This morning's comments on the bankster settlement via Eric Holder. I foresee a crack in their wall; i.e. they are making a "federal AG deal" to escape prosecution by the FEDS, right? What is to prevent someone who has been foreclosed, forced into bankruptcy, from filing a Chapter 13 (personal reorganization) bankruptcy; APPLYING FEDERAL RULE 2004, uncovering fraud, and then suing in Civil Court for damages, using someone like Gerry Spense and giving the banksters a "real" black eye?
It may be important to note that an aneurysm by itself doesn't kill you; it's the bursting that causes the real trouble. An aneurysm is a ballooned and usually weakened blood vessel, and when it bursts bleeding is hard to control. An abdominal aortic aneurysm (called a "triple-a") is especially bad, since it involves nearly half the body's blood supply, and it can often go untreated because it is perceived by the patient as lower back pain (sort of the same way that menstrual cramps are), which may make the sufferer think it's not all that serious.
An aneurysm can be treated, making the bursting less likely. Another example of why preventive medicine is preferable to emergency medicine.
28 states already, uncontroversially, require prescription coverage for birth control.
No observant Catholic is required to obtain birth control, even if it is covered by their health insurance.
When church affiliated entities knowingly hire non-coreligionists, they do not and can not expect (or require) them to follow Church teachings in their private lives. To do so would be violation of their employees' religious liberty.
The employer is not actually paying for health insurance - the employee is - it is part of their compensation package and belongs to them, not the employer. No one would argue that your employer has a right to tell you anything else you can pay for with your earnings - they don't have a right to say you can't buy porn with the money you earned from them, or that you aren't allowed to buy a certain kind of shoes, or a kosher brisket.
It is the employees who are paying for the health insurance, with their labor. Just because a benefit is available does not mean they are required to use it. There is no violation of religious liberty in offering benefit they may not use, but there is a violation of religious liberty when an employeer imposes their religious requirements on a non-coreligionist employee.
If the government can make requirements to provide birth control, how hypocritical is it that they can at the same time continue to hold that Medical Marijuana is completely illegal.
However you feel about either issue, it seems to me that having the government decide what is or isn't permissable outside of declaring if the medicine is safe, is a bad idea.
If birth control is safe, then if an insurer wants to provide it or not, should be up to the insurer. If medical marijuana is safe, then it should be up to an insurer if they wish to provide for it or not. For that matter, it shouldn't even be up to the insurance company, but the individual doctor and patient. Same for vegitarian dishes at hospitals so on and so forth.
Therefore if I'm a teacher at a Catholic High School, and I go to a doctor because of symptoms I'm having, it should be between my doctor and me what therapies and medicines I'll be taking. I shouldn't have to go to my employer and ask if its ok with them, nor should I fear that I'll be arrested for having possession of my medicine. Not withstanding that I'm under the influence of a potent medicine that affects my job performance at the job, or while driving my car on public roads.
Still not sure why it is essential for people to be provided birth control, I always thought taking it was optional for people, nor that it was something that is known to save someone's life (maybe save their quality of life, but that's a different issue).
And so we take a nother step towards both a Corporate Fascist Police State and the inevitable response...which is of course a revolution...and frankly one that likely will be violent.... how could it be otherwise?
HA! Maybe this is my great chance to finally find my own opinion. Maybe the power of money isn't so piercing as pessimistic liberals tend to say. Maybe all his goddamn money won't help Romney and the majority of the GOP will get their favorite idiot, instead of the richest idiot........
Last summer and fall all the liberal radio hosts said: "No, Romney won't be the candidate, the Republicans hate him too much." Now they're like: "Romney has too much money, the Republicans can't get another candidate, because money has too much power."
My answer: All you liberal radio hosts have much more political experience than I have. I learned a lot from you all and I love you. But after all, as I experienced over the last months.....
" Anyone who has had an abortion, participated in an abortion, supports an abortion, he or she is automatically excommunicated from the Catholic Church." CCC#2273
At the World Youth Day Celebrations in Madrid, Spain; the Vatican offered women who had been excommunicated because of having an abortion, forgiveness and the return to the Church for the six days that the celebrations were held. Normally, only certain priest are given the power to forgive such sins; however the Vatican gave all priests the right to hear confessions in the 200 confessional booths and to lift the punishment of excommunication. While listening to a discussion on Chris Matthews MSNBC program with a panel of Catholic faithful; it was obvious that they had no knowledge of the Vatican's six day allowance for forgiveness.
The Spanish government, while dealing with financial crisis, participated by covering a portion of the $72 million cost. Information from Reuters and Huffington Post...August 17, 2011
Republicans are alaways trying kill unions and goverment programs, and they do it by death by a thousand cuts. The response you gave is exactly what the GOP wants(IT DOESN'T SEEM SO BAD) and next year it might go from 50% to 65%. the GOP has a all out attack on public unions and private unions are next. The GOP has the postal service at the brink and medicare is on the horizon
Any of the Republican candidates would roll back progressive gains and be a disaster for the country, but the win of Santorum has at least one positive aspect. It shows that people are not always swayed by relentless TV coverage. Maybe a blanket of TV ads will not guarantee election of whoever has the most money. Maybe there is a limit on what money can do. Let's certainly hope so. Otherwise we are at the mercy of corporations.
The Super PACs like GE can speak with billions of dollars now with the Citizens United and recycle their money through their news media like NBC with a message. General Electric now owns 49% of NBC Universal. Wow, a Win, Win situation...
Evangelicals and Catholic "gods" do not allow choice. Choice is heresy, in many minds of many church leaders and radical evangelicals.
The "attack on religion" is nothing of the kind. The provision simply makes sure that all employees of a Catholic (or other church) institution (except the churches themselves) have access to birth control. Denying it to any employee, no matter what their religion, is an attack on religion and on choice.
This is a drummed-up mantra that is clearly an attempt to label Obama unChristian. People like Boehner, who I seriously doubt is very religious, think it's a gift to their party and the ignorant people within it.
One thing is certain GOP is in complete disarray. But we must beware of GOP voter supression This is very serious and will stop millions from getting to voting places. GOP is limiting early voting and in many small towns there is no DMV close by.. Birth certicates cost money The Disabled ,students, elderly may not have the 'correct' ID This is in the same vein as the Bush 2000 stealing of that election. I am sure Gore would not have led us to global crash / TARP or lied us into Iraq ..wasting lives and trillions .Look what a difference a few votes made. Read learn and vote .
You do not understand. They want the children, since it is the children who are susceptible to adult propaganda from their parents and become "good little Catholics," just like you and me. That is why they oppose birth control.
I can understand how a Catholic or Evangelical Christian could be opposed to abortion. I do not understand their opposition to choice, since their God allows choice. Do they think they are better than God? And if they do not believe in abortion, no one forces them to have one. Just as no one forces them to engage in birth control, or to marry a gay person if they are straight. They are really confused, so show some compasion, okay?
And, as far as insurance is concerned, they know that reproductive care is low cost for insurance... in fact it may cost less since it results in fewer pregnancy claims.
The idea that churches are exempt from taxes is stupid to start with. The power to tax may be the power to destroy, but if they are simply taxed as a business, and no special taxes are imposed, that is a spurious argument. So I say, that is a good way to balance the budget... tax the Churches!
If the theater would stop, and there was any truth in advertising in American politics, then Obama would be the candidate for both the Republican and Democrat factions of the corporate party.
My prediction: a brokered Repuglican convention. They nominate Jeb Bush, hijack the voting machines in FL, OH, IL, and a few other states, steal the election and eliminate all taxes on incomes over $500,000 so that those people will be able to create jobs, which they do in various off shore banks. Also, they will establish a gold standard for US currency.
Then they will shut down Medicaid, followed in short order by Medicare. And they will 'privatize' Social Security, dumping all of the US bonds and purchasing stocks. Which drives up the stock market so they can sell their shares at a handsome profit and purchase distressed real estate, just before the ultimate market crash.
By which time the only thing of value any worker in America will have left will be his children, and so the Administration (also controlling Congress and SCOTUS) will pass a bill allowing the sale of children...
Viola! Erased: everything since just before A.Lincoln took office.
Will it all happen? I don't know. I am just an optimist!
Wouldn't you know it though. No sooner do we get better jobs and employment numbers than the fight turns to stupid social issues that mean nothing. Here we go again on birth control and abortion. Never mind that the Vatican has a huge portfolio of investments in the very companies that produce contraceptives. I long ago considered the Catholic Church a business. Maybe a not for profit business but there are plenty of ways to dispose of profits. What they do not want to do is carry the cost of the more expensive insurance that covers birth control too. An institution that is run by men and for their benefit it seems. What a checkered past they have to be preaching morals.
Regarding the comment on senators not caring if they are reelected because they are only in it for the $million lobbying job they will get after they leave office; this is a very sad situation. Lobbying congress is a constitutional right and should never be restricted, but a law should be passed to make it illegal to pay someone to lobby congress and illegal to accept pay for lobbying services.
One's incentive to lobby should come from a desire to effect change, not a desire to line their pocket.
I don't know who's going to be the nominee, but if Romney wins the presidency, my wife and I are moving to Canada, and if Santorum wins, we have both agreed to jump in the "Mon." (The Monongahela river here in Pittsburgh)
A n a r c h i s m -- and Related Ideas of the 1800s is now under my profile, here on Thom's website (click my avatar). Same goes for the historic sources about the difference between LIBERAL and LIBERTARIAN.
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On this topic: As I said somewhere before, I am for domiciliary arrest. Our prisons are too full anyway and these banksters aren't actually extremely dangerous. More important to me: taking the banks away from the banksters and socialize them. If the police can take away a citizen's driver licenense, it can be constitutional as well to nationalize banks. Germany's regional state banks ("Landesbanken") are good and absolutely trustworthy and reliable service providers.
Down in Tampa by leighmf, on Down in Tampa as a good place for the upcoming Republican Convention
Oh Port of Tampa, Prince of routes, pirates, mobsters, concrete boots- wilt thou now raise a President a man of millions, on himself spent?
Down in Tampa were Tampa cigars, whiskey barges, and a lot of train cars; Port Commissioners and legislators, each shoe and belt, skinned alligators.
"Dear sugar and tobacco slaves, we at Colonial really miss you. So with Cuban bankers we have made gold bonds of special issue. From our Port we will export all the railroad rails you need for transporting rum and cigars like a country up to speed. To you our rolling stock we lease as guarantee we'll have a piece of every leaf and cane you raise." (Then we'll under-price you anyways).
And thus Fidel the Castro came, and Cuba never was the same.
This morning's comments on the bankster settlement via Eric Holder. I foresee a crack in their wall; i.e. they are making a "federal AG deal" to escape prosecution by the FEDS, right? What is to prevent someone who has been foreclosed, forced into bankruptcy, from filing a Chapter 13 (personal reorganization) bankruptcy; APPLYING FEDERAL RULE 2004, uncovering fraud, and then suing in Civil Court for damages, using someone like Gerry Spense and giving the banksters a "real" black eye?
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It may be important to note that an aneurysm by itself doesn't kill you; it's the bursting that causes the real trouble. An aneurysm is a ballooned and usually weakened blood vessel, and when it bursts bleeding is hard to control. An abdominal aortic aneurysm (called a "triple-a") is especially bad, since it involves nearly half the body's blood supply, and it can often go untreated because it is perceived by the patient as lower back pain (sort of the same way that menstrual cramps are), which may make the sufferer think it's not all that serious.
An aneurysm can be treated, making the bursting less likely. Another example of why preventive medicine is preferable to emergency medicine.
28 states already, uncontroversially, require prescription coverage for birth control.
No observant Catholic is required to obtain birth control, even if it is covered by their health insurance.
When church affiliated entities knowingly hire non-coreligionists, they do not and can not expect (or require) them to follow Church teachings in their private lives. To do so would be violation of their employees' religious liberty.
The employer is not actually paying for health insurance - the employee is - it is part of their compensation package and belongs to them, not the employer. No one would argue that your employer has a right to tell you anything else you can pay for with your earnings - they don't have a right to say you can't buy porn with the money you earned from them, or that you aren't allowed to buy a certain kind of shoes, or a kosher brisket.
It is the employees who are paying for the health insurance, with their labor. Just because a benefit is available does not mean they are required to use it. There is no violation of religious liberty in offering benefit they may not use, but there is a violation of religious liberty when an employeer imposes their religious requirements on a non-coreligionist employee.
If the government can make requirements to provide birth control, how hypocritical is it that they can at the same time continue to hold that Medical Marijuana is completely illegal.
However you feel about either issue, it seems to me that having the government decide what is or isn't permissable outside of declaring if the medicine is safe, is a bad idea.
If birth control is safe, then if an insurer wants to provide it or not, should be up to the insurer. If medical marijuana is safe, then it should be up to an insurer if they wish to provide for it or not. For that matter, it shouldn't even be up to the insurance company, but the individual doctor and patient. Same for vegitarian dishes at hospitals so on and so forth.
Therefore if I'm a teacher at a Catholic High School, and I go to a doctor because of symptoms I'm having, it should be between my doctor and me what therapies and medicines I'll be taking. I shouldn't have to go to my employer and ask if its ok with them, nor should I fear that I'll be arrested for having possession of my medicine. Not withstanding that I'm under the influence of a potent medicine that affects my job performance at the job, or while driving my car on public roads.
Still not sure why it is essential for people to be provided birth control, I always thought taking it was optional for people, nor that it was something that is known to save someone's life (maybe save their quality of life, but that's a different issue).
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Happy to hear Thom's back, though Carl Frisch was a great substitute and really deserves to go national.
And so we take a nother step towards both a Corporate Fascist Police State and the inevitable response...which is of course a revolution...and frankly one that likely will be violent.... how could it be otherwise?
HA! Maybe this is my great chance to finally find my own opinion. Maybe the power of money isn't so piercing as pessimistic liberals tend to say. Maybe all his goddamn money won't help Romney and the majority of the GOP will get their favorite idiot, instead of the richest idiot........
Last summer and fall all the liberal radio hosts said: "No, Romney won't be the candidate, the Republicans hate him too much." Now they're like: "Romney has too much money, the Republicans can't get another candidate, because money has too much power."
My answer: All you liberal radio hosts have much more political experience than I have. I learned a lot from you all and I love you. But after all, as I experienced over the last months.....
It often comes different. ;)
Yep, that is the republican plan BUSHH III
Folks, it will be Jeb Bush. The clown show is just a distraction before the conventation
" Anyone who has had an abortion, participated in an abortion, supports an abortion, he or she is automatically excommunicated from the Catholic Church." CCC#2273
At the World Youth Day Celebrations in Madrid, Spain; the Vatican offered women who had been excommunicated because of having an abortion, forgiveness and the return to the Church for the six days that the celebrations were held. Normally, only certain priest are given the power to forgive such sins; however the Vatican gave all priests the right to hear confessions in the 200 confessional booths and to lift the punishment of excommunication. While listening to a discussion on Chris Matthews MSNBC program with a panel of Catholic faithful; it was obvious that they had no knowledge of the Vatican's six day allowance for forgiveness.
The Spanish government, while dealing with financial crisis, participated by covering a portion of the $72 million cost. Information from Reuters and Huffington Post...August 17, 2011
Republicans are alaways trying kill unions and goverment programs, and they do it by death by a thousand cuts. The response you gave is exactly what the GOP wants(IT DOESN'T SEEM SO BAD) and next year it might go from 50% to 65%. the GOP has a all out attack on public unions and private unions are next. The GOP has the postal service at the brink and medicare is on the horizon
Any of the Republican candidates would roll back progressive gains and be a disaster for the country, but the win of Santorum has at least one positive aspect. It shows that people are not always swayed by relentless TV coverage. Maybe a blanket of TV ads will not guarantee election of whoever has the most money. Maybe there is a limit on what money can do. Let's certainly hope so. Otherwise we are at the mercy of corporations.
The Super PACs like GE can speak with billions of dollars now with the Citizens United and recycle their money through their news media like NBC with a message. General Electric now owns 49% of NBC Universal. Wow, a Win, Win situation...
Evangelicals and Catholic "gods" do not allow choice. Choice is heresy, in many minds of many church leaders and radical evangelicals.
The "attack on religion" is nothing of the kind. The provision simply makes sure that all employees of a Catholic (or other church) institution (except the churches themselves) have access to birth control. Denying it to any employee, no matter what their religion, is an attack on religion and on choice.
This is a drummed-up mantra that is clearly an attempt to label Obama unChristian. People like Boehner, who I seriously doubt is very religious, think it's a gift to their party and the ignorant people within it.
One thing is certain GOP is in complete disarray. But we must beware of GOP voter supression This is very serious and will stop millions from getting to voting places. GOP is limiting early voting and in many small towns there is no DMV close by.. Birth certicates cost money The Disabled ,students, elderly may not have the 'correct' ID This is in the same vein as the Bush 2000 stealing of that election. I am sure Gore would not have led us to global crash / TARP or lied us into Iraq ..wasting lives and trillions .Look what a difference a few votes made. Read learn and vote .
You do not understand. They want the children, since it is the children who are susceptible to adult propaganda from their parents and become "good little Catholics," just like you and me. That is why they oppose birth control.
I can understand how a Catholic or Evangelical Christian could be opposed to abortion. I do not understand their opposition to choice, since their God allows choice. Do they think they are better than God? And if they do not believe in abortion, no one forces them to have one. Just as no one forces them to engage in birth control, or to marry a gay person if they are straight. They are really confused, so show some compasion, okay?
And, as far as insurance is concerned, they know that reproductive care is low cost for insurance... in fact it may cost less since it results in fewer pregnancy claims.
The idea that churches are exempt from taxes is stupid to start with. The power to tax may be the power to destroy, but if they are simply taxed as a business, and no special taxes are imposed, that is a spurious argument. So I say, that is a good way to balance the budget... tax the Churches!
If the theater would stop, and there was any truth in advertising in American politics, then Obama would be the candidate for both the Republican and Democrat factions of the corporate party.
Jill Stein for President:
http://www.jillstein.org
Voter Consent Wastes Dissent:
http://chenangogreens.org/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id...
My prediction: a brokered Repuglican convention. They nominate Jeb Bush, hijack the voting machines in FL, OH, IL, and a few other states, steal the election and eliminate all taxes on incomes over $500,000 so that those people will be able to create jobs, which they do in various off shore banks. Also, they will establish a gold standard for US currency.
Then they will shut down Medicaid, followed in short order by Medicare. And they will 'privatize' Social Security, dumping all of the US bonds and purchasing stocks. Which drives up the stock market so they can sell their shares at a handsome profit and purchase distressed real estate, just before the ultimate market crash.
By which time the only thing of value any worker in America will have left will be his children, and so the Administration (also controlling Congress and SCOTUS) will pass a bill allowing the sale of children...
Viola! Erased: everything since just before A.Lincoln took office.
Will it all happen? I don't know. I am just an optimist!
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Wouldn't you know it though. No sooner do we get better jobs and employment numbers than the fight turns to stupid social issues that mean nothing. Here we go again on birth control and abortion. Never mind that the Vatican has a huge portfolio of investments in the very companies that produce contraceptives. I long ago considered the Catholic Church a business. Maybe a not for profit business but there are plenty of ways to dispose of profits. What they do not want to do is carry the cost of the more expensive insurance that covers birth control too. An institution that is run by men and for their benefit it seems. What a checkered past they have to be preaching morals.
Regarding the comment on senators not caring if they are reelected because they are only in it for the $million lobbying job they will get after they leave office; this is a very sad situation. Lobbying congress is a constitutional right and should never be restricted, but a law should be passed to make it illegal to pay someone to lobby congress and illegal to accept pay for lobbying services.
One's incentive to lobby should come from a desire to effect change, not a desire to line their pocket.
Simple as that.
It looks like the Republican electorate spoke in spite of the Super PACs, but they still don’t know what they are talking about…
I don't know who's going to be the nominee, but if Romney wins the presidency, my wife and I are moving to Canada, and if Santorum wins, we have both agreed to jump in the "Mon." (The Monongahela river here in Pittsburgh)
A n a r c h i s m -- and Related Ideas of the 1800s is now under my profile, here on Thom's website (click my avatar). Same goes for the historic sources about the difference between LIBERAL and LIBERTARIAN.
_________________________________________
On this topic: As I said somewhere before, I am for domiciliary arrest. Our prisons are too full anyway and these banksters aren't actually extremely dangerous. More important to me: taking the banks away from the banksters and socialize them. If the police can take away a citizen's driver licenense, it can be constitutional as well to nationalize banks. Germany's regional state banks ("Landesbanken") are good and absolutely trustworthy and reliable service providers.
********GET WELL AGAIN SOON, THOM!********
Down in Tampa by leighmf, on Down in Tampa as a good place for the upcoming Republican Convention
Oh Port of Tampa, Prince of routes,
pirates, mobsters, concrete boots-
wilt thou now raise a President
a man of millions, on himself spent?
Down in Tampa
were Tampa cigars,
whiskey barges, and a lot of train cars;
Port Commissioners and legislators,
each shoe and belt, skinned alligators.
"Dear sugar and tobacco slaves,
we at Colonial really miss you.
So with Cuban bankers we have made
gold bonds of special issue.
From our Port we will export
all the railroad rails you need
for transporting rum and cigars
like a country up to speed.
To you our rolling stock we lease
as guarantee we'll have a piece
of every leaf and cane you raise."
(Then we'll under-price you anyways).
And thus Fidel the Castro came, and Cuba never was the same.