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And on the President's birth place and religion...
Ok, if you don't accept that he was born in the US, at this point you should seek therapy.
If you think he is a Muslim, you're ignorant, but that's cool, lots of people are ignorant about a myriad of issues that really, in the big picture, just don't matter.
If he was a Muslim, and if you have a problem with the potential that a Muslim could be president (or a Hindu, Buddist, or an agnostic for that matter) you're a bigot.
Why be afraid of what you are? Take ownership of your bigotry and be honest with yourself. Self-critical analysis is at least a starting point to intellectual enlightenment.
If you pay too much attention to the corporate media (whichever "way" you swing), you might think that if, as regular Americans, we disagree on anything it means we should hate each other. As foolish as that is, it is similarly foolish to believe that political dialogue is some how more inflamatory today than at other times in history.
Consider this, from French Enlightenment thinker (or philosophe) Denis Diderot who said, "Men will not be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest."
Ouch...
Obama could produce an original birth certificate from Hawaii and the Reich wing still would claim it were a forgery.
Re: The Enlightenment vs The Dark Ages
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=35011834183&ref=ts
A fresh voice of reason in an unreasonable political landscape.
Encouraging Words...Canadian imams condemn radical Islam http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j8FUc2kW5Eaz_z3-FAhHgPaSrnYA
The dangers of Fundamentalism
...The great Sufi scholar Sayyed Hosein Nassr recently estimated that a minority of Muslims are active supporters of Jihad against the West. His estimate was a tenth of all Muslims. Gee, by my reckoning, that still makes one hundred million Muslims who detest our permissive way of life, our lack of an orthodoxy, our equal esteem for women along with men. As one radio pundit put it right after 9/11, they hate the fact that American women wear bikinis and speak their minds.
- Zarathustra Speaks
http://www.robertmprice.mindvendor.com/zblog/2010/08/zombie-apocalypse/
Thank you for the apology, I forgive you...
Wait, does that make me a Christian?
I have been able to link Kristof's article, "Is this America." Apparently you will have a problem linking the article from my comment. I apologize.
Great point Max...one of my favorite bumber stickers of all time:
"If going to Church on Sunday makes you a Christian, does going to the garage make you a car?"
And, on the Enlightenment vs the Dark Ages...well, it seems that those Enlightenment thinkers were too interested in individual liberty, free thinking, and rational humanism (the idea that if we share our collective knowledge, progress is inevidable) for the contemporary American political landscape.
Yes, it is.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/12/opinion/12kristof.html?_r=4&ref=opinion
Zombie Apocalypse
Is Islam a, or the, “religion of peace”?
http://www.robertmprice.mindvendor.com/zblog/2010/08/zombie-apocalypse/
All in all, a pretty good article.
Hey Jeanie, who exactly would Jesus consider a non-believer? Someone who doesn't go to church, or someone who doesn't practice what Jesus preached?
I'm kinda' betting that if Jesus did come back and slaughter non-believers, his first stops would be churches on Sunday ;-)
Perhaps also the house of the author of the "Left Behind" series after that.
N
Another loss!
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Nine-Years-After-9-11-Has-by-Mary-Shaw-100912-439.html
It seems to me that we need to return to the principles of the Enlightenment, least we return the Dark Ages.
Command Post
Gerald’s comments are coming to you from his hideaway bunker deep inside enemy territory.
Here is his mission statement from the words of St. Ambrose.
I SHALL PASS THIS WAY BUT ONCE. ANY GOOD THAT I CAN DO LET ME DO IT NOW BECAUSE I SHALL NOT PASS THIS WAY AGAIN.
No need to read sub-par literature on this one..."it's written in the Bible".
It seems to me that Fundamentalism is a human condition, and that one uses their religion to reinforce their world view.
I didn't read the "Left Behind" series, but I read that one of the last books was about Jesus coming back and slaughtering all non-believers. Kind of bloody. It is a very popular book series for Christians.
By the by...this reading of Revelations happens to be more mainstream than many will admit. Just think about the implications of this belief in the end times:
Today, many American Christians support Isreal (as I said above), but of course this only goes so far as to when Jesus shows up and all the non-Christians are "left behind"...in this scenerio, Jewish Israelies (whom American Christians "support") are pretty much screwed, and all the pladitudinal support offered by contemporary Christians goes out the window.
In da details.
Why don't the democrats point out the details of the good thangs that been doin' for us.
Such as, credit card statements now have an easy to see note as to how long and how much will be paid if you pay only minimum payment.
I have a new insurance policy period at work, and there is now 100% coverage for preventative doctor visits and tests. The is a tangible result from the somewhat health care reform.
Don't need no earth shaking changes for this dude. These simple ones that I can see and experience is what I be lookn' for.
Re: Pagan
Paganism (from Latin paganus, meaning "country dweller", "rustic"[1]) is a blanket term, typically used to refer to polytheistic religious traditions, although from a Christian perspective, the term can encompass all non–Abrahamic religions.[2][3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paganism
Your guest asked about where in the New Testament there was a reference to killing non-believers...
Revelations calls for the death (or damning to perdition) or conversion of all non-Christians prior to the second coming of Jesus. Kind of a "death to the infidels" clarion call if you ask thoughtful people. Keep in mind this is not a "story" to most Christians, it is an eventuality. Additionally, many American Christians predicate their "support" for Israel upon this theological "eventuality"...i.e. inflaming the conflict between Jews and Muslims today will create the necessary conditions for the final battle and the subsequent return of Jesus...tomorrow?
Hmm...
Dude, you don't need blacks to increase KKK membership. If you're not a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP), you're worthy of being persecuted by the KKK. I'm not sure when and why the KKK went from hating blacks almost solely to just about everyone, but my guess it was a way to drive up membership back in the day.
Anyway, good on the skater. Being a skateboarder is pretty much synonymous with being young, so symbolically this action represents a new ideology saying "We don't wish to tolerate, intolerance quietly anymore".
What a beautiful image... the photo accompanying this quote above, captures it well.
N
Gene--you're exactly right.
Do 50% of Repubs REALLY think Obama is a Muslim? Or do they just say that to be part of the pack, since they have a pack mentality and think if they question their conservative leaders & preachers that they'll somehow be blasphemous and kicked out of the group? Many Repubs call themselves pro-life, but they'll have an abortion or get one for a friend/family member in a second if they need one. They go along with the party line because they're too afraid to think for themselves, because if they think for themselves and use logic, they might realize that their party lies, cheats and steals and hates this country and them. And then they might have to realize that Democrats (real ones) are right. They're like abused spouses who are afraid to challenge their abuser and instead tell themselves their abuser really does love them and justifies what happens to them.
Or they're just really dumb.