Idle hands are the Devil's playground; idle minds are the Devil's playground. There's nothing to do here anymore but win the lottery or figure out some way to gain celebrity. Though on Craigslist, women may now sell their eggs starting at $8,000. There are also many openings for young girls willing to work as naked housekeepers or half-nude personal assistants.
We used to have diverse working communities, the highest-quality manufactured products, the safest-produced food, the best quality of life in the world, the highest morals, or so they said.
That's why we had to be tricked out of our greatness, so it is no longer ours, but gone over to the Old World Oppressor from which emigrating freedom seekers sought to escape originally. Wake, oh wake- we're headed for Hell in a Jardines Fleming Walker handbag before long.
@rladlof, I can agree in part about WWII being an extension of WWI, in a lot of ways Germany was provoked into it by the terms imposed upon it by the Allies. Some of the harshest of terms being championed by the French, who had the loudest voice at the table since it was their land that was most renowned for the war. I would say there is even an argument that if America had stayed out of the war, that the end of that war would have eventually ended in a draw, perhaps a year or two later than it did. But WWII didn't just involve the Europeans, there were major Asian countries at War, even prior to Germany invading Poland. Russia was hostile to its neighbors prior to Germany invading it, Finland and Poland can attest to that. Italy under Mussolini was acting aggressively too, though ineptly in Africa. The Spanish Civil War was a fascist war (a war Germany happily tested it weapons in) vs a Republic government.
All in all, yes you could make an argument that the two wars were really one, but I look at WWI as a War that dissolved the last vestiges of Royal Families powers in Europe. WWII was the War that decided what would replace those power vacuums. I don't think that could have happened without the end of WWI and then the building of the new experimental governments that took place after it. Basically I would say the near 20 year period between the wars was more than just a breather for Germany and Russia to regain their strength, it was a period of social upheaval throughout Europe, Russia and Asia because of the massive reworking of the world power structure brought on by WWI. I'd say there were definitive reasons why the wars were separate. Or on the flip side, I could make arguments as to why WWI was nothing more than the continuation of the Franco-Prussian War, since the French made alliances with as many countries it could against Germany and long nursed its grudge against Germany for the loss of the Alsace-Loraine regions of Eastern France in that war.
One of the major reasons why historians sort of lump WWI and WWII together though is because there wasn't the usual separation of time between major wars, there was little time to reflect upon the causes and results of it. A lot of documentation that is later sorted through years after such an event were lost to the second war. Now you done it, you got me babbling about WWI, sorry.
But anyway, it matters not, WWI was fought by the Lost Generation, and WWII was fought by the Greatest Generation (whatever that means) back to back generations, and that was my initial point to Thom, war doesn't seem to skip generations because of how it affected the prior generation.
Yes, it is un-"North" American not to bring our jobs home! It has proved to be distructive to this country with the exception of the the "undying" citizen, corporations.
This sounds like a story that I need to learn much more about. The genocide of the Native Americans was initiatiated largely by the railroad tycoons of the day. The wanton slaughter of the people and their primary food source of the plains Indians, the bison, is as cruel as any genocide anywhere. Much of this formerly sustainable Native homeland, especially in the western prairies, is owned by billionaire Ted Turner. His barbwire fences keep his bison contained until their trip to his bison meat restaurants.
As a Christmas gift this year I recieved from my daughter the full series of dvd's 'Into The West". A TNT Dreamworks production by Steven Spielberg. This movie is one of the best that depicts the whites and native Americans from early 1800's up to the masacre at Wounded Knee.
More listening on the history of the subject:http://www.kfai.org/archive . Go to the First Person Radio program and hear author Heather Cox Richardson talk about the history of the eara. Her book, "WOUNDED KNEE, Party Politics and the Road To An American Massacer ". There is an excerpt to the book available on Google.
The history here is very interesting, in that President Harrison added six states to the Union in one week, thus adding 12 Senators and at east 6 Reps. The effect of this was to add at least 18 "electors" prior to the election of 1890, thus gaining reelection. Harrison lost the popular vote by 100,000 votes!
Note: The archive is available for two weeks only!
Peon? More like peed on. Trickle down is nothing more than trickled on! Just when is trickle down supposed to kick in anyhow? Anyone? Bueller?
Trickle down is yet another example of the many realy weird things Republicans believe even when huge facts are right there in front of their faces. Like polar ice caps melting is not enough to say "Gee, maybe there is something to this global warming after all." It's like an alternate universe where reason has not been discovered yet.
Um, Thom, Jimmy Carter wasn't President in 1976. Either you have the year wrong, or Gerald Ford is the one that let the Indians practice their tribal religions.
I know Dan Gainor's trying to dismiss that study by saying that it had only 92 subjects, but that's not a terribly small study. It's nice when you can have thousands of subjects, but that's somewhat rare. By contrast, the paper that led to the autism-vaccine scare had only 12 subjects (and they were cherry-picked, and the doctor was getting paid to find a particular result, etc.).
Most historians feel that WW2 was just an extension of WW1. WW1 was adjudicated harshly and was the direct cause of the conditions that allowed Germany to start up aggressions again. Think of it as a very long, drawn-out, phase-shift.
Hasn't conflict and war always been present in every generation? I mean if you start from the American Revolution, then you have the French Revolution, the Napoleonic Wars and the American war of 1812, the conquest of the the Spanish territories in Western America, the Crimean War, the American Civil War, Bismark of Germanies wars of German unification from Denmark, Austria and finally France, the Boer War, the Spanish American War, the Russian-Japanese War, the Turkish massacres of its minority citizens at the turn of the 19th century through to the 1920's (at least), WWI then WWII, Korea, Vietnam.... that's off the top of my head, and as far as I can tell, those are each major conflicts in every generation since the founding of America. War and confict just seems to accompany mankind like background noise, if you look hard enough (well not even all that hard), its always there.
Perhaps there is more of a generational tie to economic situations (booms and busts), but I don't know if I can be convinced that generations are more or less prone to War, it seems that all humankind is prone to War at any time.
Tom Toles drew an ecellent 'trikle-down' cartoon back in the 80's showng a toilet at the top a maze of pipes and a drop starting to emerge and a very happy Republican saying some thing like "See its working!" - couldn't find that one on the internet (too old) but here are some recent ones:
Jesus! Is no one listening to Thom's show this week? Only two entries in the daily live blog? Anyway, I just podcast the show (from 2 days ago) and I loved the rant on Teachers Unions at the end of the hour. My father lives in Montgomery County Maryland and he is always complaining that their County teachers make too much and the union is "Overreaching." He's a Liberal Democrat BTW. My point is that there seems to be this widely held belief that Teachers Have to Be Altruistic. Therefore they should do it for no more than lower middle class salaries? It’s as if they are overvalued or something?
Starting to feel like a Peon? I worked in the Animation Industry since I graduated high school. It was one of the first industries to be outsourced. When I was working for Hanna-Barbera in the early '80s Hanna was taking a tour group around, and as he neared our department he said "...and this is where the lettuce pickers work!" Incidentally, we were Union members! (IATSE). By around 1989 Disney Studios, where I was working then, gathered us together in the back lot to tell us we needn't contact them again. All future work was going overseas. I went back to school in that year, getting a degree from Cal State Northridge. I worked my way through school by operating a Catering company. When I graduated, the best job I could find was as Pantryperson in a restaurant, working for minimum wage under the table.
In 1996 I was lucky enough to get access to a computer Animation system, and taught myself. I mass mailed demo reels, and got a job at Sony Imageworks. I was made staff after 1 1/2 years, and terminated in a Black Fridaysix months later. My supervisor emphasized it had nothing to do with the quality of my work. They just weren't having a staff anymore. They were only going to hire on a project by project basis. It doesn't help to be making a thirty K wage if you get it one year, and then can't find work for two.
I've been seeing this coming for a long time, protesting it when I could, and never understood why no one else seemed to be paying any attention. Where do we go from here? Obama doesn't seem to be paying any attention either. And the resistance to the 911 responder's bill proves to me that we're not just moving to a Corporate Oligarchy, we're in it!
As a reminder, many Republicans and Democratic Congress members create environments for job growth to be overseas vs. here. Until we cap private insurance rates monthly, until we make health insurance comapnies non-profit and more highly regulated, until medical and dental school becomes more affordable and we don't graduate (like myself) with absurd debt, until we reduce obesity and smoking costs as well as defensive medicine costs, until we stop drilling and do more green energy production, this economy is gonna suck for Main Street and shine for Wall Street. Until we stop having no flexibility in pension plans for government workers including school employees, until we start RATIONALLY paying school administrator salaries instead of paying $109,000 in one instance in NY State (reasonable) vs. over $600,000 plus benefits for the Commack, NY administrator, we're in trouble. Thom called me a right-wing think tank person yesterday...got news for ya..I'm a Democratic US Senate candidate with stuff on my web site that absolutely is aggressively progressive.
let's see how long this makes this blog or if Thom or Louise nix it right away. If you actually get to read this, check out what I'm trying to do and ask Thom to change his policy and debate me on air without hanging up on me and saying, "Screw you Scott, screw you" like he did yesterday.
Indeed we need to start talking about defending all of those associated with producing the documents revealing our governments fraud, deception and illegal acts. What I would like you to mention on the air, however, the next time you refer to the problem of libertarians, is my new book described below. Why? To let people know that one way to challenge the insanity is to better understand it and another is to recognize the libertarian may be out to lunch, but he/she is not a bad person. In this book I invited the most famous libertarian scholar to write a book with me IF he was willing to argue "cooperatively." He did, the book is published, and we have become "disagreeing friends," though we found common ground to build on. This book is highly readable and I want you to be the first to talk about it:
Differing Worldviews in Higher Education:
Two Scholars Argue Cooperatively about Justice Education
By Four Arrows and Walter Block
A Dialogue for Our Divided World
Two noted professors on opposite sides of the cultural wars come together and engage in "cooperative argumentation." One, a "Jewish, atheist libertarian" and the other a "mixed blood American Indian" bring to the table two radically different worldviews to bear on the role of colleges and universities in studying social and ecological justice. The result is an entertaining and enlightening journey that reveals surprising connections and previously misunderstood rationales that may be at the root of a world too polarized to function sanely.
"How refreshing to read a debate between a libertarian and a progressive where the participants are not trying to one-up each other or score debating points but simply trying to present an intellectually rigorous case for their philosophy, respectfully debate their differences, learn from each other, and hopefully find common ground." -Dr. Ron Paul, (R) Congressman, 14th District, TX
Idle hands are the Devil's playground; idle minds are the Devil's playground. There's nothing to do here anymore but win the lottery or figure out some way to gain celebrity. Though on Craigslist, women may now sell their eggs starting at $8,000. There are also many openings for young girls willing to work as naked housekeepers or half-nude personal assistants.
We used to have diverse working communities, the highest-quality manufactured products, the safest-produced food, the best quality of life in the world, the highest morals, or so they said.
That's why we had to be tricked out of our greatness, so it is no longer ours, but gone over to the Old World Oppressor from which emigrating freedom seekers sought to escape originally. Wake, oh wake- we're headed for Hell in a Jardines Fleming Walker handbag before long.
@rladlof, I can agree in part about WWII being an extension of WWI, in a lot of ways Germany was provoked into it by the terms imposed upon it by the Allies. Some of the harshest of terms being championed by the French, who had the loudest voice at the table since it was their land that was most renowned for the war. I would say there is even an argument that if America had stayed out of the war, that the end of that war would have eventually ended in a draw, perhaps a year or two later than it did. But WWII didn't just involve the Europeans, there were major Asian countries at War, even prior to Germany invading Poland. Russia was hostile to its neighbors prior to Germany invading it, Finland and Poland can attest to that. Italy under Mussolini was acting aggressively too, though ineptly in Africa. The Spanish Civil War was a fascist war (a war Germany happily tested it weapons in) vs a Republic government.
All in all, yes you could make an argument that the two wars were really one, but I look at WWI as a War that dissolved the last vestiges of Royal Families powers in Europe. WWII was the War that decided what would replace those power vacuums. I don't think that could have happened without the end of WWI and then the building of the new experimental governments that took place after it. Basically I would say the near 20 year period between the wars was more than just a breather for Germany and Russia to regain their strength, it was a period of social upheaval throughout Europe, Russia and Asia because of the massive reworking of the world power structure brought on by WWI. I'd say there were definitive reasons why the wars were separate. Or on the flip side, I could make arguments as to why WWI was nothing more than the continuation of the Franco-Prussian War, since the French made alliances with as many countries it could against Germany and long nursed its grudge against Germany for the loss of the Alsace-Loraine regions of Eastern France in that war.
One of the major reasons why historians sort of lump WWI and WWII together though is because there wasn't the usual separation of time between major wars, there was little time to reflect upon the causes and results of it. A lot of documentation that is later sorted through years after such an event were lost to the second war. Now you done it, you got me babbling about WWI, sorry.
But anyway, it matters not, WWI was fought by the Lost Generation, and WWII was fought by the Greatest Generation (whatever that means) back to back generations, and that was my initial point to Thom, war doesn't seem to skip generations because of how it affected the prior generation.
N
Clearing a Path: Theorizing the Past in Native American Studies [Paperback]
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Yes, it is un-"North" American not to bring our jobs home! It has proved to be distructive to this country with the exception of the the "undying" citizen, corporations.
This sounds like a story that I need to learn much more about. The genocide of the Native Americans was initiatiated largely by the railroad tycoons of the day. The wanton slaughter of the people and their primary food source of the plains Indians, the bison, is as cruel as any genocide anywhere. Much of this formerly sustainable Native homeland, especially in the western prairies, is owned by billionaire Ted Turner. His barbwire fences keep his bison contained until their trip to his bison meat restaurants.
As a Christmas gift this year I recieved from my daughter the full series of dvd's 'Into The West". A TNT Dreamworks production by Steven Spielberg. This movie is one of the best that depicts the whites and native Americans from early 1800's up to the masacre at Wounded Knee.
More listening on the history of the subject: http://www.kfai.org/archive . Go to the First Person Radio program and hear author Heather Cox Richardson talk about the history of the eara. Her book, "WOUNDED KNEE, Party Politics and the Road To An American Massacer ". There is an excerpt to the book available on Google.
The history here is very interesting, in that President Harrison added six states to the Union in one week, thus adding 12 Senators and at east 6 Reps. The effect of this was to add at least 18 "electors" prior to the election of 1890, thus gaining reelection. Harrison lost the popular vote by 100,000 votes!
Note: The archive is available for two weeks only!
Peon? More like peed on. Trickle down is nothing more than trickled on! Just when is trickle down supposed to kick in anyhow? Anyone? Bueller?
Trickle down is yet another example of the many realy weird things Republicans believe even when huge facts are right there in front of their faces. Like polar ice caps melting is not enough to say "Gee, maybe there is something to this global warming after all." It's like an alternate universe where reason has not been discovered yet.
Um, Thom, Jimmy Carter wasn't President in 1976. Either you have the year wrong, or Gerald Ford is the one that let the Indians practice their tribal religions.
Dr. Susan Blocks feels that way based upon her observations of the bonobos.
I know Dan Gainor's trying to dismiss that study by saying that it had only 92 subjects, but that's not a terribly small study. It's nice when you can have thousands of subjects, but that's somewhat rare. By contrast, the paper that led to the autism-vaccine scare had only 12 subjects (and they were cherry-picked, and the doctor was getting paid to find a particular result, etc.).
Lizard Brains versus the ability to think:
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/brain-thickness-determines-pol...
MAXROT,
Most historians feel that WW2 was just an extension of WW1. WW1 was adjudicated harshly and was the direct cause of the conditions that allowed Germany to start up aggressions again. Think of it as a very long, drawn-out, phase-shift.
In reference to the caller about Chimps and Bonobos, the lesson is, make love not war?
N
Hasn't conflict and war always been present in every generation? I mean if you start from the American Revolution, then you have the French Revolution, the Napoleonic Wars and the American war of 1812, the conquest of the the Spanish territories in Western America, the Crimean War, the American Civil War, Bismark of Germanies wars of German unification from Denmark, Austria and finally France, the Boer War, the Spanish American War, the Russian-Japanese War, the Turkish massacres of its minority citizens at the turn of the 19th century through to the 1920's (at least), WWI then WWII, Korea, Vietnam.... that's off the top of my head, and as far as I can tell, those are each major conflicts in every generation since the founding of America. War and confict just seems to accompany mankind like background noise, if you look hard enough (well not even all that hard), its always there.
Perhaps there is more of a generational tie to economic situations (booms and busts), but I don't know if I can be convinced that generations are more or less prone to War, it seems that all humankind is prone to War at any time.
N
So how does this 4 generation issue line up with WWI and WWII, it seems like there wasn't 80 years between the two to me.
N
Recessivists hope for what the sane and sober progressives would consider a Dickensian nightmare . . .
Party on!
Monogamy correlates with alcohol consumption. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2010/12/28/are-booze-drenched-societies-more-likely-to-be-monogamous/#more-15264
Tom Toles drew an ecellent 'trikle-down' cartoon back in the 80's showng a toilet at the top a maze of pipes and a drop starting to emerge and a very happy Republican saying some thing like "See its working!" - couldn't find that one on the internet (too old) but here are some recent ones:
The Two Teared Economy (The handkerchief is a nice touch ...)
and it's cold, wet and running down our neck. Yes, we are getting it now.
Jesus! Is no one listening to Thom's show this week? Only two entries in the daily live blog?
Anyway, I just podcast the show (from 2 days ago) and I loved the rant on Teachers Unions at the end of the hour. My father lives in Montgomery County Maryland and he is always complaining that their County teachers make too much and the union is "Overreaching." He's a Liberal Democrat BTW. My point is that there seems to be this widely held belief that Teachers Have to Be Altruistic. Therefore they should do it for no more than lower middle class salaries? It’s as if they are overvalued or something?
Starting to feel like a Peon? I worked in the Animation Industry since I graduated high school. It was one of the first industries to be outsourced. When I was working for Hanna-Barbera in the early '80s Hanna was taking a tour group around, and as he neared our department he said "...and this is where the lettuce pickers work!" Incidentally, we were Union members! (IATSE). By around 1989 Disney Studios, where I was working then, gathered us together in the back lot to tell us we needn't contact them again. All future work was going overseas. I went back to school in that year, getting a degree from Cal State Northridge. I worked my way through school by operating a Catering company. When I graduated, the best job I could find was as Pantryperson in a restaurant, working for minimum wage under the table.
In 1996 I was lucky enough to get access to a computer Animation system, and taught myself. I mass mailed demo reels, and got a job at Sony Imageworks. I was made staff after 1 1/2 years, and terminated in a Black Fridaysix months later. My supervisor emphasized it had nothing to do with the quality of my work. They just weren't having a staff anymore. They were only going to hire on a project by project basis. It doesn't help to be making a thirty K wage if you get it one year, and then can't find work for two.
I've been seeing this coming for a long time, protesting it when I could, and never understood why no one else seemed to be paying any attention. Where do we go from here? Obama doesn't seem to be paying any attention either. And the resistance to the 911 responder's bill proves to me that we're not just moving to a Corporate Oligarchy, we're in it!
Starting to feel like a peon? No. Pigeon.
Do you have a reference to the Economic Policy Institute report on jobs created here and overseas. I looked but could not find it.
Thanks.
As a reminder, many Republicans and Democratic Congress members create environments for job growth to be overseas vs. here. Until we cap private insurance rates monthly, until we make health insurance comapnies non-profit and more highly regulated, until medical and dental school becomes more affordable and we don't graduate (like myself) with absurd debt, until we reduce obesity and smoking costs as well as defensive medicine costs, until we stop drilling and do more green energy production, this economy is gonna suck for Main Street and shine for Wall Street. Until we stop having no flexibility in pension plans for government workers including school employees, until we start RATIONALLY paying school administrator salaries instead of paying $109,000 in one instance in NY State (reasonable) vs. over $600,000 plus benefits for the Commack, NY administrator, we're in trouble. Thom called me a right-wing think tank person yesterday...got news for ya..I'm a Democratic US Senate candidate with stuff on my web site that absolutely is aggressively progressive.
let's see how long this makes this blog or if Thom or Louise nix it right away. If you actually get to read this, check out what I'm trying to do and ask Thom to change his policy and debate me on air without hanging up on me and saying, "Screw you Scott, screw you" like he did yesterday.
Scott Noren DDS
Ithaca, NY www.norenforsenate.com
Tom,
Indeed we need to start talking about defending all of those associated with producing the documents revealing our governments fraud, deception and illegal acts. What I would like you to mention on the air, however, the next time you refer to the problem of libertarians, is my new book described below. Why? To let people know that one way to challenge the insanity is to better understand it and another is to recognize the libertarian may be out to lunch, but he/she is not a bad person. In this book I invited the most famous libertarian scholar to write a book with me IF he was willing to argue "cooperatively." He did, the book is published, and we have become "disagreeing friends," though we found common ground to build on. This book is highly readable and I want you to be the first to talk about it:
Differing Worldviews in Higher Education:
Two Scholars Argue Cooperatively about Justice Education
By Four Arrows and Walter Block
A Dialogue for Our Divided World
Two noted professors on opposite sides of the cultural wars come together and engage in "cooperative argumentation." One, a "Jewish, atheist libertarian" and the other a "mixed blood American Indian" bring to the table two radically different worldviews to bear on the role of colleges and universities in studying social and ecological justice. The result is an entertaining and enlightening journey that reveals surprising connections and previously misunderstood rationales that may be at the root of a world too polarized to function sanely.
"How refreshing to read a debate between a libertarian and a progressive where the participants are not trying to one-up each other or score debating points but simply trying to present an intellectually rigorous case for their philosophy, respectfully debate their differences, learn from each other, and hopefully find common ground." -Dr. Ron Paul, (R) Congressman, 14th District, TX
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