"I'm going to have to drop you as well like some of the other people in here. I can't handle your Obama schizophrenia anymore. When you figure out where you stand maybe you'll start making more sense."
Your words - see your comment above. Short term memory maybe?
And oh, I am A Vietnam Veteran, worked DOD for 30 years AND Retired!
I just love my Country, the Constitution, our voting previliges and intelligent discourse. And as to your last post I do not believe that the discouse is going to be anywhere near Intelligent. So this is it. And unless my short term memory also ceases to function, no more discourse.
Amen to that! But the danger is the vile and vicious Propaganda coming from the Right and the 30-40 Million people it infests and lies to. Pre 1980 we in America had a decent political discourse which was "Fair And Balanced". There just was not anything like this demented gibberish coming from right-wing media - the reason being that the people usually got to listen to "Both" sides of any argument. But in 1985 and after, the FCC has pretty much ignored the "Fairness Doctrine" which has given rise to the now gigantic propagnada media conglomerates like Fox Noise" and Right-Wing Radio. If you Listen to these Media outlets you certainly do not get "2 sides" of any argument - you get Propaganda that favors The Right and Coporate interests; And lies and distortions. No one to counter the argument. So Rush Limbaugh and his ilk can rant and rave 24/7 with no counter-argument! Pure propaganda and nonsense reaching the ears and minds of 30-40 Million Americans as if this rant were fact and true!
And so now Fox owner Rupert Murdoch and his corporate buddies are in Europe trying to buy and consolidate most of the Media outlets available there so as to propagate this vile propaganda there also!
""Companies controlled by the family of Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi dominate Italian commercial television (with a 45% audience share and over 60% of total advertising sales), have a major presence in advertising and publishing, and have been moving into telecommunications, despite recurrent allegations of of impropriety.
Alexander Stille's 2006 The Sack of Rome offered an analogy for US readers -
Imagine that Silvio Berlusconi were Bill Gates. Aside from being the richest man in the United States, Gates would own or control all but one of our TV networks, along with Time Warner, HBO, Aetna, Fidelity, The Los Angeles Times, and the New York Yankees. And he would have been our president and commanded a majority in Congress, until barely losing an election" http://ketupa.net/berlusconi.htm
This is what Neo-Conservative Right Wing, Corporate Plutocrats have in store for us all - complete Fascist control of us all.
If they actually believe that this will work for them in the long run, then they are deluded and simply do not read nor learn from history - they are basically being deluded by their own propaganda!
DEAD KENNEDYS - We've Got A Bigger Problem Now (California Uber Alles)
Last call for alcohol. Last call for your freedom of speech. Drink up. Happy hour is now enforced by law. Don't forget our house special, it's called a Trickie Dickie Screwdriver. It's got one part Jack Daniels, two parts purple Kool-Aid, and a jigger of formaldehyde from the jar with Hitler's brain in it we got in the back storeroom. Happy trails to you. Happy trails to you.
I am Emperor Ronald Reagan Born again with fascist cravings Still, you made me president
Human rights will soon go 'way I am now your Shah today Now I command all of you Now you're going to pray in school I'll make sure they're Christian too
California Uber alles Uber alles California
Ku Klux Klan will control you Still you think it's natural Nigger knockin' for the master race Still you wear the happy face
You closed your eyes, can't happen here Alexander Haig is near Vietnam won't come back you say Join the army or you will pay
California Uber alles Uber alles California
Yeah, that's it. Just relax. Have another drink, few more pretzels, little more MSG. Turn on those Dallas Cowboys on your TV. Lock your doors. Close your mind. It's time for the two-minute warning.
Welcome to 1984
Are you ready for the third world war?!? You too will meet the secret police They'll draft you and they'll jail your niece
You'll go quitely to boot camp They'll shoot you dead, make you a man Don't you worry, it's for a cause Feeding global corporations' claws
Die on our brand new poison gas El Salvador or Afghanistan Making money for President Reagan And all the friends of President Reagan
You are absolutely correct. The Republican Party does not want, nor have they ever wanted any kind of a Democracy where the common person or especially the poor have any kind of a voice in anything in government. They have always been and always will be against any kind of a social program that benefits the middle class or the poor. This is exactly what the people of Egypt are fighting against. A Republican idea of small government, a dictator, and the poor are lucky to get any table scraps from their table. This new Republican Party does not belong in this country!! I vote for repeal of the present Republican Party for one that used to work with the Democratic Party and made some semblance of common sense. Not the crazies we have today!!
Well there is one word for this - Treason! The slave owners of the South tried this pre-1860. Result - Civil War.
I for one will be on the side of America, its Constitution, and our Democracy. This sort of Totalitarian idiocy coming from the Right is nothing short of treasonous and seditious. If the right seriously believes that our Democracy will willingly be given up by "True" Americans, they are taking too many Fox Noise drugs!
Right Wing America - wake up! This Country belongs all to "All" Americans, not just to the "Plutocrats" and the neo-conservatives and the Fundamentalists. You are being brainwashed by the corporate elites who have only one thing in mind - complete control of you mind and your lives. Do you actually and honestly believe that once Democracy would be eliminated and a “one party” rule instated, that the new Totalitarians will willingly give it back to you? If you do, then you are totally deluded.
Read a bit of history and inform yourselves as to what happens to movements that challenged Democratic Governments and want to replace with one party rule - They lost! Germany of the 1930s is one prime example of this. A Democratic nation wanted to purify itself against what they also saw as a "deteriorate" and "infestation” of their way of life. History DOES have something to teach so as to avoid the proverbial “History Repeats Itself” for those who chose not to heed it!
So, the only way they can win is by doing underhanded things. I hope they are taking a close look at what is going on in Egypt, and realize that what they want to achieve in this country would lead to the people being just as unhappy.
Would I sleep with Boehner for that much money? No, because I'd never get it anyway. The waiting list would be so long, filled with corporations and lobbyists, I'd die before my turn ever came up.
Is there anyone who ever remembers, changing their mind from the paint on a sign? Is there anyone who really recalls ever breaking rank at all for something someone yelled real loud one time? Oh, everyone believes ..... in how they think it oughta be. Oh everyone believes -- and they're not going easily.
Belief is the beautiful armor; makes for the heaviest sword. Like punching underwater; you never can hit who you're trying for. Some need the exhibition; some have to know they tried. It's the chemical weapon for the war that's raging on inside.
Oh, everyone believes. From emptiness to everything. Oh, everyone believes...And no one's going quietly.
We're never gonna win the world; we're never gonna stop the war. We're never gonna beat this if belief is what we're fighting for. We're never gonna win the world; we're never gonna stop the war. We're never gonna beat this if belief is what we're fighting for.
Is there anyone who can remember ever surrender with their life on the line?
We're never gonna win the world; we're never gonna stop the war. We're never gonna beat this if belief is what we're fighting for. We're never gonna win the world; we're never gonna stop this war. We're never gonna beat this if belief is what we're fighting for.
What puts one hundred thousand children in the sand? belief can, belief can.
What puts the folded flag inside his mother's hand? Belief can; belief can.
"Cry Freedom" by Dave Matthews Band, is appropriate, especially now. This song is about Apartheid (specifically Steve Biko) and could also apply to the Egyptian struggle.
How can I turn away?
Brother, Sister go dancing through my head. Human as to Human,
The future is no place
to place your better days.
Cry Freedom, cry
from a crowd ten thousand wide.
Hope laid up on hope
that this crowd will not subside.
Let this flag burn to dust
and a new, of fair design be raised.
While we wait, head in hands, hands in prayer
And fall into a dreamless sleep again.
And we wave our hands.
Hands and feet are all in line
But gold between divide us;
Hands and feet are all in line
but fear between divide us.
So, we slip away.
There was a window, and by it stood a mirror in which he could see himself.
He thought of something -- something he
had never had but hoped would come along.
Cry freedom, cry
From deep inside, where we are all confined.
While we wave, hands in fire
Wave our hands.
Hands and feet are all in line
But gold between divide us
Hands and feet are all in line
But fear between divide us,
So let us Slip away
In this room stood a little child
And in this room this little child
She would remain
Until someone might decide
To dance this little child
Across this hall
Into a cold, dark, space
Where she might never trace her way across this crooked mile
Across this crooked page
Cry freedom, cry
From deep inside where
We are all confined
Till we wave our hands
How can I turn away?
Brother/Sister go dancing
Through my head
Human as to human
The future is no place
To place your better days
Hands and feet are all in line
But gold between divide us
Hands and feet are all in line
But fear between divide us
Hands and feet are all in line
Hear what I say
Hear what I say
Oh, so be it clear
and we dance away
How can I turn away?
Brother/Sister go dancing
Through my head
Human as to human
The future is no place
To place your better days.
Yes because I know that he's good for it, if he doesn't pay me right away, he'll at the very least give me a check for my services on the House floor...after a vote...live on C-SPAN.
Absolutely I would sleep with him for $350,000.00, provided I was paid upfront, and here's why:
Over the course of my life I've been screwed by nearly every corporation for whom I've worked. I've been screwed by nearly every President that's been in office. I've been screwed by every Congress that's been in session. I've been screwed by State agencies, utility companies, energy companies and my news media. I've been screwed so long and so hard I no longer even NOTICE now, when I'm being screwed.
It would be positively REFRESHING to find myself with a check in hand after being screwed because that, dear Thom, is never how my screw sessions ever end.
The US Mint couldn't print enough money in 10,000 years for me to sleep with that icky orange beast from the hallows of hell! That's just nauseating. I wouldn't sleep with anyone who smokes, let alone an amoral republicon...
As I listened to Nat Edderley's trumpet rendition of "I Married an Angel," I saw myself dancing with my angel.
"I'm going to have to drop you as well like some of the other people in here. I can't handle your Obama schizophrenia anymore. When you figure out where you stand maybe you'll start making more sense."
Your words - see your comment above. Short term memory maybe?
And oh, I am A Vietnam Veteran, worked DOD for 30 years AND Retired!
I just love my Country, the Constitution, our voting previliges and intelligent discourse. And as to your last post I do not believe that the discouse is going to be anywhere near Intelligent. So this is it. And unless my short term memory also ceases to function, no more discourse.
Amen to that! But the danger is the vile and vicious Propaganda coming from the Right and the 30-40 Million people it infests and lies to. Pre 1980 we in America had a decent political discourse which was "Fair And Balanced". There just was not anything like this demented gibberish coming from right-wing media - the reason being that the people usually got to listen to "Both" sides of any argument. But in 1985 and after, the FCC has pretty much ignored the "Fairness Doctrine" which has given rise to the now gigantic propagnada media conglomerates like Fox Noise" and Right-Wing Radio. If you Listen to these Media outlets you certainly do not get "2 sides" of any argument - you get Propaganda that favors The Right and Coporate interests; And lies and distortions. No one to counter the argument. So Rush Limbaugh and his ilk can rant and rave 24/7 with no counter-argument! Pure propaganda and nonsense reaching the ears and minds of 30-40 Million Americans as if this rant were fact and true!
And so now Fox owner Rupert Murdoch and his corporate buddies are in Europe trying to buy and consolidate most of the Media outlets available there so as to propagate this vile propaganda there also!
""Companies controlled by the family of Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi dominate Italian commercial television (with a 45% audience share and over 60% of total advertising sales), have a major presence in advertising and publishing, and have been moving into telecommunications, despite recurrent allegations of of impropriety.
Alexander Stille's 2006 The Sack of Rome offered an analogy for US readers -
Imagine that Silvio Berlusconi were Bill Gates. Aside from being the richest man in the United States, Gates would own or control all but one of our TV networks, along with Time Warner, HBO, Aetna, Fidelity, The Los Angeles Times, and the New York Yankees. And he would have been our president and commanded a majority in Congress, until barely losing an election" http://ketupa.net/berlusconi.htm
This is what Neo-Conservative Right Wing, Corporate Plutocrats have in store for us all - complete Fascist control of us all.
If they actually believe that this will work for them in the long run, then they are deluded and simply do not read nor learn from history - they are basically being deluded by their own propaganda!
DEAD KENNEDYS - We've Got A Bigger Problem Now (California Uber Alles)
Last call for alcohol.
Last call for your freedom of speech.
Drink up. Happy hour is now enforced by law.
Don't forget our house special, it's called a Trickie Dickie Screwdriver.
It's got one part Jack Daniels, two parts purple Kool-Aid,
and a jigger of formaldehyde
from the jar with Hitler's brain in it we got in the back storeroom.
Happy trails to you. Happy trails to you.
I am Emperor Ronald Reagan
Born again with fascist cravings
Still, you made me president
Human rights will soon go 'way
I am now your Shah today
Now I command all of you
Now you're going to pray in school
I'll make sure they're Christian too
California Uber alles
Uber alles California
Ku Klux Klan will control you
Still you think it's natural
Nigger knockin' for the master race
Still you wear the happy face
You closed your eyes, can't happen here
Alexander Haig is near
Vietnam won't come back you say
Join the army or you will pay
California Uber alles
Uber alles California
Yeah, that's it. Just relax.
Have another drink, few more pretzels, little more MSG.
Turn on those Dallas Cowboys on your TV.
Lock your doors. Close your mind.
It's time for the two-minute warning.
Welcome to 1984
Are you ready for the third world war?!?
You too will meet the secret police
They'll draft you and they'll jail your niece
You'll go quitely to boot camp
They'll shoot you dead, make you a man
Don't you worry, it's for a cause
Feeding global corporations' claws
Die on our brand new poison gas
El Salvador or Afghanistan
Making money for President Reagan
And all the friends of President Reagan
California Uber alles
Uber alles California
AGAINST ME! - White People For Peace
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY9TbZMlTaI
I cant believe what i just
I cant believe what i just read. If they repeal the voters rights act and get there way of a one party rule the next step would be slavery
Not before a Civil War is waged - it just will not happen.
You are absolutely correct. The Republican Party does not want, nor have they ever wanted any kind of a Democracy where the common person or especially the poor have any kind of a voice in anything in government. They have always been and always will be against any kind of a social program that benefits the middle class or the poor. This is exactly what the people of Egypt are fighting against. A Republican idea of small government, a dictator, and the poor are lucky to get any table scraps from their table. This new Republican Party does not belong in this country!! I vote for repeal of the present Republican Party for one that used to work with the Democratic Party and made some semblance of common sense. Not the crazies we have today!!
Well there is one word for this - Treason! The slave owners of the South tried this pre-1860. Result - Civil War.
I for one will be on the side of America, its Constitution, and our Democracy. This sort of Totalitarian idiocy coming from the Right is nothing short of treasonous and seditious. If the right seriously believes that our Democracy will willingly be given up by "True" Americans, they are taking too many Fox Noise drugs!
Right Wing America - wake up! This Country belongs all to "All" Americans, not just to the "Plutocrats" and the neo-conservatives and the Fundamentalists. You are being brainwashed by the corporate elites who have only one thing in mind - complete control of you mind and your lives. Do you actually and honestly believe that once Democracy would be eliminated and a “one party” rule instated, that the new Totalitarians will willingly give it back to you? If you do, then you are totally deluded.
Read a bit of history and inform yourselves as to what happens to movements that challenged Democratic Governments and want to replace with one party rule - They lost! Germany of the 1930s is one prime example of this. A Democratic nation wanted to purify itself against what they also saw as a "deteriorate" and "infestation” of their way of life. History DOES have something to teach so as to avoid the proverbial “History Repeats Itself” for those who chose not to heed it!
You guys HAVE to play: "Ohio" by CSNY!!!
And let's not forget Mr. Anti War himself... Neil Young and his song "Love and War off his newest album "LaNoise".
Let my people go.
I cant believe what i just read. If they repeal the voters rights act and get there way of a one party rule the next step would be slavery
So, the only way they can win is by doing underhanded things. I hope they are taking a close look at what is going on in Egypt, and realize that what they want to achieve in this country would lead to the people being just as unhappy.
"Travelin' Soldier" written by Bruce Robison, recorded by the Dixie Chicks, also Sheryl Crow
Not for all the money in the world! Give me credit for having some standards.
Would I sleep with Boehner for that much money? No, because I'd never get it anyway. The waiting list would be so long, filled with corporations and lobbyists, I'd die before my turn ever came up.
Galveston - Jimmy Webb
Also, "Belief" by John Mayer
Is there anyone who ever remembers, changing their mind from the paint on a sign? Is there anyone who really recalls ever breaking rank at all for something someone yelled real loud one time? Oh, everyone believes ..... in how they think it oughta be. Oh everyone believes -- and they're not going easily.
Belief is the beautiful armor; makes for the heaviest sword. Like punching underwater; you never can hit who you're trying for. Some need the exhibition; some have to know they tried. It's the chemical weapon for the war that's raging on inside.
Oh, everyone believes. From emptiness to everything. Oh, everyone believes...And no one's going quietly.
We're never gonna win the world; we're never gonna stop the war. We're never gonna beat this if belief is what we're fighting for. We're never gonna win the world; we're never gonna stop the war. We're never gonna beat this if belief is what we're fighting for.
Is there anyone who can remember ever surrender with their life on the line?
We're never gonna win the world; we're never gonna stop the war. We're never gonna beat this if belief is what we're fighting for. We're never gonna win the world; we're never gonna stop this war. We're never gonna beat this if belief is what we're fighting for.
What puts one hundred thousand children in the sand? belief can, belief can.
What puts the folded flag inside his mother's hand? Belief can; belief can.
"Cry Freedom" by Dave Matthews Band, is appropriate, especially now. This song is about Apartheid (specifically Steve Biko) and could also apply to the Egyptian struggle.
How can I turn away?
Brother, Sister go dancing through my head. Human as to Human,
The future is no place
to place your better days.
Cry Freedom, cry
from a crowd ten thousand wide.
Hope laid up on hope
that this crowd will not subside.
Let this flag burn to dust
and a new, of fair design be raised.
While we wait, head in hands, hands in prayer
And fall into a dreamless sleep again.
And we wave our hands.
Hands and feet are all in line
But gold between divide us;
Hands and feet are all in line
but fear between divide us.
So, we slip away.
There was a window, and by it stood a mirror in which he could see himself.
He thought of something -- something he
had never had but hoped would come along.
Cry freedom, cry
From deep inside, where we are all confined.
While we wave, hands in fire
Wave our hands.
Hands and feet are all in line
But gold between divide us
Hands and feet are all in line
But fear between divide us,
So let us Slip away
In this room stood a little child
And in this room this little child
She would remain
Until someone might decide
To dance this little child
Across this hall
Into a cold, dark, space
Where she might never trace her way across this crooked mile
Across this crooked page
Cry freedom, cry
From deep inside where
We are all confined
Till we wave our hands
How can I turn away?
Brother/Sister go dancing
Through my head
Human as to human
The future is no place
To place your better days
Hands and feet are all in line
But gold between divide us
Hands and feet are all in line
But fear between divide us
Hands and feet are all in line
Hear what I say
Hear what I say
Oh, so be it clear
and we dance away
How can I turn away?
Brother/Sister go dancing
Through my head
Human as to human
The future is no place
To place your better days.
Would have to - lost job due to the economy, cant sell the house, going broke.
Yes because I know that he's good for it, if he doesn't pay me right away, he'll at the very least give me a check for my services on the House floor...after a vote...live on C-SPAN.
No Way. Not with that walking Cheeto.
Absolutely I would sleep with him for $350,000.00, provided I was paid upfront, and here's why:
Over the course of my life I've been screwed by nearly every corporation for whom I've worked. I've been screwed by nearly every President that's been in office. I've been screwed by every Congress that's been in session. I've been screwed by State agencies, utility companies, energy companies and my news media. I've been screwed so long and so hard I no longer even NOTICE now, when I'm being screwed.
It would be positively REFRESHING to find myself with a check in hand after being screwed because that, dear Thom, is never how my screw sessions ever end.
The US Mint couldn't print enough money in 10,000 years for me to sleep with that icky orange beast from the hallows of hell! That's just nauseating. I wouldn't sleep with anyone who smokes, let alone an amoral republicon...
As long as he didnt start crying at the end....
As an Irishman I could list about 200 war and anti war songs here but I will play nice and leave with this
Natalie Merchant. Gun Shy.