't ratify that treaty!
Extraemail - Will you and the rest of the frigging Republicans please put up or shut up. People like you continue to make these ignorant statements with no facts to back them up. Nameless, faceless government is called the Multi-National Corporations you Republicans protect with great vigor. I agree on one thing and that is if any political leader on either side of the isle supports the W.T.O., N.A.F.T.A. or any other world trade agreement they are supporting a global government in the form of the corporate elite! And that would include all the Presidents that have signed any trade agreements that bind our sovereignty from deciding our own fate. But to keep repeating the trash you have heard on the Fox entertainment channel or rightwing radio commentators is being an idiot and a trader to the American way of life. These stupid remarks are made up to spur on the idiots who do not ask for any form of proof and go along with the mindless crowd of Republican nitwits that are angry because a half black and half white man defeated a white Senator the first time and a selfish job destroying business man who once held an honorable position as governor, but sold out his morals for cash...Wake up and look for the facts before you make moronic statements that can be read by others! I welcome any intelligent reply to my comments.
Thanks for the link to thedailyshow. The Republicans are such hypocrites! And this show sure shows it. As Bill Maher would say....the Republicans, and their constituents, all live in a bubble. The republicans need to just grow up. But, maybe that's the problem....they've gone way past senile already. Maybe they should start thinking it's time to be turned into Soylent Green.
Global - Are you and the Republicans as steadfast against the T.P.P., N.A.F.T.A. and the W.T.O. which destroys are sovereignty when it comes to what Corporations want changed if it hinders their profits regardless of our sovereign laws? The U.N. is there to protect the rest of the World from nations like ours, who will war against any nation for profit. The U.N. asked Israel to allow inspection of its nuclear facilities, as they have asked Iran, and they refused. As long as it is an American allies we do not enforce any requests from the U.N., but if it is not we are ready to drop bunker busters on them and their population of civilians. We as a nation invaded Iraq under the rule of the war criminal Bush because we told the U.N. they had weapons of mass destruction, yet we embrace a small insignificant nation like Israel who has confiscated Palestinian land for it's so call protection and our reply is to send them more advanced weapons to use against their neighbors in the Middle East. Israel used terrorism against the British to acquire land that was not theirs to start with, yet they denounce the Palestinians for doing the same. I am just glad we have the U.N. to make the World aware of what nations like the U.S. and Israel are doing to promote war and war crimes. We gave up our sovereignty when we signed the N.A.F.T.A. treaty and I have not heard one Republicans cry out against that treaty even though it has cost us tens of thousands of jobs here in the U.S.. And please do not question my loyalty to our nation, I have served in our military and helped fight its wars and would do so again if called on to do so. But I will not defend its illegal wars that have killed millions all over the World in the name of Democracy and would have killed even more if it was not for the eyes of the United Nations. When did it become a bad thing to promote a treaty to help the disabled around the World, when we already have laws on the books to do so here in the United States?
Paul Krugman's == December 1, 2012, 5:37 pm – What Defines A Serious Deficit Proposal?
So I thought I’d look at the dollars and cents — and even I am somewhat shocked. Those tax hikes would raise $1.6 trillion over the next decade; according to the CBO, raising the Medicare age would save $113 billion in federal funds over the next decade.
So, the non-serious proposal would reduce the deficit 14 times as much as the serious proposal.
On the other hand, The Hous speaker , in his letter to the President today offers no specific cuts that would lead to the $800 B cuts he claims. If there was any “stratigic downturn” in the Us economy, it would have to be trhe Bush Tax Cuts (out of a deficit budget situation) of 2001 and 2004.
It goes without saying that the Republican “counteroffer” is basically fake. It calls for $800 billion in revenue from closing loopholes, but doesn’t specify a single loophole to be closed; it calls for huge spending cuts, but aside from raising the Medicare age and cutting the Social Security inflation adjustment — moves worth only around $300 billion — it doesn’t specify how these cuts are to be achieved. So it’s basically the Paul Ryan method: scribble down some numbers and pretend that you’re a budget wonk with a Serious plan.
What I haven’t seen pointed out here is the longer arc of GOP strategy. Does anyone recall how the Bush tax cuts were passed? The 2001 cut was passed based on the claim that the government was running an excessive surplus; the 2003 cut on the claim that it would provide an economic boost. Then the surplus went away, and the economy did not, to say the least, perform very well.
So now we face a substantial long-run deficit largely created by those tax cuts.
And the GOP says that because of that deficit we must raise the Medicare age and cut Social Security!
Oh, and for all the seniors or near-seniors who voted Republican because you thought they would protect Medicare from that bad guy Obama: you’ve been had.
LOL! Sorry... I thought it was obvious enough that I was just having some fun. C'mon! "Kenyan Muslim" should have been a give away. Palindromedary got it. :-)
Well, perhaps it is not so obvious when you read some of the radical right comments... Just for fun - here is a real comment I recently read from the L.A. Times: "He knows what goimng on. More of the same plan to destroy the USA and take down whitey at the same time"
Hey extraemail...so what part of Kenya are you from? When did you come to the U.S.? You are so sure that Obama is a Kenyan Muslim, I suspect that you must have known him over there when you lived there yourself? Unfortunately, Obama is more of a capitalist than a Muslim. And even if he were a Muslim...that would be just fine with me.
هل البراغيث من الف الجمال ايجاد الخاص بك خيمة الليلة
شهر ماي يجتاح البراغيث من ألف جمال أباطك
Maasalamu, Saddiqi.
When will we care? ... Regarding the topic of simply caring for human beings on planet earth we've been there before via the U.N. Declaration of Human Rights. "The United States voted "yes" on [ the Universal Declaration of Human Rights] ... in December 1948 when the resolution was created. Since 1948, the only country voting "no" on the resolution each year was the United States. For example, in 2004 and 2005, 52 of 53 countries voted for the resolution, and the United States voted against it." Reference: http://www.medicareforall.org/pages/United_Nations
When the wokers get involved in anything it is good for the workers. Not getting involved is good for the corporate greed. Corporate profits are through the roof while wages are at the lowest compared to gdp. I think workers need to take a stand against the greed to stimulate the economy.
Okay??? Give me your take than on NAFTA. Pros and Cons.
Unfortunately, President Obama hasn’t said a word about Sensata either. That’s because both parties, by and large, have bought into these neoliberal free trade policies that are decimating American manufacturing. Optometrist Murrieta
I heard about this on a local independent talk radio station...
I agree with your perspective...If this was Star Wars, Corporate America would be the Death Star going around blowing up planets...Or in this case the weak and the less able!
Funny (queer) how we play ball with China (huge human rights violators) and get along with Russia...Both countries could spank our asses or at the very least give us a hard go at it.
Ken Ware, great comment but you forgot to include the European Union. In Britain it's a constant fight to stop them taking away our sovereignty. For example: they issued a ruling that if things are sold by weight they must be in kg. A greengrocer carried on selling in lb and oz and was jailed. The stress killed him. later the EU did a U-turn and now it's OK to sell in lb and oz again (if you also display the kg). And so it goes on. it's crazy.
We are seeing the negative effects of the conservatives adoration of austerity but still the UK government won't admit it - maybe like lemmings we'll have to fall over a cliff and even then they'll cling on to the austerity mantra.
Why don't States just tax Walmart for providing healthcare and foodstamps to their workers? You would say, they would just pass on the cost to customers? Then I'd say, Ah-ha! Then they wouldn't be able to undercut other stores that do pay their workers a fair wage and benefits.
I pesonally refuse to purchase items from Walmart. I'd rather suport businesses like Trader Joe's and Costco that pay their employee a livable wage.
Grinchsmom: thanx for posting those Senators...I had done a little searching for them but was diverted to something else. Hopefully Anonymous is hacking into their emails and can pull up some dirt on them. But, I can't imagine them being much dirtier than they have all just shown themselves to be. Hopefully people will, everywhere these Senators go, greet them with lots of loud boos and jeers...not booze and cheers.
Ken Ware: Thanx, I aims to please! Actually, we could almost be twins..in beliefs anyway..I'm not as good looking as you though. We have mostly agreed on the basic and important things...even down to eating only chicken (and no red meat...or even the other white meat..which it's really not..but I do also eat turkey and fish but no shell fish because of occasional gout) and knowing that we would probably be better off being vegetarians.
The only way things will change is if the people speak up for what is right for all. There is power in numbers.
We desperately NEED Public financing of elections .As F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote in The Great Gatsby, "Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me...They think, deep down, that they are better than we are.” Our nation's responses to the climate crisis, the federal deficit, our economic stagnation and many of our other serious challenges are still being held hostage by people who manifest a detachment from reality as profound as that of schizophrenics. We are still allowing a powerful elite, who behave like psychopaths, to steer our government towards protecting their interests at the expense of everyone else. The greatest threat to the United States will never be Al Qaeda, Russia, China or Iran. It will be our failure to wrest control of public policy from the inmates of our own insane asylum.
As F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote in The Great Gatsby, "Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me...They think, deep down, that they are better than we are.” Our nation's responses to the climate crisis, the federal deficit, our economic stagnation and many of our other serious challenges are still being held hostage by people who manifest a detachment from reality as profound as that of schizophrenics. We are still allowing a powerful elite, who behave like psychopaths, to steer our government towards protecting their interests at the expense of everyone else. The greatest threat to the United States will never be Al Qaeda, Russia, China or Iran. It will be our failure to wrest control of public policy from the inmates of our own insane asylum.
Here's the liist of Senators:
The CRPD WALL OF SHAME
The following 38 Senators voted no on equal rights for people with disabilities both here at home and around the world. Let them know they will not get away with this, that we refuse to be treated like second class citizens..and we VOTE!
Alexander (R-TN)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heller (R-NV)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lee (R-UT)
McConnell (R-KY)
Moran (R-KS)
Paul (R-KY)
Portman (R-OH)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rubio (R-FL)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Toomey (R-PA)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-MS)
So Moron Nation once again shows the world its true Ayn Rand malevolence: no surprise to me.
Try being disabled in public -- for example using a walker as I occasionally have to do when my arthritis-inflamed spinal injuries are too restrictive for a cane -- you'll discover there's no limit to the USian hatred of anyone who's definitively "different"
And that's what this vote against disabled people is really about: not Teabagger skill at evoking fear amongst the Moronic Majorities in the diverse States of Ignorance, but the carefully fostered, methodically mustered hatred of disabled people -- and anyone else who by definition is no longer exploitable for profit.
Understand the pattern here. This like the downsizing and elimination of the socioeconomic safety net is but another battle in the One Percent's war against elderly, disabled and chronically impoverished people.
Had that UN treaty been ratified, it would have put another obstacle in the way of the One Percent's long-range plan of killing us all by abandonment and neglect -- the new, no-death-camps approach to genocide.
Republicans in the Senate and the House of Representatives are only interested in playing politics. The business of governing the nation is off their menu of available actions. They only know how to play politics. Their behavior on the rights of the disabled is disgusting and disgraceful. I hope that none of them ever hide behind the banner of support for the troops. Many of the disabled people covered by this treaty are disabled veterans. These Senators should be made to pay for this vote. They should have their disgraceful behavior shown to their constituencies.
Palindromedary - Well said, couldn't have said it better if I tried and your remarks to extraemail were right on. Can't believe I am agreeing with you again!
Obviously, that treaty is a conspiracy among disabled people, who want to take over the world. My God, it's not bad enough that we allowed Obama to come here from Nigeria? No, apparently it is not bad enough, because now they want us to enable disabled people to have access to public facilities!
I am sitting here weeping great big tears of fear for our country. In fact, I wrote on a blackboard that if crippled veterans are allowed access to our public facilities, Godzilla will personally visit every American city and make all of the Christians get divorced, and I don't want to get a divorce, so please, I'm begging you don't ratify that treaty!
Extraemail - Will you and the rest of the frigging Republicans please put up or shut up. People like you continue to make these ignorant statements with no facts to back them up. Nameless, faceless government is called the Multi-National Corporations you Republicans protect with great vigor. I agree on one thing and that is if any political leader on either side of the isle supports the W.T.O., N.A.F.T.A. or any other world trade agreement they are supporting a global government in the form of the corporate elite! And that would include all the Presidents that have signed any trade agreements that bind our sovereignty from deciding our own fate. But to keep repeating the trash you have heard on the Fox entertainment channel or rightwing radio commentators is being an idiot and a trader to the American way of life. These stupid remarks are made up to spur on the idiots who do not ask for any form of proof and go along with the mindless crowd of Republican nitwits that are angry because a half black and half white man defeated a white Senator the first time and a selfish job destroying business man who once held an honorable position as governor, but sold out his morals for cash...Wake up and look for the facts before you make moronic statements that can be read by others! I welcome any intelligent reply to my comments.
Thanks for the link to thedailyshow. The Republicans are such hypocrites! And this show sure shows it. As Bill Maher would say....the Republicans, and their constituents, all live in a bubble. The republicans need to just grow up. But, maybe that's the problem....they've gone way past senile already. Maybe they should start thinking it's time to be turned into Soylent Green.
Nuckin-futz -- there's no end to it.
Global - Are you and the Republicans as steadfast against the T.P.P., N.A.F.T.A. and the W.T.O. which destroys are sovereignty when it comes to what Corporations want changed if it hinders their profits regardless of our sovereign laws? The U.N. is there to protect the rest of the World from nations like ours, who will war against any nation for profit. The U.N. asked Israel to allow inspection of its nuclear facilities, as they have asked Iran, and they refused. As long as it is an American allies we do not enforce any requests from the U.N., but if it is not we are ready to drop bunker busters on them and their population of civilians. We as a nation invaded Iraq under the rule of the war criminal Bush because we told the U.N. they had weapons of mass destruction, yet we embrace a small insignificant nation like Israel who has confiscated Palestinian land for it's so call protection and our reply is to send them more advanced weapons to use against their neighbors in the Middle East. Israel used terrorism against the British to acquire land that was not theirs to start with, yet they denounce the Palestinians for doing the same. I am just glad we have the U.N. to make the World aware of what nations like the U.S. and Israel are doing to promote war and war crimes. We gave up our sovereignty when we signed the N.A.F.T.A. treaty and I have not heard one Republicans cry out against that treaty even though it has cost us tens of thousands of jobs here in the U.S.. And please do not question my loyalty to our nation, I have served in our military and helped fight its wars and would do so again if called on to do so. But I will not defend its illegal wars that have killed millions all over the World in the name of Democracy and would have killed even more if it was not for the eyes of the United Nations. When did it become a bad thing to promote a treaty to help the disabled around the World, when we already have laws on the books to do so here in the United States?
Paul Krugman's == December 1, 2012, 5:37 pm – What Defines A Serious Deficit Proposal?
So I thought I’d look at the dollars and cents — and even I am somewhat shocked. Those tax hikes would raise $1.6 trillion over the next decade; according to the CBO, raising the Medicare age would save $113 billion in federal funds over the next decade.
So, the non-serious proposal would reduce the deficit 14 times as much as the serious proposal.
On the other hand, The Hous speaker , in his letter to the President today offers no specific cuts that would lead to the $800 B cuts he claims. If there was any “stratigic downturn” in the Us economy, it would have to be trhe Bush Tax Cuts (out of a deficit budget situation) of 2001 and 2004.
http://www.speaker.gov/sites/speaker.house.gov/files/documents/letter_to_wh_121203.pdf
For a good timeline of the sources of the current budget problems see Paul Krugnman's graph on his blog “The Conscience of a Liberal” 12/04/12.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/
December 4, 2012, 7:45 am Paul Krugman Three-Card Budget Monte
Three-Card Budget Monte
It goes without saying that the Republican “counteroffer” is basically fake. It calls for $800 billion in revenue from closing loopholes, but doesn’t specify a single loophole to be closed; it calls for huge spending cuts, but aside from raising the Medicare age and cutting the Social Security inflation adjustment — moves worth only around $300 billion — it doesn’t specify how these cuts are to be achieved. So it’s basically the Paul Ryan method: scribble down some numbers and pretend that you’re a budget wonk with a Serious plan.
What I haven’t seen pointed out here is the longer arc of GOP strategy. Does anyone recall how the Bush tax cuts were passed? The 2001 cut was passed based on the claim that the government was running an excessive surplus; the 2003 cut on the claim that it would provide an economic boost. Then the surplus went away, and the economy did not, to say the least, perform very well.
So now we face a substantial long-run deficit largely created by those tax cuts.
And the GOP says that because of that deficit we must raise the Medicare age and cut Social Security!
Oh, and for all the seniors or near-seniors who voted Republican because you thought they would protect Medicare from that bad guy Obama: you’ve been had.
LOL! Sorry... I thought it was obvious enough that I was just having some fun. C'mon! "Kenyan Muslim" should have been a give away. Palindromedary got it. :-)
Well, perhaps it is not so obvious when you read some of the radical right comments... Just for fun - here is a real comment I recently read from the L.A. Times: "He knows what goimng on. More of the same plan to destroy the USA and take down whitey at the same time"
Hey extraemail...so what part of Kenya are you from? When did you come to the U.S.? You are so sure that Obama is a Kenyan Muslim, I suspect that you must have known him over there when you lived there yourself? Unfortunately, Obama is more of a capitalist than a Muslim. And even if he were a Muslim...that would be just fine with me.
هل البراغيث من الف الجمال ايجاد الخاص بك خيمة الليلة
شهر ماي يجتاح البراغيث من ألف جمال أباطك
Maasalamu, Saddiqi.
When will we care? ... Regarding the topic of simply caring for human beings on planet earth we've been there before via the U.N. Declaration of Human Rights.
"The United States voted "yes" on [ the Universal Declaration of Human Rights] ... in December 1948 when the resolution was created. Since 1948, the only country voting "no" on the resolution each year was the United States. For example, in 2004 and 2005, 52 of 53 countries voted for the resolution, and the United States voted against it."
Reference: http://www.medicareforall.org/pages/United_Nations
HOWEVER .... "The Senate may choose to take up the treaty again when the new Congress convenes." ... according to Human Rights Watch ...
http://www.hrw.org/news/2012/12/04/us-senate-misses-opportunity-disabili...
I have friends and acquaintances across the globe. This makes me ashamed to the point of tears.
Somebody please post the names of the 38 U.S. Senators.
Bob the Health and Health Care Advocate
P.S. to "Extraemail": You guys lost the election. GET OVER IT. - Aliceinwonderland